Concussions for everybody! Chris Pronger, Brayden Schenn out indefinitely
by Travis Hughes on Dec 9, 2011 12:22 PM EST
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PrintWe're not even 30 games into the regular season and Chris Pronger has been hit in the eye with a stick, he's had a mysterious "virus" that knocked him out for over a week, and he's had knee surgery.
Now, he has a concussion. Or "concussion-like symptoms." We're going to go out on a limb and say the virus probably was actually this head thing.
The Flyers announced the news Friday afternoon, and who the hell knows if they're being completely honest even now. They're never completely honest -- this is just more evidence of that -- so let's just never trust them on injuries again. Pronger will probably have a kidney transplant next week at this rate.
On top of that, Brayden Schenn's upper-body injury is a mild concussion, according to the team. Here's the release from Paul Holmgren:
While Chris' knee is improving, he has struggled with other issues that are concussion-like symptoms. Chris will see Dr. Joe Maroon and Dr. Mickey Collins on Wednesday, December 14th in Pittsburgh for further evaluation. Chris will be out indefinitely.
Brayden reported "not feeling himself" on December 5th. Our doctors believe he has a mild concussion. Brayden will be out indefinitely.
Collins is the doctor that dealt/is dealing with Sidney Crosby's head injury. Nightmare.
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Might be time for prongs to retire :( I pray he is ok my favorite player in NHL history :(
And shenn too :( this is ridiculas
by yus_44 on Dec 9, 2011 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If it comes to that, Prongs won’t retire – it’ll end up being a Rathje/Laperriere deal in which the player’s still on the roster, but placed on LTIR to recover the cap space. Prongs’ cap hit counts even if he retires now.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Good point.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Scratch that, great point. That’s something very important to consider. Are you listening, Homer?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
When the CBA is renewed with amendments by the owners and the players next year, an opportunity will arise for the Flyers to buy out Prongers +35 contract if he is injured and needs to retire.
He will then no longer be on the books and will not count against the cap
However, I hope nothing but the best of health for Pronger
Right – the Flyers would only owe him 2/3 of his contract in a buyout, but the entire cap hit would count until his contract expires.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Ohh, I though it was the opposite. Still owe him all the money but the cap hit drops. Thats how the Rangers Dury contract buyout worked isnt it?
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
Chris Drury was 34 when he retired/was bought out. Thus, he did not have a 35+ contract.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Yep. Pronger probably just got Lappy’d. Sucks.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Why do I picture the Hyperbole and a Half meme...
Concuss ALL the players!
Well, actually, don’t. Stop it. Concussions are annoying.
"Simba needs to sharpen his claws" - Ilya Bryzgalov, on Scott Hartnell
Assistant Masthead Power Person on Down Goes Spezza as ItsAFez66
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates
When did everyones head get so soft?
-bob
by Rrainone on Dec 9, 2011 12:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Seemed oddly appropriate...
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I never comment on things, but this required a sign-up
Funniest thing I have seen on the web in like….ever!
by Albert Piechotta on Dec 9, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha, thanks. It’s more or less my go-to gif, since I love Scrubs and am frequently frustrated by something about the Flyers… :-p
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Wait, Wait, Wait..........
So Pronger had a virus that settled in his knee and caused a spastic reaction whereby he kneed himself in the head??? Boy, no wonder Homer didn’t tell the truth………..no one would ever believe it
by Pocono Flyers Fan on Dec 9, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions
I don’t mind the Flyers not giving the fans/media/rest of the NHL the full 100% truth. What difference does it make? Just let me know how long he’s expected to be out and the rest is moot.
by DieHardFlyersFaninChicago on Dec 9, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions
At this point, I don’t even care about that. Just keep winning so we can have him back and healthy in time for the playoffs.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 9, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Because the NHL is the only sport in which these lies are tolerated
/Hey, NFL, thanks for worrying about the gamblers
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Homer, nice to have you in our thread!
/Good to know Homer’s religion, per his .sig
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Not sure if that was sarcasm or not, but they have a 4 game win streak. I see no reason to hit the panic button just yet. That’s how you get over the barrel, and lose players like Justin Williams.
You think Homer can get MORE over the barrel than he already is?
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
I’d have to agree.
