Monday Morning Fly By: Ken Hitchcock Still Scares Me From St. Louis
by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 6:00 AM EST
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Jon Kalinski returned to the lineup and scored the game winner Friday: [PosStar] [Phantoms Forum]
- Wayne Simmonds stepped up for the Flyers again: [Flyers Goal Scored By...]
- Scoring chances from the Columbus game: [The Cannon]
- Allentown is being sued over their use of eminent domain for the new arena: [Morning Call]
- Jakub Kovar stopped 16 of 19 shots before being pulled after 25 minus in a 5-2 loss Friday: [euroflyers]
- He followed it up by stopping 32 of 34 in a 3-2 shootout win Sunday: [euroflyers]
- Niko Hovinen stopped 17 of 20 shots in a 3-2 OT loss Friday: [euroflyers]
- Another great rundown of the Flyers prospect depth: [Hockey's Future]
- Catching up with Joe Watson: [CSNPhilly]
- An interview with Flyers assistant coach Joe Mullen: [The Hockey News]
- A fantastically thorough look at where the Blue Jackets go from here: [The Cannon]
- But scratch off any scenario involving Ken Hitchcock, as he is the new coach of the Blues: [Puck Daddy]
- Mike Blunden stepped off the bench and laid a hit on an unsuspecting Brandon Dubinsky. A clean hit that is also dirty: [Puck Daddy]
- Drew Doughty wears a visor. Drew Doughty would almost certainly have a serious eye injury if he didn't: [Puck Daddy]
- Taking a road trip to see hockey in two countries, four states, and three leagues in 9 days: [Backhand Shelf]
- Claiming that sports journalism is being killed by the need to be first with inside information rather than the best storyteller: [The Globe and Mail]
- Looking at the fall and rise of James Neal and what his shooting percentage told us: [Backhand Shelf]
- A brief history of player/coach feuds in the NHL: [Down Goes Brown]
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Nice to see the Flyers now have a little depth in the organization, but hoping that they don’t revert back to old ways and trade picks and/or prospects for veteran players. Hopefully, if Schenn develops and the blueline becomes dependable, the team can just be patient with its prospects and picks.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
On offense at least, this is a very young team, with a number of high profile young talent.
Defense needs work.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Good win this week Don, despite being inactive for half of it,thereby letting me sneak a tie in here and there
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 7, 2011 9:07 AM EST reply actions
Yeah I haven’t really paid much attention to my team this past week until today. It’s pretty much a once a week or less activity right now.
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and here I am maintaining it every day
nuts
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 7, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Did I (High Flyers) win last week?
Can’t get to yahoo fantasy sites but I can get to cbssportsline. Go figure.
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You went 6-5-1 last week.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Ahead 6 pts of Kreider
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 7, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
This week, DG and I face each other. My dozen waiver moves have paid off for me nicely so far.
Bob.
by The Dark on Nov 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Flyers scoring at a 4.00 goals per game pace. That is pretty god damn ridiculous after 14 games.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
They had a terrible CBJ team, an atrocious performance against Winnipeg largely to thank for that.
We’re allowing 3.05 goals a game, which is terrible.
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Don’t forget Ottawa.
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Don’t forget Lanci is in fact Paul Holgrem.
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by DLJr on Nov 7, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We’re allowing 3.05 goals a game, which is terrible.
True
But you can’t disregard this as they played bad teams.
Caps 2nd highest scoring team have also played Ottawa, Islanders, Florida, and Tampa.
Toronto the 3rd highest scoring team has played CBJ, OTT x2, the Jets, and COL.
I forgot though you can’t say anything positive about the team around here without getting shit all over. My bad. I feel we as a collective were worried about this team scoring goals and in fact goal scoring has been a strength.
And they are doing a lot of scoring at ES with 40 ES goals scored this season. Also tops in the NHL. That is 7 more that Washington and 6 more than TOR.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
I forgot though you can’t say anything positive about the team around here without getting shit all over. My bad.
Just so others don’t feel the same way, this is patently false. In case you forgot, Eric and I were consistently defending against claims that we were homers for the entire second half of last year. I personally have said many, many positive things regarding Matt Carle, Braydon Coburn, Jeff Carter, Mike Richards, Andreas Nodl, Sergei Bobrovsky, and of course, Brian Boucher. This is on top of many positive accolades given to Claude Giroux, Nik Zherdev, and others.
