Kryptonite? Flyers return from break with 4-0 loss to Lightning
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I was in Raleigh on Sunday, and part of me seriously considered driving to Tampa for tonight's Flyers game vs. the Lightning. My rationale for driving 10 hours (20 round trip) out of the way? Well, I've never been to Tampa for a hockey game before, and when was the next time I'd be half way there already?
I'm glad I decided to save the trip for another time.
I think the Flyers showed up tonight in St. Petersburg. At least, I'm sure the hotel bill charged to 3601 South Broad and the plane back to Philadelphia will create some sort of paper trail of their arrival and departure from Florida.
In terms of hockey, though, I'm not so sure. The CSN team -- really, Bob Clarke -- said that tonight was different than the last time the Flyers had one of these breaks. You remember the game in Vancouver. The guys let the Canucks take an early lead and they never really got out of the initial funk. Clarkie was of the opinion that tonight was different -- that the Flyers had the effort, but that they fell victim to a few odd bounces.
You can't deny that they fell early thanks to some odd bounces, but they had several opportunities to get back in the game, especially with the man advantage, early in the game. The game was 2-0 and 3-0 very early, but if the Flyers could have scored on the power play, they would've been right back in this one.
Instead, they opted for low-percentage chances and poor shot selection (despite posting 40 shots), allowing 90-year-old Dwayne Roloson to see every just about every puck. Peter Laviolette said that the Flyers just didn't get any luck tonight, but I'm of the opinion that you create a lot of your "luck" (as weird as that sentence might sounds).
Using a lack of luck as the reason for losing 4-0 tonight seems a little dishonest, doesn't it?
The Lightning did capitalize on some weird chances early, and they definitely tightened up once they had the 3-0 lead. They played a pretty wicked trap that was really, really frustrating. But hey, guess what? The Flyers are the best team in the NHL, supposedly. Find a way to beat it. Find a way to make your own luck.
After the jump, questions with answers and the comment of the night.
Questions with Answers
- Steven Stamkos scores about 99.9 percent of his goals by sneaking down around the bottom of the circle and blasting a one-timer into the net. He ate Braydon Coburn alive with this last time these teams met. Can the Flyers stop that? He wasn't there much tonight. He didn't have to be.
- Gagne has been much better lately for the Lightning. How's he do tonight? Uh, two assists in about 9 seconds (or something). How's that?
- The Lightning are terrible in transition and in the neutral zone. Can the Flyers exploit that weakness? The Lightning didn't even really have to play in the neutral zone. Not on their goals, at least. The Flyers gave several of them (at least two, I'm working off memory) off turnovers in the neutral zone.
- The power play actually scored some goals in the last game before the break. That ends the several-month-long funk, right? (Probably not.) Oh shut up.
Comment of the Night
Did the music guy find Evgeni Malkin in the audience or something?
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the lightining is the only team at this point that i fear in the playoffs. they just got our number at this point.
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I’m sure you didn’t miss me tonight, did you?
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
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haha, was following twitter, so I had enough of your comments anyway
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Feb 1, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Lol, really? ……. My god I’ve been followed! O.O
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
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The only tension we missed around here tonight was the special kind of tension you add to the site.
Just Call Me "M"!
Special kind of tension? I hope you mean a positive tension.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Oh...

I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
I was trying to watch the game online so I had to close everything and shut down everything but the one window with the game feed. It still kept freezing. Oh well…
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Hey Kat. This might have been covered already but are you an American living abroad?
Just Call Me "M"!
Nope. Czech. Born, raised etc. Whyyy?
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Just curious. No alternative motive. Just find it interesting. I am naive as to matters of international life.
Just Call Me "M"!
Oh. Okay :)
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Its cool that you basically interact here as if there is no real difference in your daily life then ours. I just have this impression, naive I admit, that where you are from is almost like another planet but I guess it is not.
Just Call Me "M"!
Not true. We have 12 eyes. Actually, I have only 11 now. Gags poked out my 12th eye when we…… ah, nevermind.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Ahh, I see. Well my daily life is pretty much boring right now. I’m done with school for the time being and also sick so I’m sleeping in late, staying up late…
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Unfortunately too much of my impressions are formed by movies rather then reality. Do you live with your parents or are you away at school in a dorm?
Just Call Me "M"!
I live with my parents. Hey no worries, most of the people over here get their impression of the Americans from movies too.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
I live my life just like Walker, Texas Ranger.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 1, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, touche.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 2, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Well watching John Hughes and getting impressions and watching European movies like ‘Taken’ are very different. I would think life is tougher in Czech republic
Just Call Me "M"!
I’m afraid I haven’t seen Taken… Anyway, our country… well. It’s full of liars, thieves, corrupts and just… I may be the wrong person to talk to because I’m not very fond of my own nation… O.o But we have a great beer.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
No problem with questions :) And I have a bachelor degree in economics and marketing since… January, haha.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
I think I’m going with few more years of school. Get a major or how do you call it… And yup, I have. September ’07 I was in California.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
We stayed in St. Barbara. Visited LA and also San Francisco. Loved it.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
You need to come to Philly to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of how people here operate. Then again maybe not.
