Thursday Morning Fly By: Travis Was Busy Yesterday
by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 6:00 AM EST
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Because I was thinking about writing something nearly exactly the same thing (there's never any time!), a fantastic story on how Braydon Coburn deserves a lot more attention for his great year: [delcotimes.com]
- Yet another great story on Andreas Nodl: [Daily News]
- Dan Carcillo is fighting for - and so far winning - his spot in the lineup: [Philly Sports Daily]
- The Flyers will have to be aware of the Hurricanes and their desperation: [CSNPhilly] [Philly Sports Daily] [Inquirer] [Frequent Flyers]
- Anthony SanFilippo on this being the only month television cares about hockey. A good rant: [delcotimes.com]
- Looking back on Brian Boucher and his rookie year: [Philadelphia Flyers]
- Andrei Popov had a goal and an assist against France yesterday: [euroflyers]
- Andreas Hadelov signed a 1 year extension, which isn't good news for his backup, Joacim Eriksson: [euroflyers]
- Tim's story on the Phantoms firing their VP of business operations: [PostStar.com]
- Quotes from the Phantoms owner on the decision: [PostStar.com]
- NHL Power Rankings for the week: [SB Nation Philly]
- Is BtN a curse, or do they just know what they're talking about? [Behind The Net]
- Tons of news around the League yesterday. Matt Cooke was suspended for four games: [SBNation.com]
- While not unbiased, arguing that the 4 game suspension wasn't enough: [The Cannon]
- Jeremy Roenick called Cooke "chicken shit", deserving of a 20 game suspension: [Puck Daddy]
- And a good 2-minute video of Matt Cooke cheap shots: [Deadspin]
- Alex Tanguay is out indefinitely with a "neck strain.": [Matchsticks and Gasoline]
- Anton Volchenkov was suspended three games: [SBNation.com]
- The Islanders lost another goalie: [Lighthouse Hockey]
- But they acquired Al Montoya (Michigan!) for a sixth round pick: [New York Islanders]
- Evgeni Malkin will undergo knee surgery and miss 6 months: [SBNation.com]
- Joffrey Lupul was traded to Toronto for Francois Beauchemin: [SBNation.com]
- The Panthers traded Michael Frolik and Alexander Salak to the Blackhawks for Jack Skille and others. Frolik is a guy I've always liked: [Litter Box Cats]
- Why he was traded in one chart. Hmm, wonder what this would look like for Andreas Nodl: [Behind the Net]
- Chris Drury will miss 6 weeks: [Blueshirt Banter]
- An open letter to Mike Milbury to go away: [SBNation.com]
- Did you know the NHL had a salary cap in the 1930s? [SBNation.com]
- Using zone starts to show how well players are at controlling the play. Two members of the Flyers fourth line appear, one positive, one negative: [Behind The Net]
- Lastly, Gabe asks who he should piss off next. In the comments, he cites one of my suggestions: [Behind The Net]
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wow, reading NJ’s In Lou We Trust about the Volchenkov elbow…doesn’t seem like they really know what they’re doing over there. they broke down the hit frame by frame which is nice but the hockey stuff they really don’t know. they say that because Boychuk’s half way down (his head elbow high to Volchenkov) and has his head down looking for the puck, he deserved the hit. also saying that because he didn’t have possession of the puck, it’s not interference. glad we have you guys that KNOW the game!
Trying to think of something funny to say to start the day
Ah yes, referring to last night’s penalty palooza. “You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2011 7:37 AM EST reply actions
Good old J.R. Always knows when to insert himself into a topic. He’s a lot like Curt Schilling, but funnier.
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In fairness, I think Curt actually believes what he says to be the truth.
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i only got to see the last 3ish minuets of the game…and i understand it was rather chippy the whole time. were they retaliating to something that happened earlier? i dont remember if there was something from a previous meeting that went down
"I'm not going to get into a he-said she-said with the refs....I'm the "he"" - Chris Pronger
Cool article from Seravalli regarding Shelley’s 5 rules for fighting. While arguments are made that fighting should be eliminated (which I don’t agree with) but there seems to be more sportsmanship in fighting than a knee-to-knee hit or a head shot.
"All the experts come out, all the pundits come out with their opinions...the truth of the matter is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it" - George McPhee, General Manager, Washington Capitals.
You don’t have to sell me. It is getting boring that almost daily there is outrage after another cheap shot hit by a punk. I say eliminate the instigator rule and let the guys control the their own safety on the ice. Suspensions are obviously not working. Getting punch in the face a dozen times might just do the trick.
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Yep and it also keeps retribution to just punches to the face not more dangerous borderline hits to the head or flying elbows.
Now the NHL are reviewing head shots on video after the fact, even when the refs on the ice didn’t call it. I think it was the Scott Nichol’s hit on Schlemko. I don’t like where this is going at all.
Players that take cheap shots should be prepared to get their face rearranged by someone like Shelley. And it’s no excuse if you aren’t a fighter or you’re a skilled player/goal scorer…you should pay the price on the ice.
"All the experts come out, all the pundits come out with their opinions...the truth of the matter is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it" - George McPhee, General Manager, Washington Capitals.
There is no question in my mind that the Panthers got worse after that trade. Short term and long term.
Mourning Gagne forever.
Agreed. Apparently, though, they had a ton of goaltending prospects, so Salak was expendable. Still, they wasted him and got nothing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
And Weiss.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Frankly, I would like to get everyone out of there and keep just one (the better one) Florida team… uhm.
I really just want Weiss and Vokoun, because they deserve a ton more respect and attention. They are fantastic players whom nobody recognizes.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you! Especially for Vokoun. I know nobody over here really watches the Worlds’ because the SC playoffs are going on during that time but he won the gold medal for us last year. He might be getting old but I believe he still belongs to the top goalies in the league.
Agreed. But yeah, nobody watches the Worlds.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Speak for yourself…though I only watch highlights. Unless I find it on the TV and remember to DVR it.
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Fair. But I think I speak for roughly 305,990,000 Americans.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Where are you getting this number? Didn’t the new census put us over 308? Are you implying that over 2mil Americans watch the Worlds?
Shit, was it 308 million? I thought it was 306.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
haha, I’m a West Wing fan and I don’t really think sampling is a good idea.
It’s unconstitutional!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
But what about all those black people we fractioned in the Constitution? Doesn’t that invalidate the whole document!?
Do you agree with me yet?
haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Last year Worlds were sick. The Russian team was pretty much the same as in the Olympics because none of them were in the playoffs anymore. And we had to face them with players from KHL and other European leagues. There were very few NHLers on our team. Yet we beat them and it felt fantastic. As always when Russians get beaten. Losers took their silver medals off… With the exception of Ovi. He kept his.
Shows how cocky he is, RIGHT?!
Wait, Ovi was proud of his silver medal and that shows how cocky he is?
That was sarcasm, right?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Cool.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
It probably was. haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
I love Vokoun, though I love most players out of Nashville…but yeah he deserves more than that team.
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So does Weiss.
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by Mike B on D on Feb 10, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Puck Daddy refers to the Hawks as being in panic mode but that’s the first time I’ve heard that. Given their cap problems I figured there was nothing much they could do about it. Surprised me. And kudos to Bowman for finding a way to dump Jessiman.
Duncan Keith spoke out and used some harsh language earlier in the week. I don’t think they are in panic mode, but they are definitely in “shake things up” mode. They have a good team, they are among the 3-6 in the West, but they just aren’t consistent.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blackhawks/post/_/id/4665876/angry-keith-says-power-play-not-problem
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
haha, thanks. And no problem.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I think they’re just remembering what hardship feels like? The team plays well when they’re on, but a lot of their star players aren’t producing with any regularity.
That’ll last a month…
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I liked that one joke on Family Guy where they showed Stewie at a Mets game, and you hear the announcer saying, “Welcome to opening day for your New York Mets! Here’s the first pitch! Aaaand the season’s over!”
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
They’ve trashed the Mets a lot on that show. Can’t say I don’t love it.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I always lose it when there’s an anti Mets joke. The one mikefive said is my favorite. Another honorable mention is the episode when Quahog gets invaded by New Yorkers and Peter is like “Look at all the trash these leafers left on our lawn: New York Magazine, The New York Post, the New York Mets.” Classic.
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Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Feb 10, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the one I was thinking of! Awesome sauce. Once Stewie seemingly made a joke about the Phillies, but it was really weird. It’s the future or something and he looks in the paper and says, “Hey, the Phillies won.” It’s weird.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Awesome links today
Figures it’s on a game day when we have a little more to talk about but still, super happy to have some good reading material.
Thanks Geoff.
