Wednesday Morning Fly By: Short and Concise
by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 28, 2011 6:00 AM EST
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Recaps: [Inquirer] [Philly Sports Daily] [Flyers Faithful] [The Checking Line]
- Ilya Bryzgalov took the blame: [Broad Street Bull]
- James van Riemsdyk is being bothered by his hip: [Daily News]
- Could the Flyers be interested in Tim Gleason? [Frequent Flyers]
- Peter Laviolette and Steve Ott are going unpunished: [Puck Daddy]
- Niko Hovinen stopped 17 of 20 shots in a 3-0 loss: [euroflyers]
- Looking over the menu on store for the Winter Classic: [NHL.com]
- Five things wrong with the Winter Classic: [Flyers Faithful]
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Anyone else getting tired of outplaying the other team and still losing? Seems like it happens way more to us than any other team, and way more than it should.
I go Bananas for Wayne Simmonds.
see, I’ve always had a problem with this. The only way you truly outplay a team is to outscore them
if they have more goals than you, regardless of puck control, you were outplayed
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
I would say Tampa was more opportunistic with their chances than the flyers were. I can’t honestly say the Tampa out worked them, the third period was a disgrace they were completely content with icing the puck when the flyers turned up the heat.
-bob
by Rrainone on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Flyers couldn’t win a faceoff
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
I would say Tampa was more opportunistic with their chances than the flyers were. I can’t honestly say the Tampa out worked them, the third period was a disgrace they were completely content with icing the puck when the flyers turned up the heat.
-bob
by Rrainone on Dec 28, 2011 8:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t agree with this, really. There’s a HUGE amount of luck involved in hockey.
by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 28, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Just like in baseball.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
It’s pretty obvious what Tampa did last night. They sat back, collapsed on net, and won faceoffs. They weren’t getting weird deflections (save for one of those goals where it goes off of a skate, then the boards, right to a TB player)
What I have a problem with is that a) it was pretty noticeable and b) the Flyers didn’t do anything about it
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
No way. Philly dominated good portions of that game. TBL can thank Garon and a big heaping pile of luck that the Flyers didn’t put that game on ice in the first.
Shit happens.
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Shit happens in Colorado, Boston, NYR and TB?
Color me a tad bit worried
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
It’s common enough with every team I’d think. Esp. with all the parity in league. That’s why they play 82 games, to average that stuff out. Random variation is what makes these sports so compelling and yet people develop all these mythologies to explain it away. Where do these mythologies come from? My guess is they are narratives borrowed from other sports (in particular boxing), sports inwhich random variation has all but negilible effects, such that, what some of what advanced metrics deems intangibles like psychological states, can be the difference maker between 2 equally skilled opponents . On any given day the worst sprinter in the world doesn’t beat Usian Bolt unless he trips, is injured or sick and these are not conditions or scenarios intrinsic to the actual game play. But on any given day the worst hockey, football or baseball team can beat the best team, it happens all the time. There are no bounces or opponents to try to thwart your efforts in individual sports like track and field or swimming. These aren’t sports inwhich balls, or objects, if involved, are propelled with another object or the body or thrown with any accuracy (javelin, discus, shot put, hammer throw are thrown for distance). Any sport where a ball, a ball and stick or racket is required means some degree of random variation will have an effect on outcome of the game. Of these tennis invovles the least amount of luck, and perhaps baseball the most. That doesn’t necessarily mean one sport requires more skill because of the degree of luck involved to produce an outcome which is where I think people stumble when the issue of luck arises. It takes alot of athletic skill to hit a 90 mph baseball but the outcome (base hit) is more luck dependent. One involves the direct relation to actual athletic attributes (bat speed, hand eye coordination), the other involves parameters set by the game like getting the ball past 7 defenders spread across the field. In a sport like running the athletic attribute, the skill, is really the game parameter more or less. Here an outcome has a direct correspondence with the skill so the athlete that “outplays” or “out runs” the other wins. It’s also why these types of sports are not true spectator sports. It’s that constantly changing stimulus and adaptation that makes adversarial sports so dramatic and entertaining. And outside of tennis and combat sports your going to get alot more random variation in the other adversarial sports which are team sports.