Just Call Me "M"!
I wish I could! Well.. I’m coming to Florida in two months… :D
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Lightning :P And also my dad’s golfing. Haha.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Ha, what part of Florida? My best friend lives down there, and I’m visiting him in April
I'm kind of a dick.
So M asks her 70 questions, but I ask what part of Florida she’s visiting and I’m the creeper??
I'm kind of a dick.
My story was simply a real-life analogy towards the game. And I’m sure most guys that aren’t monks have a similar story….
I'm kind of a dick.
Yes, I understand, thanks for sharing it btw. But perhaps my one-word interjection should have been: Stalker!
/just bustin’ your stones
Todd seems like a cool dude and all but not sure he can handle that kind of pressure.
Just Call Me "M"!
Kat is probably just a real sweet kid. Seeing as she is half my age but she seems feisty. That takes a special kind of attention and as girlfriends go that could be extra pressure for some guys. I was mostly kidding see in as todd isn’t here to defend himself.
Just Call Me "M"!
Hahahaaa… Yeah, you could say I am feisty. But it’s not that bad :)
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
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Orlando :)
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Then you have to get to Disney. That is real american shit there. Also take the drive to Clearwater and catch the phils at spring training.
Just Call Me "M"!
Ha! That’d be something.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
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Haha, I don’t see it as prying. I’m exotic, eh? Haha. Anyway, now I gotta go to bed. Good night!
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Then you have to get to Disney. That is real american shit there
Yup, nothing says the American experience then waiting in a 4 hour line full of obese people and Mexicans to ride in a tiny boat for 3 minuets :D
Samesis
Reminds me of that South Park episode.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 2, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Gah! Disney is like the opposite of the rest of Florida. Do an airboat ride, take a day trip up to St. Augustine to see Fort Matanzas and the Castillo de San Marcos, go over to Fort Christmas to learn about the Cracker culture, but for the love of all that is holy, avoid the Mouse House like the blight on Floridian culture that it is!
Bob.
Come on man I get the anti commercialism kick but lose the high horse and tell me it ain’t fun as hell.
Just Call Me "M"!
I dunno – after twenty years down here, they get annoying. They’re the largest employer in Central Florida, they don’t pay jack to the people working in the parks, and the rest of Florida’s nothing like Disney. It’d be like going to Sesame Place and building your impression of Pennsylvania from that – nothing about the history, the Amish country, any of the heritage. Yeah, it can be entertaining, but there’s a lot more to Florida than Disney.
Bob.
I’m just drawing a parallel – the Amish are a unique culture, in a similar fashion to the Crackers (as far as being unique, not in specifics). If someone says they’re coming to Philly, would you recommend Sesame Place and Hershey Park, or Independence Hall and the Franklin Institute? There’s nothing wrong with Disney, it’s just stereotypical, like throwing snowballs at Santa.
Bob.
“Cops”? I would have to know more to tell whether we do or not…
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
It’s a long running reality show over here. It follows police officers on patrol responding to various calls. It showcases the worst of what America has to offer…..
I'm kind of a dick.
Ah, nope we don’t have that. But I think we have our own Czech version of that. Sort of.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
They only focus on the South because if they followed northern cops, the show would just be one giant bleep… :P
Bob.
That must be it. I’ll tell you, I was in Jackson, Miss. when I was 16, just me and 3 girls driving through the city, and I did not think we were getting out alive.
I'm kind of a dick.
Imagine if you went to temple in the late eighties befor ethe started sanitizing north Philly. Got mugged at gun point, car was stolen it was all part of the experience.
Just Call Me "M"!
I used to go into North Philly a lot in the late 90’s for reasons I won’t discuss here. I’ve had friends beaten up there, pistol whipped, and one friend had a gun in his face, and the guy pulled the trigger but it jammed.
I don’t know when they started “sanitizing” North Philly, but it’s still an on-going process, cause it sucks there. But Jackson was a different kind of suck….
I'm kind of a dick.
Maury comes to mind way before Cops does, at least in my eyes. I’m home to experience daytime TV though.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 2, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
I think I am going to watch the replay of the game. You know just for the fun of it.
Just Call Me "M"!
And by fun you mean torture like pulling out one’s own fingernails?
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Feb 1, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Is this like the Vancouver game?
Or should we be worried? I think our team was still on vacation tonight.
I’m sorry but 2 goals in the first 1:30 of the 1st period is poor!
I’m looking down the road a bit, but we are going to have to beat Tampa to get back to the finals. Haven’t come close in 3 games this season.
I think the 8-7 game was close enough.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
You don't see 8-7 games too often
But still, I would like to beat this team before the playoffs.
I actually believe you worry less about blow out games like tonight then if you would have lost a 2-1 squeaker that left you wondering. It was a lousy effort.
Just Call Me "M"!
