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Leino deserves a suspension for that elbow to Read’s head. I have gone from really liking Leino, to accepting that he’s not that good, to laughing at Buffalo, to laughing at Buffalo, to not really liking Leino.

Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

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by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 AM EST reply actions  

Even the crazy stickhandling plays that used to amaze me when Leino wore orange and black now simply reassure me that letting him walk was the right thing to do – dude is a one-dimensional puck hog. A very good one-dimensional puck hog, but just that. I’ll take Jake any day over him (which is probably the way that deal was envisioned in the first place – Voracek replaces Leino in the lineup).

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by TNBrando on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Leino < Zherdev < Voracek

We win.

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by DannyMcG on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Voracek + Couturier > Carter

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by DannyMcG on Dec 8, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I hope you’re right on that one.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

OUch.

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by Pardini36 on Dec 8, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

A couple of serious questions

Is there a threshold for us where we cross over from saying ’we’re a decent team that got a good start to the season’ to ’we’re a good team’?

And similarly is there a threshold where we go from ’Giroux’s performance is unsustainable’ to ’it’s been x number of games this season, and it looks like he’s sustaining it’?

With the second question we often think about a guy’s shooting % and the shooting % of others while he’s on the ice. Giroux’s at an unsustainable 20% shooting % (approximately)…but that just went up even further last night. Similarly, Giroux’s on ice percentage is something around 11% I think (haven’t checked the numbers), which is unsustainable, but that also went up last night (considering he was on ice for 4 goals and the entire team took 34 shots, I think it’s fair to assume the shooting % while Giroux was on the ice was probably around the 20% mark).

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by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 AM EST reply actions  

This feels like a February team this year. If the college guys (and rookies) last through February, I think we’re in business

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

And thats with Pronger out and Briere, Simmonds and JVR been silent contributors (Briere and JVRs points/game is pretty good, but there Corsi’s are crap)

by Anders Jensen on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Outlier seasons are always possible, and it’s not unheard of to end the season at 20%. Vanek was at 19% with over 210 shots, Boyes was at 20.8% with over 200 shots, and Selanne almost hit 19% with over 250 shots, so this stuff can happen for a season. For a career not so much. Giroux is on pace for 246 shots, and could very well end up with a ridiculous shooting %. That’s who he could be for this year, outliers happen; now to say that’s who he is for his career, that’s stretching it.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. I think one likely would see such high percentages from most of the top scorers in the game if you removed the data from that player’s first and last 100 games in their career.
Now I’m wondering what player recorded the highest shooting% ever in a season, what year, and whereabouts in the course of his career did it occur?

by mtitanic on Dec 8, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

You need to supply a minimum shot qualifier.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Otherwise we might find it’s Ville Leino.

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by iJewJitsu on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Right. I know better than to ask for a small sample size. Go on…….

by mtitanic on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just curious. I have some time to burn and was going to search a little.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Or, in Ovechkin’s case, only look at the first 400 games of his career.

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by Pardini36 on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

he only got 1 goal though lastnight, it’s his tape to tape through impossible lanes passes that give him the edge. sure he’s got a great shot but his passes are ridiculous.

by Jazzy85 on Dec 8, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

This literally has nothing to do with the part of the question I’m addressing.

I think we all agree that Giroux is talented. The question of Giroux’s performance being sustainable is getting at his production; goals and assists. PoL separated it out to Individual Shooting % which is getting at his goals and Team on Ice shooting % which is getting at his assists and points; I addressed the Individual Shooting % portion.