Where you seem to be frustrated is where we, as a collective, do not like statements – positive or negative – that don’t explain the underlying facts that make the statement either misleading, false, or useless going forward.
Further, if you go back to what Eric said immediately after the trades – and before Jagr was signed – he said:
In total then, the Flyers have lost about 45 points from their skaters — perhaps 20-25 goals.
I don’t see that as saying “the Flyers will struggle to score”. But, that whole “NOBODY THOUGHT THE FLYERS WOULD SCORE! BOY WERE THEY WRONG!” is rather prominent now, so I’m not surprised you are repeating it here.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 8, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed completely. Some points to add on:
1) You mentioned that my projections came before Jagr was signed. I explicitly based them on signing a 30-point defense-first 3C; when they signed Jagr — whom we estimated would have 60+ points — that closes the deficit to some 15 points or so, maybe 7 goals.
2) My Maple Street Press article said a lot of people are focusing on the goal scoring, but that I was more concerned about the lost defense. I’m not sure who the “we as a collective” is in “I feel we as a collective were worried about this team scoring goals”, but that was never my biggest concern.
3) Everyone needs to pay more attention to what the post-regression world will look like. The Flyers skaters are shooting way above their talent, but their goalie is letting in shots way above his talent. So far the offense has scored and the defense has given up goals, but that doesn’t mean that the offense is great or that the defense is terrible.
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I forgot though you can’t say anything positive about the team around here without getting shit all over. My bad. I feel we as a collective were worried about this team scoring goals and in fact goal scoring has been a strength.
First of all, your post gave no context to the numbers you were providing. And given that you usually support just about anything that the Flyers do without even the slightest hint of skepticism I think it is pretty obvious you didn’t want to admit any of that.
We have been relying on one line against some really crappy teams. Has the ride been interesting so far? Yup. Has the scoring been better than expected so far? Sure.
But there is really nothing amazing about having a hot streak for 14 games. Especially early when offense usually tends to be a bit more prevalent.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
You know, I thought so too. In fact, my first reaction was “wow, sounds like the 1980s!”
So, on a whim, I look up “1984-85 Edmonton Oilers”
80 games. 401 goals. Yes, that’s a 5.0 average, not 4.0. Over 80 games.
/stupid Devils trap.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Random factoid: I was at my 6-year old son’s hockey practice yesterday (wearing my Flyers cap), and the guy that run’s the hockey program at the rink comes over and points to my cap and informs me that his son is Garrett Roe, who plays LW for the Adirondack Phantoms. We ended up chatting about the Phantoms/Flyers, the upcoming Winter Classic, the number of Phantoms currently up with the big club, etc. Pretty cool random meeting.
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That’s awesome. Btw, when are you meeting Oskars? I still need to send you that 8×10 if you want it.
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 7, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Fascinating. I really need to learn about Garrett Roe. Have heard his name often.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
He was pretty darn good there as well, played on a PP unit with Nodl.
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Pretty big size difference though
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- Not sure what to make of that Blunden hit. It sure looks like he was off the bench early and was aiming for that hit. Is interference + too may men the right call? I might have to dig through the rulebook a little bit and think about this one.
- It’ll be interesting to see if Hitch can turn things around quickly in St. Louis or if it takes a while. Their roster is decent, so I guess it’s a question of how they respond to him.
- That Doughty video is pretty scary. Especially watching the two screws fly off. Damn good thing he was wearing a visor.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Well that didn't last long
The Flyers have loaned forward Eric Wellwood to the Phantoms, according to GM Paul Holmgren.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Uh oh, snark fans:
Sean Couturier: …his penalty-killing work and team-leading plus-9 mean he has the fifth-best defensive GVT in the league.
Number 10 in overall GVT. Giroux is 2.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Imagine how awesome it will be to have that and his increased offensive production for peanuts on his ELC in a few yea….. HOMGRENNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 7, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Do you believe in blocking shots?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 7, 2011 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is there NO WAY we can put a positive spin on this?
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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For a second there, I read that as Coulture.
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IT'S TEBOW TIME!
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By the way, link:
http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1162
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
On the giroux blurb, I’d hardly say our problem has been goaltending. Its not like Bryz and Bob are letting in soft goals left and right, most of them were a result of defensive turnovers and lackadaisacal team play.