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You are so kind. Thank you.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
FYI
I added more links. Nodl, Boucher, “Hockey Month”, Frolik…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 9:21 AM EST reply actions
I was going to provide a smart ass comment with the Nodl article, but I’ve realized there is no convincing some people. Plus I feel like you added it to just fuel the fire haha.
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Entirely why I did it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Plus I couldn’t follow it’s reference to the mythical concept of a role.
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Mythical concept of a role?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
STRAIGHT FROM THE COACHES MOUTH
[Nodl] hasn’t gotten the production that he’s looking for, or that we’re looking for, because we know he’s a skilled guy and can put the puck in the net," Laviolette said."
So please stop acting like Nodl isn’t supposed to score and is just out there to play defense please please please.
No crap he is supposed to score, everyone in the top 9 is expected to chip in goals to a certain degree, but he isn’t on the line to be the scoring threat. That argument is like saying car is supposed to get you from point A to point B, the problem is you fail to realize that different cars are built for different purposes.
So please stop ignoring role…with a cherry on top, because it does exist.
While Laviolette has noticed, Nodl has kept his same spot in the lineup because that’s not his only role. He plays with Richards to help shut down the NHL’s top lines on a nightly basis.
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And also none of that is spoken but the coach or quoted as attributed to Lavy. That is Franks opinion on my Nodl hasn’t been replaced at this point in the season. While that is probably true there are also no better options on the roster than NODL for that wing. Zherdev makes do many mistakes, Leino is cemented on the LBH line and then you have Nodl or Powe and Nodl has more offensive potential than Powe.
And there are no better options as of yet that would be available via trade right now either. I said I’d take an upgrade over him, but I also exist in the world of reality, where there currently aren’t upgrades to fill the role of that line.
Holy hell are you finally coming around?
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I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THE OPTIONS new names come out every god damn day.
Every name that gets thrown out there even by reporters that have some sources I assume immediately gets shoot down by ’WHY WOULD THEY TRADE HIM or that would never happen"
I can’t read GM’s minds. Frolik just got traded for pretty much nothing so you never know god damn it. RW is the weakest spot on the team and the only need I can find that is worthy of what is a really FUN part of the hockey season. The trade deadline.
But every time we mention a RW we have go through all this stupid shit all the god damn time because let’s just discuss the options and leave it at that. Even if they are somewhat unlikely to be traded who the hell knows. If the fit in the cap without moving anyone on the roster these potential trade options are worth discussing.
Especially since many people like myself don’t have a great knowledge of players in the West Conference and stuff like that. I rely on everyone else’s opinions.
Anyone on the Panthers could be traded, that ahs been obvious since Talon made it clear he isn’t opposed to blowing up the team.
All I ask is that before you blow on your Nodl has to be upgraded horn, have a good damn reasonable player or players to pick from. I don’t think that’s too much to ask, do your homework, pick from teams that aren’t in the hunt right now, and look at their rental players, see if they are an upgrade, then suggest. If you don’t have knowledge, do the homework, the information is literally out there at your figure tips. You comment on here enough to clearly have the time. So instead of arguing with me about this, go do the damn leg work…because I’m just as sick of this as you are.
All I ask is that you put in leg work instead of saying upgrade our 3rd line RW every god damn day.
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And then answer my question: Adding offense to that line requires Carter/Giroux to take the other team’s first line 13 minutes a game.
Is the “upgrade to Nodl” worth the decline in offensive options for CZG?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Though in fairness I think Chris wants someone on par defensively with Nodl, just scores more, or has a “better nose for the net”, or has a better level of “clutch-ness”. So the tough matchups would still go to that line.
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Just more depth really Don and I don’t want Nodl traded unless it brings someone young in return.
Eric Cole Richards Nodl is probably a better shutdown line that what he have with JVR up there and JVR-Carter-Giroux is just as solid on the 3rd line. Or Even Cole Carter Giroux getting a guy who can go get the puck on in corners on that line. Just another option NOT Carcillo is my real issue.
So you want depth not an upgrade? You totally switched gears on me.
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Upgrade yes and provide depth I still want Nodl on the team and in certain situations probably should get shifts with Richards in a shutdown role.
Nodl should and could also replace Z on the Carter line at tlmes as well since they also draw tough matchups. Especially late in games.
Who would you give up then? Forget what GMs may do, what would YOU do?
I’m not sure how you would keep Nodl AND get a depth player here without giving someone you don’t want up.
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If Bourdon wasn’t hurt (concussion), I’d consider moving him. Problem is, his value is almost nothing now. Same with Lehtivuori.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s partially my point. Nobody wants to give anyone up, but they want someone in return. We can’t afford to just bring in a depth guy. If you make a move, then make it. But just understand that someone will need to go.
Or a draft pick.
"In fact, it is probably safe to say, the statement "I am a hockey fan" is the same as "I hate gary bettman."- bfrank27
Yeah, we haven’t gotten that far.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
So really, you’re saying Nodl should replace Shelley/Carcillo (except when we need a heavyweight to “protect our skill players”) and we should be looking for someone else to play on the third line with JvR and Richards? I just want to make sure we’re all clear on your position, I’m not ready to take a position one way or the other until I have a look at who’s available.
Bob.
Carolina is ranked 11th in the EC Power Rankings.
Who is not in the hunt the Isles Devils Panthers??? Too hard to call right now but in two weeks I think we will know better and in two weeks Carolina, Calagary, PHX, could easily all be out of it.
West is tougher, East is pretty obvious for the most part. Florida down are sellers, despite the points. In the West it’s really just Edmonton for sure. So there you go. You can also goole players most likely to be traded, Keith Allen’s article should pop up, not sure how much you want to trust it, but it seems reasonable.
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Carolina is in 8th in the standings, 4 points up on 10th place Buffalo, who has two games in hand. Atlanta needs to gain 1 point with two fewer games left.
Carolina has 8th place to lose.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Oh and thanks for leaving out the second part of the quote you used…
“But his work ethic and his play in hard areas has been very good. Some guys, when they stop scoring, they stop going in those hard areas and stop working hard. He just needs to keep working.”
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That has nothing do with him not scoring everyone or defining his role or. expectations in terms of production.
The funny thing is, that quote pretty much answers why JVR got benched when he wasn’t producing, and why Nodl hasn’t been benched during his slump. If you read the whole thing in terms of the article it’s all about how Nodl is out there because he is expected to continue to do the other things well that he has been doing outside of scoring goals.
For instance being the go to winger for the hard match ups on the ice, taking the tough zone starts etc.
This has everything to do with you ignoring his role, or the entire concept of a players role on a line.
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Because NODL is a smart hockey player who doesn’t make mistakes and doesn’t hurt you even while he is not scoring or producing, especially compared to other options on the team, Zherdev and Powe.
That’s exactly what I freaking said yesterday…that his floor in a slump is better than JVR’s, because if both players are putting any points up, Nodl still brings defensive value to the table. And exactly why I said JVR has a higher ceiling, because he has more offensive talent than Nodl,a nd is the socring winger on the line.
Holy hell.
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I disagree with the idea that JVR wasn’t going in those hard areas and working hard during his rough patch.
I thought he looked lost out there during the rough patch. I thought his game fell apart a little and his forecheck didn’t look like it did in the preseason. But it’s too long ago for me to point to things specifically so I can’t really say for certain.
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You don’t have screenshots saved from earlier in the year proving he’s terrible?
It’s a very Mario D type day.
It’s just the impression that I got. With young players, as long as they are doing the right things, usually coaches stick with them. I just read his benching to verify that he wasn’t doing those little things right because it helped prove my point. I could be way off base, but it also seemed rationale since it agreed with what I remembered haha.
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Wow, Don with an unsubstantiated opinion based on visual evidence.
Bizzaro world.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
So please stop acting like Nodl isn’t supposed to score
Again, I never said that, I said his role on that line isn’t to be a scorer. That has nothing to do with him putting the puck in the net. I said earlier I expect him to be a 15 goal guy this year on that line, that’s where I still stand. He has stayed on that line because of his defense.
but go ahead and continue to ignore the obvious.
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Again, I never said that, I said his role on that line isn’t to be a scorer
If you didn’t directly I think Geoff has said it I am pretty sure Nodl isn’t supposed to score JVR is.
Geoff said that meaning that Nodl’s role on that line isn’t to be the scoring threat. You expect him to score, but not be the scorer, there’s a huge difference in those two terms that you aren’t grasping. JVR is the scoring winger who isn’t a horrible liability defensively, Nodl is the defensive winger who can pot in the occasional goal.
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On that line, Nodl’s role is not to score. I’ve yelled that at you plenty of times.
Do you really think I would say “Nodl is supposed to get 0 goals”?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
33% offensive zone start is pretty close to “We aren’t asking him to score”.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
So was JvR’s 4 goals in 27 games to start the season. Players get streaky, go through periods where they may or may not produce goals. But a player in the press box never produces goals.
