Tuesday Morning Fly By: Monday Was 'Write Stupid S**t Day'
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Chris Pronger will be tested for a herniated disc tomorrow: [BSH] [Philly Sports Daily] [CSNPhilly] [Flyer Files] [Frequent Flyers]
- Kris Versteeg is facing abdominal surgery to fix a sports hernia: [Philly Sports Daily]
- So about that headline... First, Phil Sheridan wrote a crappy column arguing that crappy goalies can't win Stanley Cups, unless they do it by beating another crappy goalie: [Inquirer]
- Why Sheridan's crappy column is crappy. And, you know, wrong: [SB Nation Philly]
- Second, remember yesterday when Sean Avery came out for gay marriage? Well, an NHL player agent took to Twitter (on his company's account no less) to represent 'the silent majority' who want to protect the sanctity of Affleck/Lopez, Lachey/Simpson and Spears/Federline: [Puck Daddy]
- Third, Tim Panaccio decides to take what Peter Laviolette said about Mike Richards and editorialize about how much Tim hates Mike Richards: [CSN Philly]
- But don't worry, Ryan Bright comes through with an actual straight-news article on Lavy's interview: [Philly Sports Daily]
- So does Anthony SanFilippo: [delcotimes.com]
- And Chuck Gormley gives a straight transcript from Scott Hartnell talking about the Lavy/Richie "feud": [Flyer Files]
- Compare and contrast: Michael Leighton wants to be the No. 1 guy for the Flyers: [Flyer Files]
- Brian Boucher wants to be Sergei Bobrovsky's backup: [Philly Sports Daily] [Flyer Files]
- Sarah Baicker writes that the Flyers are still searching for answers as to what happened. (But I thought we already established it was Boucher's fault?): [CSNPhilly]
- Peter Laviolette later spoke about the Flyers' goalie carousel: [Flyer Files]
- While searching for answers, the Flyers are still in shock: [Philly Sports Daily]
- A thorough breakdown of the roster looking toward next season: [Daily News]
- Jeff Reese, Peter Laviolette, and Boucher talk about the goaltending, including why Bob was put in the press box: [NHL.com]
- Final numbers of HartnellDown and VersteegDown: [Down Goes Spezza]
- A prospect profile on Ricard Blidstrand: [Flyers Faithful]
- Updates on the 2011 NHL jersey changes: [icethetics]
- Looking at Tampa Bay's playoff scoring and whether they are luckier than the rest of the league: [Behind The Net]
- In case you missed it, Comcast SportsNet is going to become NBC Sports Philadelphia, or something, soon: [BSH]
- A good look at attempts to better quantify goalie performance, with quotes from Tom Awad and Gabe Desjardins: [US News and World Report]
- Lastly, a great look at Roger Neilson, Dave King, and the "secret stats" - mainly, individual scoring chances - NHL teams track but don't want people to know: [Edmonton Journal]
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I’m sure we will have a lot more of “writing stupid shit days” in the upcoming weeks. It’s gonna be a long summer. But that is why there is golf. I am actually not going to be reading any more articles until we start talking about what the team is actually going to do for next year.
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Tim seemed like he was either reaching with his article. That or honestly trying to expose something unfriendly brewing. Could always be both.
Everything is so political. I really dont know why I had Lavy pegged for the kind of coach that would smack a player upside the head if he continued to display poor behavior/leadership in any area. I guess I gave him too much credit. There is seeming to be less of a backbone and more of an appearance of one.
YES! I do understand that he does not make the decisions alone, and while I’ve voiced my dislike of Mike Richards and his lack of affability, I am more willing to accept the philosophy of attitude reflecting leadership.
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Understand that this style of coaching lasts for about a year or two before the players rebel. Generally speaking, he keeps a good balance of hard ass and player-friendly.
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by Mike B on D on May 10, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Leighton wants to start here? Well, I’d like to be the starting goaltender in Philly also, but much like Leighton, that’s probably not a good idea either. I’m on record as wanting Bob in the preseason last year and I’m sticking with him. I don’t want Leighton anywhere near the ice. At least not in our uniform.
by 92-74-99-96 on May 10, 2011 8:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
As much as I despise Avery’s very existence I do really appreciate that he has come out publicly and supported the rights for gay marriage.
