Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: NFL Players Ready To Welcome Gay Teammate

Flyers vs. Bruins means another trip into Jack Edwards' brain

That's NESN's well-known, clearly patriotic gem, Jack Edwards, after Game 7 between the Bruins and Canadiens last night. We've talked about our buddy Jack here many times before, and since then, I'll admit it: the guy has grown on me. Sure, he's utterly insane, but as long as you get where the guy is coming from, you can deal with it. 

That manical message he's spewing there, equating the Bruins to the Americans during the revolution and the Habs to the British monarchy, is one that any Montreal hater like myself (and likely you) can get behind. (Seriously, anybody calling out the arrogance of those in Montreal, no matter the form, gets a good mark in my book.) 

But for every redeeming quality Edwards has -- the laughter he causes, mostly -- there's a bit of what he said this AM on sports talk radio in Boston, in which he completely gets the facts wrong for no apparent reason whatsoever. 

Star-divide

Are we making too much of the Flyers goaltending situation, Jack? The audio from 98.5 The Sports Hub, and the transcript below:

No, not at all. Goaltending is a huge part of winning the Stanley Cup and the fact that Chicago got it from Antti Niemi last year and that Philadelphia almost got it from Michael Leighton last year is a wonderful story, but neither one of those goaltenders had proven themselves in the playoffs. To go with a guy who's not proven is not usually a sound plan.

Brian Boucher, I think, is Philadelphia's No. 1 guy right now with Leighton the backup. Sergei Bobrovsky -- or whatever his first name is -- you know, the Russian kid who played okay for stretches during the regular season was relegated to the press box as everyone predicted he would be since he had no NHL playoff experience and very little in Europe also. 

It's a huge position. Think about what Tim Thomas did in sudden death last night. Three times in sudden death, Thomas deflected shots that were headed into the goal. One time, a carom went off Dennis Seidenberg's leg and went two inches wide. You have to have a goalie who can stand on his head at the most important part of the season, and right now Philadelphia doesn't have the kind of guy that they can look to and say, "yeah, he's definitely going to steal us a game down the line."

We could easily break that down line-by-line and point out how just about everything Jack says here is wrong -- from the goaltending situation to "everybody knew Bob would suck!" to the fact that Boucher has better playoff numbers than Thomas to the fact that Seidenberg, not Thomas, barely saved that chance in OT last night... and well, yeah. 

Homerism is fantastic (on local broadcasts, at least). Comparing the Bruins to the American Revolution is great theater, and arguably fantastic. But man, getting the whole Flyers goaltending situation wrong, basically just for effect?

That's just weird and pointless and the reason a lot of people outside of Boston dislike you. As for people in Boston, well, you're their folk hero, and they take everything you say as gospel. And that's probably why a lot of people in Boston are just like this girl...

See what I did there, Jack? If Philly fans take our opinions directly from the Flyers PR department like you said we do, then that means all Boston fans take their opinions from you, right? I bet this girl thought the escalator was the Royal family, and by God, she was going to conquer it....

Comment 153 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Anti-monarchist… thinks Massachusetts is “free and independent” . . . denouncing inheritance . . . sympathizing “poor filthy masses”

Obviously… Jack Edwards is a communist…

by NYFlyersFan on Apr 28, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

What a f*cking moron. Glorious hairpiece I might add!!

by blackandorange on Apr 28, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just try and keep your head in one piece when he starts talking about Philly.

He’s making notes and new phrases right now……..

by 13_Legion on Apr 29, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Filling their fanbase with too many false hopes. It doesn’t hurt to give people the facts, Jack. The better team often loses in a short series, so it’s not like the Bruins can’t advance.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Apr 28, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That video is incredible!!

by PhilsForever on Apr 28, 2011 3:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Rec’d, but Don Cherry at least talks about hockey. This guy would’ve been the base camp P.A. guy in Dr. Strangelove.

by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 28, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are literally just two sentences in that statement that don’t contain a falsehood:

Think about what Tim Thomas did in sudden death last night.

Since he’s just asking you to do something, he can’t technically be wrong about anything.
One time, a carom went off Dennis Seidenberg’s leg and went two inches wide.
Since I don’t feel like reviewing the entire OT period, I’m going to assume that there was one time when this thing happened.