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
I was focused on Pronger and not on Schenn – you’re absolutely right. I wonder how different things would be if the Flyers had accepted Jonathan Bernier in that trade instead of Schenn.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
HE’S NOT A BUST. HE’S INJURED AND 20 YEARS OLD.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
True, but with Giroux, Briere and Couturier, the Flyers are set at center for at least the next three years. Trade for Bernier and you don’t sign Bryz or commit $5M+ to a goalie for the next 9 years. Then you’ve got extra money to spend on, say, another defenseman.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Goodness knows the Flyers were giving Bryz that contract regardless. There’s no way they would go with two “non-veteran” goalies.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
The scenario you described made too much sense.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
That scenario still involves trading away two of your three best forwards for young depth when your defense is anchored by men in their late 30s.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Oh, right. I just meant the “not signing an expensive goalie so that we could have extra money for a D” part.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Also, accepting that trading Richards and/or Carter was a foregone conclusion.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
with Giroux, Briereand Couturier, Richards and Carter, the Flyers are set at center for at least the next three years
Funny how that works.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I’ll take Couturier over Carter any day of the week
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 9, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree, I think he’s growing more now in his current role. Everyone knows his offense is great, but to be a top line center, you’ll ned to play awesome D. Being a top line PKer and taking the 4th defensive line helps him in the future.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
and how can we know his offense is great playing alongside rinaldo and z/shelley? we already know the kid is one hell of a defensive forward, i don’t think we know his offensive upside and id rather not stagnate it
Right, but as I asked below, where does he go, and who moves down?
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Dec 9, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
personally with how well he seems to adapt im sure he could play wing, move him up and move some1 else down like simmonds…or atleast give him some pp time with giroux and jagr..those are the kinda people i want cooter learning from…honestly any way he can work offensiviely ill take as long as it isnt on the 4th line with rinaldo and z/shelly….for right now he could take shenns place
See, the thing is, just playing at this level is helping him. Is he doing well? Yes. But who do you put down to center the 4th line if not him? And if you start playing him on a higher line, facing tougher competition, is he going to continue to grow, or will it stunt him if he starts getting tooled all over the ice? I’d rather him take a small role and do well with it, then be used more as the situation presents itself.
He is a rookie, very young, and many here are worried if he gets over played he will hit a wall later in the season, as many rookies have. So I would say he is being used correctly, and will grow this year to get into a larger role next season/playoffs.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
Well Couturier at 18 >> Carter at 18. At least that much is clear.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 10, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
In three years, Schenn will be 23 and Couturier will be 22. This is not a problem.
And we didn’t NEED to make a move for a goalie. The reason we signed Bryz is because Snider wanted a “proven number one,” which Bernier isn’t.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Thanks for this
Was about to post upthread a bit, that Mr Snider, crotchety old man, issued an Edict which is GM duly followed.
by Georgia_Flyer on Dec 9, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I agree into one part of your comment. With G being an MVP candidate, Briere here, and Scoots playing amazing. If Schenn keeps getting hurt, his ass could be moved if we try and get a player like Weber
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
Schenn’s cap hit: 3.1 mil
Weber’s cap hit: 7.5 mil
Sorry, that’s not happening.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Isn’t Schenn’s cap hit even less than 3 mil?
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Technically – 3.1M includes bonuses that he won’t even qualify for this year. His real cap hit without those bonuses is closer to 1.7M, I believe.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Nearly simultaneous. Not sure who owes who the Pepsi? :-))
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
No, his cap hit is 3.1 but it goes down after the first couple of days of the year due to his weirdly phrased bonus contingency.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
So, it went down already, right? To something like 1.5 mil.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
1.7 TNBrando and I think.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Yeah, saw his comment right after I posted.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
NO NO NO
$7M for 7 years says no
/You may want to get to know Anders Lindback as well
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
This is Pekke Rinne’s contract, yes? It’s why Nashville wouldn’t want Bob.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Nicely done LL. And you’re the relative newcomer. :-))
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
High fives all around.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Anders Lindback, the backup, is very good as well
/another reason the Rinne contract is insane
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
It reminds me of our goalie tandem. Gives me the warm fuzzies.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
RINNE
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Yes, why I created a “do you want Hartnell back” thread at On the Forecheck this summer
/Hey, they’d want him now!
//What, you don’t want him traded now?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
And break up that line with Giroux and Jagr? I think not.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
That G and Jagr line was good before Hartnell and would be good after. You could put me out there and I’d do fine with those guys
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
I love when people make that claim. Good luck.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
How sure are you that we can afford him in the offseason? What if Pronger’s injury isn’t, you know, permanent?
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Oh wait. Chris Pronger didn’t just die? That changes everything!
