Tuesday Morning Fly By: Last Night's Lineup Was Really, Really Weird
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Recaps: [BSH] [Daily News] [CSNPhilly] [delcotimes.com] [Inquirer] [Bill Meltzer] [Philly Sports Daily] [The Checking Line]
- It's looking like Claude Giroux will return this week: [In The Room] [delcotimes.com] [CSNPhilly]
- Will there be a Flyers jersey on the William Penn statue above City Hall again? It certainly looks like it: [The 700 Level]
- The Flyers are expecting Ben Holmstrom to fill their void at center: [Frequent Flyers]
- Matt Carle is awesome. Sorry, you need more information. This is about Carle looking forward to the Winter Classic and being awesome with more ice time: [NHL Hot Stove]
- Why you don't want Chris Pronger to retire: [Orange and Black Pack]
- This is the type of writing I miss from major newspapers: 48 hours with Ed Snider during his induction into the US Hockey Hall of Fame: [Daily News]
- Jakub Voracek getting some love: [The Hockey Guys]
- Looking back on the formation of the Legion of Doom: [NHL.com]
- Future Flyers Weekly Report starring Brendan Ranford, Nick Cousins, and Ben Holmstrom: [ Flyers Faithful]
- The ice truck arrived in Philly, starting the process of building an ice rink: [NHL.com]
- Those St. Louis Blues really are impressive: [Backhand Shelf]
- While it is too early for me to say "I told you so", it's not too early for others to say that Jose Theodore has proven them wrong: [The Rat Trick]
- Power rankings based on Fenwick percentages: [Arctic Ice Hockey]
- Power rankings based on Corsi and Fenwick percentages: [Driving Play]
- After those two power rankings, mine - which includes five on five goal ratio and points per game - appear traditional: [SB Nation Philly]
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Just another day at the office.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
mostly.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Everybody probably has a lot to do… I’m only here right now because I’m relaxing between batches of cookies…
Heck, I’ve missed watching the last two games entirely due to holiday craziness. Luckily on Saturday one of our readers (but I don’t think he comments) was kind enough to fill me in on the score during the Bruins game since I didn’t have access to the radio, too bad he didn’t have good news for me.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 20, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
I have a lot to do at work, I wish I got to bake cookies or drive a zamboni to work.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I’m sure tomorrow I’ll spend the whole day crazy busy at work as if someone is holding down a fast-forward button; but today is my day off and the last of these pizzelles have to be in the mail today. I do not want to incur the wrath of my family if they don’t get them.
But I am kinda envious of the whole drive a Zamboni to work thing.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 20, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
same here. Crash course in excel and having to investigate some claims from parents
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 20, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
So I take it you haven't watched Princess Bride 9,000 times....

The is joke is just mostly killed, not all killed.
Forgot about X-Mas insanity. Certified Christmas hater. Oh how hated that fuck Santa. Gone for most of the year then came by, ripped the god damn house in half and then took off again.

Gordon Matta Clark, Splitting. 1974. Site specific installation. Abandoned home sawed in half.
See…no chimney.
asshole.
So I take it you haven’t watched Princess Bride 9,000 times….
I have, but for some reason it didn’t occur to me when I read your comment. Guess I’m still sick, that’s not like me.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Pretty much. I’ve had it in varying degrees since Halloween. Just can’t shake it completely.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Neti pot?
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
I don’t mind it so much. I just forget about it when I’m healthy and, as I said, thought you weren’t supposed to do it when you’re sick.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Be careful about these
Or you will be put on very-LTIR.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Yeah, I posted the same link below. And I’ve been thinking about this comment for a while. I think the saline mix packets are isotonic so that they don’t kill all the cells in your sinus lining, so it might not kill bacteria and/or amoebae either. My understanding is that the neti pot just washes stuff away. And my (apparently incorrect) guidance against doing it while sick is that it could spread an infection around.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yeah, I posted the same link below.
Oops, sorry. Also, I think your analysis is correct.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I’m a bit freaked out about the amoeba thing. Guess I’ll just have to wait and see if the water I used last weekend was contaminated or not.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I’d rather kill the infection with rinses than antibotics. But the ameoba thing, though highly unlikely given the number of cases, is preventable by using distilled water and that’s an easy enough precaution to take.
