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Friday Morning Fly By: Do You Want Matt Walker To Clear? I Haven't Decided Yet

There are only 8 photos of Matt Walker in a Flyers jersey in our AP/Getty database. And one of them isn't even him  (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...

  • Frank Seravalli chimes in on Matt Walker, saying he's "likely to play" today, adding "A source close to the situation said he believes '99 percent' that" no one will claim Walker: [Frequent Flyers]
  • Chris Pronger is concerned over his mystery virus: [delcotimes.com] [CSNPhilly] [Inquirer] [Philly Sports Daily] [NHL Hot Stove] [The Checking Line]
  • Jakub Kovar stopped 28 of 30 shots in a 5-2 win: [euroflyers]
  • Through November, Niko Hovinen has a 1.94 goals against average and 0.929 save percentage in 24 games. Jakub Kovar has a 2.22 goals against average and 0.930 save percentage in 25 games: [euroflyers]
  • Former top prospect Joacim Eriksson has a 1.75 goals against average and 0.935 save percentage in 14 games: [Eliteprospects]
  • An awesome interview with Danny Syvret, Offensive Dynamo about his time playing for Dale Hunter and the 59-7-2 London Knights: [pjstar.com]
  • An even awesomer interview in which Danny Syvret, Offensive Dynamo answers a series of rapid-fire, off-topic questions where you get to learn all about him. What his favorite part of Thanksgiving dinner is, Dancing With the Stars or American Idol, and how awkward he gets when asked to choose between Jessica Alba and Scarlett Johansson: [pjstar.com]
  • Gary Bettman spoke about realignment last night, but he didn't really say much: [NHL.com]
  • David Krejci just got paid more than he deserved: [Puck Daddy]
  • Adding the possibility of a breakout year to projection systems is only logical: [Hockey Prospectus]
  • Part four on Jonathan Willis' look at the Blue Jackets, this time looking at what to do to fix them: [Hockey Prospectus]
  • Using shot locations to determine how much better goalies were than average: [Arctic Ice Hockey]
  • Background and graphs of the new wave hitting non-traditional metrics: O-zone Corsi Charts: [Hockey Prospectus]
  • Like acrostics and foreshadowing? [Japers' Rink]

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The Krejci contract is an overpayment. So is, I feel, the contract Victor Hedman got. 4 million a year through his years or RFA eligibility and while Hedman is good that is still paying for potential. Both of them really put JVR’s contract in context.

Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 2, 2011 6:28 AM EST reply actions  

Stats question

Is there any issue with Corsi Rel QoT? It’s just that all sorts of analyses (those Oz coke charts for example) seem to combine Corsi Rel QoC and O-zone start but ignore quality of teammates, which would impact on Corsi a fair bit wouldn’t it?

Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 2, 2011 6:42 AM EST reply actions  

The biggest problem with it is that a player often impacts his own score quite a bit.

In ‘09-10, Chris Kunitz spent 68% of his ice time with Sidney Crosby, and finished with a Corsi Rel of +12.3. That’s going to make Crosby’s Corsi Rel QoT look like he spent a lot of time with a great player, when really what happened is he spent a lot of time with a player who spent a lot of time with a great player.

Players don’t play with all that many different teammates, so it’s usually easy enough to look up a player’s most common linemates and make a subjective decision about how good those individuals are. In the instances where you really want the objective answer, I’d then do a WOWY analysis (looking at the player’s stats with or without each linemate) to gauge whether the linemates made comparable contributions or whether one of them really drove the play more than the other.

by Eric T. on Dec 2, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Crosby even makes crosby better.

Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011

by chrislanci on Dec 2, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

When does free agency start? Jesus it feels like the damn off season at this point.

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DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.

by MJDII on Dec 2, 2011 6:43 AM EST reply actions  

late night game tonight. Have to adjust accordingly

I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.

Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 2, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

Yo CCB

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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by boknows71 on Dec 2, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

seeing as I’ll be working on my NHL be a pro, it’s not that obscene

I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.

Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 2, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I had the same thought this morning and then realized that I can’t watch the game before going out tonight

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by JLS89 on Dec 2, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

awwww yeah

I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.

Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So that might be a fail, or I could just go out late

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by JLS89 on Dec 2, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

21 yet?

I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.

Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup!! 22 actually!

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by JLS89 on Dec 2, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

watch the game at the bar?

I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.

Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 2, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybeee… Sadly, I don’t think my plans involve sports bars tonight :(

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by JLS89 on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

alaskalovestheflyers is a HUGE fan of these west coast games!

by alaskalovestheflyers on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

About the adjusting?

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by MJDII on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, it happens to everyone, alright?

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not thinking it happens to JLS89. Nough Said!

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by MJDII on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Still might need to adjust something(s).

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m glad that someone is watching out for me around here while I’m at work! Thanks M!

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by JLS89 on Dec 2, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Just looking out!

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by MJDII on Dec 2, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent, the climbing gym closes at 10, so I’ll have plenty of time to climb before the game.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course, the game isn’t on TV here, but that’s what we have computers for.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

hey do you have any recommendations for good shoe and harness brands? I’ve only been a few times and so far my equipment has been included, but I’m not about to start paying to rent everything if its going to be 10 bucks each time.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 2, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

My harness is a Black Diamond Momentum AL. I got it as a package deal ($100) with a locking carabiner, ATC, and chalk bag. I was brand new to climbing at the time and, like you, didn’t want to rent every time and didn’t see the need for an expensive harness. I still stand by that. It’s one of the less expensive harnesses out there (~$50 alone), but it is infinitely better than the strap-style rental ones. It’s comfortable and easy to use, I have zero complaints about it. It looks like they sell the Momentum SA as the package deal now instead of the AL. The only difference I can see is that the SA has a fancy “speed adjust” buckle on the waist, and comes in more colors.

As for shoes, I waited a while to buy mine since I felt that was more important to get right. :-p My wife and I tried a bunch of different ones (the gym let us try them on and do a short climb if we wanted), and both decided we prefer lace-up to velcro. Though lately I’ve started seeing people wearing slip-on ones that look interesting. I got a pair of Mad Rock Phoenix and she got Five Ten Coyotes. Both got very positive reviews as being good “all-around” shoes and were relatively inexpensive (~$75). They’re not the crazy aggressive (curved) ones some people have. But shoes are all about fit. I thought the Coyotes didn’t fit my heel right, so I got the Phoenix, and my wife said the opposite. And my shoes fit even better after I wore them a few times, I got the laces just right all the way up the shoe and they’ve shaped to my feet very nicely. So I actually don’t mind wearing them at all, but they’re very snug as they should be. Some people say if they don’t hurt they’re too big, but I disagree with that. You absolutely want them as snug as possible, but you can find a shoe that isn’t painful. For me, that was the lace-up style. I think it gives me finer adjustment to get a good fit. Some people think the velcro is more comfortable (or at least easier to take off between climbs). I’d recommend trying both if possible to see what you like. Oh, and we both wear them without socks (use foot spray when you get home so they don’t stink!) and have had them nearly two years and the soles are still in good shape.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you so much, I think I’m going shopping this weekend for this stuff. I figured I could buy the harness, belay device and such online, but I won’t mess with shoes online for something like this. Also my gym posted a new Groupon for their 10 punch card, which is pretty much perfect timing.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 2, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem, I’ve become very much addicted to the sport and will gladly help others do the same. :-p A groupon and 10-punch card sounds like a pretty sweet deal!

We took a couple outdoor classes this fall, so I’m eager to try that more once it warms up again in the spring. Very different from indoor, but both are awesome.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

At least for now a full fledged monthly membership seems like too big of an investment, I would need to go more than once a week to make it worthwhile and the gym is a bit far away, so at least to start I’ll stick with the punch card, but I’m getting into it really fast so we’ll see how it goes.

