Tuesday Morning Fly By: Monday Was Preview Day
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 6:01 AM EDT
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Chris Pronger still isn't practicing: [Philly Sports Daily]
- Maybe that's why they recalled Matt Walker. Another re-entry journey: [Frequent Flyers] [Philly Sports Daily]
- Frank Seravalli gives a video preview of the Flyers series against the Sabres: [Frequent Flyers]
- Travis hasn't yet previewed the series here, but he did do it here: [SBNation.com]
- The Briere line looks to repeat last year's success: [delcotimes.com]
- The team supposedly has a game plan to beat Ryan Miller: [Philly Sports Daily]
- But the Sabres goalie doesn't scare the Flyers: [Philly Sports Daily]
- The Sabres are quite happy with their recent play: [CSNPhilly]
- Whereas the Flyers say the playoffs will be their spark: [CSNPhilly]
- The NHL wrote a lot recently, so first: another story praising Claude Giroux: [NHL.com]
- Part of their "why (x) will win the Stanley Cup" series looking at the Flyers: [NHL.com]
- And lastly, James van Riemsdyk maturing into a legitimate threat: [NHL.com]
- Just going to put the title here, because it's interesting: Kris Versteeg says Flyers fans still hate him: [Philly Sports Daily]
- The final "Hartnell down" count is out. Here it is: [Down Goes Spezza]
- The final week of the Prospect Report stars Matt Read, Erik Gustafsson, and Johan Backlund: [Flyers Faithful]
- Looking at the 5 top candidates for the Masterton Trophy. Three* former Flyers make the list: [Puck Daddy]
- An in-depth (numbers!) look at recent streaks entering the playoffs: [The Checking Line]
- Enter a fantasty playoff pool for free, you could win $250: [Fantasy Hockey Scouts]
- The Capitals re-signed Mike Knuble to a one-year deal: [Washington Times]
- Lastly, the Phantoms must have had a great going-away party: "Found my phone inna ditch 5 miles from our team party" [stefanlegein]
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Is it me or is this Pronger thing really getting way out of hand? I hope the team doesn’t have the mindset of the rest of the city in thinking all hope is lost if he doesn’t make it back or if he does and he isn’t truly healthy enough to make a difference. Either scenario cold be detrimental. I would assume the locker room knows exactly what the plan for him is and they know that either way he is 1 player and with or without him they are plenty capable of beating Buffalo. I guess I am just sick of the Pronger watch. It reminds me of the Lindros era and how that team constantly held itself in limbo over his health and game status.
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
As I remember it, it always seem to effect their play. He would go down and they would play great without him for a couple games then ultimately have a losing record without him. Then when he was close to coming back or when he came back they would hit a skid either in expectation of him coming back or by standing around waiting for him to take over his first game back. Remember in 2000, they were beating the devils 3-1 then the rumors started about him coming back. They lost game 5 without him in the line up and then the they lost the other two games with him in the line up. But game six they lost 2-1 and he was the only guy that scored. The team stood around that game expecting him to be the hero. And in game 7 once he got knocked out they were cooked. Like him or not, a lot of Lindros’ recklessness stemmed from him trying to do way too much on his own.
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I love Lindros…he’s a big reason why I feel in love with hockey.
/This confession will probably make some of our readers (Kreider) like him even less.
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There are only a couple things I take seriously other then really loving hockey especially Flyers hockey. Lindros, his career and his place in history is one of them. Dude should be considered for the hall but in the end his career might just have been to short. Damn shame what they did to that kid while this organization exploded from his contributions.
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Yea, I don’t know that the Flyers “turn it around” from the early 90s without his star power. We would probably still have the Wacho Center, but instead of “The House that Lindros Built” it would be “The House that Iverson Built”…and somewhat newer actually, but not demonstrably.
Also, we might have been every bit as good or even better…we would have had Forsberg. But still, Lindros and the hype brought me into hockey. I was already a fan, but I was so young I thought basketball was the most exciting
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We would have had Forsberg, Ricci, Duchesne, Hextall, Chris Simon, Kerry Huffman, and draft picks. Add them to a core of Rod Brind’Amour, Mark Recchi, Kevin Dineen, Garry Galley, Pelle Eklund, and Dmitri Yushkevich. Some of those guys / picks could have been traded for help in other areas, like defense and goaltending.
I loved Lindros and think it’s a shame that he never grew up while he was here. I think the issue was more how he let his parents run his life as opposed to the organ-eye-zation putting him through it, so to speak. (Clarkie didn’t help, though.)
That said, I can’t help but wonder how the Flyers would have looked had they kept Forsberg and stayed the course with their core.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
We’ll always wonder, but it’s totally unfair to criticize this trade. ESPN called it one of the worst trades in NHL history on a recent post…which is outrageous. Philly was trying to get the next great player. You can’t hold it against the organ-eye-zation. Forsberg was an unknown European quantity, as was Selanne, and Lindros was the next one.
Side Note: Bure went in the 6th round the same year Lindros was drafted.
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Why is it that Lindros never grew up? If never growing up is criticizing the training staff and management for bullying him into playing while he couldn’t even focus or stop from vomiting because he was concussed over and over again. Then having the organization make public any relationship they had with his parents public which none of which was confirmed as accurate. Then I guess he needed to “grow up”. They fucking used that guy, abused that guy, profited off that guy and then disposed of him as if he were common trash. Shameful.
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Q & A
Question:
Why is it that Lindros never grew up?
Answer:
he let his parents run his life
Clarkie to the witness stand:
“I see Eric Desjardins get his teeth knocked out. I didn’t hear from his mom and dad. John LeClair gets his face torn up with 40 stitches, and we didn’t hear from his mom and dad. I’m just so tired of our organization getting beat up so badly by all the accusations the family makes. I don’t dislike Eric. I pity him. I feel sorry for him. What’s it like to be 27 years old and have your mom and dad running your life? Can’t even go to the [bleep]ing doctor on your own without your mom and dad coming along… If he’s going to come back, he can’t have his dad calling us and telling us who to trade for and who he wants to play with Eric and who can’t play with Eric.”