I’d rather kill the infection with rinses than antibotics.
Same here, now that I know I can use rinses to help get rid of an infection.
And yeah, I’ll just use distilled water (or boil the tap water first) from now on.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Started doing that last weekend. For some reason I thought you shouldn’t do those when you have a sinus infection, or else I would have done it a lot sooner, but when my wife suggested it I could find no evidence to support my claim. It helped tremendously over the weekend, I felt a whole lot better by Sunday. But then the insanely low humidity in my office building knocked me back again yesterday, though not nearly as bad as I felt last week. Hopefully if I keep it up, combined with getting out of the office for 10 days, it’ll do the trick. (Just don’t use tap water…)
Another part of the problem is overuse of decongestants. My doctor gave me one back in the spring to help with allergy-induced sinus headaches, but never said anything about stopping. I’ve learned that they are not intended for long-term use. Stopping those last week has also helped.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I heard about the little beastie in the tap water. That’s some serious shit luck. Are you sure that your not working in a sick building? Before building sciences had really developed and water vapor exchange between the outside and the building’s memebrane was being seriously considered, buildings were over insulated in an attempt to keep energy costs low. Lots of buildings became hermetically sealed petri dishes to culture mold, mildew and germs. I bet that just makes you feel better.
It’s entirely possible, a number of my coworkers have the same problems. We had someone in to do an air quality test and it came back okay, but I don’t believe they tested humidity. It’s really dry in here. If I open my sandwich box at lunchtime, the bread will start to go stale within minutes if I don’t eat it.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
You mean I shouldn’t be taking pseudoephedrine three times a day?
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
I am swamped – as usual – at home and work. Then on top of it I don’t get to catch up with sleep on Sundays because of these stupid holiday things happening.
Bah effing humbug.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Dec 20, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yup. I’ve got basically one day’s worth of work left to do this week before the break, and four days to do it. So you know I’ll be here a lot. :-p
Didn’t get to watch last night’s game, but the next two will be on TV down here, so I’m pretty happy about that. Combined with the 6 consecutive ones (Buffalo through Boston) that were on VS, NHLN or CSN-DC the last couple weeks, that means I’ll get to watch 8 Flyers games this month. That’s fucking incredible.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
The fun has arrived! A tad late, but here none the less. Two more days left of school…its killing me slowly
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Dec 20, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I take offense to the fact that possibly ruining the best player in the game’s career is a better decision than a marketing campaign that was targeted towards younger fans and may have even worked in some markets.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
It’s Puck Daddy. Rational thought takes a back seat to sensationalism and controversy.
Bob.
by The Dark on Dec 20, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just found out my job expects me to work on January 2nd.
Do I take off my first day as an official full-time employee?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions
Yes. You have a prior commitment that day.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Agreed. If you just found out now, that’s really short notice, and unfortunately, you have prior commitments.
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
Eh, that doesn’t really measure up at a job you’re new to
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think so, I’ve seen that happen plenty of times. You can offer to take the day without pay (or in this case, move the start day back by one) because you had pre-existing plans before you knew when the start date would be.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I’ve been working here since last February. It’s just that I’m an official full-time indefinitely employed person on Jan 1.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Then what are you worried about, if that’s the official day? You’re talking about a different day thereafter (if you look at it logically).
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Dec 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s not really a question and I don’t think they care / expect me not to want to watch the game.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
oh well then take off
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Do you care about this job?
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 20, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yes of course. Establish low expectations from the get go so in future they expect less. You will constantly be exceeding expectations from here on.
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
by MJDII on Dec 20, 2011 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
...
I wonder what Bryz is thinking about when the shooter is approaching during a shootout.

"That was a lot of fun. We don't go to jail, we beat up their chicken forwards, we score ten goals, and we win. And now the Moose drinks beer." -Andre "Moose" Dupont
Carl Sagan
"The characters in this picture are all fictitious. Anyone resembling them is better off dead"
Karate' Jerry..... Karate'
Semper Fi...
by lcd24 on Dec 20, 2011 11:23 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Billions and billions of shots on net.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Is this a reference to Symphony of Science?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like I’m now an accessory to joke suicide, but I’m actually more referring to this (which is itself an homage to Sagan).
