ECQF Game 4: Ryan Miller brilliant again as Sabres, officials mug Flyers en route to 1-0 win
by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2011 10:51 PM EDT
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Eastern Conference Quarterfinals -- Series tied, 2-2
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There's no doubt about the difference in tonight's Game 4 between the Flyers and Sabres. Ryan Miller was absolutely brilliant, making 32 saves to secure the victory. But let's not pretend that Miller was the only reason the Sabres tied the series at 2-2 as we head back to Philadelphia.
The Buffalo defense also deserves a ton of credit, breaking up cross-ice passes with frequency throughout the evening, successfully preventing the Flyers from making Miller move from post-to-post. They clogged the middle much like they did in Game 1, and it's increasingly looking like the defense and Miller need each other to have a strong, game-changing kind of evening. It happened in Game 1 and it happened again tonight.
Of course, the Flyers had their chances. Danny Briere, James van Riemsdyk and Mike Richards all had prime chances to tie the score in the third period alone. If the power play is capable of doing anything, there's a great chance the Flyers come out on top in this game. Miller and the Sabres defense aside, the finish just wasn't there tonight at even strength or on the power play.
We'd be remiss without mentioning the horrible officiating. For essentially the last 25 minutes of the game, the Flyers controlled just about everything in terms of the attack. If Francois St. Laurent doesn't rob them of five extra attack time minutes at the start of the third period, maybe they get a chance by Miller.
But instead, the Sabres are right back in the series. The stranglehold is nowhere to be found, and on Friday night in Philly, we'll be looking for another vital win. Things will have to change, but then again, a lot of things will have to stay the same.
After the jump, a few quick notes, questions with answers and the comment of the night.
- I don't think I've ever seen Peter Laviolette angrier than he was at the officials tonight, and rightfully so. They've been bad all series and bad all playoffs long, but tonight was just a travesty. Francois St. Laurent deserves to lose his job. He has a history of being bad (remember that call on Kimmo Timonen in OT against the Coyotes a few months ago?) and just should not be officiating in the NHL.
- James van Riemsdyk was an animal tonight. He deserved about 10 goals tonight, not even kidding. The fourth line was also fantastic throughout the game.
- Patrick Kaleta is a horrible, horrible person.
- Nathan Gerbe took a run at Kimmo Timonen at the end of the game. The Sabres have really shown their true colors throughout this series, and that kind of stuff really says a lot.
- Seriously though, Ryan Miller is pretty incredible. It's scary.
- Jeff Carter left the game in the first period after colliding with Tyler Myers. There was a chance he could have returned in the game, so hopefully it's not all that serious. The Flyers are calling it a lower-body injury.
- Hey, a lot of us knew this would be a long series. Miller can't steal the whole thing, and hey, the Sabres were horrible in that third period. Let's go, Flyers.
Questions with Answers
- More Booooosh? Boosh was great again.
- Can Jeff Carter continue to break out? He got hurt.
- Is the penalty kill better? The penalty kill was fantastic, especially on the major.
- I think Danny Briere is going to have a good game tonight. Does Danny Briere have a good game tonight? Briere was good.
- Commanding series lead? Go to hell.
Comment of the Night
If I wanted to see a bunch of assholes in black and white take over a game, I'd be a White Sox fan.
>> corwhore
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
honey bunny
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by DirtyWaters on Apr 20, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Jules, you give that nimrod $1,500 and I’m going to shoot him on general principle.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 20, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think JVR just bought a wallet that says “Bad Motherfucker” on it
by Prometheus74 on Apr 20, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Any of you fucking pricks move, and I’ll execute every motherfucking last one of ya!
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I forgot what was going on here at first and read the first part of your comment and gasped.
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I win.
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In the fifth, your ass goes down. Say it.
by Prometheus74 on Apr 20, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That gives us exactly… forty minutes to get the fuck out of Dodge. Which, if you do what I say when I say it, should be plenty. Now, you’ve got a corpse in a car, minus a head, in a garage. Take me to it.
by Prometheus74 on Apr 20, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Say what I again, I dare you!
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Now… I been sayin’ that shit for years. And if you ever heard it, that meant your ass. You’d be dead right now. I never gave much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was a cold-blooded thing to say to a motherfucker before I popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some shit this mornin’ made me think twice. See, now I’m thinking: maybe it means you’re the evil man. And I’m the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here… he’s the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you’re the righteous man and I’m the shepherd and it’s the world that’s evil and selfish. And I’d like that. But that shit ain’t the truth. The truth is you’re the weak. And I’m the tyranny of evil men. But I’m tryin’, Ringo. I’m tryin’ real hard to be the shepherd.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
they’re just displaying their lack of commitment
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
MMMMmmmMMMmmm, this sure is one tasty burger!