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I love Clarke with all my heart and soul. I knew Clarke very well as a child and he treated me and everyone for that matter like gold. But you don’t think there is any exaggeration in that statement? And if for no other reason then to save face for how they treated him and the concern of legal matters this was put out there to control public opinion. No offense to Leclair and Desjardins but people weren’t trying to take advantage of those guys since they were 10 years old. I sure as shit hope my parents or yours would have given a shit if the world was trying to take advantage. And in reality they did have good reason to be concerned for how there son was being treated because the fact remains the Flyers never took proper regard for his health and it ruined his career. So I guess his parents were right to be concerned.
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I had never heard that Clarke quote before, but it doesn’t surprise me at all. I’m with you on this one.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
I agree with mikefive. We very likely did push Lindros too hard at times to come back from injuries, but I still lay most of the blame for how things went down with him on his parents. It goes back at least to his days in juniors when he refused to sign with the team that drafted him, a stunt he repeated again in the NHL. I guarantee his parents had a hand in that and it set a precedent in his mind that he can do whatever the fuck he wants because he’s Eric Lindros.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
And who let him feel that way also???? The Flyers, until they no longer needed his broken down ass. I really believe the actual interactions of his parents are somewhere in the middle like most he said she said arguments. In the end the only person that gave it all was Lindros.
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
He wasn’t just good with Philly though, he had a great last year in Dallas if I remember correctly. He was a big piece in their playoff run in that year.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Lindros played 3 games for the Stars in the playoffs that year, had no points, and finished -2.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
He had a different role that year though. What were his corsi numbers?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa. When I first joined I almost wrote a fanpost called “Why I’ve Forgiven Eric Lindros and You Should To!”
I think that the way he’s villified still is a blemish on all Flyers fans and the history of the franchise.
Also, did you mean like “you” even less?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No no no, I meant the fact that he got me into hockey would make you like him less…since you have to put up with me now.
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Ahhhh I see. That makes sense. I posted 11 minutes after waking up so I don’t think it’s your fault.
Still my love for Lindros is alive I wish I didn’t get rid of a lot of the stuff I had when I was a kid.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
This.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Do we have any word/idea if Z will actually get to play during the playoffs? I am assuming he will based on him playing the last few games but really I am just guessing.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I’m assuming he plays. He’ll probably have a shortish leash, but against a team with Buffalo’s speed and Ryan Miller in net we need a guy like him on the ice.
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I hope not because they are really going to need Shelley back for his heart and grit.
//tick…tick…tick…//sarcasm bomb////
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BOOOM!
That post got funnier with every word. haha
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
HEART
In all the discussion of “HEART” over the last week or so, has anyone made a Captain Planet reference yet? Because I want to be the first one.
Seriously. Earth, wind, water, fire…..heart? WHICH ONE DOESN’T BELONG?
I really dig earth wind and fire. Saw them in 87 at the igloo when I was going to Slippery Rock. No Philip Bailey but great live all the same.
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So that’s 2 for Earth Wind and Fire, Jefferson and little brother.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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Slippery Rock, eh? I was going to Grove City around the same time. OT
by WHG on Apr 12, 2011 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I had a good friend at Grove City during that time period. Even went there and hit a few parties. Good times. I only lasted one year and the slimy pebble due to the fact that you can’t just play hockey you actually have to attend class. I was apparently the last one to know.
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I posted a pic of the Heart dude from CP
I also made this. 
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would buy one…if it had a slogan or something on it. I feel like it needs to be explained, but if you get it it is AMAZING.
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I’m going to make a different version of it, add more pixels and shading. I agree it needs explanation to have appeal outside of BSHers but I’m not sure what the wording should be.
Any ideas?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It’ll still be pixels, just look a little more SNES than NES.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, because it looks great at that size, but if you put it on a shirt from that drawing, people would need to be 50 feet away to get what it was. I’m excited for the T-shirt appropriate version
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Vote Flyers!~
http://www.litterboxcats.com/2011/4/11/2103966/lbcs-adopt-a-playoff-team-eastern-conference
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How is the beard coming along?
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Probably not worth a link but thought I would share:
New York City, NY – April 11, 2011 – The Philadelphia Flyers will ring the NASDAQ Stock Market Opening Bell and "Drop the Puck" on the 2011 Stanley Cup Playoffs on Wednesday, April 13 at the NASDAQ MarketSite (4 Times Square – 43rd & Broadway) at 9:15 a.m.
Representing the Flyers will be Ian Laperriere, Bernie Parent, Bob "Hound" Kelly, Joe Watson and Derian Hatcher.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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I hope Hatcher isn’t skating his way up there…or if he is I hope he left in December.
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by Pardini36 on Apr 12, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where does Hatcher fit into that group? Lappy is a throe back who fit in now but Hatcher? Not in this town.
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He’s part of the staff now.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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This. He became a player development coach when Rico moved back to Quebec.
/Still misses Rico
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too. I miss Rico and his super bright teeth.
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t catch this last week, but did anyone talk about that SF Giants fan that got beaten into a coma outside of Dodgers stadium? Was it covered widely in the media?
I'm kind of a dick.
I thought it was covered pretty well.
The Pirate fan who got beaten over the weekend is also making it’s rounds nationally.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
That’s not the first violent incident.
In a parking lot outside Dodger Stadium in 2003, a 19-year-old Dodgers fan named Pete Marron and his companions got into an argument with a Giants fan named Marc Antenorcruz, 25, as they left in the seventh inning of a 6-4 win by the Giants.
Antenorcruz was drunk and belligerent, witnesses said. Marron took a .25-caliber semiautomatic from the console of a sport utility vehicle and shot the junior college sophomore twice from 40 feet away, killing him. Marron got 50 years to life.
And is it odd that I get this perverse thrill out of going to PPP to watch their interaction FLYERROB?
I'm kind of a dick.
No. I find it entertaining myself. Haven’t been there in a while though but they are good people there.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I am actually quite impressed with the behavior of the SB Nation Blogs. I’m assuming Pennsburgh is SB Nation and pensblog is…not. The comments on Pensblog during the Flyers-Pens game actually shocked me. Like, I went to PSU, I’ve dealt with pens fans, and I like to rag on them, but it was ridiculous. Pennsburgh on the other hand was a good community of posters. I guess it’s just the culture of the two blogs.