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of fire, you’re on fire today. :-))
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Yeah, fuck it! They are not-us, I’m sure they’ll take whatever we have to offer them!
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
It’s Ed Wade all over again!!!!1
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a trade scenario. Schenn and Bob for Weber, using Pronger’s LTIR space to make it fit.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
No, that’s why we can’t do it.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Look I know its sucks cause we like Schenn and Bobs(I have his jersey for christ sakes) but lets face it, both those guys ARE replaceable in the short and long term. Schenn would have to change positions or Scoots would have to stay on the 4th line for them to stay with Danny here for 4 more years, and Bobs will just leave for nothing in 2 years anyway.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
We have no idea what Schenn is yet. We’d be selling low. And we’re not really selling with on Bob either.
I’m not sure how replaceable either is. We haven’t had a young goaltender with Bob’s numbers in over a decade (hell, we’ve had very few goalies at all with his numbers). Schenn is a project with the upside of 1st/2nd line for an affordable contract. You’d really trade a player like that just because he’s classically a center? And because there’s an old guy in his way until he’s 24? After seeing what Carter did at wing last year?
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
ding ding
I’d be very surprised if Schenn gets traded.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Quoting myself from yesterday:
Get rid of him and Dom Brown too!
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
WE’RE HAVING A FIRE!! (sale) OH IT BURNS! EVACUATE THE SCHOOLCHILDREN!!
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
“Planning? What’s that?”
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
If Sami Kapanen can play defense, i’m sure Richards would be fin
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Dec 9, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
No
Kapanen was the Fin. Richie is Canadian.
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Dec 9, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Believe it or not, Richards is also out with concussion-like symptoms right now.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yes that is true, although he is was skating today, and will probably be back on the ice shortly. In the month of November Richards tied for most goals scored, playing on one of the lowest scoring teams in the NHL at present. During that stretch there was a game he played where he won 15 out of 16 faceoffs. To say that he’s bounced back nicely from his hand injury would be quite an understatement. People in LA who are fairly dejected right now with what’s going on with the team, are absolutely in love with Mike Richards. Since he went out (although to be fair, so did Willie Mitchell who is a big piece of their defensive stability) the team has lost 4 straight games.
Why must you type out depressing comments like these? Tell me more about Carter, I like hearing about Carter.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 10, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I know how well he’s doing, I’ve got him on my fantasy team. I am also getting my ass handed to me since he went out. Dunno why, the rest of my team should be just fine, but they’ve all decided to take it easy this week apparently.
I’m just surprised at how many people have “concussion-like symptoms” right now. It’s a lot.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
With Backlund healthy for ADK, and Leighton a passable back-up goalie, could the Flyers move Bob for a couple of young defensemen now?
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
I donno. Leighton IS a typical average backup. With Bryz stuck here long term might as well trade Bobs for good young D while we can
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
we all know how this would work for the flyers bobs gets traded leighton gets called up and is claimed on re-entry or gets injured because his five hole is so big
Almost. Bob traded, Leighton claimed, Bryz injured, Bacashihua/Backlund tandem in the NHL.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He’s scenario-ing.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
how the hell did a perfectly calm thread about chris pronger dying turn into something horrific about leighton being the backup goalie?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 9, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
perfectly calm thread about chris pronger dying
I think we’ve established that “perfectly calm” would not go with “chris pronger dying”.
/we believe these rants to be self-evident, all concussions are not equal
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Via the trigger-happy folks that want to ship Bob, Schenn, etc off to get more defense.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Leighton is the unmentionable thing hiding under the bed that comes out when we’re freaked out about something else. I’ve seen it before.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 9, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
The id.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
But you know what? This works:
Leighton is the “id.” He wants to play in the NHL!!!!! NOW!!!!
Ed Snider is the “superego.” Having Leighton in the lineup gives you a VERY BAD GOALIE and YOU DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED FOR IT and I NEVER WANT TO SEE ANYTHING LIKE LAST YEAR’S PLAYOFFS HAPPEN AGAIN.
Paul Holmgren is the “ego.” He has to act in a way that appeases the Id without offending the superego. So he signs Leighton to a huge contract relative to his ability and gives him a starting job in the AHL, thus satisfying Leighton’s drive to play and Snider’s not wanting a repeat of last season.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
When I’m freaked out about something, I have dreams about being naked in public. This is kind of the same thing.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
OT
Oddly enough, when I have dreams about being naked, nobody else notices. You piqued my curiosity, so I looked it up and apparently it means I worry too much about nothing. Interesting.