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by MeszarosKillsPeople on Apr 21, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The cornerstone
of any breakfast!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 21, 2011 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions
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SAY IT AGAIN, I DARE YOU, I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 21, 2011 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t see Gerbe’s run at Kimmo, I was in the middle of several things at once, but if Kimmo was going to respond, a ball-tap was NOT the best idea.
I missed it too. You’d think maybe they’d learn their lesson after how Kaleta’s attempt to take a run at Kimmo the other night turned out, but I guess not.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck Buffalo
Fuck Pittsburgh
Fuck the caps
Fuck tonight sucks!
by Prometheus74 on Apr 20, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
After the players wet dow the tunnel to the dressing room
This is how he ended his discussion with the refs
by Prometheus74 on Apr 20, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. Ridiculous effort all over these playoffs in the officiating department.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
you need to add in the reaction from the young girl behind the glass to the right…it was priceless
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by DirtyWaters on Apr 20, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If Carter can’t go on Friday, who will be in the lineup for him?
How close is Nodl to playing (was he a healthy scratch tonight? or is he still injured?).
If not Nodl, it won’t be Shelley, will Black Ace Wellwood be suiting up?
A ranger just lost it for them, and it wasnt the goalie
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by sophiejo on Apr 20, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Gaborik, tried to sweep a puck to the corner when he was about to freeze it, hit the Caps player, right into the crease, goal. Goatf*ck there for sure.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a stupid decision on his part. Goalies traction said it all.
"There's cool, and then there's Claude Giroux"
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by sophiejo on Apr 20, 2011 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*reaction
"There's cool, and then there's Claude Giroux"
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by sophiejo on Apr 20, 2011 11:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, clearly had it under control.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
awww, no witty caption for my man being mugged? Darn.
I’m increadibly proud of Carcillo. He was continuously shat on tonight, from Miller, the Refs, Kaleta, the list goes on. He played extrodinarily strong offensively, created many oppurtunities and shot on net. He kept his cool, whereas old Carcillo would have been ejected somewhere around the first period. That being said, I give him full permission, even encouragement, to get even with Kaleta and hope he does so. Sabres just took advantage of the situation and continued to play dirty without getting penalized. Lavvy needs to light the Carbomb and watch him blowup.
Also, I think in the bullets it needs to be mentioned the strength of the fourth line tonight
Soon to be Sestitos Stache
I didn’t hate Miller for his stupid bullshit chirping about Briere, but I hate him for punching Carcillo in the chin with no call. Really dirty play. Carcillo was a prince.
Miller was penalized and Carcillo received a roughing call for laying on his back
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by DirtyWaters on Apr 20, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and getting kicked! Don’t forget getting kicked!
Maybe the roughing was for him being roughed around?
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by Cillo stache on Apr 20, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, Miller only made contact with the stick when he tried to kick Carbomb.
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Seconded on the fourth-line kudos. Powe, Betts, and Carcillo had the most sustained o-zone pressure, had some real scoring chances, made nice hits, and generally made Coates cream in his boxers during the game. (“the Flyers have just been DOMINATING this last couple minutes or so”, says Coatesie, even though before Betts came on Briere’s line couldn’t get outta their own zone.)
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
by MaximumTalbot on Apr 21, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Refs
The NHL needs to step in. This series is getting out of hand quickly. It’s hardly even hockey at this point.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
But if the NHL steps in, does that make the situation better or worse?
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesnt matter, if it helps good, if not it becomes a circus and the league becomes nothing but a big joke.
So then it’s still status quo? It’s already a joke
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see Slap Schtick today?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a worse? Jist watched at least two guys get tackled. literally, in the Rags game. No calls. One was while a guy was attempting to take a shot on gaol.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that something should be done, my problem is just that I don’t trust the NHL to make it better. I’m sorry, I just don’t see them fixing it if they try to step in; I see them defending their ref’s judgement and trying to save face (even though it will actually make them look worse)
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is what they always do. Bettman was talking earlier this year about getting it right, even if it’s slow sometimes. Sorry buddy, fastest indoor game in the world. Not enough time for slow. Consistency is the biggest problem. If you are a good ref and call the same thing both ways all game long, you are never in the way, the players should know what is and isn’t a penalty. But as Coatsey said tonight in the third "you’re not going to get those calls right now. Joke. What happens 30 seconds after you let some guy get away with a X check and then someone clears it out of play for a delay? It’s a joke all around.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone posted this at another forum I visit, but with no sauce.
It’s not often the NHL cops to a mistake but when a goal is as far offside as was the Chicago Blackhawks’ second Tuesday night, there’s not much point in pretending otherwise.