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I feel like the Pensblog/Pensburgh comment dichtomy is similar to say BSH vs. CSN Philly or philly.com’s site.
Was he banned or just took his puck and went elsewhere?
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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He was banned because Travis hates Jesus.
I'm kind of a dick.
by Vansteel on Apr 12, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
rec’d
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
You said it man. Nobody fucks with ze Jesus.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
The former.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Do you like Jesus?
No?
Then you’re safe.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
What if you like the baby Jesus only? :)
I cannot wear my Pelle Eklund jersey anymore because of hockeybuzz and its creator Eklund.....
Hey Norm, if you were a hot dog would you eat your self??
Semper Fi...
I like my jesus in a tuxedo t-shirt.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Singing lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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with angel wings
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 12, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
sorting Coke off of strippers while singing Bro Hymn
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 12, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Little 6 pound 8 ounce Jesus? He’s my favorite.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
as sick as it is, this reminded me of Columbine, Sexy Rexy
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 12, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Was he really banned? If so the yeahhh! because that particular rant was outrageous. Also, I dont hate Jesus :p
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SUPER 8 BITCHES
by sophiejo on Apr 12, 2011 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My theology professor had a Buddy Christ on his desk.
Bob.
by The Dark on Apr 12, 2011 12:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d like to start today off by saying
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 12, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions
Just trying to remind people to vote Flyers.
http://www.litterboxcats.com/2011/4/11/2103966/lbcs-adopt-a-playoff-team-eastern-conference
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pride, disdain from Panthers fans.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
A prize for the college hockey pick em bracket?
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
Yeah, we have to talk about that.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
PRONGER OUT FOR GAME ONE
According to Daniel Briere, he expects that Pronger will not be playing in game 1 on Thursday. He made an appearance on a Buffalo radio station this morning and said he wishes he were wrong, but that the Flyers will be without Pronger.
Sorry for adding to the panic. But it was news.
what panic? All is quiet on the Atlantic front
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 12, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
EVERYBODY PAN---
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by Pardini36 on Apr 12, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This graphic should get used more often.
Oh, I don't know. I think the GM should sign that free agent velociraptor to fortify the bench. He's a playoff veteran who still shows a lot of hustle.
by LeepinLizardz on Apr 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I miss Douglas Adams. :(
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't press it.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I’ll try to counter with good news from the article saying Pronger is uncertain. We might get Betts back….
C Blair Betts (knee sprain) practiced on a checking line with Dan Carcillo and Andreas Nodl and said he is ready for Game 1.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
DSOD for Conn Smythe!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
He was saying this in Buffalo, to a Buffalo station. So he could just be stirring the pot a little to get them thinking, but he denied that. So take it as you will. They have the radio spot here if you want to listen to it, the Pronger convo starts just before the 5 minute mark: http://www.crossingbroad.com/2011/04/briere-says-pronger-will-not-play-on-thursday.html#more
Two Line Pass and I are auctioning our services off to the highest bidder this postseason and donating the money to charity. Want us to do our usual shit disturber routine and mix it up with guest appearances by Down Goes Brown, jtbourne, The Goalie Guild and more?
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This is being discussed among the ruling “in clique”.
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Uh, we don’t have such a thing.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
What’s the slogan? I didn’t get to read much yesterday.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
/geoff’d
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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It was something along the lines of:
“The BSH Clubhouse: Where newcomers are ridiculed and derided”
We may as well have a contest about this. Who can come up with the best slogan??
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Now now, we’re all about newcomers, and not about deriding them.
There will be a crap ton of them during the playoffs, so try to keep Mean Girlsing to a minimum.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
“The Glens Fall Kids”
“Without Us You’d Have 80% Less Comments”
“You’re all Trolls to Us”
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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Unless its “DSOD SCF GWG FTW,” I am going to have to ask this to disband immediately.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s no clique and their next meeting isn’t on Thursday night and it’s not at “Nite Moves” down by the docks and I won’t see any of you there.
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And the initiation does not involve sitting high and right behind the net while Carter shoots.
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Safer than being there with Phaneuf shooting.
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I wouldn’t call it a clique, at least I’d prefer it not to be. I think it’s just that some people around here (including me) are the quote unquote ‘loud voices’ in the room; always opinionated, always here, always talking. Not necessarily a bad thing, unless some poor newcomer angers the majority of the group.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
We all know you’re an important cog in the machine DG, you know the CBA, so don’t worry your status is all set ;) /s
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by JerseyDriver on Apr 12, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
But is there a spoon?
I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.
Chem and Gus to the restaurant.
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Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Excuse me waitress, can I get a spppoooon. Never mind, I found one.
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by JerseyDriver on Apr 12, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is in this clique??
And Kreider … We need a BSH Clique Clubhouse Banner gif. I’m relying on you because the last time I was considered an artist was when I won the 8th grade art award. And because if I blame you no one will notice how I never do anything.
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I mean, you guys already say “Go Flyers!” so much, it’s hard to imagine money increasing that frequency.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re missing an opportunity to acquire such legendary gestures as:
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/10/14/1750715/what-a-delightful-tidbit (this made rounds on Habs blogs for months)
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Heh, ytmnd is apparently blocked at my office for “Rudeness.”
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, bookmark it or something. It’s spectacular.
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No wonder Versteeg thinks we hate him…
I cannot wear my Pelle Eklund jersey anymore because of hockeybuzz and its creator Eklund.....
Hey Norm, if you were a hot dog would you eat your self??
Semper Fi...
by lcd24 on Apr 12, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Remember that girl you dated who was only good at ONE thing? But REALLY good at it? But after a month you wanted to kill her? That’s the FLYERROB experience, but the good thing is nowhere near as good.
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I’m from New England, but no.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather just donate the collection straight to charity.
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Well played…but seriously, if we are collecting money, and lose the bid, then it helps no one. If everyone wants to raise money for a good cause, do it, then just donate it. Plus this way we don’t have to associate with lambert at all.
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Yeah, I know, hence what/why I’m encouraging.
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While we’re at it, though, we get some quality milk out of the PPP/DGB teat and serve Lambert up for slaughter after inviting him in our home.
That was a weird place to go with that, I guess. I don’t want someone to win that bid and then pretend to appreciate Lambert. I trust only us to treat him properly.