Bob.
And a player on the fourth line never produces goals either.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Randy Jones is the Lightning’s best d-man, right?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, I wouldn’t say he’s the best but he definitely does a good job, especially on PK. Seriously, I can’t complain. He even has 11 points.
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Randy Jones is playing on the PK????
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s shocking. Jones sucks at defense.
And thanks. I wanted Elaine’s “Get. OUT!” but couldn’t find it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I personally wouldn’t say he sucks. But I don’t know his numbers… Speaking of numbers… where do you get the advanced stats of certain players?
Randy Jones is so good at defense that the entire team emulated his style against Buffalo the other night. And look how well that turned out.
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Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
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Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
One of the most common expressions from women.
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Possibly you should ask yourself what you’re doing to make women look at you like that, if that’s the case.
Ok – My fiance wants me to take off of work to go “Taste Testing” for the food for the wedding.
Uhhh – Its Chicken. I think I know what Chicken tastes like. I would rather work and make money. You go honey and taste the food, I will make the money for the wedding.
Then I get that look.
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Yeah, that’s a bad move. It’s being part of things that build up to the most important day of your lives…you just need to suck it up and deal with those things.
I’ve been well trained by my fiancee hahaha.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
Seriously. You are so whipped.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Just wait til it’s you in that situation, and you’re faced with the decision to either suck it up and make sure you like the food, or to have a fight because you don’t care or you don’t think it’s important. Perfectly rational people becomes completely irrational about these kinds of things.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
haha, oh I know. But right now, I can give Don shit. I’ll just be prepared to get it later, or stop talking to Don altogether.
I already get the “You WILL help pick out _.” from my girlfriend.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, you are so young and naive.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
I’m actually not. I’m just giving you shit.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
You should probably go, because if you don’t like it on the day of the wedding, it could be a big fight because she wanted you to go in the first place.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
How can you screw up Chicken ?
thats why everything else tastes like Chicken right ?
No I am paying for the wedding, so I need to make the money.
BOO-YA !
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You say that now, but trust me and DLJr, you’ll pay for it later.
Plus there are hundreds of ways to screw up chicken.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Players have streaks and slumps? IMPOSSIBLE. Chris tells me this cannot be done! Their performance at any given instant can be directly extrapolated to their entire life span!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
Nodl streaked in October November he is not slumping now he is just being what is his is my sentiment on Nodl.
what is his is
Is that some sort of aphorism? Or a treatise on What God Owns?
Yahweh – “I Am Who Am”
Yahweh’s Stuff – “What Is, His Is”
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Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
So you think his shooting % and point total in the last 25 games is his absolute ceiling?
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Is this the right room for an argument?
In the last 25 games, he has 2 goals on 40 shots. That’s a 5% shooting. And since he was a 2.9% shooter in his first 35 shots, clearly he’s a 3% shooter.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was just about to post exactly that, but with the addition that Shelley is a 4.9% career shooter and the question of whether Nodl is a contender for worst offensive player in the league.
haha, clearly Andreas Nodl is a contender for worst offensive player in the league.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
clearly Andreas Nodl is a contender for worst offensive player in the history of the league.
Fixed.
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Thanks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
In the first 19 games of this season, he scored 7 goals on 31 shots, or 22.6% of his shots.
But that was a hot streak. Clearly, his true shooting talent is between 3 and 5%.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Shooting percentage has nothing to do with scoring ability. And what about just general point production.
Nodl is averaging on 1.6 shots per game this season. He would have to average 15% shooting percentage for the a season to hit 20 goals in 82 GP.
At his career percentage of say 10% (9.2% actual value). He will score 13 goals in a full 82GP.
Shooting percentage has nothing to do with scoring ability.
Really? I mean, really?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
He’s so dreamy
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
And next year with G and Leino contracts I want to keep Nodl because we won’t have to luxury the loaded offense we do and can continue to put together at this deadline. Nodl is still young he might bloom later.
Regardless, given this, there is honestly no point for us to discuss Nodl anymore, because if you really feel he is that bad you aren;t going to listen to anything I have to say.
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Is this the right room for an argument?
Is 10G 25 pts that bad. For a top 9 guy maybe but he does bring plently of things to like. I wish he had more PK time but other than that he is fine utility player to have on the team.
So you think his shooting % and point total in the last 25 games is his absolute ceiling?
I was referring to that question, which is based on you saying:
Nodl streaked in October November he is not slumping now he is just being what is his is my sentiment on Nodl.
You’ve since gone on to say a smarter Asham, 25 point guy, and a guy that could still bloom.
So I have no clue what you think about him because you keep flip flopping.
You’re original statement implies that you don’t think this is a cold streak but rather a true representation of his talent. So if that’s how you feel, I would say me discussing him with you is pointless. If you have since changed your mind 2 more times in the past 10 minutes, and have a new opinion of him, feel free to be clear on what it is and share it.
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Is this the right room for an argument?
You’ve since gone on to say a smarter Asham, 25 point guy, and a guy that could still bloom.
So I have no clue what you think about him because you keep flip flopping.
I know, right? He sucks, he’s hit his limit on goals for the year, his career numbers are terrible, so he’ll never amount to anything, let’s demote him to the 4th line. But he’s better than Asham, could score more, and might get better in the future, so I like him and we should keep him around.
Now he’s just fucking with us.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
LOOK HERE IS IT.
NODL IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH OFFENSIVELY to polay with Richards Carter, Giroux or Briere as his center.
I like to surround my 80 pt centers with 40 pt wingers. That is it. That is my opinion of Nodl.
This year we can afford to upgrade that position with the cap it is the only need I can find if there is a need and we can afford to improve I would like to do so.
So Nodl is a 4th liner until 2014/15 when Giroux is an RFA…well he’ll be resigned…so then lets say 2015/16 when Briere is up. Because I know you are aware that Carter and Richards are locked up for basically ever. So Nodl is your 4th line winger for the next 4 full seasons after this one since those centers will all still be here.
Sounds like you feel like he’s at his absolute ceiling and he is currently playing on a line he shouldn’t be, good to know.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
How is skating alongside a 4th line center going to help his offensive productivity? You think he’ll “bloom” into a scorer while rotting down on the checking line? He’s young, and he needs to be next to talent to help spark his scoring. I think he can reach your precious 40 pt ideal if you give him the opportunity, but it’ll never happen sitting at the bottom of the roster. I certainly wouldn’t put him on the 1st or 2nd line while waiting for his epiphany, so how about the 3rd line? OH WAIT.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
January + February isn’t 25 games! STOP MAKING UP NUMBERS!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
My since 2011 was deemed a too small sample size so I went back more to Dec 3rd making it 25 games. Servalli went back to 27 games.
Yes, that is how he reads it all the time, which drives me up a god damn wall. It’s like f’ing absolutes in the most inane way possible.
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Is this the right room for an argument?
Don’t be stupid. All of the top 9 forwards (at least) are supposed to score goals. It’s a matter of whether their PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY is scoring goals or something else. In the case of JVR, it’s scoring goals. In the case of Nodl, it’s defense. We still want him to score goals, nobody is saying we don’t want him to ever score goals (despite your constant insistence that that is what we said), but we expect him to do more in terms of defense and the goals come when they come.
I am completely baffled how we have been talking about this for A FUCKING WEEK and you STILL don’t understand what we are saying. I don’t give a fucking rat’s ass if you agree, but from your responses you clearly still think we’re saying something completely different. Either that or you DO get what we mean and are purposely misrepresenting what we say to try to make our “opinion” sound stupid when compared to yours. Your call.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
Nodl isn’t supposed to score and is just out there to play defense please please please.
As someone who frankly doesn’t care about this argument, no one ever said this.
So what I took from the article is that Nodl needs to score more but works hard anyway. So exactly what I’ve been saying since I arrived. Great. I still think he’s better suited for the 4th line. EVERYBODY FREAK OUT.
Putting him on the 4th line is absolutely fine if you’ve got something better to put in his place on the 3rd line. Who’ve you got in mind who can play shutdown defense as well or better than Nodl and score more goals than Nodl and whom we can afford? Lay it on me.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
Since NODL is still on the team he can still play shutdown when needed. Nodl is also not that greatest shutdown winger where his defense can not be replace. I haven’t even mentioned that know fact that wingers don’t have nearly the defensive responsibilities that centers do. How much does Nodl actually contribute defensively?
Can’t really measure that number since he plays with Richards a pretty damn good shutdown center. To successfully replace Nodl they just a need a smart player who can skate. No turnover machines or lazy guys. You don’t need a selke nominee or anything.
hahahahaha
First it was “He’s alongside Richards because nobody else can play there”, now it’s “He’s there because of his defensive skill, but Richards is just carrying his ass.”
