Well, at least HBO 24/7 will be entertaining: Bruins crush Flyers, 6-0
by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2011 4:20 PM EST
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John Tortorella beat Peter Laviolette in the f-bomb count on HBO 24/7's debut last week. We're guessing Lavi is going to be evening the scales on this week's installment. The Flyers were absolutely demolished today by the Boston Bruins, 6-0, on home ice, and the coach almost certainly lit into the team in the locker room.
You know all that cheery bullshit we saw last week on the show? There will be more of it this time around (thanks Caps), but damn, it actually might be sort of refreshing to see the other side of the coin. The Peter Laviolette Destroys A Fridge stuff. You're lying if you say you're not excited to watch that tirade on Wednesday night.
After all, you know what? Yeah, they lost 6-0 today. It sucked a big one. But they just won seven straight games, and a 6-0 loss is just as bad in the standings as a 1-0 loss. I'm less concerned about the loss on the scoreboard than I am about the injuries continuing to pile up, anyway.
Sean Couturier left the game after getting hit in the head with a friggin hockey puck. Kimmo Timonen blasted and Juicy's head got in the way. Because the Flyers absolutely cannot catch a break when it comes to injuries. He went to the hospital, according to Paul Holmgren after the game, and let's all hope he's okay. Precautionary and all of that stuff.
Ugh, alright. Abrupt ending but I'm done writing about this game. At least this was neat...
Eat it, Lucic. Horton too.
Questions with Answers
- Today is the first game where the Flyers know they're without Chris Pronger for the rest of the year. It doesn't seem like it'll change their attitude towards the game, but something like that can be jarring. Is there any impact in the way the team plays? Uhhhhhhhhhhhh.
- The Bruins are 18-0-0 when they score three goals, so the Flyers keep them to under three goals, right? lol
- Boston is a very good road team, while the Flyers have been just average at home on the season. These trends clearly mean nothing... don't they? lol x2
- Don't look now, but Matt Carle has points in four straight games. Five? Pucks need to go in the net for players to get points.
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Fuck this, I'm going food shopping.
>> mikefive
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Yeah what’s the juicy reference? Im not saying I don’t like it, I actually do haha, but I just don’t get it?
Yeah, but given the “cooter” nickname nobody’s going to associate juicy with clothing. Try having Jim Jackson explain it to the kids during a broadcast. "What’s a juicy cooter? “It’s a little snack that, uh, comes in a box and you can use your straw, hey Jonesy can you answer the fan mail here…” Or Coates. Now that would be funny. “It’s the second intermission and we’re snuggled away here in Coatesy’s Corner with our very own juicy cooter.”
Haute wouldn’t work.
How about Fashion? Or Paris. He’s French-Canadian and it’s a clothing center. And his surname is about fashion and garments.
Or we could all move to the UK where such slang is much less awkward, complimentary even at times.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 17, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
plus his twitter handle is juicy couturier
by The Gang Wins the Cup on Dec 18, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
That’s not him, that’s some girl.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Dec 18, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I win!
Notice how I almost never join game threads unless the Flyers are losing…
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Congratulations?
More seriously, though, your comment was the most apropos to the whole evening…
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Dec 18, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I was still listening to the game as I was driving around…
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Well, that’s certainly better than having watched it. Ugh…
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Dec 19, 2011 7:00 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, yes. Haha.
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by light_the_lamp on Dec 17, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Post Game Show
They said the puck hit Cooter in the helmet, that he responded well to the initial tests, that he’s being kept in a quiet room, and that they’re going to keep him there and do tests and stuff and be like “be okay man”
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
No way I believe that. When he “woke up” lying on the ice he probably thought he was home in bed. He looked very unsteady on his feet and fell again in the tunnel. I’m thinking someone needs a CT to make sure he didn’t get a subdural or a skull fracture. God forbid it hit his temple. That could kill you instantly. I saw a man get hit by a golf ball hit off the tee 200 yards from where he was killed instantly.
by lava96 on Dec 17, 2011 4:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It looked dangerously close to the temple.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
It hit him behind his ear on his helmet. Where is the temple located again?