My thing is, it be nice if the communities bidding on this would agree to donate the money win or lose.
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Well, let’s openly challenge them, then. Make all bids public. Ebay can’t freeze people’s bids in, win or lose.
That would be excellent.
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I wish I could donate something nonmonetary. I’m not currently in a position to donate money until I find a job.
I’ll give someone an hour long putting lesson if they donate $20 :)
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I think you can spare $1. Every $1 helps…even if all the regular commentors agree to just $1 that’s a decent amount.
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I think Geoff does since he always tries to pay me back via paypal.
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I could set something up if we’re serious about all of this. I think it’d be cool. Chemmy’s a cool dude, at least.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll donate as long as it guaranteed to be donated regardless of the result of the ebay listing.
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I wouldn’t want to do it otherwise.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of cliques
What are everyone’s thoughts on a get-together to catch one of these games?
I'm kind of a dick.
Depending on what game, I could be down for that.
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
This would be amazing. I might have to make the 2.5 hour drive for it.
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We have done everything but the live part.
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Screw the radio part, I meant just getting together for “live, drunken, playoff BSH.” Though I suppose we could record it and post it later, but this may be a bad idea.
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I'll make a deal
If we can get a legitimate BSH Tailgate before *Game 5 next Friday, I’ll even make my Buffalo Bacon Italian Mac & Cheese for the occasion.
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I’d prefer not for Game 5 as that’s the only game during these playoffs I will not be at.
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Game 1, 2, or 7…or any other home game from any other series.
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KNOCK ON WOOD
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t be there for game 1 or 2…and I have tickets to both 5 and 7 but I’m kinda feeling like we take this in 5.
Game 1: Come out in fire 5-2
Game 2: Closer score but no real scare 4-3
Game 3: Miller Time! 1-3
Game 4: Richie Time 4-3 OT
Game 5: Carter scores 2 in the third when the game is over 6-2
And besides, if Jeffie knows I’m in the building. Usually I sit in 204, which is why he’s high and wide. This time I’m behind the net…in 207.
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I can’t even be in the parking lot for Game 5…so if this actually happens, another option would be excellent.
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Somebody else with tickets to Game 5 has a restraining order. Only possible explanation for “I can’t even be in the parking lot.”
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha…yet I can be at every other one?
I just planned something with the fiancee long before playoff schedules came out…and even though she is cool enough to have me cancel and still go to the game, I would never cancel on her.
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I see what you did there.
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Thus why I pray that when the time comes I never have a daughter.
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I not the one wanting to tap something or grind it like a dog on a couch.
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Who suggested cillo goes naked to prom with a playoff beard and scars?
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picture fail…
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That wasn’t me. I was jsut saying when I was in high school I would have liked that.
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Not me I just mentioned growing a beard was not really a good look for a young lady. Pardini and the other guy went into the other deeper areas.
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tsk tsk tsk, you boys I can’t leave you by yourselves ever, can I?
Jeeze I should just boycott school till playoffs are over, you guys have too much fun without me.
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by Cillo stache on Apr 12, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
"the time" is what you call your junk.
How about your dude proper is Morris Day, and the rest is “The Time?”
Then you could have “Morris Day and The Time” down there.
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by mikefive on Apr 12, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, “the time” is what I call, when my wife finishes her Masters degree and says, it’s time to have kids. Personally I am in no rush to have kids so I will enjoy these next two years.
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I know, I’m with you. My wife is getting baby fever off and on but agrees that it is not “the time.”
I get cold sweats when she gets the fever.
I better get a cowbell…
Hahaha, it’s not that I am against kids…more so, I just don’t feel the need to have kids. But whatever…I feel like that attitude might make me the worst parent ever, time will tell.
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I lucked out on the kids depending on your point of view. My wife really didn’t want them and I was totally cool with it. I always tell people my wife is a principal so she hates kids. Joking of course. So now we are the greatest aunt and uncle in the world and get to sleep in and take naps whenever we please.
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Hahaha, my wife and I, mostly my wife, I was just there, baby sat her friend’s daughter on Friday, great kid, really pleasant the whole time. Everytime my wife babysits I can see that it kills her that she hasn’t had a child yet. Ideally she would like to be on the way to number 2 but she knows it’s better to finish her MSN first and I am of course in no rush to change her mind.
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It won’t; trust me. I never wanted kids, either. My husband was the one with the “fever.” Turns out it was the best thing I ever did, even though I don’t want another one.
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Seriously one of the funniest things I have heard/read/seen in quite a while
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by JerseyDriver on Apr 12, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m guessing it would have to be a weekend, for those of us that have work and a long drive. Are you around all this weekend, or are you going home Saturday?
I'm kind of a dick.
I have tickets to games 5 and 7…I’ll be going up to PSU Thursday-Sunday. I can watch them there just as easily as I can watching them in Philly. And tailgate.
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This Saturday I’ll be at the Union game. Sigh. I’ll be trying not to hear any updates so I can watch it on DVR when I get back to the TV.
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would you be going to a Union game during a Flyers playoff game?
I’m not going to the Phils games during April hockey…even if it’s not the Flyers.
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I didn’t know there was a Flyers playoff game. Also, I’m really excited about the Union game.
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Ooh, I should do a Game 2 thing in DC…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m wondering if there’ll be any of those away game viewing parties at the Center
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I’d rather watch it in a bar than at the WFC on the big screen. Easier access to drinks and food, not as crowded, and none of that traffic.
I'm kind of a dick.
I prefer to watch my team’s playoff games with my security blanket and a bottle of warm milk.
It’s been a while.
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I want to come…
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by sophiejo on Apr 12, 2011 9:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d help but I’m married.
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You’re American, you should know that “I’m Married” doesn’t really mean a whole lot here, sadly.
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No, but it is statistically much higher in the US than it is in most of the world.
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But there’s stats, you can’t argue with stats.
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Not on you, or with you?
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No they’ve definitely done it with me.
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I’m not sure whether to congratulate you or be disgusted by you…indifference FTW.
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I think it’s just more reviled here, and as such more noticed. My grad school was highly international and when we went abroad for our global section of the program a lot fo the international students were shocked at how the American men weren’t just going directly to brothels, etc. For them it was quite normal.