That whole “To successfully replace Nodl” paragraph described JVR. So good job. You’ve effectively neutralized Richards into saying that he doesn’t even need wingers to play defense, he just needs a bunch of Ville Leino’s on his wing and he can shut down the other team’s first lines.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
A) That’s not JVR. That’s sophomore season JVR.
B) The fact that JVR hasn’t stuck on Richards’ wing should be enough to prove that two JVR’s would not be an improvement.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
OK, but now you need someone at Richards’ side for defensive zone faceoffs, because JvR’s not there as often. Richards has 273 Dzone faceoffs this year that he’s been on ice for. Nodl has 198. JvR has 158. Van Riemsdyk is the most sheltered forward not named Briere, Leino, or Hartnell, meaning that he’s not trusted defensively. You’ve just taken the shutdown line and scrapped it, so now the shutdown line will be Shelley-Betts-Powe. Yeah, we’re boned.
Bob.
JVR is often replaced for DZONE draws in favor of another center to take draws not because he can’t play defense. Carter is out there at times or Giroux someone that doesn’t mean JVR can’t play defense. It means it isn’t as good as Nodl and he can’t help the faceoff circle.
It means it isn’t as good as Nodl and he can’t help the faceoff circle.
I’ll agree with this. But his point remains: Two JVRs means you don’t have a shutdown line. In fact, as you point out, it means that you are losing an entire line because you then are just double-shifting Richards with another line. So you are advocating for two players who have to get yanked on defensive zone faceoffs. That’s not using four lines. That’s having 3 PP units.
Or, as some call it, “The Washington Capitals”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t play Richards more you play his not as good defensively wingers less depending on the game situation or the team. Some teams don’t have a line you really need to shutdown. Like Buffalo Atlanta just Pittsburg Washington and some teams out West.
Unless I’m mistaking you, you’re advocating a roster decision that caters to beating the teams we already have no trouble beating?
I am advocating a Roster decision that helps us beat 90% of the teams in the league and if Nodl is still on the Roster you can adjust the lineup if we draw one of those teams in the playoffs.
This doesn’t change my feelings, seeing as we’re already in the top 10 percentile. We need to advocate roster policies that help us most against Pittsburgh, Boston, Tampa, Vancouver, and Detroit.
And yes, I realized that’s more like the top 20%.
I not sure what you can do to improve against those teams Pittsburgh hasn’t been that hard this season and without Malkin I don’t know if I am overly worried about them.
Make a deal to build injury depth, upgrade Powe for a better PK specialist forward, or get a big winger net presence to improve the PP?
Either way who do you replace up front on the regular lines with any of those replacements. It still comes down to Zherdev and Nodl as the most likely to be moved down in the lineup to accommodate any roster addition up front.
So who do you replace those wingers with? Your choices are:
Leino and Hartnell (#13 and #11 in DZone)
Zherdev and Powe (#8 and #4 in Dzone)
Shelley and Carcillo (#3 and #2 in Dzone)
If you replace Nod, unless you want to have a defensive liability on Richards’ wing for defensive draws, you’re looking at Powe and either Shelley or Carcillo. Thank you, but I’d rather keep Nodl.
Bob.
Great Topics ! Where do I start ?
First Mike Milbury – Either tone it down or yes go away.
Second – LOVE IT ! JR calling Cooke “Chicken Shit” ! That rocks ! “so uh,, .. tell me Mr. Roenick, how do you really feel?”
What the Islanders are going thru was what we went thru last year only in extreme measures with the goalie changes.
I hope that Lupul is able to reclaim himself as an established NHL everyday player. That is a rare Medical condition that he had and I hope the best for him, Just not against the FLYERS.
I would like to see more of a “Controlled” Carcillo in the lineup how about you guys?
Frolik should thrive in Chicago. I always liked him and felt that he was a good player on a sub .500 team.
I hope Chris Drury heals but it wont affect NY Rangers that much as they have been fine most of the season without him.
HOWEVER – Malkin being out is BIG TIME NEWS for Pittsburgh, will they go and get someone before the trade deadline ? It appears to me that they almost “have to” because of the heavy reliance on Gino to be a large part of the Penguins offense. (excuse me Offence for you Canucks). LOL
Cobourn is one of those players that if he is playing well and playing his game, You dont really notice him. Its when he plays poorly and gives up a breakaway that results in a go ahead goal that you notice him. so the more Invisible Cobourn appears to be, the more he is on top of his game – that is – IMHO.
Well all – we made it thru the 4 day boredom. tonight – lets kick some Hurricane butt so I can tease the CEO of my Organization !
LETS GO FLYERS !
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It is all about expectations with Coburn. He is really good top pairing defensive Dmen but with the way he skates his offensive expectations were way too high. He is not going to be a 50 pt double digit goal D-Man and that is more than fine. Last year he had some really bad luck early on with pucks hitting him and going in the net but he has really turned it around. I wonder if the contract year pressure had anything to do with some of his struggles last year.
My only concern is can he carry a pairing. He plays with Kimmo and Kimmo made Ryan Parent look like an NHL regular. I think Coburn as he continues to develop will be more than fine as his confidence grows. I think next year he might be playing with another partner as I would like to put our AHL promoted player with Kimmo to develop him during the regular season.
I prefer only giving Milbury the option to “go away”.
Actually, scratch that. The second option would be, “go away and take Pierre McGuire with you”.
If Crosby can come back healthy the Pens will still be dangerous. Their wingers are getting experience and confidence, and I’m afraid Staal is going to be very good getting Malkin’s ice time. They’ll lack the depth they had, sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them get an Arnott or a good winger or some such at the deadline. They’ll still be a handful.
JVR wanted 20 games for that Cooke hit. Just for the record as anyone come close to in recent years to what Downie received for his hit on McAmmond. Downie got 25 games has anyone even come close in recent years. I don’t remember much breaking 5 games or even 4. It really goes to show you that Downie was really made an example of and that suspension if it still holds the record for longest non-stick related suspension in NHL history was completely unjustified.
JR, not JVR. (Unless Roenick’s middle initial happens to be V, that would be weird…) ;-)
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_in_ice_hockey#Longest_suspensions
Chris Simon once stick related and once non stick related.
and out own Jesse Boulerice.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
Great link thanks.
Only Chris Simons two suspensions, Downie and Boulerice have broken the 10 game mark since the lockout. That is in over 4 years nothing has come up that is even 1/2 as worse as what Downie did. Seriously BS.
Non-stick related suspension, but not for on-ice behavior, is this:
http://nyrangerslegends.blogspot.com/2006/09/don-murdoch.html
What were the names I threw out there? I feel like he was one of them.
I would gladly contribute to a site like that, I just don’t know where to find the stupid articles to destroy.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
(Besides the Philadelphia Inquirer)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
What are the Odds that the Penguins all of the sudden try to Wooo Billy Guerin out of retirement ?
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we’ve seen the return of forsberg and emery, why not guerin?
by hbcivicsi93 on Feb 10, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Foppa needs to stay retired. He is tarnishing his Image. Emery I wish him all the best. Guerin ? I still think he has gas left in the tank and there is no spot on FLYERS for him but Penguins may be severely desperate.
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Puck Daddy?
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
They don’t actually write much any more. And when they do, it’s fairly good.
Unless you mean Bourne, but he’s the best hockey writer ever. If you want to understand hockey, you read him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know—I’ve seen a crappy piece or two here and there. And I don’t mean Bourne. He writes well, even if he does get a little too preachy from time to time.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Yeah, they’re definitely there. But either they have gotten better recently, or I’ve stopped reading them. haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Unless you mean Bourne, but he’s the best hockey writer ever. If you want to understand hockey, you read him.
Mario? Is that you?
I agree that Bourne is good, but Mario said almost the exact same thing about a month after Bourne started contributing over there.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
That’s what I was going for. Total sarcasm.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
WaPo has had some humdingers. Bet you could find a few there.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I guess I could also just read Adrian Dater.
But if there’s a way to get crappy writing in my RSS feed, I’d be very inclined to start a site up like that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
I’m fairly certain that most major non-Canadian newspapers will have some hockey writers that may not know their stuff quite like they need to…LA Times? I remember some bad stuff around the SCF last year, too.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
FirePierreMcGuire
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Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 10, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
FireColinCampbell
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I’d rather FireTomMcCarthy
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I can get behind this.
Reading that Franzke was re-signed might have been the best part of my day yesterday.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I heard him doing a college basketball game and he was pretty good. He’s good in play-by-play situations where one can talk more. That said, baseball wants more “quiet” from the announcers to match the pace of the game, and McCarthy can’t shut up… especially when it comes to being “safe and secure at second base with New York Life.”