And yeah, they’re running tests now to make sure there’s no skull or internal damage.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
That spot that’s, like, between your eye and your ear? That’s your temple.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
crap, i’ve been telling my kids that’s the taint.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 17, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Mini-rant.
after this, all of the “omg we need Chris Pronger” is going to start and everyone’s going to get traded and then i’ll die. I don’t think we NEED Pronger. Sure, he’s a great addition and all but we did just win seven games without him. and if any stupid trades happen, i will be very unhappy and lose even more faith in Holmgren.
but seriously, i see rumors about Matt carle and Bob being traded. i know they’re rumors, but so were all of the things about Jeff Carter being traded. It just worries me that we’ll be taking a step back if either of these guys get traded.
Why trade a defenseman for a defenseman when we’re trying to replace a defenseman? it just leaves us in the same situation.
by ForTheLoveOfBob on Dec 17, 2011 4:53 PM EST reply actions
As currently constructed with a healthy Claude Giroux this team could not and would not beat Boston in a 7 game series with Boston having home ice. Boston has more talent when healthy, so on and so forth. This is not debatable. It wasn’t last year in the playoffs, and would not be the case this year. In order to beat Boston, Chris Pronger would need to be his 100% self come a potential playoff series against the Bruins, and I don’t see that happening. Is there a possible Chris Pronger alternative in the NHL that would come at a reasonable price? No. Accepting these guidelines, making a move for a defenseman would be fruitless, because you won’t get a Chris Pronger like defenseman without losing a substantial part of your team.
This team is a very good team with a healthy Giroux (top 4 in the East). I’d suggest rolling the dice, perhaps looking for a defensive minded forward, and keeping this team together. Maybe Boston gets bounced in the first round, maybe not. It’s not worth trading a vital piece just to be in a dead heat with Boston to be the most talented team in the East.
Flyers should stick to their guns, win more games than lose with Giroux out of the lineup, and then go from there.
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 17, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
I simply don’t believe that. Maybe in some kind of statistical running of how it would play out the Flyers would lose the majority of the time, but I think they can beat the Bruins in 7 games.
And I also think the Flyers should have signed Chara when he was a free agent.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Chara resigned with Boston a year before he hit free agency, I believe.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
We kept Couturier up and burned a year of his ELC because he’s a defensive-minded forward. Let’s wait and hear the prognosis on him before we decide to trade for another one.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
there is no such thing as having too many defensive minded forwards on your bottom line. Kick Shelley’s ass out, depending on your opinion of Rinaldo, do whatever, and go from there. The defense will need help, and that’s why I’d suggest looking for a defensive minded forward
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 17, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Or, better idea: can we get Blair Betts out of hiding?
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
And while I was far from in tears about Nodl being gone…you bet your ass they don’t waive him if they knew this was all coming.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, it was a move made in rather poor taste, and poor GM’ing
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 17, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
you chose wisely
sometimes a dose of realism is a liberating experience and even leads to greater things, even that which you’ve always wanted
you always know the right thing to say
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 18, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
If you want to live in a “anything’s possible” Brzyyyy universe then yes, we don’t absolutely have to have Pronger, and we spend lots of time as fans in that universe.
In the real world it’s pretty wacky to think this team can get far without him. It’s been true since we traded for him.
That doesn’t mean the GM should start slinging trades. This team has had so much personnel instability since June that there’s been little time to see what’s what. Maybe it’s not a rebuilding year as much as a…consolidating, or dust-settling. It doesn’t mean we don’t try to win the Cup, but there’s also the future to consider.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 17, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s face it… Pronger’s getting old. So is Kimmo for that matter.
We’re going to have to learn to play without him(them) at some point.
I stand by what I said. I don’t think we need him to win.
Trading Carle would be a huge mistake.
And i’m not a Bryz worshipper either. I don’t think he’s all that special either. (and i’m not just saying that because of this one game.) I don’t think he’s lived up to any of the expectations that he was given this off season after the trade.
by ForTheLoveOfBob on Dec 17, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, at some point. The team has to figure out how to win without Pronger at some point but that wasn’t supposed to be for two years, optimistically three of four. The new offensive talent would develop for a little while and then we’d see how the bottom half of the defense and the pipeline look without Pronger-Timonen. If it isn’t cutting it by then hopefully you have abundance somewhere from which to bolster the blueline with trades, or there is space for a free agent. At that point your roster isn’t dependent on Pronger the way this one is. But that’s not now.