The Flyers team SV% is .888. Goaltending is certainly one of their problems.
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by Snevik on Nov 7, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
defensive turnovers and lackadaisacal team play
I don’t get to see many of the games, but from what I have seen, I agree with Don. The defense is pretty horrendous. Look at the last two goals in the Devils game last week. I know those are only 2 out of the 44 goals we’ve allowed so far, but to me this seems to be the way things are going, and to me that indicates a bigger problem with defense, far beyond blaming the goalies.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I’d hardly say our problem has been goaltending. Its not like Bryz and Bob are letting in soft goals left and right, most of them were a result of defensive turnovers and lackadaisacal team play.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Since I’m now in this conversation, I want to use my eyes for a change. One reason the D has been bad with turnovers, especially breaking out of the zone has a big deal to do with the wingers, whether it has been turning away from the play/puck or taking themselves out of a lane by getting behind an opposing team’s player, or just a problem with the scheme Lavy runs, it has driven me nuts in general, and it’s not something that I’ve seen mentioned yet.
And that’s my rant for the day.
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Interesting point. Again looking at the two turnovers in the Devils game, I noted the turnovers by Mesz and Carle that turned into goals, but I hadn’t noted who they were trying to get the puck to and what they were doing.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Those were horrendous turnovers, don’t thinkt hey had much to do with the forwards, or at least not from what I remember. One of Coburn’s turnovers in that game came from him being pressured, and Talbot circling in to the zone, Coburn then playing the puck up the boards to wards where Talbot was initially heading, Talbot turning away in to the neutral zone leaving the Devil there for an easy pick off and scoring chance. Stuff like that drives me nuts. That’s just one example, but it was the last home game I was at, and that’s when I tend to notice it, because I can look up ice.
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I also could be just seeing what i want to see because I believe the D should be better than they’ve been.
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This is something I’d like to be able to check out at live games (it’s hard to verify on TV). I suspect that in general the defense is getting less conscientious play from the forwards than last year.
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 7, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Goaltending is certainly one of their problems.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
One of the problems, sure. But last year you could say the goaltenders were letting in goals they shouldn’t have and it was changing the complexion of games. Most of the goals that have gone in this year have been turnovers that’ve pinned us in our zone too long, or led to odd man breaks, or deflections off our own players. Maybe the goalies could’ve saved a few more of those, but I think the sv% is misleading. At least to the general populace who haven’t watched all our games – it might look like our goalies are playing like crap but they aren’t.
Team SV% last year was .915. It’s not a goaltender’s job to decide whether certain shots have more merit. While shot distance/defensive system could account for some difference, it would not be this large. Our goaltenders last year played unquestionably better than our goaltenders so far this year.
Look, this is definitely a question of small sample size, but our goaltenders have played poorly so far, on the whole.
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I would argue that the team defense is the main reason that accounts for the difference in the save percentage. From the eye test I don’t think it’s fair to say that our goaltenders have played poorly so far, or that they are worse than last year. Small sample size yes, and it may be my opinion, but that’s what it is.
Team defense can’t possibly account for that big a difference: that’s my entire point. I’m not saying that our defense is playing well or that they aren’t the biggest problem at the moment, but you can’t completely excuse the goaltenders from stopping shots simply because they play behind crappy defensemen.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
It can’t in the long run.
It definitely can in the short run — any given shot could be unsaveable.
The question is how many shots it takes for it to be unlikely that a difference that large could be the fault of the skaters. Maybe it’s three games, maybe it’s 30, I dunno.
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I don’t think there’s such a thing as an unstoppable shot. At best, it’s a matter of degree of difficulty.
The argument is that our goaltenders are playing just fine. Is this really a difficult argument? If the best/worst defensive systems in the league are bumping SV% +/- .004 (obviously, a much larger sample size), it seems like that can account for some of the difference, but .027 over 14 games on shot distance alone? That seems like more like a natural fluctuation, intuitively.
Maybe I’m just using the numbers to support my eyes here. The goaltending hasn’t been good to me, regardless of the context of the shots.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
The argument is that our goaltenders are playing just fine.
That’s not what I’m arguing. The more I re-read this thread, I think we might all secretly agree that goaltending and team defense both need improvement. The difference is just how much weighting each of us is applying to those two problems.