Did you do top roping outdoors, or was it all lead climbing?

by hebrew hammer on Dec 2, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we worked up slowly to the membership. We first went on a guest pass with friends who are members, then got an intro package that was two classes and two weeks of unlimited climbing, carefully timed so that we could go like every other day. Then we got two 7-visit passes that we used extremely slowly. Then a summer pass (unlimited for 3 months) to test if we would really go often enough for a membership, and we did, so we signed up. Our gym is $18 for a single visit and a membership for two people is $100/month, so if we go at least 3 times per month (6 visits), it works out in our favor. So a person to share a membership with you is a good investment. :-p

TOP ROPE! Lead climbing looks scary, never tried it. And now I know how to build my own top-rope systems!

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I think I’m going to try and build up the same way. And I totally agree about the lead climbing, I watched a guy do it the other day and it was pretty freaky, seems like you would fall a lot further.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He's

got gear, got gear, got gear….

/song lyric just popped into my head’d

by j reed on Dec 2, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Walker question:

What happens if the team picks him up and waives him later in the season? Does our 850K come off our cap as well if Walker is playing in the AHL? And in even more insane scenario what happens if he comes on re-entry waivers again and the Flyers re-aquire him. Would that make his cap hit 3/4 for the Flyers and 1/4 paid by whoever is stupid enough to re-waive and re-entry a player again?

Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011

by chrislanci on Dec 2, 2011 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

I think the team that claims him pays 1/2, we pay 1/4 and the first team that claimed him pays 1/4.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Dec 2, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, while he’s in the AHL, the $850k is off the Flyers’ cap, and if he goes on reentry waivers, it gets split 1/2-1/4-1/4. I assume that if that claiming team was the Flyers, it would be 3/4-1/4.

by Eric T. on Dec 2, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

shitty but I don’t see him if even picked up staying in the NHL all that long

Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011

by chrislanci on Dec 2, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

That just made me wonder, what if a player you lost on re-entry waivers was claimed by you later on, and then at some point waived and cleared to the minors? I wonder what would happen then, since the cap hit goes off if another team waives them.

That would be a great way to get out of a re-entry claim you lost, just get the player back and you can get rid of the cap hit.

I want somebody to do that just so we see what happens, as well as the 1/2-1/4-1/4 scenario.

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by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 2, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

so if the Flyers were the team that reclaimed we would have him for 3/4 his current salary

Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011

by chrislanci on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

reply fail

Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011

by chrislanci on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Still more than he’s worth.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright I thought of something last night and shared it with Eric, Travis, and Jeff…

What about the possibility of moving Cooter to defense for a bit. You would think they could try that before they took the risk with Walker, but oh well now. Like the Canadiens did with Yannick when their D was decimated with injuries, slide a defensively sound player from a lower line to defense, Cooter would get more time per game, he’d learn more defensively too which can also help him learn how far he can push offensively without being dangerous, and it would help one of our D pairings. I’d prefer to see that instead of 2 career AHL players on a pairing and risking Walker re-entry.

Add in you have Schenn coming back and he can take that 3rd line C and move talbot to the 4th so you really don’t get hurt much at all.

Thoughts?

by captj on Dec 2, 2011 9:18 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

I’d ask Geoff

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by DLJr on Dec 2, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

You just reminded me how much I miss Sami Kapanen.

by Thomas Rzucidlo on Dec 2, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting thought, but unless Couterier played D at some point in junior I don’t think he’d cut it. There’s a huge gap being a good defensive forward and being a defenseman.

by Phalange on Dec 2, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t work, he isn’t tough enough in the corners to take on a forecheck, win a battle and break the puck out. He’s an excellent defensive forward but, imo, that’s it.

by kckrebs on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not just because he’s my “Nodl” but I think Read would be a better candidate.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if I want an 18 year old rookie center playing defense in the NHL. I especially don’t want him playing defense over a former second round pick. But I would rather the Flyers use him as the seventh d than recall Matt Walker.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Holy god that Japer’s Rink acrostic. Wonderful.

this combination of ballet and murder ♥
Twittars!

by JuliaM on Dec 2, 2011 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t get it, what am I missing?

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

If you read the first letter in each line in the bullet points from top to bottom it reads “RIPE 4 FALL”.

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by jello44 on Dec 2, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

“RIPE 4 A FALL”

Forgot that silly A

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by jello44 on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;ylt=AttUKF1ShJukV2tUh0Xv2J7vLYF?slug=nc-cotsonika-crosby_ovechkin_rivalry_power_rankings_120111

apparently we measure the best player solely in terms of points?