Bryzgalov isn’t living up to anyone’s expectations, even those that weren’t high, and even those who lay most of this year’s problems on the defense. He’ll probably never live up to the highest expectations, but he won’t need to provide value equal to his contract to have had a successful stay here. He needs to be a good to very good goalie most of the time and a great one sometimes.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 17, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. Still love Rinaldo. Embrace it, Embrace his crazy everyone
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
Negative Ghostrider
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 17, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Can someone who watched the game tell me how this happened?! Did the flyers play really bad or are the bruins just this good after a slow start? A little bit of column a and column b?
by PhilsForever on Dec 17, 2011 5:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Also, was bryz that bad too?
by PhilsForever on Dec 17, 2011 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Flyers weren’t feeling it, Boston was. Flyers are on the road, tired, and dejected from the Pronger news. Bryz was not bad, just lots of bad plays in front of him.
People will use this game to say “The Flyers can’t beat Boston”. And they will ignore the earlier game because that is how you make an argument.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Bryz wasn’t particularly good, but I wouldn’t say he let in any softies or anything like that. Just didn’t make a ton of impossible saves.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
FTFY
Bryz wasn’t particularly good, but I wouldn’t say he let in any softies or anything like that. Just didn’t make a ton of any impossible saves
He actually did make a couple of really nice ones in the first period…not that it’s worth trying to tell you that.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 18, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
really nice and impossible are two different things, yeah he stopped a break away but that wasnt a laser or anything…hey if he was even close to his career numbers i wouldnt be saying a thing
lol idk playing as well as you did in your old city is that big of a request is it…especially when he played like that under less lucrative contract we sign him and his five hole is damn near as big as leightons
He’s had a couple of rough games, sure. But he’s been getting better as the season has progressed. Let’s not throw the guy under the bus just yet. It’s not his fault that everyone was flat yesterday.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
not going by yesterday…even though bob came in and held his own better
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Bob played here last year. Bryz never has. It’s always a big adjustment for players to come to Philadelphia, no matter how good they are. This is especially true of someone like Bryzgalov, who has only played for teams like Anaheim and Phoenix in the NHL. They don’t exactly have the same hockey environment that Philadelphia does.
I hate the guy’s contract, but give him a chance.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
If the Flyers played well, the game would have been closer, but Boston probably would have won by a goal or two. The Flyers didn’t play well, and they were down 5 goals by the midpoint of the game. Without Giroux, the Flyers ceiling is severely limited. A ricochet goal, and a few penalties taken here and there, and Boston had a 3-0 in the first 10 minutes. Flyers played a mediocre game, but I don’t think it would’ve made a huge difference if they played well, because of the injuries endured
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 17, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you think the Flyers are THAT BAD without Giroux? He is the best player on this team, by a wide margin, but I mean, they do have players on this team. They didn’t lose tonight because they didn’t have Giroux.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
I didn’t say they were THAT BAD. The lineup without Giroux can win more games than they lose, and I think they will. Boston was healthy and it showed. The Flyers were without Giroux, and it showed
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 17, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Lucic needs to be suspended. That was a dirty hit and he’s a jerk-face goon. >:(
"I hit him in the first [Islanders-Flyers] game. He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
- John Tavares, after getting a chipped tooth from being boarded by Pronger
He'll never understand
Only Seguin lying dazed in the quiet room will get through his thick skull.
Ladies and Gentlemen the Flyers are going to win the Stanley Cup! The Flyers ...
by Fr. Orange and Black on Dec 17, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Why Seguin?
:)
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by light_the_lamp on Dec 17, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
don’t even get what seguin has to do with lucic, but its worth mentioning that lucic was on the roster when savard went to the quiet room for what looks to be the rest of his career.
don’t get me wrong, i’d hate on him if i was a flyer’s fan right now…but to think that sending a message to seguin would make lucic play any differently is laughable.