In our next installment, I go orange-block-quote-ninja on his mistake, Detweiler style.

by Snevik on Apr 28, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d explain it as “Seidenberg almost kicked in an own goal in OT of Game 7 and Thomas was lucky it didn’t go in” but hey, what do I know.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
@boknows71

by boknows71 on Apr 28, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, that’s exactly it

Visit the BSH Store :: Get us on Twitter :: facebook, too!
Broad Street Hockey - Covering the Philadelphia Flyers. Two goalies*, One Cup.

by Travis Hughes on Apr 28, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like I remember that happening in regulation on the final PP….oh well.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, not at all.

Yes, yes we are.

Goaltending is a huge part of winning the Stanley Cup and the fact that Chicago got it from Antti Niemi last year and that Philadelphia almost got it from Michael Leighton last year is a wonderful story, but neither one of those goaltenders had proven themselves in the playoffs.

Both of these teams did get “goaltending” from these two men, in the abstract sense. But that isn’t really saying anything.

To go with a guy who’s not proven is not usually a sound plan.

It can be sound. Once again, it’s a single variable that doesn’t determine the soundness of a plan on its own.

Brian Boucher, I think, is Philadelphia’s No. 1 guy right now with Leighton the backup.

He only got Leights position on the depth chart 2 places off!

Sergei Bobrovsky — or whatever his first name is — you know, the Russian kid who played okay for stretches during the regular season was relegated to the press box as everyone predicted he would be since he had no NHL playoff experience and very little in Europe also.

He played excellent for stretches of the regular season, as well as poor for stretches. And no one predicted he would be relegated to the press box. Putting there was insanely reactionary, and the mistake has since been corrected.

It’s a huge position.

It has the least impact on winning of any position.

Three times in sudden death, Thomas deflected shots that were headed into the goal.

Tim Thomas actually made five saves in OT. Deflecting shots that are headed into the goal otherwise is called a save.

You have to have a goalie who can stand on his head at the most important part of the season, and right now Philadelphia doesn’t have the kind of guy that they can look to and say, “yeah, he’s definitely going to steal us a game down the line.”

It’s pretty clearyou don’t need that—and that this Flyers team has never needed that—to win playoff games. But it they do, luckily they are backstopped by a guy with 21 career playoff wins, as opposed to a fat old man with only 14.

by Snevik on Apr 28, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well done, but I want to box something up a little more
To go with a guy who’s not proven is not usually a sound plan.

It can be sound. Once again, it’s a single variable that doesn’t determine the soundness of a plan on its own.

I’d go a step further and say that post-lockout data suggests that if anything it’s the more sound plan.

There have been ten cup finalist goalies since the lockout. Five of them were 24 years or younger. Eight of them had a career ESS% at or below the league average. Only JS Giguere and Dwayne Roloson were proven above-average goaltenders.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

A serious question
It has the least impact on winning of any position.

What exactly do you mean by that? Is that based on some stat or something I’m not aware of?

Because it seems to me that without a goalie, you’re kinda, you know, effed. Unless you’re talking about a small drop-off in talent of backup goalies or something.

"Halak way out of the net! It pinballs to the crease...SCOOORRREEEEE!"
Or follow me on Twitter: @mpbless022

by mpbless on Apr 28, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically. I can’t find the BtN article right now, but I’m pretty sure the talented goaltending accounts for like 8-10% of winning (as opposed to, say, luck determing ~30%). I know the NHL GMs think goaltending is worth about 8.7% of their resources, for instance.

by Snevik on Apr 28, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to clarify: because you just divided by 3/2/1, your division of salary means each forward is worth 19% of the results when he is on the ice, and each defenseman 16%. Because defensemen play more than forwards, this means that defensemen are, on average, as valuable (or slightly more) than forwards.

I just feel this post will be linked to for the next 3 years as "Hawerchuk proved forwards are more valuable than defensemen"…

That trap applies here too, I think. 8.7% of the resources get divided between two goalies, for about 4.35% each. 19% gets divided between four forwards, for about 4.25% each. Which is still not all that informative.

What I’d really like to see is whether starting goalies’ pay compares best to first line centers or second line wingers or what.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

But doesn’t that still indicate there’s no amount of value in paying for the talent advantage at goaltending. And while maybe an individual goaltender is worth more than an individual forward, if you are winning the talent differential against your opponent all down the roster, the goaltender can’t possibly bridge that gap.

by Snevik on Apr 28, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely agree, don’t get me wrong.

a) I think the media tends to weight goaltending roughly equal to forwards as a group, rather than to individual forwards.

b) I think the pay-based assessment of goaltending impact may overweight goalies, since there is some indication that they are still overpaid as a group.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric – is there any correlation between, say, a goalie’s ESS% and his team’s record? Since ESS% seems to be the closest thing we have to a talent measurement for a goalie, that seems the most likely place to look for the effect a goalie has on his team’s winning percentage.