It’s a double edged sword, the very thing that makes it’s so entertaining makes it so maddening.
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by j reed on Dec 29, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This is a truly awesome post that I suspect will get buried in the midst of all the new threads.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
you said it.
It would be cool to have a comment highlights section. NYT does it with their posts. You can organize by rec’s or by highlights chosen by the editors. I imagine the blog software infrastructure here doesn’t allow for that, but it would be cool to be able to look at the “best” comments from across a number of posts over, say, a week. More work for the masthead though.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 29, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Gleason
Wouldn’t we have to take his full cap hit? Because we are using injured reserve space. That meaning his cap hit wouldn’t be pro rated for the rest of the season.
-bob
by Rrainone on Dec 28, 2011 7:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The Flyers would only end up paying him actual cash for the portion of his yearly salary he is still owed, but his full cap hit would count towards the cap on a daily basis. His daily cap hit ($14,865) would need to fit under the Flyers’ daily cap of $339,986, and their maximum LTIR spending of $41,969, which brings the total daily limit to $381,955. Currently the Flyers are spending $368,840 which only leaves $13,115 dollars per day in possible spending. If, and a big if with our FO, space had been left where the Flyers were not spending to the cap, plus into the LTIR exemption, then any amount short of the daily cap could have been “banked” for future use.
His cap hit is pro-rated in the sense that, of his yearly “cap” dollars, only about $1.5M will end up counting towards our cap. On the other hand, his cap hit isn’t pro-rated in the sense that you can look at the entire team’s yearly cap hits, add up all the active players, and put in any number other than $2.75M (the full cap hit) for him while trying to remain under the upper limit ($64.3 – $1.4 (bonus penalty)). Basically, since the Flyers have a neglible amount of cap space banked ($529), due to using LTIR all season, they can treat every day like it is the first day of the season and swap yearly cap hits for equals.
Long story short, Flyers could easily fit him, without trading anyone away, as long as they waive Matt Walker or Gus and Bourdon.
by hebrew hammer on Dec 28, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
It’s funny, those days of smiles and grins seem like so long ago
We’re seeing those goals from a guy like Read dry up, along with the rest of the scoring
it’s time to right the ship so to speak
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 8:04 AM EST reply actions
I wonder how many people are going to have some form of surgery after the Winter Classic. JVR has the hip issue and Read is playing through a shoulder issue.
http://articles.philly.com/2011-12-27/sports/30561835_1_van-riemsdyk-shoulder-injury-brayden-schenn
I’m certain there are others.
I’m starting to feel, as I think you do CCB, like some things need to be shaken up. Maybe Schenn centering Briere and Simmonds… any thoughts on changing things up?
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by A Flyers Phamily on Dec 28, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Bring in a defensive center who can play on the wing and win faceoffs. Without a good faceoffs guy, you’ll get yata-locked
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Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Read is either hurt or he has already “hit the wall”. Based on his amazing amount of serious chances, he would have had 4 goals last night if he were playing like he was in November.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Anyone else think that there have been more games this year that our defense has lost than our starting goaltender, or have we all jumped on the Burn Bryzgalov Bandwagon?
No, he’s not playing well. Yes, I wish we had kept Bobrovsky as the starter and spent money elsewhere. But Bryzgalov’s play is to me either third or fourth in the list behind a.) inconsistent team defense b.) injuries c.) roster turnover (50-60% from last year, on most nights).
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 28, 2011 9:15 AM EST reply actions
I'd put it a little higher
No doubt defensively we could play better in front of him and the rash of injuries have not helped but…..
GAA 3.01 , sv% .890 for someone getting paid to be a number 1 it is time to tend goal like a number1. Halak has better numbers yet he has been benched in favor of Elliot. Maybe we do the same, not saying all season but give Bob 4 or 5 games in a row to see what happens and let Bryz sit. He has not won since Dec 13th and gave up 5 on 16 shots
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by Crosby sucks on Dec 28, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
I like the idea of playing Bobrovsky more. I think the idea of playing Bryzgalov because we spent the money on him is a mistake, a kind of day-to-day version of giving in to sunk costs. Laviolette needs to put a winning team on the ice. Managing goaltender confidence is part of his job but you can only do so much with another person’s head. Goalies know the deal.