This is just 1 of 82 regular season games
This is a game I wanted the Flyers to win because I have a lot of relatives around Bahston. They got their asses kicked. We’ll get them in January!
These games happen. I’m interested in seeing how the Flyers come out against Colorado on Monday night.
Homer better not make a panic move. Let the young guys play and evaluate in February. It all depends on when Giroux comes back. You can be thankful for the HBO cameras for 24/7 because the Flyers won’t screw up the diagnosis for Giroux. Unlike, Lindros, Primeau, feel free to add more names, there is now documentation of the Flyers training and medical staff. If they screw this up, it’s on flim. The Flyers won’t take a chance.
On to Denver and beat the Avs!!!
But you can’t deprive us fans from being bi-polar. “Have your feet planted firmly in the HUMONGOUS stars with your hands reaching for the bottle of pills.”
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 17, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Hey BEN!
I had the pleasure of watching a fella by the name of Zemgus Girgensons and I’m just wondering if you’ve ever heard of him. He plays in the USHL for Dubuque(where I played :D) and he is from Latvia. He’s one of the best players in the league right now, he’s quite a talent. Plus his name and latvian descent seem to be right up your alley. Heard of him?
by kckrebs on Dec 17, 2011 6:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I thought for sure my breaking of the Rollins news on BSH would win me my first COTN of the season. Fiddlesticks.
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It was a hell of a good effort.
"Fly Eagles fly..."
"Only the Lord saves more than Bernie..."
by 92-74-99-96 on Dec 17, 2011 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FYI, I thought it should have too. It was literally the only good sports-related news during the game.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
With all due respect to your comment, it had nothing to do with the Flyers game or the sport of hockey.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Which is EXACTLY why it should have been COTN (sorry, Mike) since nothing having to do with the Flyers game or the sport of hockey was very good yesterday.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Sadly, this is true.
"Fly Eagles fly..."
"Only the Lord saves more than Bernie..."
by 92-74-99-96 on Dec 19, 2011 8:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well i missed this abomination and kinda glad of it. Haven’t bothered watching the low-low lights of the game but did skim over the game threads, good old fashioned butt-kicking. Lets Couturier isn’t badly injured but from what some of you guys say I’m not feeling good about his chances.
Lets hope we bounce back against Denver……………i mean Colorado.
#2 Flyers fan in England behind Orange and Black Forever (Damn him and his Americanness)
#1 Eagles fan in England behind NO one!
Glad for the rep from across the pond!
Glad to see you are here! I’ve got great friends from Brighton who, on their most recent trip over, have fallen in love with the game of hockey, (and the Flyers of course). Nice to see you!
by Gunslinger82 on Dec 17, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
I’m a huge Flyers and Eagles fan, try to stay up for most Flyer games and comment on the live threads. Got into both sports through my two older brothers, one’s a pens fan urgh! I live in Kent myself, not far from Brighton and like your friends I’m planning on a trip to Philly sometime in the next year, depending on work of course.
Also love BSH and the people that make up this fun, friendly and comical community.
#2 Flyers fan in England behind Orange and Black Forever (Damn him and his Americanness)
#1 Eagles fan in England behind NO one!
Folks, a word from reality if you please...
The sky is not yet falling. I love this team as it has played thus far through the adversity, injuries etc. Today was a game that Boston had marked down as a must win since the first game of the season when we made them look like tools at home after their stupid banner raising. Add to that the fact that you can’t keep up the crazy bounces that we were getting that kept us in some pretty out of reach games.
We are a team made of grit and the guys in the locker room I’m sure are addressing what needs to be done. Hopefully nobody tries to mess with the team dynamic that has been built thus far and we’ll see a revitalized group on Monday.
Love you guys and Happy Holidays to all of you Broad Street Hockey Maniacs,
Me
This game sucked.
The starting goalie was bad. The defense and offense were bad. Nothing seemed to go right.