I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.

Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 2, 2011 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

Points and clutchness. And goalie masks. Sometimes (if it fits in Geoff’s desired viewpoint) CorsiQoRelBobOMatic%. Oh, and ‘locker room presence’.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Great interview with DSOD!! I watched the second one and he’s adorable!

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by JLS89 on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

According to the Flyers twitter feed, today is Holmgren’s birthday.

Sarauj, Latvija!

by LVHokejs on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Someone send him a calculator as a present.

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by jello44 on Dec 2, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, he turns 56. Or is it 57. Or…..

/s, more often than not

by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Did we sign him to a 35+ contract, too?

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Also Rich and Ron Sutter.

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by boknows71 on Dec 2, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy birthday Homer!

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by JLS89 on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like Homer is the right age for early onset dementia.

by alaskalovestheflyers on Dec 2, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

“A source close to the situation said he believes ‘99 percent’ that” no one will claim Walker.

We are the one percent!!! We are the one percent!!!

New TV show on Versus:

The Skating Dead
Starring Matt the Walker

/s, more often than not

by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

You could break the legs on a bunch of chickens and he still wouldn’t be able to catch them.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

So did I miss anything yesterday?

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

I made good use of your “Summer’s Ave” logo in the rag on the Rags post.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Right on. I’ll have to check it out!

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

This Pronger virus story is very strange. Is “virus” code for “we have no idea but that freaks people out when we say that”? There are a few comment threads on health websites in which people say they have headaches and nausea for weeks and they go to the doctor and the doctor says it’s a virus but doesn’t have a name for it.

Could it be a leftover from the eye injury? Something that wouldn’t show up on a concussion test?

Has he tried taking migraine meds? Has anyone asked?

/s, more often than not

by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 2, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Reminds me a bit of the Eagles situation with Maclin. I wonder if Pronger was tested for Lyme Disease? Lyme can have some very strange symptoms, and often starts with headaches. Since he says they’ve done a lot of blood tests, I presume this is one of the things they may be testing for.

Sarauj, Latvija!

by LVHokejs on Dec 2, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m rather confident that Ed Snider is furnishing his Captain/All-World Defenseman with the best medical care that money can buy. So I’m going to guess that he has been asked about migraines, lyme disease, and probably even gonorrhea…

by alaskalovestheflyers on Dec 2, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be a reasonable assumption, except that the Flyers record with medical treatment has sometimes centered around a few key principles:

1. First, ignore
2. First, do harm
3. First, misdiagnose

In this case, though, I’m more curious why the questions haven’t been asked of Pronger or the Flyers. “Chris, has the team ruled out migraines?” “Chris, are you going through the change?” “Chris, are you hoping for a boy or a girl?” When reporters get mealy-mouthed or vague answers (“um, blood work..” “some kind of virus.”) they’re supposed to focus their questioning.

/s, more often than not

by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 2, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris, are you going through the change?

Made me laugh out loud! Best comment of the thread!

by alaskalovestheflyers on Dec 2, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually in this case it sounds exactly like what I’ve been dealing with since 2 days before Thanksgiving. The headaches have been the worst part of it.

by j reed on Dec 2, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it wrong that I sort of want Walker to get claimed just so Homer can maybe, possible see the error of his ways?

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing, but he didn’t learn from Randy Jones, so best to just avoid trouble for the team.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 2, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong to want that? No. Wrong to believe it might actually happen? Yes.

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by TNBrando on Dec 2, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I should have known you people wouldn’t answer the headline. Definitely needed a poll.

Damnit, Detweiler.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

NO

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by iJewJitsu on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

YES.

Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!

by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And to clarify, not because I want to see him on the ice – just because having an $850k albatross for next year’s cap would suck serious hind tit.

Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!

by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t really decide. It’s too tough to choose between paying him to play for us, or paying him half to not play for us. Both options cost too much money.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And there we go – one yes, one no, and one maybe. Sounds like Congress is well on their way to another productive session … :)

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m always the indecisive one.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

If you’re wearing your tinfoil hat, you could also say that we don’t have an opinion yet, because Geoff hasn’t told us what to think (if you read the headline again, you could see it as Geoff being undecided what ‘our’ opinion is yet).

Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!

by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see it.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

/drexel’d

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

AS in, ‘engineers don’t learn to speak good english’ drexel’d?

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

As in he’s cleverly denying to see what you see in his headline.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh. Guess I misunderstood. In my mind, ‘Drexel’ does not equal ‘clever’. (And I can say that, being a graduate thereof.) But we all know that Big Brother, in all his sundry forms, denies the attempts to dictate our lives, right??

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The subject (“you”) carries to the subjective action (“decided”) in the second sentence fragment. As in, “I haven’t decided [for you] yet.” So “Do you want X? I haven’t decided yet.” means that I haven’t decided if you want it or not.

Claro?

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. Because although him being claimed would have been funny, I think it screws them more if he gets claimed.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Dec 2, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone out there have any remedies for that feeling that you have a bubble in your ear and you sound like you’re in a tunnel? I fucking hate it. I’ve had it four 5 straight days now. AHH!

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

If you find out, let me know. I think I’ve finally gotten over my sinus infection, but it feels like one of my ears isn’t clear. Starting to piss me off.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunk your head in water (unless you do have an ear infection). The pressure variance usually clears it (and the addition of water dilutes any wax buildup as well – use warm water if possible).

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? I’d probably be more weary of a penguins fan telling me to drown myself but I’m desperate.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If dunking your head makes you weary you have greater problems than a clogged ear. And I am generally wary of people that insist I am a Penguins fan, despite my history here.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh let’s make fun of the kid with the flu cause he spelled something wrong in a joke.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah – if you have the flu you likely are, in fact, weary as well. Pass granted.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

My ENT prescribed me with 50/50 solution of rubbing alcohol and vinegar. I have a lot of ear issues.

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by doubleh on Dec 2, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Rubbing alcohol and vinegar in your ear? Holy cow, sounds painful. Do you just pour it in there and let it stew? I have ear issues as well (the “bubble” sensation Kreider described) and I read somewhere to use hydrogen peroxide, but I’m nervous.

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by LeepinLizardz on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. I’d rather not pour anything in my ear. That wigs me out. No pun intended.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too, but this ringing is driving me nuts.

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by LeepinLizardz on Dec 2, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ringing in your ears sucks, but i dont know anyway to get it to stop.

by Rhayes on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s just a small amount. You don’t pour it in. Two drops max.

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by doubleh on Dec 2, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what, now that you mention that I think I vaguely remember doing this as a kid to get water out of my ears. The warm feeling when it finally clears is very relieving.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Same thing, but my ears are ringing too, and I get headaches off and on. This has been happening for about a week.

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by LeepinLizardz on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hydrogen peroxide is awesome, it goes all bubbly and foamy. and slowly warms up.

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by DLJr on Oct 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT

by 02h32m01s on Dec 2, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Also useful as a rocket propellant, albeit a difficult to store one.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to alarm anyone here, but it could be Meniere’s Disease. A friend of mine has this, as do Mattias Ritola, Kristen Chenoweth, and Alan B. Shepherd.

by mtitanic on Dec 2, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe this is what happened
Aha! I got one! See that? These little buggers are the piranhas of the insect world. The only thing they like better than wood is human flesh.

Really?

You bet.

If you can’t see it, how do you know you got one?

I’m glad I asked that question. They make this horrible high-pitched noise. It’s kinda like a tiny little scream. Can you hear that? Can you hear that? It’s like a tiny little piglet. No? Uh-oh. I seem to have dropped it in your ear.

You what?

That’s all right. We better get that. Can’t let that nest in there. They multiply by masturbation. The only way to get that out is to get as close to the floor as you can. Go on down to the floor. That’s right. They’re drawn to the floorboards. Now shake your head like you’re trying to get water out of your ear.

by Eric T. on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

And squeal like a pig. Hit yourself in the side of the head, try to knock it out. (going from memory here.)

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by JerseyDriver on Dec 2, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, somethin’ like that.

by Eric T. on Dec 2, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

“How was she feeling?”