Also, FWIW, Giroux had 3 shots last night, scoring once, improving on his 20% shooting %, so that lonesome goal still improve his shooting %.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a threshold for us where we cross over from saying ’we’re a decent team that got a good start to the season’ to ’we’re a good team’

Silly man – we’re Philly fans. They always either suck, or are the preordained champions, or both simultaneously. This middling ‘decent’ adjective is so … objective and unemotional.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 8, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

My its because im a Flyers fan, but I have seen worse boardings this year they havnt been near a suspension at all (Like Charas hit on Giroux)

by Anders Jensen on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 AM EST reply actions  

Shanahan seems to take it into consideration if there was an injury on the play. I gather the guy is concussed. That will probably be enough for a minor suspension. I don’t think it will be too bad, though. I’ve seen worse hits. But it will make things awkward with Pronger and Lilja gone too.

Side note, Instigator rule remains a steaming pile. To think the Flyers got away from that without a powerplay against.

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by McGonigle on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

If Bourdon gets suspended (well, when), it may not be for long. I think he’ll come clean and admit it was a stupid play he wishes he could take back. It would be his first suspension. I don’t think he meant to do it, but he has to take responsibility for it. Expect two games off. Then what do you do about the defense? Maybe a call to the Latvian sea wolf?

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by TNBrando on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 AM EST reply actions  

Walker, unfortunately

by Derek F on Dec 8, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You could see on the replay after the hit he looked up like “What the fuck did I do? That was dumb.”

I think both he and Leino should get two games. I don’t think there was intent to injure on either play but they should each be suspended to curtail that behavior.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Some reason the Leino play is worse in my book.

by Anders Jensen on Dec 8, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know, that was a pretty standard boarding penalty. If it’s suspendable it pretty much says that boarding is no longer a minor penalty. I guess that’s pretty much the case though.

by mantis toboggan on Dec 8, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

there has to be an emphasis by Shanahan on an indefensible player

IMO, Gerbe wasn’t defenseless

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

If he was defenseless, he put himself in the position on purpose.

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by boknows71 on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Gerbe is against the boards playing the puck. Looks at Bourdon pouring in, and chooses to go back to facing the boards

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I kinda felt that way about it too, but I was watching it on a crappy stream so maybe I didn’t see everything. I wouldn’t say exactly that he turned at the last second, but he did turn into the boards a second or two before the hit.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Not at the last second, no. I felt like he gave Bourdon a chance to change course.

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by boknows71 on Dec 8, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone ask Bourdon what went through his head right after the hit? I’d be curious to know what he thought.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO Bourdon rode Gerbe in the boards as opposed to the shoving him from behind. Gerbe made contact with the glass not the dasher as a result. A pretty standard boarding call. Making flush contact is a lot or acceptable then going head first.

On side note Bourdon and D as a whole looked pretty good in the 2nd and 3rd period lots of clean outs with good outlet passes. The forwards have to stop watching and pick up a man on the backcheck and Brzy needs recover from giving a goal a not become momentarily lost in the woods.

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by chrislanci on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

“Gee, I hope nobody saw that”?

by mtitanic on Dec 8, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that too, so I’m not sure how I feel about this situation. He clearly looked back and saw Bourdon coming, and then turns himself face-first into the boards to take the hit. Boarding penalty? Sure. Suspension? I dunno. I guess we’ll see.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, he clearly saw the hit coming and turned his back to it. Bourdon maybe could have let up, but we should reward divers like Gerbe for intentionally putting themselves in that situation.

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by Pelti on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

He drilled a guy from behind and right into the boards, so he’ll get something for it. Perhaps just a fine to get him on the record as an offender, but I’d imagine it’s a game or two.

Gerbe turned, but he turned to play the puck where it was headed. He didn’t have control of the puck and turn his back to a guy already committed to the hit, or to prevent someone from making a play on him.