Now on topic…I think the Flyers need to trade Mike Richards. Not because I want to see him traded, or because I don’t like him, or because I think he is an ineffective captain but because I don’t think he will ever be happy here. Short of winning a Cup the media is constantly going to go after him. People like Tim clearly have an agenda and their writing bleeds with it. Fans are always calling for Richie’s head, or at the least his captaincy. Richie is a lot like McNabb in that both were superstars, leaders of their teams but the media just wouldn’t leave them alone. The difference, as I see it, is that McNabb was able to joke about it, and play it off like it was no big thing, at least publicly, I have no idea how McNabb really felt. But neither of them seemed to have a chance. And for Richie’s sanity he might need to play somewhere else.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
If it ends up working out that way it will prove his detractors right.
by mantis toboggan on May 10, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
How so? I am not saying he should ask for a trade, or that he wants a trade, I just think he might always be miserable here because the media and some fans are out to get him.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
It’s frustrating to think he’s getting broken down by 20-30 games/playoff watchers and guys like Panotch that spend more time at the media buffet table and digging for salacious quotes he can twist then, you know, watching and learning the game.
I guess if I have to be named after a drunk driver, being named Pelle isn't so bad.
by Pronger? I don't even know her! on May 10, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. And I don’t blame Richie for taking it personal. There is only so much people can hear about themselves before it wears on them.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
And most of the criticism is unjust, really. I love the people in the CSN comments, talking about him “quitting on his coach” and drinking the Panotch kool-aid. Such a non-story. They also fail to mention that they were told Richards would be meeting with media today because he was set to meet with doctors yesterday. Left that nugget out.
I guess if I have to be named after a drunk driver, being named Pelle isn't so bad.
by Pronger? I don't even know her! on May 10, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Duh?
I don’t understand how these “journalists” can write these things about him, and attack his character on a regular basis and cry about how he’s not friendly to the media.
If every time you pet a dog you get bit, you stop petting the dog. Seriously, he should carry a sign in press conferences that just reads “Obvious troll is obvious.” and hold it up when they start in on him.
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by Mike B on D on May 10, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I think that’s a problem. I don’t have a problem with him being short with the media as long as he accepts the backlash that will inevitably come with it. If he doesn’t understand that and constantly deflects any personal responsibility for the way he’s viewed, that’s unacceptable. Writers and fans criticize players, deal with it. It’d be unfortunate if he felt this way.
by mantis toboggan on May 10, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s pretty much the issue I have as well. Richie needs to understand and accept that the media is going to go after him unless he changes how he deals with them. Is the criticism fair? Some of it, but most of it isn’t. He needs to learn that the media will lighten up on him if he lightens up with them. I think what makes it worse for him is that there are other guys on this team, some that have a letter on their sweater and some that don’t, that are much better interviews then him, and so the media uses that to fuel their fire. Again, not right but it is part of the overall issue.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Agreed. Sort of related, thought this was kinda funny
by mantis toboggan on May 10, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
But after Tim writes shit like this, and Lisa Hillary asks Pronger the first thing she does in that interview, and Carchidi wrote all that shit about him last year, why is Mike suddenly supposed to “understand” (like he doesn’t already) and suck up to these a-holes?
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
There is a difference between sucking up and being purposefully obtuse. Mike needs to find that balance. So far he seems unwilling to do so.
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Again, why? When Tim Panaccio goes so far out of his way to slam Richards, when all last year they invented a split locker-room between Pronger and Richards, when early last year Carchidi went after him for weeks…
Why is it on Richards to stop these people from writing crap about him? Did you hear about Richards boycotting the media this year? Did you hear about him doing anything other than showing how much he hated media scrums? No.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Why is it on Richards? Because apparently no one is going to hold the media accountable for the things they say and write.
Sometimes in life you need to compromise yourself a little in order to make life easier. And that is what Richie needs to do. He needs to suck it up a little and give the media a little of what they want, and if he does that the media should eventually come around and lay off him. And then life is easier. If he tries it and the media insists on being one sided or making shit up then so be it. But at least then Richie can say he tried. So far, he isn’t trying. No one wins when neither side makes an effort.
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How do you say he isn’t trying? How would you know? Because the media who hates him is telling you he isn’t trying.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you even reading my responses? Does it even sound like I trust or care what the media has to say regarding the players? Because if you were reading then you wouldn’t have bothered wasting your time typing the question you just did. But since you like to pick fights for the sake of picking fights I’ll indulge you and respond anyway.