But honestly, after thinking about it for a bit, I’m not all that surprised at what happened. Sustaining a 7 game win streak takes a lot. It’s got to be hard to keep that up against a healthy and skilled team when you’re missing 3 players due to concussions. Especially when two of them are generally major factors on your team, and the other one is touted as a future star. The morale probably took a hit with the reveal that Pronger was not going to be back until next season at the absolute earliest, if he’s able to come back at all. And then Scooter’s head injury was just another hit to the team. They’re a great team of players, but the pressure has got to have been building.
Hopefully they’ll look at this game and be able to put it past them, get on the ice next game and kick some ass. Play the next game for Scooter, Schenn, G, and Pronger. Bad games happen. But it’s not going to be the death of this team unless they let it happen. And there’s too many good guys on the Flyers for them to let that happen.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates
I'm sick and tired of the word luck.
I detest this. When something lucky happens for the Flyers, it’s some kind of negative, and that the Flyers will fall down to Earth at some point and suck. When the opponents have something lucky happen, it’s because they’re good.
It’s stupid. This attitude needs to stop. Boston had a lot of dirty or lucky goals, and they got lucky that Cooter got hit in the head, and they got lucky that the refs had a hard on for calling Flyer penalties. It’s luck both ways. Stop the “Well Boston is such a good team” nonsense. We beat them in what should have been the most important game of the year for them, and on their home turf. The Flyers look a little different today, but when we meet them later and if we meet them in the playoffs, both teams will look different.
We can beat Boston. We freaking just had the longest win streak in the NHL this season. The random negativity on here over a loss is just annoying. There’s real things to be negative about, like our awful injury bug, but “luck” is not the thing to target. And if you do target it, apply it to both teams.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
To be fair, the longest win streak in the NHL this season was Boston’s 10-gamer…
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 18, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Random Question
with all the injuries happening. lotsa call ups are gonna be needed. where does the Phantoms call guys up from?
The Trenton Titans of the ECHL.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 17, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I had to leave shortly after Couturier went down, to go to the hospital because a close friend’s mom had to go for emergency surgery. She had diverticulitis and part of her intestine ruptured. She’s okay now, still out of it with the anethesia, but she should be okay. We sat with my friend in the waiting room all afternoon until her family got there from New Jersey.
I was already quite shaken seeing Scooter get hit (something about a nineteen-year-old getting hurt like that messed me up) and then not even ten minutes after that happened, we got a phone call from my friend…I almost passed out twice right there in the hospital. What a terrible day.
Needless to say, I enjoyed a strong mojito at the first opportunity, and some kind of other drink that was pink…something to do with sharks, I don’t know. Is a Shark Attack a drink? Another friend (not the one with the sick mom) made it for me. Then I ate lots of chocolate cake. Loooots of cake. And shoo-fly pie.
Whatever. I’m going to sleep.
/yes, I was fishing for a pity party.
I <3 our rookies.
I was trying to think of a joke that had something to do with fishing, shark attack and cake but couldn’t come up with one, maybe because its late or that I’m too stupid………probably the latter!
Anyways hopefully your mum’s friend gets well soon and you have a better day tomorrow :)
Also I love how you guys spell ‘mom’, and what’s shoo-fly pie?
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I love how you guys spell it “mum” and it results in little kids saying “mummy” which always makes me wonder when we started talking about Egypt.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates
I hate it when kids say mummy, I suppose I associate it with really posh kids and they annoy me.
#2 Flyers fan in England behind Orange and Black Forever (Damn him and his Americanness)
#1 Eagles fan in England behind NO one!
Agreed.
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Dec 19, 2011 7:00 AM EST up reply actions
Shoo-fly pie is a regional dessert (Pennsylvania German) made with molasses and brown sugar. It’s basically a gooey sugar pie. It’s awesome.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 17, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
UKFlyer, I have had many of these when I was still living in the States, and they are indeed awesome. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Dec 18, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I used to have friends who lived in Lebanon. I always ate too much of it when I went out there.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
You know, when I first read this I was thinking “baklava?”, then I realized “Lebanon” might be differently interpreted here. :-))
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Lebanon Valley, PA is in central PA and is in the middle of Amish/PA Dutch country.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
My pop pop was born there, lol.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
by doubleh on Dec 18, 2011 6:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Also, thanks for the well wishes.