Scored in large part because of the momentum generated from the questionable too many men on the ice penalty assessed by a linesman against Vancouver two minutes and 16 seconds before the goal in question was scored, the Hawks took the lead for good at 5:18, Brian Campbell’s go-ahead goal a clear blunder by linesmen Jean Morin and Derek Nansen.
"I said to Mike (Canucks GM Gillis) yes, it was offside but they did score five more," said series supervisor and recent B.C. Hockey Hall of Fame inductee Rob Shick who was one of the best referees in the game at the time of his retirement two years ago. "He acknowledged he was well aware of those."
by SuburbanElite on Apr 21, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither, but I am sure whatever they do will be good for a laugh or two.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
And with DGB, maybe three or four.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
So pissed
Besides the fact that the two games I’ve watched live with other Flyers this series have been loses (and tonight there were a few dick Pens fans), this game sucked.
I felt about the second half of the second period it would be a 1-0 game. The Flyers didn’t challenge Miller till the third period (and yes, he was pretty good). They looked listless and uninterested. They seemed to think they could do anything and they would win. And that completely bullshit call against Richards was totally unacceptable.
Still, Boosh was good enough for a win. Except the Flyers kept shooting themselves in the foot. Wake up idiots!
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
Perhaps these other Flyers who are casually watching the game with you would consider lacing up the skates and playing a bit???
/hintzied
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
by MaximumTalbot on Apr 21, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re most often the one who catches such slips, and injects some humor into your comment. I was merely trying to fill the temporary void.
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
by MaximumTalbot on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
a votre service
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
by MaximumTalbot on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Time for Snider, Holmgren and Laviolette to call out the refs and the NHL!
Tonight was BS but this has been boiling over since the lockout. Surprise Lindy is whining about the refs like he normally does but when the refs are in your pocket, you don’t have to whine and complain.
If other teams can call out the refs and the NHL and get calls the next game, why can’t the Flyers?
Flyers in 6. It’s a new series, and dear God, i really don’t think Buffalo has a chance in the WFC on Friday. It’s gonna be a meaner brand of hockey.
Never been more confident, Buffalo is a one trick pony, and once that pony’s feel down, this team cant get back up.
History will be made, Ryan Miller will be out-dueled by Ryan Miller in the playoffs
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 20, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
2nd Ryan Miller = Brian Boucher
the anger in these finger tips is unmistakable.
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought you had a psychology thing going there. Didn’t want to stop you since you were on a roll.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Animal House style
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 20, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
There ya go
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
“Simon says”
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the best villans ever
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 20, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah this recent performance as the Pope of Satan I think puts him up there in the best villians category.
I just remember this line from Die Hard:
“Gu gu gullibility of the United States of America”
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 20, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If your into film and you like Irons, you have to see Deadringers if you haven’t. Cronenberg at his best.
cronenberg and wim wenders in a single flyers thread. well done.
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
If you could do anything to anyone participating in that game, who and what would that be?
Soon to be Sestitos Stache
Pat Boosh on the back and say “Great game. You did everything you needed to.”
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You’d never find the body of Francois St. Laurent, patron saint of bad referees.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Kaleta. My foot. His face. Repeatedly.
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
bdawk4ever, with his foot, in the dining room?
We could make a Clue game outta this!!
Soon to be Sestitos Stache
by Cillo stache on Apr 20, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d tell Richie he did the right thing. NOt to be cryptic, but I’ll address it below somewhere.
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
by MaximumTalbot on Apr 21, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
with a follow-on question: Did Kimmo really spear Gerbe in the nuts as they’re saying on DBTB and that’s what sparked the brawl?
Sarauj, Latvija!
Cause if so, that’s awwwwweeesome.
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
Isn’t payback a bitch sometimes? Get away with the cheap shit all night then get that for your troubles.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well maybe if they weren’t all o hellbent on trying to take Kimmo out, he wouldn’t be such a vengeful god.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Carter
It’s clearly his knee. Pretty sure it was hyper extended.
Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners
Who was Miller talking about?
From his postgame presser
“I don’t need to listen to the BS out there from people who don’t know how to play Goalie, I really dont give a expletive”
Was that more Briere chirp?
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by sophiejo on Apr 20, 2011 11:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He’s probably talking about the media. The Buffalo media were hard on him after Game 3, namely I believe some wanted him to be pulled for Enroth Game 4.
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The goal tonight shows maybe a good reason why Z’s a healthy scratch often. His fault if I remember correctly.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, it was bad
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by DirtyWaters on Apr 20, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
just fucking coasting back, let them have a tap-in. Boosh was perfect and couldn’t have stopped this one.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Carter, Giroux, and Zherdev were all up high, Syvret was against the boards taking his man, Carle was trying to cover his man. Zherdev was late getting to the crease to cover the incoming Sabre. Z should have picked him up. It was his man.