How do you say he isn’t trying? How would you know? Because the media who hates him is telling you he isn’t trying.
Because I have watched his press conferences or little interview sessions and his answers, the tone and fashion of them really haven’t changed at all. He still gives shorts answers and doesn’t really elaborate on anything.
He isn’t comfortable with the media, I get that, I don’t have a problem with that, there are millions of people like that. And his being uncomfortable is perpetuated by the bullshit that is written about him. The media, people like Tim like to write garbage and then ask him questions and act is if Richie is going to, or is supposed to pretend like he didn’t read it, or isn’t aware of what Tim wrote. Like I said, I don’t blame Richie for acting the way he does with the media. I am just saying that none of it is going to change unless he is A. sent somewhere else or B. changes how he talks to the media.
Whether he should or shouldn’t have to compromise himself a little for the sake of the media is irrelevant to my original point which was that nothing will change unless he does one of the two things I just said. I am sure Richie would probably just rather not deal with the media at all but he doesn’t really have that option.
Far more important people have been destroyed by the media, the media has the power to do that. It isn’t right, but they do. As you can clearly see, people will believe what the media says regardless of whether it is backed with anything even remotely factual.
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haha, I pick fights for the sake of picking fights.
How about: I’ve argued for Richards every time a Richards v. Media feud starts up. Last year, he boycotted the media. This year, he went to almost every single post-game scrum. He didn’t hide behind Pronger like he did last year.
But you’re saying, that isn’t good enough. And that’s on Richards. Because he isn’t trying. Except, he’s progressed from last year. You just aren’t giving him credit for it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t say it wasn’t good enough. I’m saying he has to do more. Otherwise nothing will change.
You’re right, he isn’t hiding behind Pronger, that is clearly an effort on his part, but it isn’t enough apparently because the media is still going after him. He comes off as arrogant and stubborn and the media has picked that up and run with it.
Are you suggesting that Richards has done everything he can, or everything he should and that at this point there is always going to be a feud between him and the media?
Like I said, I never disagreed with the fact that the media has made this into so much more of an issue than it ever should have been, in fact, they have probably made it into an issue when it never was one to begin with but again, no one is going to hold them accountable so then what is to be done?
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I think what gets me the angriest is the way he twists the quotes. Take the “we’re not even on the same chapter quote”. Wasn’t that in response to a question on how effective their game was? Like systems-wise, if I am correct. It had nothing to do with locker room dissension. Yet, here’s Tim, taking a quote from months ago and trying to reach for a story that isn’t there.
Teams with locker room rifts, as was created last year, don’t rally around each other and win that Boston series or get to the Cup finals. They just don’t. It’s all fiction with most of the media around here. Headline writers.
I guess if I have to be named after a drunk driver, being named Pelle isn't so bad.
by Pronger? I don't even know her! on May 10, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
SanFIlippo used the quote in today’s article. It raised an eyebrow from me, and maybe I just like ASF too much, but that sort of thing gets a pass.
ASF basically wrote a story on the story, doing one of those “Richards said this, which could mean A. But it could just be taken out of context, and he meant B.” This is tricky, and it’s a fine line to walk, but I feel like ASF is really good at writing about the media’s treatment of Richards in a fair way.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
ASF does not seem to have an agenda, unless being fair and unbiased can be considered an agenda.
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Eh. Sometimes he does. His 15 reasons entry was a little over the top.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
but it isn’t enough apparently because the media is still going after him.
And this is what pisses me off. The media says it isn’t enough. Because they want everybody to be Danny Brieres. So people who read their shit start talking about how Richards is a dick, because he doesn’t like people who are paid to piss him off.
So yes, I’m saying, at this point, the media doesn’t deserve a nice Mike Richards and there will always be a feud. I’m not saying he’s done everything he should, but he’s done everything he can be reasonably expected to. He’s not a media guy, so why does everybody force him to be? The media know they won’t get a quote from him, but they talk to him anyway. Which pisses them off, because they don’t get a quote. Then they write about how he sucks.
Use your brain and stay away from a guy you know won’t give you shit.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with all of that…so I don’t know what we are arguing about?
Richie has to do more if he wants to get the media off his back. That’s not arguable. It’s the truth.