We have the guy for eight more years – if he ends up being the backup this year it doesn’t mean next year will be the same and it increases the return we can get for Bobrovsky in a trade (or Bryzgalov, if a GM with deep pockets, starry eyes and a goalie problem is willing to bite). Let everyone else scream about the wasted money in the meantime. If the team stabilizes with Bobrovsky in net that’s all they’ll care about in the locker room.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 28, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone else think that there have been more games this year that our defense has lost than our starting goaltender, or have we all jumped on the Burn Bryzgalov Bandwagon?
I thought that yesterday’s loss was maybe the third or so this season where bad goaltending was the primary reason for the loss. Third out of 14 losses. Could be a lot worse. So yeah, I agree in that regard.
The solar system is so humongous big.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 28, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I disliked Bryz before it was cool.
/hipster’d
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I take that back, disliked is too strong of a word. I didn’t trust that he’d come in and be “our savior” though, never did, even in games when he was playing better. At the beginning of the season, people were talking about feeling calmer and more confident in the team when he was in net, less nervous that the puck would go in anytime the play was in our end, and I just never bought into that. Sorry, Bryz, I want Bob.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I love’d Bryz in Phoenix, and was always against the big spending to goalies. But even I thought he’d be better then this.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
I also think 24/7 might be hurting him, especially now that he’s famous on it.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
Worse, it's going to his bobblehead
sidenote: A google image search for “bryz(galov) (bobble) gif” returns a LOT of Katy Perry gifs. Wonder why…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Samsies. Spending a boatload of money on a goaltender is bad idea jeans.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
But all of us BSH regulars, and most other people other than Ed Snider, knew this.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
BSHers yes, but I’d say the majority of others wanted a “proven goalie”
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Sigh. You might be right there. Unfortunately, this is like asking for an “honest money center banker in 2008” or maybe an “always ontime SEPTA train”.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
He is right. You still hear it everywhere. The question being posed right now is “is Bryz living up to his humongous big contract?” when it should equally be “when are the Flyers to blame for handing out big contracts when most evidence suggests the player will never live up to same?”
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by doubleh on Dec 28, 2011 1:14 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Worse, that very, very few, if any, goalies CAN live up to same.
This is because of the uniqueness of the position in the post-2004 NHL. I think in 1970 or 1980 you might have had a few elite goalies – Parent, Plante, Dryden, etc.. But in today’s NHL that is not the case. Even Tim Thomas had a stinky year.
Most fans equate the goalie position to NFL QB, where there is remarkable consistency year-to-year of the elite – Brady, Brees, Rodgers, maybe a few others. In fact, goalies really have the consistency of the second tier players – Vick, Rivers, Hasselbeck. There are no real elites.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I’m with you on this one Bud. As much as I love Bob and hope he plays next, I don’t want it to be because Bryz is failing. I ask myself would the final result be any different last night if Bob had been in net and the answer comes back, no. Bob may have had less goals scored against and he would have tried to keep the team in the game. My concern with Bryz is that he is starting to give up too easily, which showed in his demeanor during and after the game.
I go back to the three things I saw wrong with the Flyers when fingers were being pointed Bob’s way last February: stupid penalties, not enough goal scoring and teammates not playing the full game. I saw that team last night.
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
And yes, I'm a female redhead.
Happy Birthday to JpH. Hope it’s a good one.
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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 28, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions
Happy birthdayy!!!
For your present, I have been meaning to post that “My Little Pony” was brought up in conversation the other day with my friends at lunch. I guess there is a revival of the show and of course, all I could think of were the pictures that you post on here and TGP.
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The NHL is really trying to push ARAMARK off as a legitimate food company, maybe it was my cheap ass high school’s food mixed with the expensive stadium food, but I would think they could get a better catering company for the event.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
That food at Roman always looked nasty, so I usually brought my own lunch.
We also have ARAMARK at the hospital where I work for the cafeteria/patient meals. It’s as bad as you’d expect.
This station is non-operational
IT'S TEBOW TIME!
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They had a cart outside across the street that sold good food, but they stopped letting kids leave the grounds for lunch after my soph year.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
That must have been new, the closest cart I remember was about a block away.