Bob.

by The Dark on Apr 28, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, there’s a huge correlation between a goalie’s ESS% in that season and his team’s record in that season. This year, for goalies who had at least 41 starts with one team, an improvement in ESS% of .01 was worth 9 points to the team — which is not all that surprising, since that group faced an average of 1285 ES shots, so 1% saves equals 13 goals equals a bit more than two wins.

The problem is that goalies’ ESS% varies a lot from season to season, so the correlation between a guy’s career ESS% (which is the way to assess talent and dole out salary) and his team’s points in any given year will be much lower. Which is why the assessment of winning probabilities that Snevik referred to had a much larger component from luck than from goaltending.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It occurs to me

How awesome it would be to get an interview with him for BSH radio. Travis, Geoff, make it happen.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

^This, a thousand times.

But I’m a Stern fan, so I enjoy serious interviews of whackos.

401-134–3

by mushdamma on Apr 28, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

even to this day, Boston is full of English loyalist… pah shaw

by fitzy first on Apr 28, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t stand him, and he won’t grow on me. Homerism on local broadcasts is one thing, but he goes too far. Young fans learn a lot about the game from their play-by-play guy. He’s cultivating idiots.

by kazz on Apr 28, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

being in boston alone cultivates idiots

Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners

by NYflyGUY on Apr 28, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

^THIS. It’s one thing to get your homerism from someone like a Coates. But to get it from JJ or Clement would be a disservice to real hockey fans. It’s what creates this ignorance about the sport and allows that prejudice about one’s own hockey team to pervade. This is why Bruins and Pens fans who don’t care to do any research don’t know anything about any other hockey teams and make ridiculous assumptions. Blowhards like Edwards and Steigerwald are ruining hockey for them because they just make shit up as they go along.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Apr 28, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen sista!!

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
@boknows71

by boknows71 on Apr 28, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least you bothered to say “ones who don’t do research.”

Granted, anyone is going to know more about their home team as they watch them every night, but being in an Original Six market and a massive area of college hockey in the United States, the Boston/New England area has some well school hockey fans.

Granted I didn’t even hear Edwards talk until this morning as the bar I was at turned it to the Sox after OT was finished, but I did smirk at it.

Honestly, how gives a damn, all this does is get pink hat Bruins fans pissed and riles up you smack talkers.

Looking forward to Saturday.

by 13_Legion on Apr 28, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not a smack talker. I just think guys like Edwards do a disservice to the sport they cover.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Apr 28, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, we have the same issue here with our local sports radio. 90% of them absolutely suck and spread their nonfacts and BS just to rile up the base.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Apr 28, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the escalator girl was a true Bruins fan, she’d get up to the last step, only needing one more step to beat the escalator, and then stop trying and slowly fall back to the bottom.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Apr 28, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Maybe that’s why they stopped the video.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both of those videos are simply epic sauce.

by Boundforbeach on Apr 28, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Edwards,

“what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "

Danny Fist-Pump Strikes Again!!!

by MeszarosKillsPeople on Apr 28, 2011 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Jack Edwards is the Industrial Revolution.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
@boknows71

by boknows71 on Apr 28, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flyers vs. Bruins means another trip into Jack Edwards’ brain

The song “Wide Open Spaces” comes to mind.

Think you're kinda neat
Then she tells me I'm a creep

by jello44 on Apr 28, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

“Comfortably Numb”

Bob.

by The Dark on Apr 28, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edwards rules

Hockey Blog Adventure: New Post: Round 1: NO HABS NO (I'm also on Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 28, 2011 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed he does. He is the absolute ruler of Crazytown.

"Halak way out of the net! It pinballs to the crease...SCOOORRREEEEE!"
Or follow me on Twitter: @mpbless022

by mpbless on Apr 28, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

King of the dipshits. Enjoy him for his entertainment value, sure—but don’t go to him for any actual well-informed opinions based on actual facts.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Apr 28, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is the mayor of moronville, MA

Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!

by MJDII on Apr 28, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is the personification of a mid-air fungo job.

by mtitanic on Apr 28, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Urban dictionary?

Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!

by MJDII on Apr 28, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t do it, M! Resist!

I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.

Chem and Gus to the restaurant.

Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates

by Chemistry66 on Apr 28, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m all about the learning.

Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!

by MJDII on Apr 28, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What in god’s name was that girl doing???