To be fair, Giroux’s turnover left everyone out of position
by mantis toboggan on Apr 20, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure looked like he was coasting though. Seemed like he had time to get back to his man.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll have to watch the highlights to be sure. And I really don’t want to.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
if it’s possible. NHL.com video is just fucking horrible. It’s so slow loading that I turned it off.
The NHL video player is horrible. You can’t pause it or you have to start over, plus it stops every 10 seconds
by mantis toboggan on Apr 20, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No, and he can’t be held accountable
by mantis toboggan on Apr 20, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You can put the best video player in the world on a site, if it doesn’t have enough bandwidth….
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 21, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t see a turn over by Giroux. Carter couldn’t handle the puck in the neutral zone, turnover, the Sabres enter the zone Matt Carle tips the puck away from the Sabre and all three forwards go after like they’re gonna rush. Puts all three way out of position when Zherdev tried to get back but realized it was too late and so he coasted.
I had a bad feeling about the play from the get go. Z lingered above the blue line for a majority of the play hoping for a turnover to spring him into a breakaway. If he goes back on D the man gets covered. Hell, if he does more than coast after Pomerville is already in the zone, the goal probably doesnt happen.
personally
I think the Devils and Kovalchuk should now sue the NHL for age discrimination. They’re essentially saying he CAN’T play until he’s 44.
Go Devils
by FrankG929 on Aug 9, 2010 5:15 PM PDT
Meh, on second thought after watching the play a few more times Zherdev probably should have been booking for the slot considering Myers was so high, but he and Carter both over-pursued Syvret’s poke check horribly. I’m also not sure what benefit Giroux sealing off Carter’s man did there, but once he did it immediately gave Buffalo an advantage.
Let’s hope Miller follows up this shutout like he did the last one.
So I was in class/meetings for all of this game…. and tried to follow on the 1st period thread. But I think I’m happy that I didn’t watch this game?
Maddening is the right word to describe it.
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Madden'ing
Here’s a guy who stops shots. He’s the GOALIE.
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
Words cannot describe how pissed off I am right now—at this game, the officiating, at Ryan Miller and his peophile-like pornstache and sideburns who can’t keep his punanay shut in front of any camera who will film him, at the bad luck, the seeming disinterest of the Flyers in the beginning of the game, but mostly whatever hockeygods out there who didn’t allow one of those eleventy billion shots on goal at the end of the game (hyperbole, sure) to go in (even with one of the Sabres covering up so it should have been a penalty shot for the Flyers).
The Flyers pretty much dominated this game in every possible way but the score for the last 2 periods. Come back and beat these dirty muthergrabbers back to the stone age, which in Buffalo time is like last week. I want revenge for 2006, Goddamnit!
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
by doubleh on Apr 20, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Also, nice dive, Kaleta. I give you a 10. Fucking asshole.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
You mean on the Riche elbow, correct? Right there with that comment. Should have been two on Kaleta for “acting”
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he’s an uber douche. He will get what’s coming to him if there is a God.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
my issue is this: why is it that Buffalo’s piece of shit gets all the respect in the world when someone harms him, while our (I won’t call him a piece of shit, but you see what I mean) ends up in the box for getting mauled all game??
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Refs are inconsistent. League is inconsistent. All BS.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I was not expecting to see that handle at the end of that rant. I’m right there with you, sista.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve had 5 glasses of wine and I am in rare fucking form. Do not. mess. with. me. I really could kill someone right now. With my bare hands. Tear them apart like pulled fricken pork.
Also, see the guys coming off the ice at the end of the game? Briere points at the camera and is like, “Turn that thing off.” I’ve never seen these guys so angry—not even at Pittsburgh.
Things could get really ugly on Friday.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Things will get ugly Friday, and we can all count of the refs to be there to “control” it.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. They lost control of this one quickly by calling the game tightly in the beginning, and then loosening up the whistles before being all over the place on penalties.
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I’ll say it till I’m blue in the face. C.o.n.s.i.s.t.e.n.c.y.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
This ref with the score to settle, Francois la Douche or whatever his name is—reminds me of Scott Barry last year in MLB. No fucking clue what he’s doing but has totally big balls when he’s out there on the ice. This guy should be fired. Everyone else in the world who sucks at their job gets fired.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Barry should have been sent back to the minors. Laurent should be sent to Siberia.
The Duke abides.
by corwhore on Apr 20, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would be nice to see him removed from the series. It does happen, but don’t count on it. It’s just such bullshit that they call all these soft penalties (like the first one on the Flyers and second on the Sabres), and then let something real go because there’s already a PP or whatever… no consistency whatsoever.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Francois St. Laurent was the idiot who called the penalty on Timonen in the Phoenix game earlier this year.