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Yeah, I’m arguing the general, not the specific. It’s possible for the defense to cause a spread of 0.027 over some period of time.
I’m with you that that’s probably a larger run than you should expect over this many games, but I don’t know for sure. That’s all I was getting at.
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Yet another WC jersey concept
From Puck Daddy
I dig the keystone patch under the ‘A’. And I’m pretty excited at the thought of a Flyers jersey with laces. Personally, I like this the best so far of the concepts I’ve seen. I’d be very strongly tempted to buy this one.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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just give me a liberty bell patch with A or C sewn onto that
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 7, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
This is up there with the Quakers one for me. Quakers would be my favorite if they added a vintage white outline to the script and numbers.
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Perhaps it was just the workmanship of being a counterfeit, but to me the Quakers ones looked incredibly cheap. And I couldn’t get past that to appreciate the design itself. The jerseys just looked like absolute shit.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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All the jerseys have. I saw the 2nd fake one at the Flyers Devil’s game, it looks even shittier than the Quakers (though maybe because it was about 3 sizes too small on a very heavy set guy).
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Ah, I haven’t seen anything of the 2nd fake one other than the concept sketch.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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I try to ignore those situations
better to be comfortable than wearing something that is not, but something you truly wanted
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 7, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Just because it is hilarious...
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by Chemistry66 on Nov 7, 2011 11:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I missed this…what is it?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Nov 7, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
After JVR scored, G was dooping on the bench and the cameras caught it.
"It seems weird but I drink. I drink when I work out. I literally hate working out. My friends ask me if I want to go hiking up Runyon Canyon in Los Angeles and I’m like, ‘Why? I have the new Kinect. Why would you want to go outside? Why would you like to climb up a mountain?’ I really do drink when I work out. I have to trick myself into thinking I’m doing something fun. I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Haha cool. Thanks.
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 7, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Here be the video. It be HIGHLARIOUS.
"Simba needs to sharpen his claws" - Ilya Bryzgalov, on Scott Hartnell
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The Allentown suit
Hey with Geoff and other lawyers on this site, I’m surprised that there isn’t more commentary on the Allentown situation. The guy suing isn’t just some gadfly, sounds to me like he has standing, knowledge of the eminent domain law, and an axe to grind. At minimum he could slow the process, which is not something I think the Phantoms need.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Yeah, I really should write about it. Maybe I will after going to Glens Falls and talking to people?
It’s just that eminent domain law is a cluster eff and I only am vaguely familiar with federal law in the area.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Recall the major Supreme Court decision that re-enforced the ability of eminent domain, that Judge Souter felt real awkward about. Thus, I believe state law has pre-eminence here (multiple states have constitutional initiatives to disallow commercial use of eminent domain, but based on the SC decision, it’s legal from a federal perspective AFAIK).
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Yeah, the Federal/state aspect is one I don’t recall, which is why I’m not all that familiar. I remember it was highly controversial though, since the state was taking land and giving it to private developers for the purpose of the developers making a profit.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Any bad news for Allentown is good news for us
by ryan1 on Nov 7, 2011 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The guy bringing the suit against Allentown is a land developer in the Lehigh Valley. If you notice at the end of the article his mentioning of bringing minor league hockey to the Lehigh Valley he had two other areas of thought…that’s because he owns the land there. The deal for his land fell through and he can’t sell the land in today’s economy. This is his way of trying to squeeze an extra buck out of the hockey deal.
I’m not saying his case based on eminent domain will be thrown out or heard in court, but this is really the underlying purpose for his suit.
see in my comment:
and an axe to grind.. This is an independent variable of his knowledge/position relative to the law.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
my point was only being that he will eventually settle out of court on this whole thing and it will be a minor bump in the road and not really slow anything down.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. If the Court says the city can’t do it, why would he settle? The city can’t build where they want to build, they still want to build, boom, they buy his land and give him even more money.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
This is a serious question for you. If he leases an office or floor in the building that was owned by someone else, isn’t it an issue he needs to take up with the owner of the building. My understanding from reading the article is that he doesn’t own the building that is in questions, he leases an office(s) or floor in the building. If the owner settled with the city and he lost his office, doesn’t he have to take that up with his lease holder? Maybe my reading comprehension needs work, but that’s what I took out of the article.