Here’s a recipe for shoo-fly pie. http://www.berksweb.com/pam/shoofly.html It’s probably not as good as my grandmother’s, but it will probably work :)
If you’ve ever had pecan pie, it’s kind of like that, but minus the pecans and adding brown sugar crumbs.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 17, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t had shoo-fly pie since my mother died years ago. Good stuff, that. It’s something UKFlyer should put on his list of things to try when he visits Philly.
Perhaps it helps to tell you the Phantoms won tonight w/ Holmstrom scoring the GWG on a penalty shot.
have it after Scrapple, another specialty from the PA Dutch community, so you can do the savory and sugary thing at the same meal. leave the marmite home.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 18, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Scrapple is one of those things you either love or you hate. My husband and parents love it. I don’t eat meat anymore, but when I did, I hated scrapple. It’s like a spicy pork/beef/??? meat loaf- you fry individual slices and eat it for breakfast. It should be crispy on the outside and soft on the inside. Many people put maple syrup on it. If you get it, go to a diner or small family-type restaurant to get it. No idea where to go for authentic PA Dutch food in Philly, you might need to travel northwest a little bit.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 18, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
They used to have Scrapple at one of the restaurants in the Reading Terminal Market. Down Home Diner, I think it’s called. There are also quite a few PA Dutch selling their wares in the NW corner of the market. You can find shoofly pie there. There is a place called the Dutch Eating Place in the market but it’s more of a regular restaurant.
PA Dutch aside, Reading Terminal is maybe the most fun place in the city for food-oriented people. Ninth St. in South Philly is pretty great too. Homemade ricotta cheese. Yum.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 18, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
oh, and get the Lebanon Bologna from the PA Dutch. It’s fantastic.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 18, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Follow in the spirit of Bryz...
Matt Read for Calder!
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I finally watched 24/7 tonight and realized that in the past week the Flyers have lost 2 players (including Scooter) to a concussion caused by a fellow teammate.
Today was an ugly game and not only will it be entertaining on 24/7, but the Rangers won with .01 seconds left tonight.
There’s always tomorrow (that’s my theory at least!)
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Correction
We don’t know for sure yet that Scooter has one.
We can pray, at least.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 17, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
3
Nodl was concussed after colliding with Danny Briere.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 18, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
I’m glad family obligations made me miss most of this one.
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by doubleh on Dec 18, 2011 12:09 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Yes, be very grateful you missed this game. It was the kind where you laugh in mild hysterics in the middle of it, and then can’t muster any emotion at all at the end due to creeping numbness.
A truly missable occasion…
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by Orange and Black Forever on Dec 18, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
I was numb from the game and the amount of burgundy it made me consume during it. All in all, a truly forgettable game.
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"Only the Lord saves more than Bernie..."
by 92-74-99-96 on Dec 19, 2011 8:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
That probably helped on my end too. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well. That sucked.
Just curious, but did anyone else notice Chara shoving Couturier from behind while he was trying to avoid Timonen’s slap shot?
by charlie yankee on Dec 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
This
Not sure if intentional; but if it was that’s hate-worthy
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 18, 2011 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
He’s been a dickhead for a long time.
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by 92-74-99-96 on Dec 19, 2011 8:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Giroux: Concussed on Saturday
Pronger: Concussed on Saturday (we think)
Schenn: Concussed on Saturday
Scooter: Injured on Saturday.
That’s four in the last four Saturday games. No more Saturday games, eva.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
I thought they said Pronger was either concussed because of the Maple Leafs game (a Monday) or that hit in the first Coyotes game (Thursday). Though I guess he started feeling the effects of it against Winnipeg, which was a Saturday.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 18, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
Someone has probably mentioned this already, but
Scooter won’t be traveling to Colorado.
These injuries have been so bizarre:(
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Colorado would be really bad place for non-Coloradans to go if you thought there was even a chance for something like a concussion, given the (1) plane flight with changing altitude and (2) thin air in Denver
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Then you might not want to ignore posts below this one and avoid news of G for the next few days.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Dec 18, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Holmstrom and Lilja are back up.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 18, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions
Giroux
“Claude Giroux is out on the ice skating with the team at practice here in Colorado…” from the Flyers Facebook. It even has a picture.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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Video Proof
http://video.flyers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hcatid=771&id=143319
needs more mustache
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Some good news for us
G traveled with the team and was seen skating with them in practice today.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Dec 18, 2011 3:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Everyone get your grains of salt!