As for the instigator, it comes with an automatic 10, which is a pretty tough penalty; after a penalized hit, I don’t think the refs like to dole it out.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the puck was already gone when he turned into the boards, but I may just remember it wrong. I mean, I think Bourdon should have let up a bit or avoided he hit, but I’m just saying Gerbe didn’t do himself any favors turning like that.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Gerbe was already facing the boards and then looked back at Bourdon then got the puck while still facing the boards so really its just a mometary lapse in judgement by Bourdon. He’ll likely the standard 2 games for it tho.

by youtastelikeaburger on Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

See I thought Gerbe was kind of facing diagonal to the boards at first, he could have turned either way, but after he saw Bourdon is when he turned face-first to the boards. As I said, I could be remembering it wrong.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s how I remember it too, meaning that Bourdon could come in and give him a shoulder to shoulder check, but Bourdon still could have slowed a bit as Gerbe turned, I think.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess you could maybe say that was possible. But I think Gerbe was moving in a way to play the puck, not shield himself from a hit. The replay really doesn’t help out Bourdons case either.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Gerbe-boarded-Read-elbowed-to-head-susp?urn=nhl-wp19303

by youtastelikeaburger on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

After watching it again, Gerbe is perpendicular to the boards, in the lead up. I think as Gerbe plays the puck through, he turns into the boards squarely, as a result of playing the puck, and that a split second later Bourdon hits him. Where there is some room for interpretation is that Bourdon is coming from behind him the whole way. If Gerbe stays still and lets the puck go through, then he gets checked from behind onto the ice, or at a diagonal and into the boards sideways, but because he spins a bit to play the puck he ends up with a shoulder in the back. I’m very curious to see what happens with this.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. It all depends on interpretation of the “whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check” part of the rule. That’s why it’s such an interesting hit.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

However, the elbow to Read’s head can’t be viewed as anything other than that. He actually lifted his elbow to get him rather than tucking it in to use his shoulder for the check.

I’ll be amazed if he gets suspended, though. They’ll give Bourdon 2 games and Ville’s hit won’t even be reviewed because Read kept playing rather than doing an academy award winning performance to make sure the refs saw it.

by EC.Comedy on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Leino has a hearing scheduled and Bourdon doesn’t…

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too, I expected both to go for a visit.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Any word on Briere? I know he took that stick to the face early and was on the bench for most of the rest of the game. Just precautionary?

by Derek F on Dec 8, 2011 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

He had been sick the days up to the game and somebody said he didnt fell well

by Anders Jensen on Dec 8, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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Be on the look out for a 5 ft 10 in 170 pound man who goes by the name of Daniel “Danny” Brière. He was last seen in Boston on May 6th, 2011. He is a professional hockey player currently on the Philadelphia Flyers roster but has not been seen in months. His children, teammates and fans are very concerned for his welfare. Any information on his whereabouts please contact Peter Laviolette Head Coach of the Philadelphia Flyers. Peter is desperate for another top center on the team in order to grind Claude Giroux through the ice by February.

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by MJDII on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

He was last seen on November 23rd in Long Island, New York.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Really?

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by MJDII on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

He scored the game tying goal and the OT game winner. Yes. Really.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Briere had 68 points in 77 games last year. This year he is on a pace to get 64 points in 77 games. I’m pretty sure this is without the benefit of having two steady linemates like he did most of last year. I’m not saying he’s playing great, but somebody wearing #48 is picking up these points if it’s not Briere.

Also, if Briere isn’t playing at the top of his game that doesn’t mean Laviolette has to play Giroux 22 minutes a game. #14 is available for more quality minutes. Briere isn’t responsible for Laviolette’s player management, and he’s fourth on the team in scoring. Not an invisible man.

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by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 8, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Jody Shelly and Derek Boogaard......

After reading the 3 part series and watching the 3 part video’s on Derek Boogaard, I would like to offer my apologies for anything I might have said in the past against Jody Shelly and any other enforcer in hockey.

If he has even gone through half of what Derek has I believe he deserves my admiration and respect.

Enforcers are by far the grunt’s of the hockey world and respectfully I tip my hat and pound my stick on the boards for all of them.

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by LegionofDoom on Dec 8, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Even if you are not a fan of fighting in the sport you have acknowledge it’s place in the game and guys who take on the jobs to be fighters.