With all disclaimers applicable – I don’t know any of this as fact, just my understanding which could easily be wrong, etc. – if he leases a building, he can sue the owner for breach of contract. But depending on how the eminent domain suit comes in, he would have standing – he suffered a tangible harm as a result of the action in question – to sue the state as just a lease holder.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
he would have standing – he suffered a tangible harm as a result of the action in question – to sue the state as just a lease holder.
This (I believe).
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
I would ask TGP’s David S. Cohen if it wasn’t admitting to my Con Law Professor I didn’t actually learn what he taught me.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 8, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Sports writers whining about breaking news seems an awful lot like teachers whining about being held accountable for student’s learning progress.
It’s part of your job. The fact that writers have gotten away with it in days before the internet doesn’t mean they can get away with it any longer.
by BannedStreetBully on Nov 7, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions
It is part of the job, but that doesn’t get rid of the question of how to best serve readers when the available time and energy are finite. I don’t believe the best journalism comes from being first with each piece of “news.” When your are focusing your energy more on the “what” of things it’s less time you’re spending on “how” and “why,” which I think is a more valuable service. Reducing the job to chasing after the latest factoid can also be shitty for morale and one’s sense of purpose, at least for journalists with curious brains.
I think the real threat to journalists is sites like this, run by enthusiasts who are either amateurs or low-paid and not supported by large institutions. There is a lot of knowledge in the crowd (both the mob and the elites) and collecting that in places like public blogs provides a viable alternative to the traditional outlets.
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 7, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
board up the house and hide yo wimmen
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In the last photo
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by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 7, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
OFF TOPIC WARNING
Please everyone (especially in Philly) tomorrow is election day – come out and vote at least once for your favorite candidates! And if you don’t know who to vote for, please ask – I’ll be happy to tell you! (Rule #1, vote out any incumbent not named ‘Michael Nutter’.)
VOTE ’EM OUT!!!
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politics are lame, this is about flyers hockey.
"Its the letter D"
by Rory B. Bellows on Nov 7, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never voted and probably never will until Stephen Colbert and Lewis Black are among my options. I’ve never seen anyone I would want in any office that was running, so I see no reason to take time out of my day to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Passive resistance only works if someone knows you’re doing it – and the shitty voter turnouts are perennially ignored by politicians hwo still take the minority as mandate. You don’t want to vote, move to Canada.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Nov 8, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever dude, voting is bleh.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 8, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Not to sound like FR, but if you don’t vote you’re disrespecting the people who have given their lives for that right over the last 300 years. Sure – it’s your choice. But not making your voice heard then means you have no standing to complain about it, and the next Millenial I meet who doesn’t complain about government will be the first yet few of them vote.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Nov 9, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
But not making your voice heard then means you have no standing to complain about it, and the next Millenial I meet who doesn’t complain about government will be the first yet few of them vote.
Agreed. I’m such an old fogey!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
That makes two of us. :(
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Nov 9, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
, but if you don’t vote you’re disrespecting the people who have given their lives for that right over the last 300 years.
No. I’m not.
But not making your voice heard then means you have no standing to complain about it, and the next Millenial I meet who doesn’t complain about government will be the first yet few of them vote.
So if my two choices are between a guy who isn’t going to fix anything and a guy who…. also isn’t going to fix anything. When do I get to bitch?
Voting is an outdated, ineffective way to select members of government. Average Americans are too stupid to be entrusted with electing the people responsible for running this country.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
Our real votes are with our dollars. In the current political landscape we are much more powerful as consumers than we are as citizens. If you think the financial elite robbed the country blind in the last decade then choose a bank that wasn’t a part of it. It’s the same logic as “every vote counts.” If every banking consumer went that route the financial elites would listen, and the politicians who they feed would have to as well.
I vote, but it’s reflexive at this point. It’s how you spend your money that counts.
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 9, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a member of a local credit union. And I vote.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Nov 9, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
not sure if this is intended to be a counter to what i’ve said. my point is not to encourage people not to vote. that our daily choices with our money have much more of an impact on our government and society than our annual (or twice-yearly, if you vote in primaries) choices at the ballot box.
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 9, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
No – not a counter, agreeance. I put my money into the credit union when my local bank (Chestnut Hill Nat’l) was bought by a larger regional bank with questionable investing practices. Quite deliberate on my part. I also don’t have my retirement in the stock market.