I’m not mentioning countries here because I don’t want to stereotype. Let’s just say our culture reviles it more, so we hear about it more.
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This in a nutshell
If it’s a matter of infidelity, some cultures make a much bigger deal out of it than others, so the numbers get skewed. Since the studies can only be conducted by survey, even anonymously, and people in different cultures and sub-cultures have different definitions of what it means, it’s hard to make a catch-all claim that’s accurate.
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Very true.
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I’d be angrier but I’m a big Jeremy Roenick fan.
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I guess it depends on where you are. It was easier to walk around at the Center during Game 7 last year than it is at our PJs during a playoff game. Our friend insisted we go there to watch a playoff game last year, we tried to shoot it down but eventually caved and tried to go….. Ended up not being able to physically get in the door and drove back to my apt and ordered pizza. I was angry cause I missed the whole first period when I knew it would be bad all along.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
What does this have to do with fidelity?
//sophiejo’d//
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Why are you trying to make my non-reply fail look like it is one?
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
no mine is a sarcastic reply fail based on your non reply fail based on an uncomfortable conversation thread above which your reply seem to end up at the bottom of because we are all about the tangent conversation around here. Luv ya DG!
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From EJ Hradek on ESPN...so take it with a big grain of salt
Last spring, the Flyers took advantage of lower expectations and some terrific matchups
True.
to get to the Cup final. This time, the locals have penciled in a long playoff run.
False….where is he seeing that? I think Philly is being typical Philly and is rather pessimistic about this team right now. Not without some justifiability considering how they have finished their season.
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Since when is ESPN even remotely in touch with what goes on in Philly? I think you’re expecting too much of them.
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ESPN experts
sorry, if this was mentioned already, but 6 of 8 experts commentators picked the Sabres
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Sorry, if this was mentioned already, but 6 of 8 experts commentators picked theSabresfanbase more closely aligned with Yankees Fans
If I’m correct, the “experts” at ESPN have not chosen us to win by a majority of opinions since before the lockout.
2006 They chose the Sabers
2008 They chose Washington and Montreal and pittsburgh
2009 they chose Pittsburgh
2010 They chose NJ, Boston, Montreal, and Chicago
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Well in fairness they are 4-5 in those picks so it’s not like they are totally missing the boat.
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If you continually choose against any team you’re going to be around .500 in that stretch. Except Detroit and Pittsburgh I suppose. If you choose against a team that never makes the third round you’re guaranteed to be .500 at worse, so you have a 12/16 chance of being .500 at worst.
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To rephrase what Pardini36 was getting at above. Picking teams at complete random a billion times would have resulted in a slightly success. Therefore the ESPN “experts” are no better than random when it comes to the Flyers.
It didn’t read like he was saying that the Experts were picking at random, it read as if the experts were specifically picking against the Flyers.
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Well, Burnside hates us, which is amusing as he chose us. But I was actually mentioning how ESPN tends to choose against the Flyers quite often because teamwork isn’t what they’re selling. They’re selling highlights from star players.
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But aside from when they faced Washington, Pittsburgh and Chicago, what star players did the Sabres, Habs, Devils, and Bruins offer that the Flyers couldn’t “match”?
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Briere/Vanek, the Habs are very hyped on TSN (ESPN Canada), Brodeur, and ESPN loves boston (Rask, Chara, Savard) as much as they hate Philly. Philly has a ton of star power, but ESPN, and specifically their hockey writers, tend to write about the Flyers as a bunch of notalent goons. Of course, i’m biased, but seriously, read Scott Burnside sometime.
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Bob.
by The Dark on Apr 12, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t blame them, in a series that is a close match up like this I would generally side with the team with the better goalie.
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I think a lot of people will also pick Buffalo because they’ve been playing lights out since December while Philly’s been slumping.
I’m not sure that’s a great piece of logic; if Buffalo didn’t play like that they wouldn’t be in the postseason and Philly’s had the luxury of coasting for a long time.
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Agreed, but like I said, I like to side with the better goalie.
I can see Miller stealing a game or two…not so much with Bob.
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Once again goaltending is a myth if a Leighton Niemi Stanley Cup taught us anything the name on the back of the goalie’s jersey doesn’t matter.
Lundquist, Miller, Luongo have zero SCF appearences and Leighton does. Leighton’s playoff numbers 0.916 SV PCT and 2.46 GAA are very comparable to those 3 big names. So take that as you wish.
Lundquist – 0.907 2.66
Miller – 0.917 2.39
Loungo – 0.919 2.46
The better goalie doesn’t win in fact that is quite the opposite. The team with the best offense tends to win in the playoffs post lockout the top G/G teams have the best success.
2010 – CHI 3rd G/G
2009 – PITT 5th G/G
2008 – DET 3rd G/G
2007 – ANA 8th G/G
2006 – CAR 3rd G/G
No team has won the cup with under 3.00 G/G during the regular season in the post lockout era. Buffalo is ranked 9th with a 2.93 G/G this year.
I think there has to be a distinction made between “goaltending” and “high-priced goaltending”.
It’s silly to say that Lundqvist, Vokoun, and Miller aren’t playoff goalies because the teams in front of them were bad.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Which does nothing to take away from my statement that I trust Miller to steal a game more than I do Bob. Better goaltending is better goaltending. Doesn’t always mean the team with the better goalie wins, you know, it being a team game and all. But given the option I would take Miller over Bob every time and I think you would have to be crazy not to.
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To be fair, when you compare the defenses, Miller is a lot more likely to get the chance to steal a game. Once everyone is diving in front of pucks and the Flyers playoff tested D takes away the inside Bob won’t have to do as much. We just have to stop giving away breakaways.
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playoff tested D
/vomit
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Pronger/Timmonen/Coburn/SOD
Admittedly I don’t know Meszaros’ playoff history…and I’m not going to look it up.
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Yes, because “playoff tested” really helped the Flyers in 2009.
Playoff tested really helped the Penguins last year. And it really was instrumental in the Canadiens making a run.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The Pens didn’t have the wingers they’d had in years past. Ever since Malkin and Crosby began costing 16+M I’m not as worried about the Pens. Neal scares me however. If/when Crosby returns he’s gonna be a terror.