/However, I’m sure that Bryz has that Symphony of Science on his iphone in constant repeat
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Just what do you think you’re doing, j reed?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 20, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
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Did everyone see the video showing the mask that Bryzgalov is going to wear in for the Winter Classic? So freaken awesome!
Opposing Ilya Bryzgalov as Philadelphia Flyers' goalie since June 23, 2011.
@Mitchman88 on Twitter
by Mitchell Green on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions
He nailed it!
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Dec 20, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone know when Schenn is supposed to be back?
by youtastelikeaburger on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 AM EST reply actions
Not at all, eager to have a young talented center back in the lineup.
by youtastelikeaburger on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I enjoyed the Carle interview and his comments about 24/7. I think that every sport should do a 24/7 type documentary so that the fans understand the daily grind of the season, mentally, physically and emotionally. I also enjoy seeing the players more on a “human” level… but maybe that’s just my “purist” fan in me.
Also, I think I saw a link to Bernie Parent’s mask for the Winter Classic. If it’s true, I’ll post it.
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How great would it be if they followed just Bryz? Just think of the possibilities.
"The characters in this picture are all fictitious. Anyone resembling them is better off dead"
Karate' Jerry..... Karate'
Semper Fi...
by lcd24 on Dec 20, 2011 11:28 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Both videos are on Puck Daddy. Bernie’s masks are just for charity,a nd warmups. He will wear his original mask for the game.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
That’s right, I do remember my dad telling me he’d wear the original (Cup-winning!) mask in the game.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Bernie Parent is your dad?
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Dec 20, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Bernie's Mask for the Alumni game
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions
Oh what a fucking tease. They don’t even show the finished product!!!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
NHL Guardians
My god that guardians project is a such a epic fail.
WORST IDEA EVER.

Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
It’s looking like Claude Giroux will return this week
Great news? Or greatest news?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Tempered excitement, please don’t let him get Crosby’d.
by hebrew hammer on Dec 20, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
But I can’t wait to see him play again. Just hope he’s ready.
by hebrew hammer on Dec 20, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Droid users rejoice!!!
THE SBNATION APP IS HERE!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions
It is sweet. On it right now.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 12:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Just downloaded and lovin it. Nice christmas gift for the lowly droid users
by srv1084 on Dec 20, 2011 12:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
CBA Help
Cap hits aren’t pro-rated, correct? From the day the contract is signed until it runs out is going to be the same cap hit?
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Dec 20, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions
Help!

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Well… yes. But the cap is calculated daily, so the “cap hit” everyone talks about is only the cap hit should they spend every single day on an NHL roster.
So if you look here, you’ll see that Kris Versteeg’s cap hit is $3.08 million, but he was only on the Flyers for 56 days. Each day he was on the team, he cost them ($3.08 million/186 days in season), but at the end of the year, the Flyers only charged $928k to their cap for Versteeg.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it doesn’t change, because it’s the total dollar amount the contract is worth (salary + bonuses) divided by the number of years. See Geoff’s reply above for explaining the daily calculation of the cap, since that’s relevant when a player is acquired midseason.
For a player with bonuses, those are averaged as well. No matter which bonuses are available in a given year and which ones have or have not been earned in previous years, on Day 1 of each season the cap hit is always the same. Unattainable bonuses for that season only get deducted when they become impossible, but on Day 1 of the following season the cap hit goes back up to the original averaged amount.
The only time it gets ‘adjusted’ is when a player on an ELC slides because they spent the year in juniors, because the first year of their signing bonus doesn’t shift with the rest of the contract. But once that slide rule adjustment is made, the cap hit doesn’t change again once actually they start playing out the ELC.
Is there a specific situation that made you ask, or did we cover it?