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I know, and then Lavvy and others publicly criticized him. I’m not saying he had a vendetta, but I am going to put it out there so you can interpret however you like…
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Has Francois St. Laurent officiated other Flyers games since then? I’d be curious to see that.
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I don’t know, but the Flyers crew pointed out that there was another controversial game he reffed in LA, I think. Somewhere out west where he directly impacted a game.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I’m really tempted to write a script that will allow me to do a massive query of the scoresheets for these kinds of things next season; it seems like we always end up with ridiculous questions like this that we’re all curious about
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 21, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a game log, at least not that I can find (flyershistory will have our boxscores, but not league wide stuff). There’s a ton of information in the multiple stat sheets posted on NHL.com for every game, but going through them all manually would be ridiculous. Knowing the way my mind usually works, I’d be sitting there one day writing a script for something else and I’d end up coming up with a brilliant idea for handling the NHL stuff.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 21, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks to Flyers History, I have found the answer
It’s two since Lavi chided him for that bad call in Phoenix.
He referred the 7-0 Rangers massacre and the 4-3 OT loss to Atlanta in the middle of March (the 2nd Atlanta game that month).
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You win the BSH
" at Ryan Miller and his peophile-like pornstache"
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
I saw him on postgame presser. I was, like, we gotta eliminate these sunsabitches if for no other reason than to get this guy a razor so the children in Buffalo can sleep at night knowing he isn’t prowling the streets. /not insinuating he’s an actual pedophile, he just LOOKS like one
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, Millers rapin everybody!
Must…shave….Millers….stache…
Soon to be Sestitos Stache
by Cillo stache on Apr 21, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Pssst, Todd
The Ducks tied the series at 2. The Predators cannot win 4 or 5 games now.
I win.
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If there have been 4 games played, three yet to go, and the Preds won two, win an additional two that would be 4, correct? Or am I missing something?
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Todd bet that the Preds would win in a sweep or in game 5.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh, he forgot the most important word, in.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops, that should be "win in 4 or 5 games.
He said Preds would, citing advanced stats that made him correct about how Preds were a better hockey team. I hold steadfast and said it would take more than 5 games to beat the Ducks. There will be a Game 6. Therefore, I win.
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Flyers Theme Music for Game 5
Should be this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoaUYcwEpSw
UNSTOPPABLE
There will be battle, I cannot guarantee you that everyone survives the night, so kiss your wives goodbye for we go to battle soon…
by Bob's Crab Emporium on Apr 20, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
And your husbands for the ladies here (didn’t want to leave you out)
by Bob's Crab Emporium on Apr 20, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The song for the Sabres in game 5...
returning to the land of cheese steaks which their fans hold with such contempt…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uL8XPf0CC0
No one to call, everybody to fear,
Your tragic fate is looking so clear
It’s your fucking Nightmare, Buffalo.
I hail from New Sanfranadelphia, apparently.
He was everywhere out there… anyone opposed to a broken-handed Pronger just standing in front of Miller on the PP like last year vs. NJ? We’re gonna be short some forwards…
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s very, very good. He’s so much faster and stronger than seemingly everyone
by mantis toboggan on Apr 20, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
ALSO
To whoever’s up there: you know it is possible/allowable for BOTH teams to win on any given day. Don’t make me come up there.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Whoever’s Up There has more important things to worry about than sports, I’m afraid. I’m pretty sure that Whoever’s Up There doesn’t give a rat’s ass about sports at all.
That’s not to say I disagree with you… the way things have been going with the Phillies and Flyers recently, I was worried for the Flyers as soon as I heard that the Phillies won today.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Every time Polly homers, the Flyers get shut out.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
That’s from the lesser known sequel to “It’s a Wonderful Life.” (a movie I hate with the white hot intensity of 1000 suns BTW)
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Haha, it’s the reverse of the whole “angel gets its wings” business.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Why does everyone love that movie? I find it treacly, polyanna bullshit.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I could care less about that movie, so I cannot answer your question.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
couldn’t care less.
this is a huge pet peeve of mine, not that you care, I’m sure.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 21, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Pronger
I should’ve posted this as a new topic when I said it above.
Thoughts on bringing Pronger in in a reduced role, like just standing in front of the net on the pp like last year vs NJ?
Might help the pp (there are enough opportunities in this series), and it looks like we’ll be missing some forwards as it is.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 20, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
Everyone Calm Down.
Good game, bad results. It’s hockey.
If the Flyers lose this series, it will be largely because of Miller.
If the Flyers win this series, it will be because they are rewarded for all of the things they’re doing well.