I'm kind of a dick.

by Vansteel on Apr 28, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

being really really really hammered and walking up the wrong escalator. It was hilarious live, too

Hockey Blog Adventure: New Post: Round 1: NO HABS NO (I'm also on Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 28, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel cheated that I didn’t see the end.

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 28, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really thought she was gonna give up. I mean at first she is making no ground at all. just walking in place for 30 seconds.

http://restorations.bandcamp.com/

by Val_d'Or on Apr 29, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boston boor

Ironically, the Bruins have only 1 American (Tim Thomas) on their regular roster, while the Canadiens have 7: Gionta, Gomez, Gill, Halpern, Pacioretty, Mara, and Wisniewski.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

by charlie yankee on Apr 28, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey now, there’s also Steve Kampfer if he wasn’t our injured 7th or 8th defenseman

Hockey Blog Adventure: New Post: Round 1: NO HABS NO (I'm also on Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 28, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention, that if you really want to talk basic US history, then there’s that part part where the French who settled parts of Canada where people still speak the language to this day, were like, the ones who allied with us against the Brits. Just saying….

by Gizmoitus on Apr 28, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

If you require historical accuracy in your crazy end-of-series soliloquy, then Jack Edwards is obviously not for you.

Hockey Blog Adventure: New Post: Round 1: NO HABS NO (I'm also on Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 28, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

or statistical accuracy

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
@boknows71

by boknows71 on Apr 28, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then you open up a whole new can of worms; because Ben Franklin went up to Montreal to try to get the French Canadians to support our cause but couldn’t convince them… It could get very convoluted.

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 29, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glenn Beck Jr.

I guess if I have to be named after a drunk driver, being named Pelle isn't so bad.

by Pronger? I don't even know her! on Apr 28, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I like that! :)

#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)

by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 28, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You want a revolution?

I guess if I have to be named after a drunk driver, being named Pelle isn't so bad.

by Pronger? I don't even know her! on Apr 28, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m so in love.

Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners

by NYflyGUY on Apr 28, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s awesome and he’s ours. /sigh

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Apr 28, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I never saw the bas ass side of giroux. I know he is tough just by the nature of being a hockey player. The facial expressions are classic, but the attitude is fuckin boss!

Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!

by MJDII on Apr 28, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I’m the worst lip reader in the world. What I got out of that is “you high? get pie”

Soon to be Sestitos Stache

by Cillo stache on Apr 28, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is brilliant and now I can’t unsee it!

"We didn't do it the easy way. We took the hard way to do it. But we are part of history now."

by ww2b on Apr 28, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

something fuck something something what? you something me.

by Snevik on Apr 28, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got

Aw fuck yeah (yup?). What? Eat me (mine?).

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s about right.

#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)

by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 28, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I’d say that’s close.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Apr 28, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got ‘all fucking game’ and ‘you want it’ and something after that i can’t quite make out. could be wrong though…

by cova24 on Apr 28, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that answer more than mine.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That might be even closer.

#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)

by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 28, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

All fucking game seems right, “you want it” I’m not so sure about.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

“All fucking game!”

“What? Yea Boy!”

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

or yea buddy

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read “Oh fuck yea, boy…. You want it? Come at me!”

by halx on Apr 28, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely “all fucking game.”

Man, Giroux is so fucking awesome.

by Snevik on Apr 29, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Just found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q2ZHwhwDcQ

I literally have tears running down my face from laughing so hard.

“SNAUSAGES! I HAVE NO IDEA!”

Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.

by bdawk4ever on Apr 28, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

HANDCUFFS! HABABLABA!

Eagles next starting QB: "East-West Shrine Game Legend" Mike Kafka
Flyers: Waiting for The Marquis DSOD's first goal
Phillies: starting off well.

by bdawk4ever on Apr 28, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man. Should not have watched that at work. I’m in SO MUCH PAIN trying not to bust out laughing at that, because it will be LOUD!

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Apr 29, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL.
I think I just died.

Carcillo! Carcillo! Dan Carcillo!

by Flyers#13 on Apr 28, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is so great.

"We didn't do it the easy way. We took the hard way to do it. But we are part of history now."

by ww2b on Apr 28, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounded like he spoke Russian for a second…snasvytcha? Is he a secret Communist waiting to launch Sputnik II?

by J. Wil on Apr 29, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forget the homerism, he has an irritating voice that I wouldn’t want to listen to when I’m on the subway let alone in front of the TV. This is the first time I’ve seen what he looks like and shockingly he looks almost exactly like I pictured. John Clayton and Eric Karabell’s love child.

by youaretheman26 on Apr 28, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

You eventually just drown out a great deal of it. And Brick is there for actual hockey discussion.

by 13_Legion on Apr 28, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he stab someone with a trident?

Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!

by MJDII on Apr 28, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lambert just said Boston has a better defense than Philly. Wow. When we win his services can we make him literally write those words on a piece of paper and eat them? http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2011/4/27/2137194/hockey-bloggers-for-rent-and-charity

by Snevik on Apr 28, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Boston certainly had better goaltending and defense than Philly, and it seems as though the offense would have done better against Montreal had a Bobrovsky/Leighton/Boucher-quality goaltender been in net.

True, if Bobrovsky/Leighton/Boucher had been in net for the Canadiens, the Bruins offense probably would’ve done better

by mantis toboggan on Apr 28, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the Flyers have a better defense than the Canadiens. And the Bruins.

by Snevik on Apr 28, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I’m just pointing out how ridiculously stupid his statement is. How is that any justification for picking them to win series against a completely different team? It’s like saying “Well, Philadelphia is basically Montreal with a worse goalie.”

by mantis toboggan on Apr 28, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or just maybe show him this?

If he means Boston had better (goaltending and defense), as in “they allowed fewer goals”, then he is correct. But if he means that both their goaltending and their defense were better, then he is…what’s the word I’m looking for?

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps he’s referring to team defense?

by mantis toboggan on Apr 28, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind, just read the link

by mantis toboggan on Apr 28, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

wr-wr-wr-wr-incorrect.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta give the guy the credit. One minute he bashes Montreal fans for carrying on tradition and taking pride and their history, and the next he’s referencing the Boston Tea Party with a tone of personal pride. That’s hustle

by mantis toboggan on Apr 28, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Time for another game of...

JACK EDWARDS BINGO!

I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.

Chem and Gus to the restaurant.

Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates

by Chemistry66 on Apr 28, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like we have a winner

Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners

by NYflyGUY on Apr 28, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This reminds me off zoowithroy’s Tom McCarthy Huffing Game.

Oh, I don't know. I think the GM should sign that free agent velociraptor to fortify the bench. He's a playoff veteran who still shows a lot of hustle.

by LeepinLizardz on Apr 29, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there anywhere on this site where we have each team’s regular season Corsi available?

I think the one that takes all situations into account is “relative corsi” but I could be wrong.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Relative Corsi is individual metrics, not team. Since “Corsi Rel” means “Corsi relative to the team”.

But for team Corsi, just use behind the net.

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 28, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does BtN have team Corsi? I’ve never found it except in the player metrics; their team metrics are about goals and shots on goal, as far as I can tell.

Objective NHL has the team numbers for 5-on-5 overall, in close games, and in tied games, but they haven’t done an update in several weeks.

This data shouldn’t be as hard to come by as it seems, but I’m not sure where to find it.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I was looking there too…hmmm

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not simple, but if you just add up all the goalies, you can get it.

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 28, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, look at that, the goalie stats page works now. It never did for me before.

But yeah, I don’t get why the basic team totals aren’t just posted.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goalie stats doesn’t include blocks though, so you can get Fenwick this way but not Corsi.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah. Fair enough.

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 28, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bit off-topic...

Do we have a replacement weapon for the “anti-Savard missile” this year?

(This will only make sense to those who were here last year – apologies to those who weren’t reading/posting yet.)

#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)

by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 28, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

A salt cannon to fire at Chara?

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Apr 28, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We used the salt cannon on the Buffaslugs. We’re gonna need launch Chara into space and hope no one notices that Earth suddenly has two moons.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was thinking something dehydrating.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Apr 28, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Molotov cocktails?

Do you think he’s vulnerable to fire?

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Apr 28, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or we could force him to watch reruns of Ax Men until he cries himself to dehydration

by mantis toboggan on Apr 28, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’d do better by sending the Ax Men after his legs.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Apr 28, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That scene from Tosh or the Soup(forget which) was so damn funny.

Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"

by Ed Van Chimp on Apr 28, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about a Tim Thomas Donut gun?

Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners

by NYflyGUY on Apr 28, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

for diversion. if theyre chocolate he might think theyre pucks, and vise verse.

Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners

by NYflyGUY on Apr 28, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Timmay likes cheesburgers!

by SkateHitShoot on Apr 28, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right

Say hi to the bad guy.
Yankees/Flyers/Gunners

by NYflyGUY on Apr 28, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tim Thomas is Goldberg?

by kazz on Apr 28, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

An invisible/clear wire at Chara’s shoulder height?