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 20, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
You guys covered it way beyond what my thoughts were so thanks for that. The reason I ask is mostly for “What if” scenarios with trades. For instance, if we were to acquire a contract that wasn’t expiring at the end of this season, would we be charged the remaining cap hit or the total from when that contract was first signed? I was 99% sure that the cap hit never changes (putting aside bonuses and what not) but just wanted to be sure.
Where would I be without BSH?
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Dec 20, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
if we were to acquire a contract that wasn’t expiring at the end of this season, would we be charged the remaining cap hit or the total from when that contract was first signed?
The cap hit doesn’t change, but the Flyers are only charged the remaining amount against their cap. Kris Versteeg’s contract is still the best example. When they acquired him last year, they still had to pay his $3.08 million cap hit, but because they acquired him mid-season, he cost them $928k against the cap. This year, the Panthers are paying him $3.08 million against the cap, assuming he’s on their roster every day this season.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
so if the flyers aquire weber at the deadline? whats his pro rated cap hit?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
They will still need to find $40,541 per day to pay the guy, and right now they only have $12,536.
They’d need to lose $28,005 of daily spending to afford him, which won’t be easy to do at all. So while the Flyers would only have Weber count as ~$2 million on the year end total, he’ll still count as “$7.5 million” every day he’s on the roster.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor
by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
It’s his daily cap hit multiplied by the 40ish days left in the regular season, depending on how long before the deadline he’s acquired. But the thing is, we have no banked cap space. So we have to fit the full amount of his daily cap hit in every day that he would be here; so when you try to see if he can fit, it’s roughly the same as looking at the regular capgeek roster and pretending we have to fit him in for the whole year. It doesn’t matter that we say “Oh well we only have to fit him for 40 days”, because we have to fit the rest of our roster for the same 40 days, and we’ll have already spent every penny we have available on each of the days leading up to trade the deadline.
I hope that made at least a little sense.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 20, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
yes what your saying is its nearly impossible to sign weber without dropping a briere esque contract
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
YOU FINALLY GET IT.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Perhaps I should have bolded, not shouted. Sorry.
But note that all the big contracts have NTC or NMCs. Please forget getting Weber.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Recall that LTIR only allows overages, it doesn’t bank cap space
/acting as DG’s acolyte
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Slide rule
I’m sure you’ve written this somewhere, but if you would be so willing: Can the slide rule be applied more than once on a player? Or perhaps I should ask, can it be applied two years in a row on a player?
That’s a really good question. I thought I knew the answer, but I don’t want to tell you the wrong information.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
It can be applied twice if the player is young enough to have 2 more years of junior eligibility when they sign the ELC. A lot of the time a player will be drafted at 18 but not signed right away, so when they finally have the contract they only have 1 year of junior eligibility left.
But for example, the Flyers slid Tyler Hostetter twice.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 20, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I am very bored today.
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I am having one of those days where I am thinking how I want to do a bunch of stuff after I graduate but before I settle down with a full time job.
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Do it!! As my friends keep telling me “you’re young so you can move for jobs or just for fun.” I’ve enjoyed my last 4 months of living in a new place!
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Thank you. :)
This may seem stupid to some, but I really want to apply for Survivor. Unfortunately, applications are due in January with them contacting me in February. So unfortunately, it will have to wait because I can’t take a break from student teaching. But after student teaching, I will receive my degree and the very next window that CBS makes available, I will submit an application and hope for the best. I can wait to go job hunting. And if I get on, the publicity can only help, right? ;-)
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You’re welcome!
That doesn’t sound stupid to me… A few of my friends have auditioned for reality shows and I mean, however you get your foot in the door is all that matters :) Not to sound creepy, but if you want to talk more or want advice and not use the fly by, I don’t mind emailing or using facebook to help.
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I spent almost a year after grad school playing poker, partying, and traveling. Probably the best year of my life.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Yeah, after getting my degree I went straight to working. But my wife and I did wait (i.e. are still waiting) on kids so that we could do lots of traveling first. Been to Europe three times, Utah twice, and Alaska. So at least we got that right!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
This
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Ha!