I don’t remember who said the Flyers looked “disinterested,” but I don’t know what game that person was watching. Buffalo had a better start to the game, yes. The Flyers had the better game overall and lost.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
It was me and it’s because I am pissed off and semi-drunk. The very beginning of the game the Sabres controlled then the Flyers took over. They lost because of bad luck, officiating and Ryan Pornstache Miller.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Also, I’ll calm down tomorrow. Normally I am quite rational but as I said above I am pissed off and on the warpath. I want some butts!
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
by doubleh on Apr 21, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As long as you don’t mean cigarette butts, then warpath away!
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I’m quoting that celluloid masterpiece, “Top Gun”.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
The plaque for the alternates is up in the ladies room
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The list is long but distinguished, like my johnson.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
You must have carnal knowledge of the lady this time, on the premises
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Because I was inverted.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
“About 2 meters”
“It was more like 1 and a half”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Love the made-for-TV version where they replace “bullshit” with “milkney.” Whatever that is.
“I just want you to know that you can be my wingman anytime.”
“Milkney. You can be mine.”
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Like in Breakfast Club where they turn “Eat my shorts” to “Eat my socks” or something similarly lame.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Sorry, best one was still Police Academy when the guy says HOOOOOLY SHIIIIIT really enunciating the words so a blind man can read his lips and the dubbed in Damn.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 21, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, my top two are still:
- “Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?”
- “I’ve had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this monday to friday plane!”
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
I want some butts
No one?
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Negative ghostrider, the pattern is full
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s right, Ice-man, I am dangerous.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
There’s 2 O’s in Goose boys
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel the need, the need for speed.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
You two characters…are going to Top Gun
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I said to Hollywood, where’d he go and Hollywood said where’d who go?
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“And he’s laughing at us on the radio”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
No, below the harddeck does not count. (dude, I could do this all night. this movie came out when I was 14. I must have watched it 700 times)
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
This movie came out before I was born (86, i was born in 89) but this was one of the few VHS that was around for me growing up. This and the Bodyguard, also, Days of Thunder
“You know, the finger?”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I know the finger, Goose. I’m sorry, I hate it when it does that.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
“Over 5 air control towers, and one Admiral’s daughter!”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Penny Bejamin!
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
“And you asshole, you’re lucky to even be here”
nitpicking: I’m pretty sure Goose says that to Maverick in more of a questioning tone
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he says it in an incredulous hushed tone.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
“And Maverick, you always go home with the hot women”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3-zaTr6OUo
personally
I think the Devils and Kovalchuk should now sue the NHL for age discrimination. They’re essentially saying he CAN’T play until he’s 44.
Go Devils
by FrankG929 on Aug 9, 2010 5:15 PM PDT
awesome
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Fucking pornstache
And just semi? I’m at 4 on a 0-5 scale.
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
Dude, I am Norwegian and Swiss. I have an insanely high tolerance for alcohol. 1 bottle of wine won’t get me totally drunk.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Awesome. I’m 1/4 German, and some parts Irish. I drink a fifth of Jack Daniels on a good night.
God save the world if we ever got together to watch a Flyers game.
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
What else is there to do in Norway BUT drink? Play hockey, I suppose.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
(Note to self: MOVE TO NORWAY)
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
Oslo is the most expensive city in the world, I think.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I think lots of shit is legal up there IIRC. I know kids who wanted to go into the exchange program had to be at least 18 to go to Scandinavia.
My people are sick. Sick, I tell you. ;-)
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
HAHAHA. That’s my Uncle. Just kidding.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Not going to be able to sleep now, thanks.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 21, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Good game, bad results, second time in one fucking series. That’s pretty much what bothers me most. Dominate a good portion of the game (according to the EYE test, double check tomorrow with the scoring chances report) and when Miller isn’t insanely good he gets just enough luck.
shots were almost equal, I’m guessing scoring chances were also close.
by Fawk_the_Hawks on Apr 21, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with this
This time last week I was just hoping that a real team would show up and they have for four straight games for the first time in months. I’m happy with the way they are playing. If Miller and his bodyguards shut them out four games helmets off to them.
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Two O'Clock (AM) number
2- Shutouts by Ryan Miller against the Flyers in the playoffs
(Sidenumber- 0→ shutouts by Flyers in 86 games)
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
Versus just showed video of Peter Laviolette slamming the bench door shut on his way to the locker room after the game.
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Good
I like to see him pissed.
Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.
Was he yelling "Have another croissant!"???
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hockey history tonight
Perhaps the last 20 minutes in Phoenix
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
oh, and Brian Engblom called Jiri Hudler “Hitler”
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
whoever is doing the play-by-play for versus in the red wings game is pretty good. short, crisp descriptions with good visual language. a sense of drama without screaming his head off.