INJURY UPDATE: Paul Holmgren on Sean Couturier: “Sean was released from the hospital today & will be re-evaluated tomorrow. He is day to day with a head injury.”
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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apparently la is shopping johnson…would he be worth the trade and can he replace pronger?
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MICHAEL!
What, LA and the Flyers making a trade? Has this ever happened?
Aren't they, like, totally different types of teams?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
You need to double-space two-lined comments in the code/sarcasm font.
All I can make out in the top line is “What? LA and the Flyers making a trade? - this -- happened?”
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Your missing words are ‘Has’ and ‘ever’!
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This. For the curious:
What, LA and the Flyers making a trade? Has this ever happened?
Aren't they, like, totally different types of teams?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Not the problem. It was that you must leave a space for two sentence.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
The Hurricanes have a pair of defensemen that would hit the spot. Gleason and Allen have cap hits under $3M, have expiring contracts and are good, gritty hard nose guys. Perfect compliments to our top 4, with some cap space to burn in case of injury/another deal. Carolina is already out of it, so take the 2nd rounder we got from LA, give it to CAR and make a deal for one of those guys.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
Bryan Allen for Matt Walker and a third.
Do it, Homer!
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
This is a much better line of thinking. I think MAB is going to be fine on this roster, but if we need to add someone, it’s someone like that.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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I think we’d be OK with the top 4, then Lilja and Gus as the top 6, with MAB as #7 going forward, but come playoff time, especially if we run into Boston again, I’d want someone with a some more seasoning on the 3rd line. Allen is bigger 6’5" vs. 6’0"), but older (31 vs 28). I suppose it depends on what you intend to do with Carle- if you think you can resign him, go for Allen. If not, you may want the younger player in Gleason in hopes you can resign him to replace Carle.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
You can’t replace Carle, and there’s no reason why you shouldn’t make resigning him your number one priority.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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Absolutely. Either him or (and I still can’t believe this name is about to be typed…) Jagr should be priority one. Therefore, target Allen, negotiate with Carle and settle for Gleason if need be.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
Yeah I’d target Allen if you want to gameplan for Chara.
Jagr should resign. Carle should resign for maybe a million more. And Voracek might not even need a bigger payraise.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Voracek will get a raise. The Flyers will once again have to make decisions this off-season.
I’m really liking Voracek and hope they keep him around.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
He’s getting 2,250 right now. He can’t get that much of a raise. Only five forwards make more than him. He’ll probably push up to 3 million-ish, but he’s not passing Giroux’s 3,750. I can see him below 3.
Carle is at 3,437. Coburn is going from 3,200 to 4,500. I can see them giving Carle the same offer.
If they keep Pronger on LTIR, it should be enough to cover Carle, Coburn, and JVR’s cap increase.
sigh The Flyers Cap Room is a nightmare. JVR’s contract is rather ridiculous, isn’t it? Giroux’s doubly. And then we have the albatross of Bryzgalov. What a shithole.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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Giroux has one of the best contracts in the league, guys who are producing at his rate are going for double his cap hit, if not more.
The cap situation is in flux due to the CBA, but there’s no reason to think something resembling the current system will be in place, perhaps with a percentage for the floor and not a set difference in exchange for no escrow. However, the cap situation, if it were to remain the same, with a modest increase, to $66.4M, would look something like this:
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m)
Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Jaromir Jagr ($1.300m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.750m)
/ / Ben Holmstrom ($0.825m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.737m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
Matt Carle ($4.437m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $66,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,250,873; BONUSES: $3,555,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $49,127
It’s doable, albeit with little wiggle room. And it assumes that Jagr signs a sweetheart deal to keep playing with Giroux. What will probably happen is that they’ll have to make a decision to resign Jagr or Carle.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
Matt Carle wins that decision hands down.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I was kicking it around in my head a little bit more and it looks like it would be a pick-two between V, Carle and Jagr (unless somebody Leinos V). It depends on what Carle can get on the open market, and how much, if any, discount Jagr would take for staying with this team.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
Welcome back capgeek rosters!