I agree with you, I don’t think he should have to, I never said that, I am just saying that if he ever wants it to be different he is going to have to be the one to bend, further. Because we know the media won’t. It’s totally f*cked up but that’s the situation that has been created, long before Richie became a hockey player.
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What if he started calling them out on the articles? He’s not as sarcastic as Pronger, but couldn’t he just not answer questions from the morons? Or better yet, pull the unbiased reporters aside and just speak to them? If he did this and was all smiles and friendliness I think the point would be made.
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by Mike B on D on May 10, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
He can’t not answer questions, because he’s tried that before.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
What if he only spoke to certain reporters? The ones without an axe to grind? (Work with me here Geoff, this might lead to an exclusive for you guys!) If he did this, with a smile on his face, that would change the way he’s viewed.
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by Mike B on D on May 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, I don’t see that happening. But I also don’t see that helping. Because then he’s an immature player who can’t stand anything negative written about him.
Dude just doesn’t like answering questions.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It would help if they weren’t provocative questions they asked but… Yeah I guess you’re right. Still would be funny to see.
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by Mike B on D on May 10, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a long thing on this today at 12 pm, by the way.
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by Travis Hughes on May 10, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not going to be different elsewhere, unless you trade him to a town that doesn’t give a shit about hockey.
Hypothetically, I think it would be different, in a sense. Pronger said last year that he had contentious relationship with the media earlier in his career.
Pronger, who admitted he had a bad reputation with the media earlier in his career, offered his own insight on Richards’ angst.But Pronger got several chances to start over with new local beat writers. Do we criticize him for whatever mistakes he says he made in Hartford or St Louis? No, we don’t. But even if Richie started getting everything right tomorrow, 10 years from now he may still be getting the same crap from our media because he won’t get that fresh start where some of the stuff can be left behind.
"You guys suck!" Pronger said, laughing. "You guys are nice to me. Do I think you’re unfair? I don’t read, so I don’t know what you really write, to be honest with you. I think you have to have a thick skin to play sports, in general.
But I really don’t want to trade him.
by DragonGirl0583 on May 10, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he’s got depression and people need to leave him the fuck alone
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Amid all this inevitable post-season fingerpointing, why don’t we ask what Boosh thinks about all this (via the CSN article after Game 3):
“I don’t worry about the defensive breakdowns," Boucher said. "It’s my job to try to stop the puck…"
You know, I think he’s right.
"All the experts come out, all the pundits come out with their opinions...the truth of the matter is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it" - George McPhee, General Manager, Washington Capitals.
Why don’t we ask what Boosh thinks after all this (via the Flyer Files article today):
“It was a collective effort. If people just want to read headlines out of Philadelphia then their lasting impression will be that there are goaltending problems.”
You know, I think he’s right.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
So does the timely statement that you cite negate what he said after game 3? Apples and Oranges…
"All the experts come out, all the pundits come out with their opinions...the truth of the matter is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it" - George McPhee, General Manager, Washington Capitals.
Just keep reading headlines.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha, I guess us plebians have to get our information from somewhere.
"All the experts come out, all the pundits come out with their opinions...the truth of the matter is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it" - George McPhee, General Manager, Washington Capitals.
Ha, look no further than BSH…juussst kidding. You made me recall Latin at the Prep.
"All the experts come out, all the pundits come out with their opinions...the truth of the matter is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it" - George McPhee, General Manager, Washington Capitals.
Well duh, you’ve gotta worry about doing your job, not whether someone else is doing theirs. Calling out your teammates in front of the media isn’t going to go over very well with anyone. That still doesn’t mean that we can or should blame every puck that goes in on Boosh. I can’t believe you’re trying to use this quote to pin everything on the goalies. What a load of shit.
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by Ben Rothenberg on May 10, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Do Canadians even know what phones are?
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by Orange and Black Forever on May 10, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t count. He was Scottish. That obviously dominated the Canadia in him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
And in other news, HUGE props to the Predators fans who gave their team a sustained standing ovation after they lost last night in Game 6 to Vancouver. Class act by all of them.
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My favorite phrase from Panaccio’s story is “but his [Laviolette’s] remarks speak for themselves.” This after an article in which Panaccio spends most of his energy trying to make Laviolette’s remarks speak for whatever Panaccio happens to believe. Laviolette spends most of his time defending Richards but that doesn’t matter to the reporter.