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Looking for the positives
1) The Flyers played a pretty damn good game tonight. Came out a bit tentative, but with the efforts of the fourth line got motivated and played very well.
2) Boucher – on point. Doesn’t matter who the backup is right now.
3) After serving his (undeserved) major for wearing orange, Richie immediately skated over to the bench and fist-bumped Powe, Betts, and G for bailing out the team. That’s a captain.
4) If Kimmo is pissed enough to throw punches, you know the team is motivated for Game 5.
5) Reports are that Carter may have injured his right knee. With any luck at all, he’ll return from injury and lead the team to victory a la Gagne.
6) Considering how one-sided the officiating seemed, kudos to the team for not getting more frustrated on the ice and getting more calls against themselves.
7) Don’t forget, Miller allowed 8 goals on less than 60 shots over the previous two games – he can be beaten, people.
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
re: point 3. did you see him bouncing up and down in the penalty box as it was winding down? v cool.
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m thinking The Pronger’s retaliation would be bloody, and possibly require the Sabre to get dental surgery.
Bob.
by The Dark on Apr 21, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
3) After serving his (undeserved) major for wearing orange, Richie immediately skated over to the bench and fist-bumped Powe, Betts, and G for bailing out the team. That’s a captain.
Yes, I nearly forgot about that. Did you see him jumping up and down in the penalty box? The PK unit was unbelievable and he did a good job recognizing them for that.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
I was repeatedly told I was mentally ill by my mother during this game.
Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners
You’re a Flyers/Philly fan, so you have to be a little off to start with.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 21, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
CSN apparently never showed a video from this game where Kimmo Timonen allegedly buried his stick in Gerbe’s man parts after the horn sounded. DBTB are adamant that it happened and it is bad.
Did anyone who watched another broadcast see this? Or can anyone find a YouTube video that proves it? Because until I’ve seen it, these allegations are quite unfounded.
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I live in the horrible horrible zone of the world that both gets CSN Washington while somehow also being in the CSN Philly blackout zone (so I can’t even watch via NHL GameCenter). So I’m watching the first round via bootleg streams, and tonight I was treated to the MSG feed.
I hate to say that Timonen’s alleged “stick burying” is 100% true. They showed a replay after the fracas. I was pretty shocked. They didn’t give the clip any context, so I’m unsure what exactly prompted this highly un-Kimmo-like action.
It's like Scotty Bowman said
“It’s not a series until you lose a nut at home.”
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, according to CSN folk someone took a run at Kimmo well after the whistle at the end of the game, not that it makes a nutjab right…just saying there are a lot of moving parts here. It’s not like Buffalo’s a bunch of angels. They were getting away with some dirty shit all night long.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Plus, as you say, it’s very un-Kimmo-like for him to fight or do anything like that. It’s not like he’s Pronger. When Briere jumps in and JVR’s tussling, shit is wrong.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Friday should be great. I remember in ‘87 when they played the Canadiens in that Game 6 pre-game brawl. Mark Howe was sticking guys that game. I can’t wait. Send the kids to bed early.
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point. All this sideshow stuff is yet another reason to get Prongs back ASAP!
I mean, a functioning power play would be also be nice, obviously. But I feel like it’s counterproductive to have these skill players you mention turn their focus on matters usually handled by Capt Elbows.
(Or is that Alternate Capt. Elbows after tonight?)
Lavy Post Game?
I swear that every other coach presser is up but Lavy, anyone find one yet? I want to see what he had to say
personally
I think the Devils and Kovalchuk should now sue the NHL for age discrimination. They’re essentially saying he CAN’T play until he’s 44.
Go Devils
by FrankG929 on Aug 9, 2010 5:15 PM PDT
It’s on the Sabres video center (Sabres NHL tv). Sorry, don’t know how to link. He sounds pretty subdued. He gets asked about slamming the door and he says that he just shut it. Thought the team played really well, best penalty kill of the season in the third and that we were in their zone for most of the third — just couldn’t bury one.
I also watched Ryan Miller and he’s unspeakably arrogant, says he didn’t hit Carcillo, says Danny cheated in the third, says that at the end you just hack slash whatever it takes and as long as you have enough people around the net no one will call it. Unbelievable. I’m still too angry to sleep.
and zetterberg missed the whole series, too. Phoenix doesn’t have a lot of guns and Bryz was only good. Two weeks ago it seemed like a relative off-year in the playoffs for the Wings. Helm and Cleary had great games.
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 21, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it must involve superior scouting, especially in Europe. They keep finding diamonds in the rough with all those late picks.
They all play a system, take their part and do it well. Complete puck control, skate back or drop pass to the D and regroup if necessary.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
by JerseyDriver on Apr 21, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Gandalf
.