Often times, when you realize that you are naked in your dream, no one else seems to notice. Everyone else in the dream is going about their business without giving a second look at your nakedness. If this happens in your dream, then it implies that your fears are unfounded; no one will notice except you. You may be magnifying the situation and making an issue of nothing.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
So this thread is dreaming about itself being naked?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
i love this idea. thread consciousness.
Do comment threads dream of naked recs?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 9, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Is the rec for the content of the comment, or because it’s naked?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Depends on the thread and comment.
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
Fair enough.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Two examples, Jody Shelley and Katy Perry.
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
Same here. No one else notices, but I’m always like “oh no, not this again.”
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
But we need defense. The question is set I’m just looking for answers. I’d rather trade Schenn and Bob over Giroux or JVR or anybody else on the team that has value.
"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov
Young defense?
We have Colin Suellentrop in the system.
He seems like a decent defensive defenseman, and out of the seven fights I’ve seen of his, I’d put him at 4-1-2. He will need a couple years to develop, though, since he’s just 18.
Bob.
No deal. I want Bob. I’m all for giving him a few more starts and using them as a tandem. Bryz can still have the majority, that’s fine, but I want Bob around when Bryz isn’t playing.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Bob is a great goalie to have, bu t there are teams out there that would overpay for him. Columbus comes readily to mind.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
What does an overpay look like, in this scenario?
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Considering the Avs gave up 1st and 2nd rd. picks for Varlamov, something like that.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
And why would the Columbus be that stupid, in the middle of a lost season, no less?
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
why would the Columbus be that stupid
Is this a real question?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Because Bob’s cap hit is less than Mason’s, he’s signed for another year after this and he’s a RFA at the end of his deal. Oh, and Mason’s not playing well.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
It’s not like there back is against the wall, though. There’s no reason for them to overpay just because they have a below-average starting goalie. Draft picks are much more valuable when your team is too crappy to make the playoffs this year.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Why would we want to do that? We’ll be fine without him for a while. I don’t know if you’ve seen this team play lately, but things look pretty good on the ice right now.
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I know, right? Why are we suddenly in a hurry to dump all our assets again?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Homer.
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
People might not be talking immediately, but things to consider moving forward…that is possible, despite the way the organization is run, not every suggestion is about right now.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Let’s give Marshall and Bourdon time to keep gelling. I think they’re doing quite well for their first taste of NHL action.
Evaluate again in February as the deadline approaches.
by Georgia_Flyer on Dec 9, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Why can’t the Flyers just be honest and upfront about this stuff? Unbelievable.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
This. Of course, concussions are something new for the Flyers to deal with, both with players and the media.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
You have to admit, the knee surgery was a pretty good cover. If I were trying to convince people my injury wasn’t a concussion, I would definitely get surgery on my knee.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I didn’t necessarily mean covering for a concussion with knee surgery, just that the Flyers never tell the truth about injuries.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if, within the next week, the Flyers come out and say Shenn has the clap or something.
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Dec 9, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bad Santa, which will be the 1st half of the weekly movie night I do at my bar on December 27th. The 2nd half will be Nightmare Before Christmas.
I just occurred to me that I’m showing the Nightmare Before Christmas, AFTER Christmas. Poor planning on my part.
I suspected some other injury to Pronger. The fact that it’s a concussion is….nastily ironic.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Honestly, I was thinking he was having issues with his eye. Blindness or something.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. Something like this.
The fact that it’s a concussion is unbelievably annoying. The real problem is that it eliminates any credibility that the Flyers brass might have had.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
The real problem is that it eliminates any credibility that the Flyers brass might have had.
I think it was long gone.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I have a headache and feel nauseous.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 9, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions
You’re pregnant.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
by hintzy64 on Dec 9, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, wait, is THAT Pronger’s problem?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
“Little guy keeps elbowing me in the kidneys!”
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
by hintzy64 on Dec 9, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your eye is hanging on its optic nerve and laying on your cheek there a little.