Other highlights:
“Richards can be moody and withdrawn.” As opposed to the rest of humanity, which always lives in Sunnyville.
“There have been widespread reports, even in Canada lately…” How about Alaska? And they can see Russia from there.
It’s a hit piece, target practice for Panaccio. Cheap and easy.
Has Panaccio considered the possibility that any problems between the coach and captain might also be the coach’s responsibility? No, because the coach feeds him quotes. It takes two, Tim. Kind of like the relationship between you and your readers. Here we are, taking the time to read your stuff. How about skating an honest shift more often? Let Richards’s “emotional detachment” serve as an example of how to be a better journalist.
by flyersfaninchicago on May 10, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
"Richards can be moody and withdrawn." As opposed to the rest of humanity, which always lives in Sunnyville.
Dude… It’s always sunny in Philadelphia.
I agree with you. He should stop twisting words for the purpose of character assassination. The same idiots who read his drivel call in to WIP and fan the flames of ignorance.
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by Mike B on D on May 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn!!!! I need to carve out an hour it so just to read all these gems. Gotta love contemporary sports media.
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I think my favorite part of the Sheridan article is that when he used a stupid football analogy to explain the hockey, he didn’t even get the football right.
Terrell Owens was Reid’s admission that his theory was flawed. The Eagles finally reached the Super Bowl the next year, and Reid has made a home-run threat at receiver a priority ever since.
Nevermind the fact that they took a WR in round 2 in 2000, in round 1 in 2001, and in round 3 in 2003. It was the 2003 post-season when they finally realized that they needed to have a good WR and went out and drafted…nobody on the first day in 2004, Reggie Brown in 2005, nobody in 2006, and nobody in 2007.
I wanted to call Sheridan a roving reporter, but I thought “crappy columnist” was better alliteration.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone see this? From Elliotte Friedman’s 30 Thoughts:
20) Flyers defenceman Danny Syvret played the second round with an eyelid that wouldn’t close. Shingles led to a form of Bell’s Palsy on the right side of his face, which paralyzed it. He showed me how he had to manually close the eye or irrigate it with drops. Minor grossness.
Oh shit, I didn’t see that.
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SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor
by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha
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Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor
by Geoff Detweiler on May 10, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, I didn’t see that at all.
Props to DSOD for being a freaking warrior through that! That has to be really bad to play through.
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on May 10, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I had shingles when I was ten on the same area as him, it seems, but closer to the ear. Random facts.
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Giving up isn't an option
by Cillo stache on May 10, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
For those of us that frequent TGP for your Phils fix I must warn you that FLYERROB is on the prowl.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
@boknows71
Yeah I saw that earlier. He is going to get ripped to shreds.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Yeah. I kind of feel bad for the guy. I think he means well it just rarely comes off that way.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
He is really a throwback. It isn’t the yelling, or religious/philosophical views. Believe it or not, several of his “out of the mainstream” seeming views parallel my own. I just know what not to post. And no, I will NOT engage on “which ones” here. That’s my point.
Stylistically, he is a blog newbie. Everyone posted that way. That is, everyone in 1995 (some of you do not remember those days on geocities.com). No snark. At all.
It won’t be pretty in TGP.
Set your JVR in 2011.
I’m just waiting to see who flips out on him first. TP is my favored pick.
Bob.
by The Dark on May 10, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Which thread? This could be entertaining.
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on May 10, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Injury confusion
Well, this is a fine kettle of fish.
If all this is true, we know absolutely nothing. Folks, if Versteeg had a sports hernia, no wonder he looked like garbage. If Richards had a wrist injury, no wonder he couldn’t shoot. If Nodl had a concussion, no wonder Shelley was playing (still no excuse for Rinaldo, Wellwood or Z could have played more). No wonder Pronger couldn’t really help.
I suspect we will hear soon from Kimmo, that he was injured somehow too.
And before you say “well, if they were that injured, and not just hurt, they shouldn’t have been playing” note that given all the injuries, you are being an apologist for Wellwood. Maybe even Test-weed (spelling error intentional).
This sounds good at first. “Flyers’ injuries made them the whole team look like garbage.” Uh, maybe not. Instead, this feels like the noise-to-signal ratio just got really, really high.
We know NOTHING
/sergeant schulz’d (old school) or maybe Cramer (business school’d).
(Warming up for some serious fanposts next week).
Set your JVR in 2011.

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