Tee-Maq needs to be on a long drive, outta heeeere.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Problem is, the kids today, like that sort of announcer. I was talking to some of the younger generation (Yankees fans, blah) and they said they didn’t like Kalas and the like because of too much “dead air”. Of course, the Yankees dudes are terrible and yak constantly. They gotta cater to the casual fan. It’s a tough line to walk.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
“kids these days”.
For me, it’s not about walking the line, it’s about Franzke being much better than TMac.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
They like that Yankees clown who says “SEE yuh!” when someone hits a homer?
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I can get behind this.
Reading that Franzke was re-signed might have been the best part of my day yesterday.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I can get behind double-posting.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
is that even a double-post? I see nothing.
It wasn’t posting, so I hit cancel, and then this shows up later. Ugh.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Actually neither of them bother me. I just know Wheeler is very disiiked. I am fortunate to be relatively immune to Sports Broadcaster Annoyance Syndrome. Only one guy really does it for me and that cuz he reminds me of Guy Smiley who apparently caused me to run out of the room and throw a fit every time he came Seasme St. – Steve Phiilips.
Yeah, if Guy Smiley was a completely inept GM who liked to sexually harass interns.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Beside the Count who else on that crew would qualify as a a bad sexually harassing manager. It aint Bert or Ernie, that’s for damn sure.
/zzzzzzzzzzzz…….
/zzzzzzzzzzzz…….
/zzz*snorts*scratchescrotch
/wakes up
huh? is it thursday? HOLY F$%K THE FLYERS FINALLY PLAY A GAME
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Better Topic
Getzlaf hits on Hamhuis.
This is a really tough one to judge. What does everyone think about it?
Unlike Vansteel here is the link.
Yeah I saw it, Hamhuis turned his shoulder after Getz had him lined, but Getz probably could have just skated by him instead of hitting him. It’s tough. Getz is one of my favorite players so I don’t think my opinion can be trusted as honest.
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Is this the right room for an argument?
My problem was he hit Hamhuis kinda high up if he hits him lower Hamhuis head doesn’t go into the glass. Hamhuis didn’t really brace himself well for the impact either.
It seems like the force of the blow almost spun Hamhuis into the boards. It is hard to call because it just looks like Getzlaf is finishing a check and there doesn’t seem to be any malicious intent, unlike with Cooke.
Honestly, if Getzlaf was suspended, I wouldn’t be surprised but if he wasn’t, I also wouldn’t be surprised.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, kvetch kvetch kvetch. Right-click and select “open in new window” or “open in new tab.” Sheesh, it’s not rocket science.
:P
Bob.
Katie can you make one your video gifs with you attempting to do the above that still shot isn’t that cool.
Bob article on THN
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Joffrey Loophole
Clarke Mcarthur just txt me saying “I’m gonna feed u so many one-timers ur gonna need off-season shoulder surgery”. Hillarious. I’m excited.
Have fun missin’ the playoffs!
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Think they’ll make it? It would take a miracle!
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Who in the NHL would be Humperdinck? Crosby?
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Malkin could be Fezzik.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
So you’re saying he can dog-paddle?
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Anybody want a peanut?
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I don’t even know what statistical basis we could use to say we are the fifth best in the East. I don’t even know what teams we’d use. Boston, Pittsburgh…Washington? Tampa? Florida?
Also, if this can actually be done, isn’t it an example of stats failing us?
Ability to outshoot their opponents at even-strength with the score tied would probably be the starting point.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
That sample size is minuscule, because we’re always winning?
I don’t know how to find that info (i.e. which site it’s on), but JLikens had us second in the league at adjusted Fenwick and Corsi at Christmas (even strength events with a close score, with some SOS factored in).
Yeah, I’m not sure. Which is why I kind of what to see him do it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, here’s the most recent stuff I could find: http://objectivenhl.blogspot.com/2011/01/even-strength-outshooting-and-team.html
Pitt is ahead of us in most Corsi and Fenwick EV measures, with Tampa around the same numbers we have. No one else is that close.
Could he doc the Flyers versus other teams because of shooting % etc, and just in general performing above expectation to the point you would argue it might not be sustainable? Like Bob’s ESS% etc?
Just thinking out loud and not doing any of the work/
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Is this the right room for an argument?
I think this all goes into it. There’s that commenter who has some sort of number (12%) citing the Flyers as most likely “to fall”.
I have no idea.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose. I’m certainly not doing that work.
And I’m still unsure what teams Geoff thinks would jump us, by the numbers. Pittsburgh would easily, Tampa could very likely, but who does that leave? Boston and Washington? I feel like any measure of unsustainable play that hurts us would hurt Boston, as well.
Oh, I’m not saying they’re 5th.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Then wouldn’t he be using statistics poorly if his goal was to prove that they are? Or did you just want him to poo in our best-team-in-the-East cereal to see how everyone reacted?
I would have no idea what stats he uses, so he may convince me. But I’m not saying it now because I don’t have that data to make that argument.
But yeah, I kind of do want to see him poo in our cereal. BSH is probably one of the most accepting sites of advanced stats outside of Canadian teams, but nobody has stirred the pot with the Flyers yet. Japers’ is pretty accepting, but when their team got shat on, they went crazy.
Consider it a test.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Right, I said it was a starting point.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Cooke
This dude is a piece of shit. Yes, we’ve known this for a while, but someone needs to step up and lay this guy out for the good of everyone in the league. If anyone deserved the Jesse Boulerice memorial crosscheck to the face its Cooke
The worst part of this is that his out-of-control, selfish play puts the rest of his teammates at risk for retaliation hits. If I were playing against the Pens and Cooke cheap-shotted one of my teammates, I wouldn’t bother looking for Cooke — I’d hunt down Staal or Martin.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
He very well may have ended Savard’s career. There’s just no place for shit like that. He has no respect for guys’ health. Someone needs to put him down asap
by aPHILLYated on Feb 10, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Wishing an injury on a player (no matter what player) makes you just as disrespectful as you claim Cooke to be.
by Katchis on Feb 10, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately, it seems Cooke delights in injuring opponents. Same as Avery. They both seem to care more about who (or how many players) they injure than whether their team wins.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Even though I’m not a fan of either player and wish neither were playing in this league I simply cannot support this way of thinking.
I’m not saying I support injuring a player on purpose — I’m just pointing out the fact that if Cooke or Avery are on the ice, they are likely to try to intentionally injure players if the opportunity arises. I believe you agree with that, too.
Anyone who attempts to injure another player on purpose has no business playing professional hockey. Unfortunately, it will take a catastrophic injury to make the league take notice of players like Avery and Cooke.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
As I said, I’m not defending their style of play and I wish they were not in the league. My whole point is that claiming things like,
someone needs to step up and lay this guy out
or
If anyone deserved the Jesse Boulerice memorial crosscheck to the face its Cooke.
is just as wrong.
Point taken. I think we both wish hockey players would just play hockey.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
I dunno, maybe I have misplaced rage issues, but part of me just feels that I’d be happy if Matt Cooke got paralyzed on the ice and wound up eating the rest of his meals through a straw.
I think I might need to discuss this with my analyst/therapist.
It goes back to the reality of the situation — when a guy like Avery or Cooke is on the ice, someone is going to be targeted for injury. It’s easy to think the simplest solution is to get a guy like Avery or Cooke off the ice anyway possible. It’s certainly not respectful to think like that, but there’s no denying that the players’ safety is jeopardized when the antics of Avery and Cooke are seemingly tolerated by the league.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Analyst/therapist? Anal-rapist?
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by LeepinLizardz on Feb 10, 2011 10:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow
I didn’t realize Lupul was making 4.25 mil per against the cap. And for two years after this too. Thats ludicrous
Wow is...
The real stunner is that he was traded and PRONGER was not part of the deal!
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What can't Giroux do?
No, it’s there.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Is that Karlsson? Why the hell does G want his signature?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
It’s his sexy, comehither look.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
It’s a look that says: “Teehee, I’m better than this guy but I’m getting his autograph anyway! How delightful!”
That said, I like Karlsson.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
It would work if he had the voice of an effete English aristocrat.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
“The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain”
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
My friends and I were doing this during the Super Bowl. We were imagining that the Packers should have such an aristocrat as a coach on their sidelines.
“I say, I mean not to give ORDERS, for it certainly is not my PLACE… but may I suggest you RRRRUN the ball? Not a command, mind you, MERELY a SUGGESTION, mmm?”