And I vote.
(More clear? Sorry.)
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Nov 9, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
As a bell, and no apology needed. If enough Flyers fans made the switch maybe a credit union can buy the Wells Fargo Center.
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 9, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
No. I’m not.
Yes, you are. (Seeing as that was your whole argument, I see no need to justify mine either.)
Average Americans are too stupid to be entrusted with electing the people responsible for running this country.
Ah, this is actually an arguable and cohesive point. The country was founded not as a democracy, but as a republic – where only certain individuals had the right to make national policy, and the ‘representatives’ in the national assemby were intended to act for the good of the nation (not their constituents, and not themselves). I do agree that most people don’t deserve to vote – I actually had to spend several hours educating my in-laws about the races going on just at the local level so they could make (somewhat) educated decisions yesterday.
So by not voting, you choose to be a member of that group? The ineffectual and undeserving? Remember – if you aren’t part of the solution you’re part of the problem. Don’t like the candidates? Promote someone else to run, or do it yourself. If more than the lunatic fringe voted (the so-called ‘party base’) then their effect on the national parties would be lessened. Same in Philly – if people actually cared, the same-old hacks wouldn’t cut the mustard year after year. Not caring and not making an effort simply guarantees no change (that’s kinda the slogan of the Occupy movements, ya know.)
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Nov 9, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
3:15 PM Number: 5/7
I’ll be 5/7 more productive around the house this week with only 2 Flyers games.
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Icethetics is usually reliable with their concepts:
Sigh. Basically their current homes with fake white and inverted numbering/outline. I would have liked a break from the shoulder stripe.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I was hoping for a fairly large departure from the norms but I’ve long since accepted that probably wasn’t happening.
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My thoughts as well, I liked the old Quakers jersey because it was atypical. Even on this design I’m missing the 3 black stripes at the bottom.
by hebrew hammer on Nov 7, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
My only real guideline were Flyers crest and no black, so I guess this qualifies. However, if it is the real deal, it leaves so much want for creativity.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I wanted to go away from the Flyers logo as the main logo, that’s all they’ve ever had, and I would have liked something different that didn’t involve making it “3-D”. If the Bruins can do jerseys that don’t have the spoked B, the Red Wings can do Jerseys without the winged wheel, and the Habs can do jerseys without the C & H, then the Flyers really don’t have to be so stubborn with their logo (Despite the former starting as a Bear silhouette briefly, and latter two referencing the Cougars and Club (Athletic) Canadien respectively).
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I kinda like the fact that they’ve never played a game without the winged P. I certainly didn’t want to change that for the Winter Classic.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Put it on the shoulders then or just don’t make a new jersey. I don’t need a recycled jersey with another newish color scheme; it’s both old and played out.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I don’t think you need any more jerseys, regardless of what’s on the chest.
I really have no stake in this conversation, anyway. There’s nothing they could do to make me buy this jersey.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I didn’t mean for purchase, I meant to unveil one in general, I’d want it to be something creative or at least new for all the hype behind it.
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You got considerably less shit than I did when I said basically the same thing so I’m kind of pissed about that.
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 8, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm, has some elements in common with what Puck Daddy posted earlier, but much more like the current home jerseys. This one says Reebok on the back, while the concept on PD has the obsolete vector. Wonder if that indicates anything about the authenticity. I think I like the other better simply because it is more distinct from the normal jerseys, and it has the laces. Either way, I like they keystone patch.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I thought we already got confirmed concepts of what the WC jersey is going to be? Or was that just another rumor?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Yeah, Dave Isaac said “sources confirm”.
His sources appear to be wrong.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
For what it’s worth, the one Hintzy posted was also confirmed by some sources. But every design has had at least one source (usually “executive” or “high level”) debunk it.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Yup.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 7, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Wishing the Flyers a great road trip
I’m leaving tomorrow for merry old England so I won’t be posting until after Nov 17th! Everyone take care.
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CoLOLOLOLOLumbus
I move that this be considered the team’s new name until they hit .500, if that ever happens.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
The CoLOLOLOLOLumbus Blue JaHAHAHAHAHAckets
"Simba needs to sharpen his claws" - Ilya Bryzgalov, on Scott Hartnell
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You would.
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