/while I don’t mind, half of BSHers want that comment in sarcastic mode too.
This is a reasonable roster, other than Jagr. I don’t think he signs for this. But it also assumes a cap raise. If that doesn’t happen, someone else needs to go too (or a 21 man roster would be required,not really a great idea).
I’ve posted elsewhere that it is unlikely for all of Carle, V and Jagr to be re-signed. This capgeek is further proof.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Why would Jagr take a $2 million paycut?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 18, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Because he really, really, really REALLY likes playing with Giroux. It’s unrealistic, but it shows what would have to happen to keep all three of them around. Looks like a pick-two situation to me.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
Of course, if the cap goes up as much as it did last year, then we could get all three of them back. I don’t see that happening, a lot of that raise was from the new TV contract. There isn’t something out there that will generate more money then before, aside from the Jets making more $ then the Trashers and ticket price increases.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
Jagr is here to showcase himself to other teams. I know he said on 24/7 that he really likes it here, but I don’t see him taking that much of a pay cut to stay.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I’d love to keep him, but I’m not sure if it’s realistic to expect him back. Hopeful, but…
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by 92-74-99-96 on Dec 19, 2011 8:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jagr is on a one year contract. He’s older, so this means one of two things.
1. He’s here to show off his talents to the NHL.
2. He’s here to win.
If he’s here for the first, he’s gone. Someone will pay him five million, and he’ll take it.
If it’s number two, while I don’t think he’d take a two million paycut, they’ll probably find a way to make it work.
Either way, Jagr’s expiring contract is one of the few ways the Flyers can make their roster work next season. You think Betts’s and Lappy’s combined almost two million will help? It doesn’t even cover JVR’s increase.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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Do we all agree Pronger has to be on LTIR from now on? Many of us don’t think he can play anymore, and we kind of… used his cap space already.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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For this year, yes, although the cap space is available for use (see trade conversations above). After this year, the new CBA might throw everything up in the air. Right now, they’ve got 20 players signed for next year at $59.7M, which includes Pronger and Walker.
The real test will be in 2015, when Mez, Giroux, Schenn, Scooter, and Read will all be free agents. Only G will be restricted.
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I doubt that. 2014-15 will approach without that situation changing. The only downside is Briere will still be here for one year. Giroux would basically demand his entire salary, perhaps less depending on the climate.
Schenn will probably go to close to or over 5 million, if he is the Schenn we expect. Coutierier might get a three million contract like Giroux, or he might get a contract like JVR. Mesz will probably stay close to where he is now, four million is a lot.
It’ll be interesting to see what the cap space situation is like then. If the Flyers have any real pull, they should be getting big market accommodations by then.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Giroux’s agent might actually go for 8 million. And if he held firm on it, someone would pay it.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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Giroux is an RFA. He either gets paid by us, or we get four first round draft picks for him, or he holds out and doesn’t play hockey, or we trade him to what would be a crazy crazy bidding war. Thanks to some genius by Paul Holmgren, we will have an amazing level of leverage in the Giroux negotiations.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
Schenn and Couturier will also be restricted.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
I would be fine if my above trade takes place and the Flyers have this:
Timonen-Coburn
The Meszaros-Hot Carle
Allen-Gustafsson (or MAB)
Lilja
In the offseason, re-sign Carle and let Allen walk. I’d take Allen as a rental, especially if it means Matt Walker’s not being on the team anymore.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
The Hurricanes have a pair of defensemen that would hit the spot.
Hurricanes’ d-men are delicious to eat.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Oh my, yes. It goes good with the BBQ they make down there.
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
Bruce Boudreau’s next coaching job?
Matt Read for Calder!
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He’s got to get fired from Anaheim first.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Don’t see that happening anytime soon. I don’t think that Randy Carlyle has landed anywhere yet, haha…
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by light_the_lamp on Dec 18, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
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