/imagines this happening to Pronger
//has panic attack
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
/recovers
//bakes cupcakes
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mmmm….cupcakes.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Ooh. I want to go to there.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
And I’m concocting a cookie dough cupcake recipe (yellow cake with cookie dough inside) for the kids.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice. I just got an ice cream maker, so my head is full of ideas for that.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Someone was talking about getting the ice cream maker attachment for the Kitchenaid mixer awhile ago. Was that you? If so, how awesome is it? I just saw a commercial for it, and it looks hella awesome.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Quite possibly me, I just got it like two weeks ago. I’ve only used it once so far, but I think it’s great. I’m just going to permanently keep the bowl in my freezer so it’s always ready to go. But it was easy to use and easy to clean up. Make and chill the “batter” (this was the hardest part of the whole process, unless I decide to forego cooking the eggs in the future or not use eggs), turn the mixer on to its lowest speed, pour the batter in, let it churn for 30 mins, add the mix-ins just before it’s done, freeze overnight to harden or eat it immediately. Wash the dasher and bowl and put the bowl back in the freezer to prepare it for the next batch.
My first batch was peppermint ice cream with chopped Andes mints mixed in. Looking at various recipes online, they all seem to follow the same basic format. The base of the ice cream is always some combination of milk and heavy cream (vary the proportions to adjust fat content and texture), egg yolks, and sugar. Add any flavoring or mix-ins you can imagine. I want to try bourbon-molasses ice cream with walnuts, cherries, dates and chocolate chips mixed in, inspired by a cake recipe my wife’s uncle makes every year.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I should note that my brother-in-law has the cuisinart ice cream maker, which is also a freezer-bowl-style like the kitchenaid attachment. (As opposed to using rock salt and ice, like most ice cream makers do.) It works equally well, but it is a stand-alone unit. I felt that getting an accessory for something I already have was more efficient than buying a separate machine. Just my $0.02.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
That sounds incredible. But would the alcohol in the bourbon mess with the ice cream’s freezing process? Maybe make a bourbon-molasses syrup, and swirl that throughout a vanilla or chocolate ice cream base. Hooooooly crap.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm, interesting question. I’ve seen a few recipes for bourbon ice cream, so it may be possible, but I don’t know if it would change anything. A syrup is a good idea though as an alternative. I was originally thinking just brown sugar, molasses, or chocolate ice cream, but a friend suggested bourbon when I told him what I wanted to make.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Oh! I remember now, I think I talked about wanting to get the attachment way back at Halloween. We were discussing orange and black flavor combinations. And I want to make chocolate orange ice cream.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yes! That was it- I was asking about orange and black combos for an ice cream cake I was planning.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
For those assuming GMs never do anything stupid or panicky, MTL traded for Tomas Kaberle today. They’re two-fifths of the way to having an All-Star buyout team.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Wow. MTL one-upping Columbus.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Rutherford needs to run a used-car dealership on the side.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Maybe he advised MTL on signing Cole.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Every GM has guys who look like chocolate or blow. Kaberle seems to have a bunch of them. Guy is stressing the mail-forwarding operation of North American post offices.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 9, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Lol, maybe if we get Kaberle to retire we’ll still have Saturday delivery!
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I just don’t think we should assume they will be stupid or panicky. I don’t think we can assume that a GM won’t be able to properly evaluate his assets and bother trading for a goaltender when his team sits at the bottom of the league.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
But jeebus is that a bad trade. Plekanec was at 5 mil for 5 more years, but also playing really well. 24 pts and second among Habs forward in Corsi Rel QoC with 40% OZS.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Wait, was Plekanec a part of this deal? I thought Spacek was?
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Spacek.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Shit, good call. Ks are confusing.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
If Rutherford had got Plekanec for Kaberle, he would’ve had the GM-of-the-year trophy already handed to him.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
almost all of Spacek’s letters are in Plekancec. All those eastern europeans look alike anyway.
Karel Capek
Vaclav Halak
Hasek Kafka
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 9, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm more worried about Schenn
Pronger I saw coming, but Schenn is a young potential superstar. I’m worried he’ll never recover at this point. Perhaps it’s better if he sits all year.
Perhaps they knew this when they kept Coutierier up.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
by Dr. Steve on Dec 9, 2011 1:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Flyers can recover from a forward out of the lineup easier than a defenseman out of the lineup.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
I don’t take concussions lightly, and Schenn is no ordinary forward. Pronger also doesn’t have a decade of prime play ahead of him.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
by Dr. Steve on Dec 9, 2011 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Schenn’s concussion is supposedly “minor.” Doesn’t mean the dude is made of glass.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Been burned too many times by that word. Not letting my guard down.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
by Dr. Steve on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"Crosby has a minor concussion"
“He will be out a week to 10 days at the most”
-Pens organization last year
The decision to keep Scooter up was made when Schenn was out with the ankle if I remember correctly. He rehabbed and came back to play a few games, got hit in one which is where the concussion likely happened, so I don’t know how the FO would have weighed in a future injury on that call. Unless they can see the future now. Maybe that’s why Homer is always making weird decisions, he’s “gifted”.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
OT: Maple Leafs bought by Rogers, Bell Canada
For Torontoans, this is kind of like if Comcast, already owning NBC, the Flyers and the Sixers, also bought the Phillies and Citizens Bank Park.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Raptors too.