…is upset by their performance and the game as a whole tonight.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
that’s not really an “upset” look. More of a worried look.
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 21, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It's sort of amazing
Watching a Goalie Duel between Ryan Miller and Brian Boucher. I mean in 07-08 Bouch was a full time AHL’er and was nearly being outplayed on the Phantoms by Scott Munroe.
"had to take a Campbell and wipe my Bettman" Skeeterman
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Five For Howling is infested with trolls right now, mocking them. Talk about heartless.
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Okay so Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (a pretty bad movie) is much more fun to watch in Spanish.
Just another reason why Kaleta is a scumbag. When Zherdev ended up in the Sabres bench, it was Kaleta who saw Z getting hit against the door and then quickly opened it up, allowing Nik to fall into the bench. Dangerous, unsportsmanlike, scummy move. As expected.
Didn't realize how much of a D-Bag Ryan Miller is until watching this series...
After every god damn whistle he always has to get a shot in on the Flyers. Like they hack away till the whistle blows then they stop yet he still takes it so personally. It’s like dude you have huge fuckin pads on your legs okay? I’ve played goalie before and unless you are getting hit on the back of the leg you can barely even feel sticks on your pads. Plus you have all kinds of body pads… and a mask… It’s not like the Flyers are blatantly hitting him after the whistle.
The whole thing with Carcillo was ridiculous. Weber had him all wrapped up and taken care of but fuckin scrawny ass pederast mustache Ryan Miler had to get some shots in like he’s some kind of tough guy. Yeah it’s easy to take shots at Carcillo when this big ass defenseman has got him all wrapped up for you. Class act there, Ryan. You’re a real fuckin tough guy.
Since we obviously can’t fight Miller (unless Boosh does it), I say if Carter is still hurt next game, we dress Jody Shelly to come out on the ice once and beat the shit out of someone (Kaleta). Then we can just play with 11 forwards the rest of the way… unless of course another asskicking is needed.
Miller is an asshole. We’ve known it for a while, the rest of the world is getting introduced to it. I would pay to see him get tea bagged by Ron Jeremy.
by 92-74-99-96 on Apr 21, 2011 6:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish everyone could have watched the game on the Saber’s network. I live in upstate NY due to being in the military. It was absolutly painful.
I like to think that JJ, Coatsie, and Jonesie (I have to get the NHL package to watch all the Flyer games) are at least informative. These guys couldn’t get even get the players right! Absolute homers.
I hate to blame a loss on the refs. It is a sad and often overused ploy. But last night was a joke. Someone (Lavy, Richards, or Shelly) need to step up and say enough is enough. I can’t even put into words how angry I was last night. If I had a kitten I would have kicked it (no Michael Vick jokes please).
My only suggestion is that the Flyers play there ass off and don’t leave it in the hands of the hack refs.
Out.
It wasn’t shown on the Flyers broadcast, but apparently Timonen speared Gerbe in the balls and thats why he went after him at the end of the game.
Makes sense now.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
Kimmo looked pretty pissed earlier in the game as well – and considering he’s usually cooler than January ice at the North Pole, something was going on. He’s not one to just randomly spear someone’s manbags. (If it had been Pronger, different story.) I think someone on Buffalo’s coaching staff said, “Hey, Pronger’s out, so let’s target their next-best defenseman,” and was acute enough to realize that person is Timonen and not Coburn. I also think Kimmo may remember a certain striped offender from a previous farce … but that horse is quite beaten already.
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
by MaximumTalbot on Apr 21, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Gerbe did try to bull rush him out of the offensive zone so i can’t exactly blame him for getting angry.
But you still don’t spear someone because that makes Colie Campbell angry and he apparently hates the Flyers.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
When’s the last 76ers home game? is it tomorrow?
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
No, they have two home games coming up – tonight and either Saturday or Sunday.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Ice is probably going to be terrible for game 5 then.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
PHEW
For a second there, I thought someone actually gave half a ratfuck if the Sixers were still playing. It’s reassuring to see it was only relation to how it affects hockey.
Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.
by MaximumTalbot on Apr 21, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
THEY SHOULD JUST FORFEIT SO THE ICE IS BETTER FOR GAME FIVE
Also interesting:
Flyers (2 seed): 47 wins
Sabres (7 seed): 43 wins
Heat (2 seed): 58 wins
76ers (7 seed): 41 wins
And one wonders why there are never any upsets in the NBA.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
I REALLY hate blaming things on the refs. I feel lame for doing it. But come on, that was just plain wrong… Roughing on Carcillo? Elbowing on Richie? (How much do you wanna bet the league suspends him for longer than Kunitz tomorrow?) So many missed calls the other way. Ugh.
Either way, Miller was incredible, both in goaltending and douchebaggery.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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