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
In artford, ereford and ampshire, urricanes ardly ever appen.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
This works, because I’m pretty sure the ‘h’ at the beginning of a french word is silent.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
French pronunciation scares me. It does not resemble in any fashion what it looks like on paper.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
Haha, I know. I’m trying to learn it and it’s taking forever.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
English did steal a large number of words from French, that certainly doesn’t help.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
And German.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
And Greek, Latin (and its derivatives such as Italian and Spanish), etc
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
True. But I think French has the most, I’ve seen crazy estimates of the number of words borrowed from or derived from French, as high as 25%-30% of our words. It may not really be that high, but it’s a lot.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
English is the result of Norman soldiers trying to pick up Anglo-Saxon barmaids, and is about as legitimate as the results of those attempts.
Bob.
The Predators have acquired Mike Fisher from Ottawa for a first round pick and a conditional pick.
I’m not late on this, am I?
I don’t know why, though. She’s gorgeous but her music is not very good. I like country, too.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I like country, but I like old country. I like Hank Williams.
I also like alt-country, but that doesn’t count… even though iTunes identifies Uncle Tupelo as “Country.”
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
This discussion reminds me of the line from the Blues Brothers movie; “we’ve got both kinds of music, country and western”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
Sarauj, Latvija!
I like all kinds of country—bluegrass, alt, old—love Mary Chapin Carpenter, too.
Big thing with me is that the voice has to be really good and strong or the music has to be awesome. Carrie has pretty weak voice live. The music is fairly bland pop country.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Ask Shania. I think she lives in Switzerland.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Well she Canadian. I don’t believe Underwood is. Nashville is the home of the Grand Ole Opry. It’s country music nirvana.
I was just giving the flipside argument.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Patti LaBelle lives in Philly. I guess I’m saying is that you don’t have to live there to be successful.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
So what you never heard of the Philadelphia Sound sista. Scroll down the in the notable artists section. You’ll see LaBelle’s name there. I grew up on that music. It’s not so much about success as it is about being apart of a larger extended musical family. Alot of underground music scenes are like this. Or think Motown for R&B. Chicago or St. Louis for the Blues. That’s what Nashville is for C&W music,
I have. I’m just saying LaBelle became a huge star even though she lives here.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
The Hooters had a good run back in the 80s/90s, and they stayed in Philly. On the other hand, Hall and Oates left for NYC quickly upon becoming popular.
Sarauj, Latvija!
This is like I was saying below – the biggest stars from Philly have to do with The Philadelphia Sound. Patti LaBelle, Gamble and Huff, and their blue-eyed counterparts, Hall and Oates.
Lots of others who made a splash in some way didn’t have the same lasting popularity – TDM, the Hooters, Robert Hazzard… more recently, bands like Marah, Dr. Dog, The War On Drugs…
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He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
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That’s because The Philadelphia Sound is really the only popular music idiom here that makes Philly stand out from other cities.
Other artists here have had their moments of fame, but due to the fact that they don’t do anything unique, they tend to fall back on their cult followings.
Except The Dead Milkmen. They’re the exception to the rule. See if Rodney Linderman will “friend” you on Facebook and be prepared to laugh heartily.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
There was a small but active punk scene in Philly in the 80s. I remember seeing local bands like Ruin, YDI, McRad and others around town. Plus,WXPN (when they were still at 88.9) had an awesome punk DJ named “Eddie Hacksaw” back in the day. Good memories.
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F.O.D.? They’re still around I think.
As for XPN, The Dead Milkmen to the witness stand:
I hate what they done to XPN
Those folk Nazis ruined my favorite station
I hate what they done to XPN
If you hear it now it’s just a pale immitation
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I assume this is long out of print, but this was the definitive Philly album of active punk/hardcore bands back in the 80s. I probably have the vinyl kicking around in my basement somewhere. This got extensive play on my turntable in high school.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Get-Off-My-Back-Philly-Hardcore-Compilation/release/729858
Sarauj, Latvija!
Flag of Democracy was from Philly. Half the problem was unlike DC where I live for awhile, they could have all ages shows in bars. I don’t think that was allowed in alot of the clubs.
I remember another local band I liked way back when: Executive Slacks. Are those guys still around? I first heard them on the old WXPN on a great show they used to have called “Yesterday’s Now Music Today”. Since the Internet was nothing more than a dream back then, the only way to hear decent alternative music was to tune into WXPN or WKDU.
Sarauj, Latvija!
No, they used to do them on South Street. I saw several punk bands and the Dead Milkmen at an all ages show. They just never caught on here much.
Rodney was a riot to meet. The Dead Milkmen were possibly the funniest group of guys I’ve ever run across.
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My old band’s final gig was at a pretty cool punk house (Disgraceland) in the heart of Cambodian South Philly… Good folks there, but in other places not so much.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I always enjoyed the punk scene in Philly. Great bands always came through.
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Is this the right room for an argument?
Great bands coming thru is one thing but no ever speaks of the Philly underground music scene the way they do of Chicago, Madison DC, San Fran., Seattle, NY. Even Louiville gets more distinction. I don’t know why but it just never has yielded much in the way of underground music. There was and maybe still is a great label for experimental noise stuff here – Siltbreeze Records. New Zealand bands like the Dead C., Gate and Thela were on Siltbreeze.
I guess, but to say the scene here sucks is to say it only sucks because it doesn’t get recognition. I was always happy because all my favorite bands came down here. If they came down ere because it was between NYC and DC, I don’t care, I still got to see them. To me, that makes it have a good scene.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
Good bands always come here, and are always well-received.
I always thought that Philadelphia was a bit of a “follower” when it comes to that stuff. If a “good” artist from somewhere else gets established, chances are that artist will develop a following here. But artists who come FROM here generally have to relocate before they get noticed here.
To this end, Brian McTear told me years ago that if I ever wanted to get noticed, I should go play in New York and DC.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I have no problem with that.
When I hear scene I just think of the whole thing, not just bands that can be successful in a city. There are far worse cities to live in for being a fan of punk.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
There are far worse cities to live in for being a fan of punk.
I’m going to make the crazy assumption that you’ll never live in Burlington, VT.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I had a good friend from Des Moines growing up. I was glad I didn’t live there.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
Is there a Des Moines Sound that I should or shouldn’t know about?
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Husking of corn. Lots and lots of corn.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Well, “The Faint” are a pretty cool band and they hail from Omaha. That’s sorta kinda near Des Moines.
Sarauj, Latvija!
Except for Springsteen and Joel, of course, who’s initial following ballooned here before anywhere else (and they weren’t from here, but NY, so there’s a caveat, I s’pose)
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
You could probably say the same about The Grateful Dead, in terms of them becoming more than an underground band. They used to play at the Spectrum back in the 1970s, but I think back then they really didn’t play in places bigger than the Tower Theatre (if they were lucky).
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Your missing the point. It’s about fostering bands and the punk ethos in creating music. It doesn’t thrive here. Why I don’t know but that’s the way it is. It’s like an extended family or creative community and it often included the other arts as well. It’s like how alot of you guys are connected with the Flyers organization – it’s more than just a bunch of fans. In fact BSH – the blog, the radio show, Mikefive’s song and KD designs is vey much in the spirit of the punk ethos. I don’t see that as much with underground music. Never have.
You are correct. Punk music from its beginnings was about the attitude of doing it yourself and not necessarily following the model of how it’s been done before. Unfortunately, once big records companies got involved that got lost and punk became nothing more than a “sound” which was really missing the whole point.
Sarauj, Latvija!
It’s like an extended family or creative community and it often included the other arts as well.
In fact BSH – the blog, the radio show, Mikefive’s song and KD designs is vey much in the spirit of the punk ethos. I don’t see that as much with underground music. Never have.
I guess I always had this as part of the scene I experience here as a youth. It was excellent, maybe we just grew up in different generations, or experience different circles, or my standards just aren’t as high.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
I wasn’t part of that scene so I can only judge it from the outside. It has nothing to do about standards. It’s about production – hardly anything came out of here and in the end all you have are the records. Their just isn’t enough for anyone from the outside to say that Philly had a thriving punk scene at least not on the level of the other places I described.
For me, I’ll always have the memory of playing shows with friends, and going to friends shows. Most of us never recorded anything, but a lack of recordings doesn’t make my memory or the events evaporate. It was a great time of my life, and the scene was great. As I got older, the scene split up a lot (Ignite Embrace anyone, they knew what was up), and it seemed different, not organic, and completely fractured.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
I think both POV’s are valid. I fall somewhere in between. I’ve been to a lot of great shows over the years in Philadelphia. But I’ve always felt a connection to the music and not to the audience… aside from “Hey, we all like the same band!” That’s good and everything, but what real sense of community comes from that? When I hear people saying stuff like, “I’m one of two REAL skinheads in Philly!” I’m not hearing any semblance of community.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
But I don’t bade is on records…and I’m not just talking about going to shows. It was playing shows, and going to friends shows. A lot of us never really recorded anything, we would just make friends with each other and visiting bands, and hoped to get put on as an opening for someone. I just don’t believe in basing a scene by success. I feel like we fostered each others creativity, we just never saw music as our life long pursuit.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
In fact BSH – the blog, the radio show, Mikefive’s song and KD designs is vey much in the spirit of the punk ethos.