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by MJDII on Dec 8, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I still don’t think enforcers are necessary. I’m not saying take fighting out, I’m saying take out encouraging the careers of players who are only there to punch and be punched, as Derek was groomed to be.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, this is where I’ve gotten to as well. I don’t think you can completely eliminate fights like the one Bourdon was in last night, but there is no need for a dedicated enforcer.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The game is definitely passing by the enforcers. There is still a mentality in the league for enforcers, but it is starting to dwindle especially with the cap. This is all intelligent conversation and debating points. I think I just get my back up when people disrespect these guys, hold them to expectations they are not capable of and not expected to accomplish and downplay the effect enforcers have on teams. I would believe to a man players like having a heavyweight on their team. I mean look at the Sabres last night, they called up three monsters, one is a legitimate future player and the other two were there so the big bad Flyers didn’t push them around.

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by MJDII on Dec 8, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t mind criticism about not dressing an enforcer, or complaining about his contract because that’s criticism that can be applied to anyone for the most part. The stupid shots people take are just that, stupid, so I ignore them. Those people typically make stupid comments about every other player as well, so again, it’s not like it’s just about an enforcer, just about a lack of intelligence from the poster.

The two big Dmen I don’t see as being out there just to be out there for protection, I think they both can be players at some point. And Kassian can be if he is the other one you are referring to there. I need to pull up the ice time chart and check to see how they were used.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay Finley was definitely sheltered, so maybe 1/3 were there for that purpose.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Flyers better beat the scum today >:(

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by Legion of Bullies on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

hartnell leads team with +14

while we all know the questionable validity of +/- as a statistic… but the next closest flyer is kimmo at +10 and the next closest forward is read at +9…

does this indicate:
1. hartnell has significantly improved his 2-way game?
2. playing on briere’s line begins with a -30 handicap?
3. scott has knows how to swiftly skate to the bench once play heads out of the offensive zone?

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by edesjardins37 on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

Or the teams on ice shooting percentage is trough the rough with him on the ice (including his own)?

by Anders Jensen on Dec 8, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

“Dammit, they’re gonna score, I’d better get my ass to the bench quick!”

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

"Dammit, they’re gonna score, I’d better get up off the ice and skate my ass to the bench quick!"

Fixed.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 8, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Lindy Ruff on Bourdon's boarding penalty:
“Do you think it should be a major?”

“I think so, i definitely think so. There was no turning, there was just a hit from behind and head first into the glass.

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by DannyMcG on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

His head never hit the glass at any point.

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by MJDII on Dec 8, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

This kinda makes me want to create an animated gif of Gerbe turning so Ruff can watch it over and over again.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

If you make a gif of Lindy Ruff upset and his face suddenly turns into the crying Dawson face i’ll love you forever.

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by DannyMcG on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Ooh, I like it. Hmm.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

when i was skimming i saw “create an animated gif..turning..ruff..watch it over and over again.” and thought that’s where it was going hahaha

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by coheedandtbs on Dec 8, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t stand Lindsey.

by Ben16 on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahahaha, +1

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

She really bothers me for some reason.

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by doubleh on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had to guess, I’d bet it has something to do with her face. Then again, most women don’t understand why men think Sarah Jessica Parker is a hideous troll, so who knows?

by EC.Comedy on Dec 8, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say hideous.

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by EREX21 on Dec 8, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Does your job offer a vision plan??

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 8, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, don’t get me wrong, I find her to be very unattractive but I reserve hideous for people like Lady Gaga.

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by EREX21 on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Because I didn't want to date myself with a Ruth Buzzi reference

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by boknows71 on Dec 8, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, Gaga has her moments when she’s pretty. Check out the Bad Romance video, and in the shots where she’s not made up like Marilyn Manson she’s not half bad.

But SJP is positively awful. I’d rather look at a guy.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Her backside is pretty darn nice too, which helps.