“She felt fine to me.”

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by JerseyDriver on Dec 2, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

All clear – woo hoo?

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by TNBrando on Dec 2, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

And there was much rejoicing...

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice reference :)

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by LeepinLizardz on Dec 2, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Walker cleared Waivers.

I can't wait to see him play tonight!

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by jello44 on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t get why you wouldn’t want him to clear. The worst case scenario is he get waived and then recalled again and we go through this all over again.

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by Snevik on Dec 2, 2011 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

If the Flyers can’t lose him at half his price now, I doubt there will be any way to get rid of his contract until it expires or if he’s bought out.

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by TNBrando on Dec 2, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Because a) I don’t want to go through this again; b) I don’t want him to take playing time away from Marshall/Bourdon; c) I don’t want him playing; d) I don’t want the Flyers thinking re-entry waivers are a minor risk; and e) I want repercussions for bad decisions.

Surely there are others.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

So it comes down to protecting the Flyers from themselves on personnel decisions. I’m not sure the best way to deal with that is to further handcuff the cap issues.

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by Snevik on Dec 2, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It comes down to me not wanting Walker on the team with the added bonus of negative consequences for bad decisions.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i actually kind of feel like D is already true.

by Rhayes on Dec 2, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh.

Phantoms jerseys for bears outdoor game

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Just my two cents worth: if you swapped out the Phantoms logo for the Flyers’ logo, that would’ve made a sweet Winter Classic jersey.

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by TNBrando on Dec 2, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It looks exactly like the same pattern to me. Just with the colors reversed because we’re the home team in the WC.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

You know the Phantoms will be the home team in the Outdoor Classic right?

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought so, but then was surprised by the white jersey. But I guess that isn’t a hard and fast rule.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I know NHL 12 has AHL home/road opposite of NHL. But don’t know if that’s accurate.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you remember back a month?

Donate to my Movember page, or just make fun of my attempt to grow facial hair.

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by DLJr on Dec 2, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They wore orange the first game and white the second.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s less funny than it could have been. Jerk.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The second was a Saturday, no? Those are their special Saturday night home jerseys.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 2, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

And the Orange are the Phantoms alternate correct. So……

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by DLJr on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You assume I know that despite me saying I don’t know if white is actually their home jersey. How am I to know orange isn’t their away? Or even home?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 2, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I forget how unobservant you are despite being the one that noticed the damage to my car. I gave you too much credit, my bad.

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by DLJr on Dec 2, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I forget how unobservant you are despite being the one that noticed the damage to my car.

Isn’t seeking damages an integral part of a lawyer’s job?

by mtitanic on Dec 2, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point.

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by DLJr on Dec 5, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

With the colors reversed, it looks more unique to me. The orange classic jersey looks too much like their home model.

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by TNBrando on Dec 2, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Copycats.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that a vintage white jersey with actually-white laces? Yikes. They can get away with the white in the logo, IMO, but the laces should’ve either been vintage white as well or black.

I <3 our rookies.

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 2, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Travis!

Let’s get the game thread posted early enough so that a couple of us old timers are awake enough to get a Let’s Go Flyers chant in before it’s eye lid theater.

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by MJDII on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

Old timers? I’m 22 and I doubt ill make it haha

by reaper1221 on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Red Bull gives you wings. I’ve got a can saved for tonight. We had my holiday party last night for work, so I’m already dragging and 10 PM seems impossible without some sort of stimulant.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think perhaps that means we should start it now …

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a bad idea!

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by MJDII on Dec 2, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

OK here goes.

LETS GO … zzzzzz

(too late!)

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 2, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m gonna ask the tough questions since none of you obviously will

Is Pronger Pregnant?!

by reaper1221 on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

If he goes to the University Health Center for his diagnosis, yes. Either that or Mono.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 2, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

After watching the second DSOS interview I’ve concluded that T.J. Hensick is a mental ward escapee.

by mtitanic on Dec 2, 2011 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t understand why there’s any problem choosing between Scarlett and anyone, but that’s just me.

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by JerseyDriver on Dec 2, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions  


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