I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.

Chem and Gus to the restaurant.

Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates

by Chemistry66 on Apr 28, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good suggestions, everyone! :)

#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)

by Orange and Black Forever on Apr 29, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Thomas?

I mean, he can Hartnell like a madman…

I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.

Chem and Gus to the restaurant.

Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates

by Chemistry66 on Apr 28, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This is twenty times better in GIF form.

"We didn't do it the easy way. We took the hard way to do it. But we are part of history now."

by ww2b on Apr 28, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad the puck doesn’t hit him in the corner, causing a delay of game penalty.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Apr 29, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be pretty weird in the ASG skills competition.

by Eric T. on Apr 29, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya gotta admit its pretty slick how fast he bounced back up, never touching the boards…now go find the one when he fell after the ot goal another great moment!

by SkateHitShoot on Apr 29, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three times in sudden death, Thomas deflected shots that were headed into the goal.

Wouldn’t that be Thomas’s (or any goalie’s, for that matter) job?

by TommykUD on Apr 28, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

No, Thomas’s job is to eat donuts.

I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.

Chem and Gus to the restaurant.

Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates

by Chemistry66 on Apr 28, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The “eating bags of 100 dollar bills” line on DGB last year was one of my favorites. It seems kind of outdated now though.

by Eric T. on Apr 28, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

What we're missing right now in Boston

I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.

Chem and Gus to the restaurant.

Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates

by Chemistry66 on Apr 28, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone had a little too much of the crazy juice with his Crazy O’s this morning.

"We didn't do it the easy way. We took the hard way to do it. But we are part of history now."

by ww2b on Apr 28, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

At least our dear drunkard Coatesy is oftentimes hilarious.

I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.

Chem and Gus to the restaurant.

Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates

by Chemistry66 on Apr 28, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Montreal fan

in the NESN coverage zone, and Jack Edwards almost makes me want to move to Canada just so I can get CBC broadcasts to not listen to his dumb ass.

I can understand if he wants to be an idiot and not bother to do any research about hockey (has he ever actually played at any level?) on his own, but spreading the misinformation is just wrong; hockey isn’t Fox News.

Like I said, I’m a Habs fan, but I’m also a hockey fan, so I catch a lot of games, and I’ve been really impressed with Bobrovsky all year. It’s not often that you get a rookie who can handle a load like that, especially when playing for a team that is expecting post-season success down the line. I’m hoping to see him reappear in the next series.

Oh, and go Flyers, send my eternal enemies the Boston Bruins home for the summer.

by Hunter Durfee on Apr 28, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Bitching here now, eh?

by 13_Legion on Apr 29, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah, I didn’t expect the Habs to do much in the playoffs with all their injuries, it’s more pitiful that Boston let them take it to 7 games.

I just fucking hate the Bruins and Edwards, and I’d love to see the Flyers embarrass them again.

by Hunter Durfee on Apr 29, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

After those first two debacles, the series really evened up.

Have to see what this next round brings.

by 13_Legion on Apr 29, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I didn’t know Jack Edwards and brain were allowed to be used in the same sentence.

by flyersphan17 on Apr 29, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

And to think of what he makes, probably. :)

by 13_Legion on Apr 29, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

All the Philadelphia Flyers news and commentary that's fit to print.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Flyers-orange-crush_small
NHL Draft 2012: Options on defense in the first round

Recent FanPosts

Patal_small
Andrew Johnston Scouting Report: A first-hand look at the Flyers newest prospect
Small
What being a Hockey fan means to me.
Small
Could Parise and Weber be in Flyers' future?
Mick_jagr_2_small
SB Nation app
Small
Hockey Stick Help
Copy_of_137494800_slide_small
The 2011-12 Philadelphia Flyers season in GIFs
37938_10150235117290484_539355483_13709206_6888144_n_small
Ilya Bryzgalov has chance to take shot at Flyers fans, does
Small
Can the Flyers win the Cup with Bryz?
Carcillo_small
Flyers in the Off-Season

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managing Editor

Screen_shot_2012-01-09_at_12 Travis Hughes

Associate Editors

67865_878600804923_14200876_46395212_2220_n_small Geoff Detweiler

Headshot2_film_grain_small Ben Rothenberg

Soccer_face_small Eric T.

Contributors

163830_478172269164_824914164_5517468_4313370_n_small ToddtheFox

Clarke-tee_small KreiderDesigns

D150_small Teemu H