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by DLJr on Dec 9, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I think SJP is hideous, too, and I know so many men who just say “she’s got a hot body, who cares?” Me, as a woman? I gotta like the whole package. A bag over the head doesn’t solve everything.

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by doubleh on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

She doesn’t have a nice body either. I’m all about the thin girls, but some how she makes it look bad. Grandmother-esque. She really doesn’t have a single quality that I can speak well of. I have no idea why Ferris married her rather than Sloan who was a piece of ass.

by EC.Comedy on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahaha i swear i tell my girlfriend this all the time as she loves laura dern. i specifically refer to her as, “the ugly crier”

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by coheedandtbs on Dec 8, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

How did/does Ben Harper stand looking at her 24/7.

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by boknows71 on Dec 8, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s high all the time.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Dec 8, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Giroux's next contract?

How long until he’s up for a new one? 2 years? If he keeps this up he’s gonna be an $8M player.

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by Pardini36 on Dec 8, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I was just worrying about that this morning. Would it be better to lock him up long term earlier to keep his price low, or ride it out another year or two and hope to have a better idea of what the rest of the team looks like?

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

For some reason I feel players aren’t going to like the long term extensions with the Flyers anymore.

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by Pardini36 on Dec 8, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I’m worried about that too. Too much anxiety for the morning after a big comeback victory.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s a bit of a double edge sword. That was their line of thinking with JVR and everyone wasn’t thrilled with that. You take a gamble either way because you could be locking them up cheap, or you could be over paying them by jumping the gun and giving them a contract and them not living up to it. I suppose it all boils down to which risk you are willing to take. Would you rather get stuck paying somebody who doesn’t live up to expectations, or get stuck giving them a bigger pay day or even losing them to free agency later on?

Personally, I can’t decide which method I prefer. Both have pro’s & con’s.

by EC.Comedy on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Sign him until 2074 with a full NMC and give him whatever money he wants. If we lose Giroux to free agency, Wayne Brady is gonna have to choke a bitch.

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by DannyMcG on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, we shoulda given that JVR contract to Giroux and given the Giroux contract to JVR.

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by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 8, 2011 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

They signed him to a 3 yr/$11.25M contract last year. He’ll be an RFA when it expires.

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by goldomatic on Dec 8, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay someone is going to have to make a liar out of me or convince me I need stronger glasses. I have watched the Gerbe hit now about 50 times and his head does not hit the glass at all. If his face was hurting due to the stitches I feel bad for him but that was nothing more then boarding. Bourdon will get 1 or 2 games because he didn’t need to finish the check or even make contact.

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by MJDII on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

It definite looks like his face mask comes up and probably catches his injury. And is face shield hits the glass for sure, then seems to catch the board on the way down and come up his face, which is where I think it hits his previous injury and why he didn’t return.

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by DLJr on Dec 8, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, in case anyone cares, the Angels signed Albert Pujols for 10 years/$250 million. Also, No trade clause.

Lolz.

I <3 our rookies.

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

I saw that about 20 minutes after I woke up and I’m still in shock!

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by JLS89 on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m still in shock too. When I read the Marlins were out I was fully expecting him to go back to St. Louis to finish out his career there.

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by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 8, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I never thought Pujols would end his career in StL. They gave that huge contract to Holliday and I just knew Albert would be gone.

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by doubleh on Dec 8, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I was just putting too much faith in Pujols being the kind of player who’d want to stay with the team he’s been a part of for the last 11 seasons and would care about the fanbase.

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by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 8, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he saw the writing on the wall. As one of the best players in the game, he’d get pressure from the player’s union to get the best contract available also.

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by doubleh on Dec 8, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that with the Reyes signing yesterday and this Pujols deal today we’ve got all the people on twitter using the #trader hashtag.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s bananas. Like they wouldn’t leave their first job for ridiculous money and job security elsewhere. We fans are so emotionally attached to these guys and our team that we forget it’s a job to them.