Yes it is… which is precisely why I’m wary of the inevitable day that SBNation gets purchased and the blogs start becoming staffed.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Stanley Clarke.
I miss Ortleib’s terribly.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Wow. Been 25 years or so since I drank one of those. My grandfather and his cronies used to have that all the time.
“Try Joe’s Beer” My little Italian grandmother used to like beer and they always had a case of Ortlieb’s in the basement.
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a case of Ortlieb’s in the basement.
That’s a trip in the way-back machine for me. My mother was a tea totaler but always had a case in the basement for their visits.
I’m not saying she shouldn’t. I’m just not sure much actual clout she’d have in a business deal between two hockey organizations. It’s not like he signed there.
Er, update;
He had a limited NTC, so I’m guessing she might have had a little hand.
I just had a random thought. What if she was a factor, but it wasn’t her idea…. What if the factor was her?
In Nashville, married to a Nashville player.. Nashville’s owners/management now knows she’ll be at all their games, and maybe they want to take advantage of that fact?
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I think there was one months ago about them having a fight over whether to live in Nashville or Ottawa, and that was back before the season started.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
So, basically, Mike Fisher just got traded to a better team with less media pressure, made his wife happy, and is still overpaid?
Good day for him.
I knew it was a hockey site I had seen the story on, but it was a hockey blog citing a tabloid article. Back in August:
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/20/tempers-flare-between-carrie-underwood-mike-fisher-as-couple-squabbles-over-living-situation/
Grain of salt, or several, as always with a tabloid article, but it’s funny to look back at it now.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
This is awful.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t believe they gave up a 1st.
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It will likely be a 18-23th overall pick, but still. Those are valuable. Mike Fisher is… not.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I think an early 2nd is pushing it for Fischer, just my opinion.
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And to think we all bust Homer’s stones for some of his deals. Is it all about Carrie or a salary dump or what?
I think the salary actually helps Nashville, because they are only paying $7mil for the next two season, like Snevik says, but get credit for the $4.2mil cap hit to keep them above the cap floor.
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Is Nashville in danger of the cap floor? There are 9 teams with more cap space than them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
This helps. And yes depending on what happens next year, if the cap goes up enough.
There were only 5 teams below them when Fischer wasn’t on the roster.
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Eh. There are better ways to spend money. Poile knows that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree, I’m just trying to justify it anyway I can because I love Polie.
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Poile is generally a superb GM. This one, and Tallon’s yesterday, leave me scratching my head.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
This. Looks like this year’s deadline deals will be wackier than usual. I was just reading how the Rangers scouted Souray and felt he would be a liability to them even at the AHL level.
That’s insane. Souray AND Redden?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
It was about the Rangers looking for help on the power play and scouting Souray. Found him to be so slow, even for AHL standards, to be of any use. I’m guessing that if Glen Sather felt desparate, scouted you and said “no way!”, then your NHL career is over.
Yeah, I think that’s the final nail.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, so do I.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
With the West being so tight…it’s simple supply and demand. Teams are going to have to pay more this deadline than in years past.
by IG on Feb 10, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
There’s a lot out there, that are both better talent, and a better contract. I don’t think this is a supply and demand move.
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I don’t think we’ll know that until it all pans out. Maybe those players are traded for even more.
One thing I do know is that the Devils fucked up by trading Langenbrunner so soon. They definitely could have gotten more for him…
by IG on Feb 10, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
You are saying this based on 3 trades. You just said we need to wait and see how it pans out, so you can’t say these are the right payments and Jamie’s was the wrong one. If you want to wait and see how it pans out, then you just have 3 separate trades.
At any rate, a non rental player that has a bad contract for his talent level, is in general, not worth a 1st rounder.
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Well, he has two years left after this where Nashville only has to play 7 million total on a 4.2 cap hit.
That is awful. So very, very awful.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
The Predators have acquired any semblance of Ottawa’s depth in exchange for players to be named later.
Time to rebuild! So much for “at least two” Stanly Kupz!
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Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
And as for Nashville, it was too much for said depth.
Unless they know something about Mike Fisher that we don’t…
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Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Excellent pickup for them. I really like Fisher. Glad he went there and not to the Caps
Mourning Gagne forever.
haha, oops
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
By the way, the conditional pick?
The extra pick is the 2012 3rd-rounder if the Preds win one playoff round this spring, or the 2nd-rounder if they win 2 or more rounds.
Is this Poile finally getting desperate? How telling is it that Nashville is pegging this deal on finally doing something in the playoffs?
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Well friends for this Thursday’s Philadelphia Diet installment I am sitting down and partaking in a fine Cheesesteak. Todays fare is a special little bugger called a Black and Tan from a small underrated Conshy joint named Franks & Edie’s. A black and tan is a combo chicken and beef steak with american cheese and fried onions. For my second course I have gone off the beaten path with a coconut cream pie from Tastykake, as if there is anyone else. Umm, Umm Good!
Just Call Me "M"!
Do you work in the trades? Cuz I’ve only met guys with that kinda intenstinal fortitude on job sites or in fab. shops.
I got a cheesesteak from the deli in my office building. It’s not bad, but still nothing compared to the real thing from Philly. I might ask them to try American cheese instead of Provolone next time…it would be more gooey and less stringy, I think that would help.
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OT: what my day was like
And why I am so ready for the game.
Electrons plus electron multiplier = crapload of electrons.
Chemistry instruments are fucking expensive.
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Haha
No, it’s my only non-chemistry class this semester. I needed one more Honors class to finish the 5 required by the Honors program and I picked this one on gender and the military and US foreign policy.
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Goddammit, I hate grad school. Over 300 comments by the time I got here, and during my first pass there must be like 50 more. Back to the top!
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haha It’s tough being popular.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I feel the same way. I am in Spain so the Fly-Bys come up at noon here so I usually check it out, and read the links but there are obviously no comments so there isn’t much to talk about. Then I come back and check it later and I missed 300 comments and yet another Nodl argument! Urgh!
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
The Nodl argument seems to still be occurring…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Am I dreaming, or did it really start at least a week ago?
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It really did.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Actually? Not any more.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Me neither no fun.
Versteeg is surprising rumored to be on the block anyone okay with trading Zherdev for him??
I don’t know if Zherdev would get him, and it puts us in a crunch with Leino. but I certainly like him. He’s doing pretty well relative to his teammates, despite getting harder than usual competition and pretty terrible luck.
He is a perfect Richards RW but yeah the cap crunch will be on with another 3 million dollar player. I am really surprised Toronto is willing to trade him as he is young and should be part of their future.
It’s a lot of places, not just Eklund.
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Even The Toronto Globe & Mail asked him about it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I like Versteeg. But I don’t see him coming here because he’s a) expensive; b) young on a rebuilding team; and c) requires a lot in a trade.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Other name that also caught my eye on Eklund’s list was Handzus from LAK he is also making too much money this year to reasonably fit unless we trade them Carcillo.
I always like Handzus he played wing for us some before improves the faceoffs dramatically UFA at the end of year. Plays against top guys a lot 2nd on LAK in qualcomp with a 0.033?
LA should make the playoffs though. And they will most certainly be buyers, even if they don’t end up making the playoffs.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Do they value Handzsus his 4 million dollar hit for his 20 pts could be used elsewhere to fill a bigger need?
They can acquire Weiss with only draft picks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
They’ve already got $3 million in cap space. So they are in the same position as the Flyers. They aren’t going to subtract before adding.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
It’s he’s like the Valdez of BSH but the opposite – we had to constantly explain that Valdez isn’t better than Rollins.
The argument sometimes was that 100% Valdez was better than a 45% Rollins.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 10, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Which would be a fair argument to make, imo.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Of course if he was hurt but the arguments persisted esp. down the stretch and into the post season when one could only assume Rollins was healthy. Valdez putting up career numbers glossed over his real problems one of which is his tendency to hit into double plays. There are good hitters that do it but they contribute in other offensive categories and as such can be jostled around in the order to help eliminate those double play opportunities. Valdez was doing it the bottom of the order which for a NL team esp. is bad. We’re talkin’ like 20 double plays in 75 plate appearances at one point. That’s when you pray for a guy to strike out. He’s supposed to be a slap singles type of hitter and really can’t do it. And he’s not even a very good bunter and doesn’t have much speed. Unfortunately he has a cannon for an arm and should have been made a pitcher (reliever/longman) but at 32 it’s alittle to late.