On a related note, does this mean the Pension Plan Puppets have to change their name?
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
Comcast doesn’t own the Sixers, thankfully.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I read somewhere that Will Smith owns the Sixers, at least partially. Is that true?
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
“Your arm’s off!”
“It’s just a flesh wound!”
Ecstatic to be joing the Florida Panthers Organization!! Awesome day... Truly a dream come true.
- @ScottieUpshall (July 1, 2011 2:15pm EST)
Well, Pronger is halfway to no legs.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'm invincible!
You’re a looney, Kaleta…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
and the guy with sword represents the Flyers medical staff?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Dec 9, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Kidneys
Pronger will probably have a kidney transplant next week
What he said is he “is going to transplant Malkin’s kidneys into a goat next week”. Get your facts straight.
Residual effects from taking the stick to the eye.
My gut instinct tells me he’s still got some pressure in the eye that was struck with the stick blade. Even the slightest amount of pressure can be noticeable, and increased head pressure -→ headache, or perhaps…concussion-like symptoms. It’s not unfathomable. Even if the pressure is only in one eye, and not “throughout” his head, it could potentially play with his equilibrium.
Still, I don’t think he has a concussion, but am not surprised at him having related symptoms. Hopefully he’s back before the WC.
Jagr shoots, Jagr scores!!!!!!
Haha. I wanted the Dogg with the Liberty Bell on his head anyway.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 9, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
He really just needs to be back by Mid-March
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 9, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions
Am I the only one who’d rather Schenn and Pronger go to see
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(Hit post too early)
That they go to see the guy who treated the neck damage from Gagne’s concussions, considering how much of a difference that made in his recovery?
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by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 9, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Is it me or does everyone who gets a little bump on the head seem to have concussion? I fell on my face plenty of times when i was young and I’m fine! Quit crying and play some damn hockey!
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#1 Eagles fan in England behind NO one!
Understand the sentiment, but your talking about lives and careers here. Prongs could have had a lingering issue from the eye (as someone pointed out) then came back and got hit pretty badly from behind where his head hit the dasher, so this may not be a lttlle bump. Also, the speed at which the game is played small hits can be brutal if the bumps happen just so. Skating at 20 mph and then getting spun around or jolted to a quick stop where your brain keeps moving can cause a concussion easily.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
It was meant to be a bit of joke, i should have put a wink at the end to clarify. My bad! My excuse is its late over here
#2 Flyers fan in England behind Orange and Black Forever (Damn him and his Americanness)
#1 Eagles fan in England behind NO one!
Late to the show and only briefly skimmed over the 250 comments
Three things:
1) The eye is an outpouching of the brain. There is a possibility Pronger’s eye injury has had some residual effects on his brain.
2) Reading Schenn’s story, he’s had minor symptoms at irregular intervals. At times he’s been practicing with no issues whatsoever but then later he doesn’t feel good. Kid can’t get any luck
3) I read some ‘trade Schenn’ things above. Please tell me this was everyone making sarcastic trade scenarios. Because there’s something about trading a 20-year-old elite prospect who should blossom into a first liner that doesn’t quite sit well with me. In all seriousness, Schenn’s value will never be lower, so it’s not a good idea anyway. But in general all I have to say is: #givethekidachance
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 9, 2011 11:25 PM EST reply actions
I am a bit worried
obviously about Pronger and his future. Schenn just can’t catch any breaks and I am going to try an be optimistic about his future. He’s still so young that lets give him the benefit of the doubt. At the end of the day we are still tops in the division an look great right now, our goalie is back on track an we have possibly the best forward in the game RIGHT NOW. But given our position, I hope that doesnt make Homer comfortable. Our defense has been solid, but with Prongs dilemma, I hope he certainly pursues possibly small defensive deals to sure up the blueline depth. We have a team here that given the right breaks, has the ability to go deep in the playoffs. I know its real early still, but this team has a great balance of youth and veteran presence and I just hope Homer is proactive enough to sure up our roster specifically defense to put our team in the best position to win it all, this year. If Pronger didnt have these issues, I would say our team is complete.
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