Exactly.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
But for the lightning to come out from the same layoff and look sharp makes you wonder what the flyers are missing in there mental game that doesn’t let you pick up where you left off. Just puzzling.
Just Call Me "M"!
Maybe the Lightning were a bit more motivated? You’re the best team in the league after all… I don’t know…
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
I disagree. I worry about lack of effort, which is what I saw tonight. I would much rather see a game where we gave our all and lost 2-1 because of a bounce here, or a save there, than to not even show up.
I'm kind of a dick.
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Travis, I’m glad you didn’t drive all the way to Florida for this game. Plus, the Lightning don’t offer the same deal as the Panthers – a good time at the game or your money back.
Sarauj, Latvija!
by LVHokejs on Feb 1, 2011 11:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don’t think this is entirely my Gagne bias talking, but for Gagne to have that goal taken away, when it looks to have barely grazed Purcell’s heel and Purcell wasn’t even looking at the play, is just highway robbery. While it was a fluke that the puck came right to him the way it did, he definitely deserved credit.
I didn’t watch the replay, but I was confused when they said it was Purcell’s. I didn’t think anyone was even in the way of the shot.
I'm kind of a dick.
i had to go frame by frame on the replay to figure out that it even scraped along the back of Purcell’s skate. I’m not even sure if it changed direction, because I’m having a tough time believing there was even real contact as the shot went by.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 1, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
D'aww, you <3

He had a great game, that’s all I know and care about.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
Did you see the CSN Philly article Panotch did today? You might enjoy it: http://www.csnphilly.com/02/01/11/Ex-Flyer-Gagne-finally-finding-his-groov/landing_flyers.html?blockID=401811&feedID=695
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 1, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
I did… and quite honestly his articles always bring me to tears. He always hits home with certain things he says and what he talks about in his articles. Ugh. I really went through some crap last summer and he likes to remind me of it. But all in all the article was good… it’s kinda funny to read what Simon says because that’s the exact same stuff I’ve been using to his defence. I know him too well… ahahaha.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
I didn’t realize that Lavy was living in his old house, I thought that was amusing. Along with some other tidbits that I never saw reported elsewhere
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 1, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m done for the night, but ima just say this: I’m treating this game like the Boston game a few weeks back-flush it down the toilet and forget about it. It was a terrible effort all around, stupid ass bounces, and just an all around unwatchable game. I’m not too worried about it
The Carter-Z-Giroux line looked fantastic out there!
Nodl, way to hit him in the chest!
And I’m still not worried about the Lightning. Would it be nice to beat them? Sure. But I generally worry about teams that have had recent success and are built from the back forward. The Lightning have some real talent up front and if Roloson plays that well, he’s going to be tough. Their D needs to be exploited, and we failed miserably at that. I think we need to throw the same trap at the Lightning that we threw at the Hawks. We looked too anxious to cross the blue line and try some asinine play that lead to a brutal turnover.
I wasn’t horrified with the effort; the effort looked mostly misguided. The Lightning employ a strategy similar to ours right now (or so it seemed), to relax deep and pounce on mistakes. We refused to let the Lightning get out of sorts, and we had no problem getting ourselves all caught deep. I refuse to believe there’s a team in the NHL we can’t beat in a 7 game series, and I’m certainly not going to say a team with Randy Jones and Dwayne Roloson has our number, so much so that we should throw in the towel now.
I love how the recap consisted entirely of M and Kat.
And a zinger from JpH. Well, two of them really.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 2, 2011 10:03 AM EST reply actions
Hey I figured I would keep the lack of conversation above board. As you know it goes down hill fast with that girl. Curious if she was really just a normal girl.
Just Call Me "M"!
haha, you did a good job. In fact, I was impressed that nothing delved into a “Geoff is a slut” conversation.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 2, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
nothing delved into a "Geoff is a slut" conversation
It’s just implied anymore, isn’t it?
I'm kind of a dick.
But that’s still an improvement.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 2, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
How far they have come
In 1993, I saw Tampa Bay play the Montreal Canadiens in Tampa (the year the Habs went on to win the Cup with LeClair). The game was held in a temporary arena that was called a “fairgrounds”, the parking lot was a mud field, and throughout the entire game, you had to move your head to the left and to the right because the person in front of you was blocking the view of the ice. Tampa has come a long way since those mud lot days.
Lavy needs to work them today in practice until they throw up. Not an acceptable loss.
"All the experts come out, all the pundits come out with their opinions...the truth of the matter is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it" - George McPhee, General Manager, Washington Capitals.
I had forgotten they started in the Expo Hall while the Thunderdome was being re-done for hockey. That was a dinky little place – only about 10,000 seats in the arena, at the Florida State Fairgrounds. It was only a “temporary” arena in the sense of not being their permanent home, though – it’s really designed more as a conference center than a sports arena.
Bob.
Ha! That what it was called…thanks for that. I was returning from Spring Break in Miami and we stopped by to see a game. I still have a TB puck I bought that day but I lost the ticket. I’ll never forget seeing thousands of heads swaying left and right to see the game.
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