No one was ever allowed to leave the grounds, but they did anyway. I remember people sneaking it into class and eating it.
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IT'S TEBOW TIME!
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At Judge it was pretty bad too
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
The problem with mass food production is that you have to leave it a bit bland to get the most use out of a product. You also have to be careful with allergies and, in the case of patients at a rehab hospital where I used to cook, very cognizant of their specific diet.
That said, there are still things you can do for the cafeteria menu that at least makes food bearable, if not good. Yes I fell into this category more often than not, but we had some cooks that were just bad and maybe your hospital had the same problem.
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Maybe I'm Crazy..
But I’d like to see this team go through some adversity right now. Well, maybe not right now with the Classic around the corner but I feel that they could benefit in the long run from some tough times. Not to the extent of the 2010 team where the season came down to the last day, but a stretch that would really test their mettle. I couldn’t care less about the playoff seed this team gets as long as they get in and they obviously are a playoff caliber team.
Of course, none of that will matter if Bryz doesn’t play like everybody knows he can. Where the cool, calm, and collected goalie that started this year in Boston and New Jersey went is anyone’s guess but he needs to come back. He must be back in the damn woods again.
Any further intelligence on what happened between Malone and Hartnell?
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Simmonds fight
After watching it about ten times now due to its awesomeness, Simmer is pretty woozey after it ends. Clearly not as bad as Brewer, who had no business being back on the ice, but still woozey none the less. Watching it live I thought Simmonds just tripped over Brewer when it was over but he clearly lost his balance and even does it again on his way to the box. Not saying he’s concussed, but definately gives some pause on wanting a guy like Simmonds fighting when we are also depending on him scoring us goals.
Also, beatig my own dead horse, but Matt Carle really F’n blows. We have Kimmo and Mez as offensive D guys, and at least Kimmo can play D and Mez can hit. Carle is a one trick pony and is seiously one of the main reasons our D sucks this year.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
Matt Carle is better at offense than those two guys.
But really, it’s the “Mez can hit” that really makes your comment gold star worthy.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 28, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Geoff, I have always been a Matt Carle defender. I like the article you did that put to bed the “he is only good with Pronger” argument but now I wonder if he has kept up that same pace of good play since that article came out. Thoughts?
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Dec 28, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Facing second pair competition with third pair teammates (he’s with Marc-Andre Bourdon now…) and getting 53% OZone starts, he’s got the second best Corsi Rel at 7.7, behind Pronger at 9.4. He drives the play forward better than any of our defenders. He’s only been with Prongs for 13 of the 30+ we’ve played. Take those numbers for what they’re worth, but he did lead the NHL in even strenghth assists from blueliners last year…
by OrangeNblacK on Dec 28, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Since Pronger’s last game – in Winnipeg – here are Carle’s numbers with the score close:
Goals: 10-9 (Team 20-20)
Shot%: 57.6% (Team 53.6%)
Fen%: 58% (Team 52.9%)
Corsi%: 54.9% (Team 53.7%)
During this time, he’s had worse goaltending (0.852) than the team has received (0.888) but better shooting (12%) than the team has done (9.7%).
None of that factors in usage – ice time, competition, teammates, or zone start – but it shows that the Flyers spend more time in the opponents zone when he’s on the ice than the Flyers do when Carle is on the bench.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 28, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I hate weak Dmen. Carle doesn’t clear the net and is out of position all the time. I wanna know what you see in him that you like?
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
Facing second pair competition with third pair teammates (he’s with Marc-Andre Bourdon now…) and getting 53% OZone starts, he’s got the second best Corsi Rel at 7.7, behind Pronger at 9.4. He drives the play forward better than any of our defenders. He’s only been with Prongs for 13 of the 30+ we’ve played. Take those numbers for what they’re worth, but he did lead the NHL in even strenghth assists from blueliners last year…
by OrangeNblacK on Dec 28, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
What I like about Matt Carle:
He leads the d-men in ice time per game.
He leads the d-men in points per 60 mins.
He ends his shift in the OZ more often than he starts there, the only top-4 d-man who can say that.
He leads the d-men in CorsiRel.
So he plays a lot, he scores a lot, he pushes play forwards, and the Flyers play best when he is on the ice.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 28, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nicely done, Geoff.