You’re really saying playoff experience isn’t worth anything? I know it’s not a quantifiable stat but seriously…
And in 2009 we got beaten by a better team. Plain and simple.
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I think what he is saying is the value in the talent of our D outweighs what their playoff experience brings to the table by a very large margin.
I don’t think you’d disagree, especially with your last statement there. There is way more value in having 5 top 4 Dmen, than there is having play off tested Dmen.
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Yes, I agree, but I also think that our Defense is better because of their experience in these moments. They’re not going to have the first time jitters a Myers might have. They’re going to remember being down 3-0 in game 7 and shutting the door, etc. That has value in big games.
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They’re going to remember being down 3-0 in game 7 and shutting the door, etc. That has value in big games.
Because these guys have never played a big game in their life?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure they’ve won in junior and the minors, but winning in the Stanley Cup is a bit different than the Calder Cup.
To give a comparison, Rory McIlroy has won at every level, but with the lead in a major for the first time…80. It took Phil until his 30s to win a major, and he won big tournaments at every level.
So yes, I think experience is valuable.
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There’s something to be said for knowing what it feels like to make it to Game 6 of the SCF. There’s very little to be said about what it takes to win in game 86. “Stanley Cup Playoff Experience” is ridiculously overrated, let alone in the first round.
Sean O`Donnell’s “experience” means nothing in comparison to Tyler Myers’ skill. If this was the ECF, I’d only agree with you in regards to experience = ability to handle fatigue.
But to say that the Flyers’ experienced D helps them win 4 games in April is… vastly overstating experience.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t argue that I’d take SOD over Myers, obviously. But if you give me the choice between two comparable players I’ll take the more experienced guy every time. It’s the playoffs. If you don’t take every game seriously you’re going to find trouble quickly.
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But if you give me the choice between two comparable players I’ll take the more experienced guy every time.
But what is “experience”? Does SOD have more experience than Timonen simply because he won a Cup? Does Myers have “experience” because he’s played in the playoffs? Does Lukas Krajicek have as much “experience” as Matt Carle?
If you offered me a guy who played 26 NHL playoff games in one season vs. a guy who never played more than 6 in any season, of course I’d take the guy who went deep. But it has nothing to do with him “knowing how to win”, it’s that he knows what it’s like to play 108 NHL games in one year. To deal with the injuries and play through them. To handle the mental and physical fatigue. I don’t care if he won the Cup, was a fourth line player, or what.
The only thing “experience” helps (if you don’t believe me, see Lanci’s goaltender argument) is dealing with the fatigue.
If you don’t take every game seriously you’re going to find trouble quickly.
And you don’t need experience for this.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
“I felt like they had 8 guys out there.” – Sidney Crosby after his first playoff series
Yes, even one series matters.
I don’t think the experience gained in games 40-60 in the NHL playoffs has the marginal benefit of games 1-20. Law of diminishing returns applies.
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Who plays 40-60 NHL playoff games?
A) We know what I think about player quotes. They’re useless.
B) Maybe Crosby felt like they had 8 guys out there because the team put 3 guys on him at all times.
C) If one series gives you experience, how about 4 games? What about 2 games? What about just Game 1?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
What Don said.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s it. Next year, we settle this. Rookies vs Veterans for the All-Star Game. Except that there are a LOT more old farts to choose from. Otherwise, it might work.
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Yeah, that wouldn’t work.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
this reply says nothing but I was testing if you really came back to see if someone tried to get the last word.
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this reply says nothing but I was testing if you really came back to see if someone tried to get the last word.
this reply says nothing but I was testing if you really came back to see if someone tried to get the last word.
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Tyler Myers played in the playoffs last year.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
So did the Sabres…
I was hoping he didn’t mean “playing in the playoffs at all” is “experience.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed entirely.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
True I take Miller over Bob but for a completely different reason. Not because I am worried about Miller stealing games. I am more worried about BOB shitting the bed and giving games away. The Sabers might need Miller to steal games the Flyers don’t need Bob to steal games. All the Flyers need is for BOB to BOB and the offense to score goals.
For the most part, I find those guys adorable. They are harmless and seem to really love the game, trying to keep ESPN hockey coverage afloat in a sea of network indifference.
And, just because I haven't said it yet...
Pat Faulkner!
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Kinda struggling uploading pictures
Can anyone help me out, for some reason I can’t seem to get it to work properly
The Bettman Bowl is tonight!
Who do we think Gary wants to win the lottery this time? With no great players in the draft, it’s a good year for him to let a non-traditional market have a go…
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The Checking line article lost me with “the article will focus on the 20 different Eastern Conference Quarterfinals matchups.” Sample size problems, fella.
As is understood it he was looking at 4 match ups per quater final over the 5 years and that gives you the 20. I could be wrong since I am on a train trying to do some work.
I cannot wear my Pelle Eklund jersey anymore because of hockeybuzz and its creator Eklund.....
Hey Norm, if you were a hot dog would you eat your self??
Semper Fi...
You’re right, but that’s not a large enough sample to establish any of the things he’s trying to prove.
Eh. None of those types of things are. But “post-lockout” is as far back as you can go anyway (different era), so… you’re going to have a small sample anyway.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m just peeved he even tried. Which is why I don’t like the article. I don’t think it has anything to say.
Fair enough. haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Fyi, people who are new since last year (almost everyone), we do threads for every day/night of playoff action that the Flyers aren’t playing, so stay tuned here tonight for all that fun.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
You know there is no playoff game Friday, hence no good excuse for you not to come up for some open ice.
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Sorry, I gotta go wear my Bandwagon shirt at the Verizon Center that night…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, no good reason.
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I actually think that’s a fantastic reason.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Well then I’d have to assume you are anti-social and hate playing ice hockey.
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0-2
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Then I go back to no good reason.
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I think Ben rocking a Bandwagon shirt in front of fans who probably aren’t bright or old enough to get the joke is awesome. Maybe not the best reason but certainly better than no good reason.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
There would be added incentive for Ben to come up here that I’m not posting.
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And that sounded way dirtier than it should have.
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Wait, what?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Check your email.