Have you guys heard this? Instead of Moves like Jagr it’s…
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2GBfyWqy3Hk&h=IAQGzncAcAQFhIjlzfocPcxvn0lkrbMT0GT-jEHcG8kf4sg&p=712428821&t=3&cb=8&v=tli_fsh" >This is a way better done version of “Moves Like Jagr” To counterbalance Pittsburgh’s boo hoo’ing.
The Flyers are 2011 Atlantic Division Champs, the Phillies just keep winning pennant after pennant. Great time to be a fan of those two teams on Broad Street.
Here’s a link that will actually work!
The Flyers are 2011 Atlantic Division Champs, the Phillies just keep winning pennant after pennant. Great time to be a fan of those two teams on Broad Street.
Geoff is a dick and refuses to post this so here's an awesome link he didn't include.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
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Neil Little’s were cooler:

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor
by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Neil Little is not Brian Boucher.
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These pads were hideous, but this picture is iconic to me, so I’ll always love it. The Phantoms mask helps.

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Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, when I went to adjust the width of the image, it posted. No idea how I did that.
Apologies. At least I got the title in before hand.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Even through the mask, Geoff just gets lost in his eyes.
by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 20, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
This is true. But I think a lot of people will agree that the Phantoms logo looks cooler than the Jets. The question is whether the NHL v. AHL difference tips the scales.
For me, it doesn’t.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn’t as true to the Phantoms colors though.
The Jets one is pretty cool, and might be a game changer in goalie fashions for years to come.
by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
This is true.
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Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
He’s trolling me because I told him he’s a dick for not posting it in the Fly-By.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Also, speaking of trolling, for fun and to procrastinate I just went back and read the SBN: PHilly article where in the comments I get called a faggot who draws horrible, humorless cartoons.
Ahhhh good times.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing like going back to read glowing reviews from some of your biggest fans, eh?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yeah. Evertime i read that though I open the sticky with compliments from DSOD and JVR.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah it was last year. Jeff wrote an article about Richards being not used to his strengths.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, Cry-der, I’m trolling you. This isn’t something I posted on Backhand Shelf yesterday, this is me trolling you.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 20, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not trolling. This is hardly the first time this has been done, and I don’t think it’s the best either.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Forgive me for thinking that Geoff was just giving me shit. It never happens.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
You’re so vain, you probably think his lack of links is about you.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
by hintzy64 on Dec 20, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Don’t you?
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
Meh
You had me several years ago…when I was still quite naïve.
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
And that Bryz would never leave.
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
No I was talking to him so I figured he just came on and wanted to mess with me.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know, you kind of tried to troll him IMO. If anything I think you owe Geoff an apology. ;)
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
He didn’t post my link because he didn’t want to post the not SBN version, so I clipped the SBN version then said he wouldn’t post it tomorrow so I posted it in the comments. I simply tried to make his life easier but no he had to be an ass about it so I did it myself.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
We all are.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I know, but now I’m starting to feel bad as it’s snowballing on him.
I assume Geoff is somewhere laughing uncontrollably.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Whatever. I don’t care. I just don’t want to be at work anymore. Like at all. I just want to play hockey and find a job in the Philly area. That’s really all I want right now….well that and a nap.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 20, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still mad at Geoff for leaving the area. There goes my shitty Friday golf partner.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I’m wondering if “shitty” in this case describes “Friday”, “Friday golf”, or the “golf partner”. So many interpretations!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
And if it means terrible, cheap, or coated in shit!
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
Also, if you’re bored, go on Brian’s website and check out their gallery of custom pads.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Oh. Fuck. Yes.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I was going to post those just for you but I didn’t feel like resizing the image haha.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
You know me so well!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
And I found their owner...


I kind of want that white jersey… (that’s obviously not the best pic of it)
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
They have some really excellent/obnoxious pads.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Those are amazing. I would wear them in a heartbeat.
by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 20, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
My retina’s just twitched. Need blast shield for eyes.
I kid. They’re not that bad but Mason’s are in another league.
Look here and here, there are far better pads than Mason’s. Or check out any of Felix the Cat’s pads or Burke’s pads from the Whalers. Mason’s are hardly excellent or in a league of their own, they’re just newer.
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Definition: Bad-assery on skates
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