#resignmattcarle
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by Mitchell Green on Dec 28, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
But the Flyers suck
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 28, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Carle is inconsistent. But Meszaros is far worse. In the NYR game, he was directly responsible for two goals while scoring one. I can go without the scoring on your part if you stop people from scoring.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Warning: I think there’s an autoplay on the Frequent Flyers link, cause I heard an ad, but didn’t see the video.
Also, the 5 things wrong with the Winter Classic are depressing… the writer sounds bitter against it. I understand that the event isn’t perfect, but that’s par for the course for a “showcase” event. I didn’t understand what he was trying to say about the BCS bowls as competition for the Winter Classic for ratings. The bowl games were moved from Jan 1 to the 2nd because of the NFL (from my understanding)… so the games are still in direct competition with the Winter Classic.
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Dude’s definitely a cynic. They don’t use football stadia not just because they want to jack up prices, but because of the logistical nightmare of having ice up for one week. Where should the Eagles play, pray tell (and WGAS that they had a bad season? They started planning this 6 or 7 months ago)? Also, they like to host other events during the “festival,” which you couldn’t do in a football stadium. He’s got a point with the neutral site, but who the hell is going to want to travel to Green Bay and see the Flyers and Rangers play?
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he raised a few valid points, but on the whole, it was a pretty poor article
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Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I hope Snider is learning a valuable lesson, but I doubt it.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
don’t put twinkies on your pizza?
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, he is. Bryz is not enough of an objectivist.
/Snider’d
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Bryzgalov...
… is looking more and more like Nik Khabibulin the year he signed his big deal with Chicago.
There’s a lot to like about the guy, but at the end of the day, you don’t expect your $51M investment to get embarrassed by the likes of Mathieu Garon. Most troubling is how he publicly criticizes his defense (explains the Derek Morris hate), reportedly doesn’t care to study shooter tendencies (painfully obvious in the shootout), and hasn’t shown the ability to really read developing plays at an elite level (looks helpless on backdoor plays and quick-passing plays).
doesn’t care to study shooter tendencies
How can you justify that claim?
by OrangeNblacK on Dec 28, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Courtesy of NFG on HB: In 14 games Flyers won with Bryz he has 1.95 GAA, .932 SV%. In 12 games he’s lost or been pulled, 4.42 GAA, .828 SV%
When he’s good, he’s good but when he’s bad, he’s very bad.
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by Mitchell Green on Dec 28, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions
to be fair: when he’s good, he’s very good*
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Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Right, but according to his contract, he is supposed to be that good all the time. Oh wait…
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by Mitchell Green on Dec 28, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
hrmph
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully, that is what Snider is going to be saying. If this continues the rest of the year (or even the Jekyll/Hyde performance continues) I want Snider to “man up” and let Homer waive Bryzgalov, or at least buy him out if the new CBA allows this.
I can stand Prongs on LTIR for 5 years. Unless someone invents an injury to Bryz, the Flyers are totally hamstrung by this contract.
/If you think this contract might work itself out over a few years, and you are a baseball fan, may I introduce you to Vernon Wells
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Vernon Wells. hahaha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 28, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Can the flyers buy out bryz contract b4 or after the new cba with out it counting against the cap, while using the (hopefully) one time buy out in the offseason for pronger?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
by reaper1221 on Dec 28, 2011 2:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How about we give him a full season or so before we decide he’s a total bust?
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Wasn’t asking them to do it but like say 3 years from now he still has sub .900 numbers, can we buy him out then without it counting against the cap…sorry my thoughts don’t neccesarily make it to paper how I want them to.
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
by reaper1221 on Dec 28, 2011 2:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We don’t know what we’ll be able to do after the new CBA. As things stands: http://capgeek.com/buyout_calculator.php?player_id=1141&buyout_y=2012&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
From Pierre LeBrun of ESPN...
ESPN Yr In Review: Am told an updated segment will run Dec. 29 and Jan. 2 on certain SportsCenters to include hockey figures we lost in 2011
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates
So, basically it’ll air on the early morning sports center.
They took me out of Philly and sent me to Indy.
Max Talbot- My favorite French-Canadian
yes, on ESPN Nunavut.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 28, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
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