It’s terrible that in Reyes’ and Pujols’ cases, a lot of the fan “reaction” quickly dissolves into outright racism. I’m staying far away from website comment sections today.

I <3 our rookies.

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 8, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea some of the things I saw yesterday were really really bad. I almost can’t believe it.

by hebrew hammer on Dec 8, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m staying far away from website comment sections today.

For the most part, you should do that every day. A lot of website’s comments sections are guaranteed to drop your IQ.

by Phalange on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true. And why I love it here so much. This site is one of the few exceptions.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And C.J. Wilson. 5 years, $75M.

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by Justin F. on Dec 8, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Just glad it wasn’t the Marlins

by The Gang Wins the Cup on Dec 8, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Being a not-Cardinals fan living in St. Louis is fun again!

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by everybodyhitswoohoo on Dec 8, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

So I either need to stop having a social life or have more of a social life because the last two games I’ve missed and Giroux has scored the OT goal and after coming back to tie it. I watched the beginning of the game last night, but left after the 1st when the Flyers were down 3-1. I’m going to have a grilled cheese today in honor of the Flyers since I’m missing the game again.

Also, I turned on the ‘Canes pregame show last night and Boosh has a mysterious lower body injury. I couldn’t help but smile since he had the same issues last year too.

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by JLS89 on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

for me, social life and hockey are one

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Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Almost all of my friends nearby who like hockey are Caps fans. (I know plenty of Flyers fans back home, but they’re far away.) And my wife doesn’t really watch hockey at all. So I’m a lone wolf (of the sea) on this one.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

All my friends who are active Flyers fans have moved away (one to DC, one to Cincy). Everyone else still persists in the vain dream of an Eagles Superbowl win.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

In my case I’m the one who moved away. I’m such a jerk. :-p

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I moved to the south. I’ve never heard of rooting for a conference down here. Someone was talking shit to me when they learned I went to penn state about “7 in a row! about to be 8!” when he was talking about South Carolina. I had no idea what he meant…I was like “8 what in a row??”

Someone had to explain to me he was discussing the SEC.

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by Pardini36 on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

NHL.com is saying that Leino will have a hearing today regarding his flying elbow.

Nothing about Bourdon.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Dec 8, 2011 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting. If they’re going to have a hearing with Bourdon, it will be today because the Flyerss play tonight…

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Speculation that Crosby may have been injured by Krejci, not Kunitz:
http://thehockeywriters.com/video-krejci-elbows-crosby/

by mtitanic on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder if the search for what caused Crosby’s injury will rival the search for the missing puck from Kane’s SCF goal.

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by hintzy64 on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Quick! Call the FBI!

by mtitanic on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s like the Zapruder film.

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by doubleh on Dec 8, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Get ACME on the case

This is who stole it…. problem is, she could be anywhere in Europe, the US, the world, America’s past, the world’s past, or outer space. You think they would have found a more secure prison for her…

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by goldomatic on Dec 8, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i was her for halloween :)

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by tabby187 on Dec 8, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I am indebted to F&B for this observation, but I thought it was so good I’ll pass it along for your enjoyment.

When Crosby elbows Foligno: hockey play, unfortunate but part of the game.

When Krejci elbows Crosby: cheap shot deserving of retaliatory slash and some yapping.

Remember kids, consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

My friend who is a Pens fan said he’s been playing very aggressively since the return. I go “Roid rage? He been using to get back in shape? HuH?” My friend goes, “yeah, that’s good. Start that rumor.”

Consider the rumor “out there.” Haha.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 8, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hrmph. Another shooting at VTech

I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.

Stay educated, my friends

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

……… yeah

Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!

by goldomatic on Dec 8, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW, Brzy starting tonight.

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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 8, 2011 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

Should we start the first-period-goals-against over/under now?

I say 2 is the call.

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 8, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  


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