Oh, I know. But I am so delayed that going back and reading through all the argument’s comments just isn’t worth it. Plus, as you have already said, I have already read the argument seeing as it started a week ago. The same points are being recycled, it seems, so I have actually heard it all before haha.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
That’s actually why I’m drifting on the edges.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Leaving Don to do all the work, I see ;). Can’t say I blame you. It is not like it is getting anywhere. No matter what you guys say, they aren’t going to change their minds. Just running in circles.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I handled it last week. It’s Don’s turn.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Nope I reached an end point. Chris basically said that Nodl shouldn’t play on Briere, Giroux, Carter, or Richards wing because he isn’t good enough offensively. Assuming they resign Giroux when he is an RFA in 2014/15, that means Nodl shouldn’t play anything bu the 4th line until 2015/16 when Briere’s contract is up. That means he is a 4th liner for the next 4 years of his career. So basically there is nothing to discuss, Lanci sees him as a permanent 4th liner on the Flyers, and that his past 25 games is what his actual production will be (he then went on to say maybe a 25 point player, a smarter Asham, and that he could blossom). But his last thing was that he should never play on the wing with our 4 best centers, therefore, since they are all under contract for the next 3 full season, and most likely the next 4 full seasons, he is saying Nodl is a 4th liner.
If that’s how he feels, there is no point in me ever giving him any numbers because there is no changing his mind.
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Very well said.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Capwise we aren’t going to do any better than Nodl in the near future longer team so I am okay with him in the top 9 next season and on because of the cost and hope that he can improve since he is young. But this year and for this run we can afford something better.
Hence the end point we are at. You clearly stated he is a 4th liner unless out of cap strapped necessity…that’s still a 4th liner in your evaluation. I could give you every piece of data in the world that shows you he is better than a 4th liner, and it still wouldn’t change your outlook on him, I accept it, and I’m fine with that. Chris Lanci’s Nodl is a 4th liner, with an allowable top 9 role if the team has handcuffed themselves cap wise.
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Ignoring the “80 point centers” (The leading scorer is on a 77 point pace), Zherdev is on pace for 33.9 points. Nodl is on pace for 33.5.
Nikolay Zherdev is a fourth line player on this team too then :)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
But Zherdev doesn’t play defense – maybe we should send him to Adirondack to learn how to play hockey, since he’s not even a fourth line player for the Flyers.
Bob.
Erm, no.
20.5% of his ES ice time has been with Carter and Giroux.
19% with Nodl and Richards
14% with Carter and JVR
6.4% with Richards and JVR
6.1% with Giroux and JVR
5.5% with Giroux and Powe
5.2% with Betts and Shelley
2.8% with Giroux and Hartnell
2.4% with Carter and Richards
1.5% with Briere and Hartnell
1.1% with Briere and JVR
1.1% with Giroux and Richards
1.1% with Powe and JVR
1.1% with Giroux and Nodl
1% with Carter and Nodl
etc
Hmm I guess by me stopping all I did was tag Geoff in.
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Probably, but I think it’s obvious that my attitude has changed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
If that’s how he feels, there is no point in me ever giving him any numbers because there is no changing his mind.
Hence the reason it isn’t worth the agro…
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
It took us a while to get to that point. It’s hard to nail Chris down to a specific statement.
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Ah, yes, as we have seen in the many glorious debates that have gone on here over the past few seasons. At least it is entertaining for the rest of us. Plus, I learn a ton about advanced stats thanks to you and Geoff. That is a nice consolation prize after I have pulled my hair out trying to keep up with both sides of the argument lolol.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think we have a new MVP in Huck, he is always swooping in with some really great stuff.
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Seriously though, I now can just wonder out loud about something, and you usually come back with the info.
I could complain that you are making me lazy, but since I’m totally okay with being lazy, I’d rather just compliment and thank you.
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I have noticed that too. Good on ya, Huck.
What we need to do is go insight a riot with the stat geeks at Japer’s so that we stop fighting amongst ourselves hahaha.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think we do as well. The goalie stats, the Nodl chart, the COTY below, what else can he do?
Huck for MVP!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t even care if he changes his mind, I’m perfectly happy to agree to disagree, I just want him to stop twisting my words when he uses them in a counterargument. :-p
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And as Don said, it also takes a LOT of work just to nail down exactly what his opinion is in the first place. It’s very nebulous at first, all you know is that it’s somehow better than yours. :-p
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Boucher.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
The NHL reporter twitter gang is overly thrilled with Fisher going to NSH.
“Fisher, perfect fit” Real_LeBrun
“Great move for Nashville. Good player, cost certainty for 2 years, current roster unaffected, fills a huge need. All good for the Preds.” “Only surprise is I thought OTT would get 1st-rounder and good prospect.” TSNBobMcKenzie
“This is an excellent deal for the Predators. They’ve been looking for a top-six guy for months.” TheFourthPeriod
I guess I have to rethink my thoughts on Nodl 1.12 pts/60 borderline 20 goal score is a top 6 guy Nodl is an elite winger who probably be unaffordable this summer.
Why he was traded in one chart. Hmm, wonder what this would look like for Andreas Nodl
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by Eric T. on Feb 10, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I can’t see anything.
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That’s because I plotted both on the same scale and Nodl only has 100 shots in his career, so there’s just a tiny blue line at the start.
Meaning I can’t even see what are on the axis.
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That trend line is beginning to look like Frolik’s. Get him out while we still can!
Mourning Gagne forever.
You rock.
So where in there does anybody see Nodl as a 3-5% shooting talent?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
If you look at his first 30 shots plus his last 20 shots, he’s a 2% shooter.
If you look at the 56 shots in the middle, he’s a 16% shooter. But that was just a hot streak.
So what you’re saying is: 100 shots are not enough to judge a player’s true shooting talent? But even then, shooting percentage has nothing to do with shooting talent so…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
It’s true that 100 shots aren’t enough to judge a player’s shooting talent, but no, that’s not what I was saying.
What I was saying is that you should form your opinion of a player in his first 30 shots or so, when he’s 21 years old. Then if he does better for a while, you can wonder out loud if maybe you were wrong, but if he misses the net on his next twenty shots, that tells you that you were definitely right in the first place.
Especially if his name sounds vaguely like a term for not-scoring.
by Eric T. on Feb 10, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Ok, I tried for an entire minute not to Rec this, but I just can’t let this go un-Rec’d.
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It’s green.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think this deserves COTN nomination.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
He doesn’t take enough shots is really the problem with Nodl he would score more if shot more and we all would be happy.
Right, but he’d only score 1.5 goals per 50 shots. That’s not much of an uptick in scoring, that’s basically zero.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Since that Team Fortress 2 joke got such rave reviews, I’m assuming that most of you are nerds. Here, nerds, make yourself a Flyers Avatar on Call of Duty:
Random question, tangentially related to the Fisher trade:
How do playoff bonuses work? Is it being on the NHL roster at the start of the playoff? Will Fisher’s be prorated? Would a player who leaves a playoff team at the deadline get stiffed despite all he did to help the team? Does the team get to dole it out as they want?
Since this thread couldn’t get any more off-topic, I assume you missed me, eh? I had greek yogurt and granola for lunch. And my Bobs shersey finally came in the mail and in mens small it is about finger-length on me, rediculous. Oh well lets hope its good luck. And apparently I havent grown in 3 years and am stuck at 5 foot 1.58 inches.
Whens it supposed to snow again??
Laperriere is my hero
Carcillo's my lover
Bobrovsky's my savior
Hockeys my life
1.58? You really stretching to be tall, aren’t you?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
While we’re at it, just make it an even 2 lol! Look Carrie, you have just grown more in the last 10 minutes than you have in the last 3 years! Congrats! Quite a day for you ;)
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yesssssss A whole .42 of an inch!!
But the lady took it in inches, it was 61.9 inches. That divided by 12 (to make feet) is 5.158. I really need that .08, haha that way Carcillo is only 8.42 inches taller
Laperriere is my hero
Carcillo's my lover
Bobrovsky's my savior
Hockeys my life
by Cillo stache on Feb 10, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
So Cillo stache, that means you’re taller than me; and you can take solace in knowing you’re definitely not the shortest person here.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Briere’s officially listed height, or his real height? Because we all know they’re not the same…
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well, kiddos, it has been a blast. Off to bed. Hoping to wake up to a Flyers win and more things to argue about ;). I look forward to reading tonight’s thread and recap tomorrow morning. Go Flyers! :)
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Teaching in Spain at the moment. 6 hours ahead of the US so it is 11:30pm here.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Oh ya, it is bad. Doesn’t matter because I am not getting paid anyway. I am doing my undergrad Student Teaching before graduating this May, so I am only here for another 3 weeks or so.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
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