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And then share it with us so we can all see these dirty offers Don is making to lure you to Open Ice.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
Yeah, that…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 12, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess not being “almost everyone” means I’m an old-timer…
/goes to look for a cane
Bob.
by The Dark on Apr 12, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, i still think of myself as new and I was here last year.
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Wow...no one?
No conversation at all about tongiht’s draft lottery??
I’m depressed about this.
/guessing only I care
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FINAL ROUND OF VOTING
Everybody is against us. We need to win this thing.
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Leights and Z didn’t get claimed. You honestly think Walker would?
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
With our salary cap…I was afraid someone would do it just to screw the flyers.
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I don’t think anyone wants Walker, even at half price.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Especially not for two years.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Except the Flyers…
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
But then this really smart guy named Steve Yzerman came along and sucked a not as smart guy named Homer. Fitting.
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by EREX21 on Apr 12, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
WOW…..sucked = suckered
Wow. There’s no coming back from that.
Pun NOT intended.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I am aware of that, what is your point?
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
You said “Homer…how fitting” I was just mentioning his name isn’t Homer.
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Not technically. But given his ability to GM, Homer is more fitting than Paul.
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He wasn’t.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s 9:45AM in Vancouver. We can do this before they get out of class/morning meetings.
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Prediction:
As much as I love Lappy and really think he deserves it, there is no way the Masterton trophy goes to anyone but Ray Emery this year.
My thoughts exactly. Lappy maybe one of the nominees but Emery has it lock, stock and two smoking goalie pads.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 12, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus M, why
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Probably has urbandictionary bookmarked, if not made into his home page by now. On a separate user account of course.
HAHAHAHA
And only on my ipad, not the home computer! Most of this is now in jest but really why would I need to know some of the ‘shit’ that gets said around here.
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Dude, if you don’t know at least some of what we’re talking about you’re likely doing it wrong.
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Oh I am sorry but this shit started over somebody wanting Buffglien? to toss his salad. I sure as shit hope I am not doing that right. But if that is how you roll carry on. I guess there is nothing wrong that. The sploshing thing I just never heard before and like I said who doesn’t dig a whip cream bikini.
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Well that is about where I was off the tracks. As far as not knowing who Bree Olson was well I am not a porn person. Not that there is anything wrong with that but I am just not around it. And as for all these acronyms I am not the age group who throws them around so I throw myself on the mercy of the court.
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To actually acknowledge some of the articles above...
This cracks me up:
2.94 Hartnell Downs per game is comparable to the following things:
*Amount of women Jeff Carter or Mike Richards sleeps with during a post game party
*Amount of orgasms per second caused by a Claude Giroux deke
*Amount of times Pierre McGuire thinks about Mike Richards per second of a Flyers broadcast
*Amount of Elbows Chris Pronger throws per shift
*Amount of heart attacks Peter Laviolette has per game because of Bobrovsky’s puck handling.
And for “The team supposedly has a game plan to beat Ryan Miller,” I was hoping the answer was shoot the goddamn puck.
Obviously getting shots and traffic on [Ryan] Miller is huge tooIt is.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
:)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine the original quote from Legein would be “I just regained conciousness and found my phone, inna ditch 5 miles from our team party”
In other AHL hijinx, I thought this was kinda classy:
http://gocheckers.com/news/more/index.html?article_id=445
Pronger:
Pronger said to watch him tomorrow in practice to see if he shoots; hinted it may be a benchmark day for him and GM Holmgren concurred. – tpanotch
Of Philadelphia:
I always think it's a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem.
Pronger says he feels good and has skated 7 days in a row.
- philabright
Of Philadelphia:
I always think it's a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem.
And if you wish for an nhl. com article on this situation:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=559385
Of Philadelphia:
I always think it's a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem.
Why do I get the feeling that Pronger telling the beat writers “watch if I shoot” is hinting that his hand is fine and he’ll start practice by firing pucks at the press corps?
I would pay real money to see this.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
…as would I. :)
I think he’ll play in game 1, and he’s just messing with everyone right now.
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Cone of Shame:
I’m sure someone will collect all of the BUF-PHI series predictions sometime before Thursday, but these always make me laugh. For posterity, I want a list of all the analysts/experts/commentators who foresee on upset. So, here we go:
USA Today (and they were only asked to pick one upset out of eight matchups):
Mike Brehm
Justin Bourne
Bob Duff
Gary Graves
Brad Windsor
ESPN:
Matthew Barnaby
John Buccigross
Linda Cohn
E.J. Hradek
Pierre LeBrun
Steve Levy
Pro Hockey Talk:
Matt (no last name I can find)
I can’t find TSN’s. Melrose and Burnside picked the Flyers, as did CBC’ Tim Wharnsby and Joe and James at PHT.
To be fair there’s nothing in it for them to pick the favorite, especially when it’s a favorite that everyone loves to hate on the national circuit.
If they pick the upset they can say “see, look how well I know hockey.”
NHL writers, none of whom I recognize:
Roarke
Rosen
Masisak
Lozo
And, to steal some from Travis’ SBN article, Brophy of Sportsnet.ca and the THN staff both picked the Flyers.
Eastern picks from SBNation.com writers: http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2011/4/12/2106643/nhl-playoffs-2011-predictions
Three of four took the Flyers.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 12, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Smart people. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
On the same list, someone picked the Pens in four over the Bolts – file that in the “no-fucking-way” folder…
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when did Gary Bettman work for SBN?
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by Chemistry66 on Apr 12, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahaha!
Rec’d.
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A funny list. :)
Of course, we can’t be surprised that Barnaby is picking the Sabres, can we?
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
In relation to slightly old news...
I managed to sneak a mention of the Flyers’ slushies into a draft of a group project for a Chem class. And it’s actually relevant.
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That's cool! :)
What is the relevance of the slushies to your group project?
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re doing special posters to learn how to explain chemistry knowledge to the general public. It’s called “Materials Chemistry of Sports”.
My group is doing “Water vs. Sports Drinks” so when I was compiling the draft we had to hand in yesterday, I decided to put a section at the end about new advancements in carbohydrate/electrolyte drinks for the sole purpose of mentioning the slushies. :P
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I like it! :)
Keep up the good work!
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by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 12, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I suggest a project on the viscoelasticity of velveeta cheese.
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Too late, Don. Draft was due yesterday.
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Too bad, that was my favorite project ever…lots of nachos and mac’n cheese was made after we were done.
For being a 300 level class, that was the easiest project I have ever done.
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Yeah, this is only 5% of our final grade so no one is really caring about it at all.
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This was for a Polymers class. Oh college, how I miss thee.
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This is for Inorganic Chemistry – my professor is also heavily involved in ACS so after coming back from conference, he said they had talked a lot about the International Year of Chemistry and how to de-technical-speak things. He changed a small assignment we had and made it the poster thing.
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Pssh Orgo is where it’s at…but really, basically anything but physical chemistry lab.
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But still mostly yes.
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My god, I love this place...
Arguments over types of Chemistry, in a hockey blog.
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I have never commented on this blog before (even though I’ve been lurking for well over a year and actually joined weeks ago) but this chemistry talk is amazing. Initially visited for the hockey talk, stayed because of the discussions on, quite literally, everything. This has become my favorite place on the internet…
Welcome
Do you have any preference to goaltender masks and their place in motivation or competition?
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Thanks guys!
And I aesthetically prefer some goalie masks to others but as to the motivation/competition I don’t care if Bob has a picture of a Bree Olson on his mask as long as he stops the puck.
/yes I’m as snarky as everyone else on here
/I’m also female and figure I should get this out there as soon as possible to avoid any mix-ups like there have been before
Nicely Done!
Oh your feisty and you have been doing some homework.
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I’m sure you already know…but watch out for Geoff now that he knows you’re female.
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by DLJr on Apr 12, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome!
There are several female hockey fans here, including me. That’s another one of the cool things about this blog. *fist bump
Also, I know Don has mentioned that NHL players wouldn’t get distracted by an opposing goalie’s mask, but I think a Bree Olsen mask would prove him wrong.
Oh, I don't know. I think the GM should sign that free agent velociraptor to fortify the bench. He's a playoff veteran who still shows a lot of hustle.
by LeepinLizardz on Apr 12, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay! Stay! Rejoice!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 12, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Were you around when Todd, myself, and few others debated which type of electron microscope would work best in an analogy? It’s always been like this….
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL I don’t even remember winning (did I, really?); it’s just the earliest memory I have of a conversation that went truly off topic
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 12, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I also like inorganic better. Organic reactions take too damn long.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
F too long. Too long was having to weigh out 0.001mg of something for a Physical Chemistry lab, but having that take 37 minutes because you have something that causes you to shake all the time…oh and the lab TA was not allowed to help you. F you Physical Chemistry lab, and the horse you rode in on.
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My P-Chem labs actually weren’t that bad.
It’s the Inorgo labs that are frustrating because some of these things have to reflux for a bajillion hours for the crystals to form.
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My favorite chemistry lab test ever was when we were each given a small bowl of copper shavings, of which only the teacher knew the mass. We had a long list of reactions and processes to put it through and at the end had to bring it back to pure copper. From the mass (and maybe other properties) of the copper you obtained at the end, the teacher judged how well you did. It was awesome.
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Did that in Gen Chem. My group got the best yield at the end.
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I have body tremors…it made a lot of P Chem labs very frustrating for me. So my experience was probably a little different. Also, we were require to write 40+ page lab reports for every lab…that sucked donkey d.
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I get ganglion cysts in my wrists, elbows, and shoulders at random. Whenever I have one, my strength and coordination in that arm get completely shot. I was useless in two physics labs because of that – one was dissecting a cow’s eye to examine the lens structure, the other was handling (mildly) radioactive material. During both of them, I had a cyst the size of a shooter marble in my wrist, and couldn’t even close my hand fully.
Bob.
Fine, I’ll elaborate:
Organic chemistry has become sophisticated enough that very very few opportunities exist to do something truly novel and unique. There are lots of jobs in it, but most of those jobs are glorified technician positions where the most valued traits are productivity and precision, not innovation and courage.
Inorganic chemistry has way more unknowns and to-be-discovereds. There aren’t nearly as many jobs, but it’s a lot more of an exciting discovery science.
Also, “orgo” as a shorthand makes me retch.
That’s fine, and I appreciate that from a lab/bench scale perspective, but as a Chemical Engineer I am coming from a different place, and gained a different type of enjoyment from chemistry.
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from a lab/bench scale perspective
My primary responsibility in my current job is scaling for a large-scale production plant.
But whereas in organic chemistry that would be just engineering (to use a phrase that drove the engineers batty at my old job), it is voodoo (to use the phrase they countered with) and discovery science to develop the scalable process in my field.
If I enjoyed chemistry as much as you did (which I still enjoyed, just to a lesser extent), I would have gotten my degree in chemistry. I enjoyed designing packed bed reactors, and bubble tray distillation columns. So I am not in anyway offended by the word engineering.
That said, school quickly ruined the fun I found in any of the things I initially found joy in, and I turned to Economics in grad school.
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Haha, it’s not “engineering” that was offensive, but they didn’t like it when we’d say “and at that point, it’s just engineering.”
Their response was always to say something like “OK, so you guys will do your voodoo to make this first part work…”
The progression for me was funny, I loved Chemistry, but since you got more of that up front, college slowly ruined it for me, and I found the engineering aspect more and more interesting. Then college ruined that too as time went on. Luckily the Masters only lasted a year and a half…so I got out just before Economics was ruined for me.
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I’m actually liking the Analytical stuff. My Mass Spec class is frustrating, but interesting.
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I really enjoyed Analytical Chemistry. I thought it was like Gen Chem on steroids and it actually helped me understand Gen Chem a lot better (which was great since I taught recitations for Gen Chem for 3 years after that). I hated Instrumental, although I recognize why it is important.
I hated my Analytical Chem class because my professor was annoying and didn’t teach very well. I haven’t taken Instrumental yet because I wanted to take Forensics last semester so I pushed Instrumental to next Fall.
The class I’m taking now is solely about Mass Spec and it’s kind of cool to see how it works.
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I just found out that today was “National Grilled Cheese Day”… .so I think we should eat one for Giroux/ I had one for lunch today without knowing about the holiday!
Also, in class tonight we had to write our “favorite website” and I was going to write BSH :)
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