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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...

  • Frank Seravalli talked with Ed Snider to confirm that it was, in fact, Snider who ordered Holmgren to acquire Bryzgalov: [Daily News]
  • Bill Meltzer presents a hypothetical scenario of the Flyers trading Jeff Carter and getting the 3rd overall pick in this year's draft. Interesting stuff: [HockeyBuzz.com]
  • Really strange story on the Flyers having to carry around a coin at all times to prove their dedication to winning the Stanley Cup this year: [Philly Reign]
  • Which teams do you hate the most? Ryan gives you his three most hated teams: [Flyers Goal Scored By...]
  • The first beams of steel were placed on the old Spectrum site today as PhillyLive! got started: [@FlyersPublicist]
  • Darroll Powe is auctioning off a jersey for charity, which proves how awesome he is: [Flyers Goal Scored By...]
  • The NHL approved two rules changes, one to Boarding and one to Illegal Checks to the Head: [NHL.com] [Puck Daddy]
  • Ian Laperriere and other NHL players discuss the rule changes: [CSNPhilly]
  • The NHL officially approved the Thrashers move to Winnipeg: [SBNation.com] [Puck Daddy] and the team launched their official website, albeit without a name, colors, or much of anything, really: [SBNation.com]
  • Just like last year, Derek Zona takes a look at which teams have two RFAs that should be given dual offer sheets: [The Copper & Blue]
  • For those who like new uniforms, what do you think of the new Victoria Royals (WHL) logo and jersey? [icethetics]
  • How about which jersey the Rangers should wear if they are in fact in this year's Winter Classic: [5-hole.com]
  • Speaking of outdoor hockey, the Stars plan to play a preseason game in Houston's Reliant Stadium: [SBNation.com]
  • Wondering if Semyon Varlamov returns to the Capitals. If not, why not a reunion with Bob? [Washington Times]
  • A new way of looking at the best faceoff men, with attempts to adjust for competition: [Hockey Prospectus]
  • This is probably old, but a collection of photos of NHL players when they were kids: [NHL Players as Kids]
  • The offseason to-do lists from around the NHL: [Down Goes Brown]

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hahaha yes is today the day? What an odd story about the coin. Reminds me of when some students had to carry an egg around school for Home Ed class,
The next few weeks shall be very interesting for the Flyers.
I’m already jonsin for hockey.

by Gonzotatcics on Jun 22, 2011 7:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to admit i just looked at all those NHL Players as kids. I swear that Biz looks exactly the same. lol.

I'm a year old hockey fan. :-D Best year ever!!

by f2yers8 on Jun 22, 2011 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep, me too – every single one, haha. I definitely stared at the one of Michael Richards for a while trying to see the resemblance, but sadly found none.

"We didn't do it the easy way. We took the hard way to do it. But we are part of history now."

by ww2b on Jun 22, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most Hated Teams:

1. Penguins(Because their fans are front runners)
2. Devils (Because if they had fans, they would be front runners)
3. Canadiens(Because they have fans, who aren’t front runners, but I dislike them anyway)

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Jun 22, 2011 7:45 AM EDT reply actions  

1. Penguins
2. Penguins
3. Penguins

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

3. Canadiens(Because they have fans, who aren’t front runners, but I dislike them anyway)

3. Rangers (Because I’ll hate them no matter how much they suck)

by Boundforbeach on Jun 22, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. Penguins (Crysby, Bettmen, and Bailouts)
2. Rangers (Avery, NYC, The Yankees, The Giants, The Mets)
3. Maple Leafs (Refs, Tucker/Domi/current scumbags, 90-00’s playoff matchups)

by chrislanci on Jun 22, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. Penguins
2. Rangers
3. Devils

The order shifts from time to time, and the Penguins are actually a more recent addition to the top three (once my grudge against the Red Wings over the ’97 Finals finally started to fade), but the Rangers and Devils have always been up there.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I try not to think about the Devils there brand of hockey was so unwatchable and frustrating I try to just ignore their existence like everyone else in tri-state area.

by chrislanci on Jun 22, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s why I hate them. “We’re trying to play HOCKEY, assholes!”

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awww baby hockey players! Ovechkin is a creepy little fella as a kid

Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Giving up isn't an option

by Cillo stache on Jun 22, 2011 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/40956-Masterton-Trophy-finalist-Laperriere-keeps-positive-outlook-after-concussion.html

And please please please please let today be the day that Bryzgalov announces on Twitter that the Flyers can’t match his salary demands, and he’s trying free agency. Then we can deal with Washington for the rights to Varlamov at the draft, and have a fantastic one-two Russian goalie tandem. (Varlamov – 30 wins in 59 games, 0.917%SV, 2.39GAA; Bobrovsky – 28 wins in 54 games, 0.915%SV, 2.59GAA … for comparison Bryzgalov has 156 wins in 326 games, a 0.916%SV, and 2.53GAA). Oh, and did I mention that it would cost about $3.5m less than signing Bryzgalov, money that could FINALLY be spent on getting some wingers?!?

Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, but Bryzgalov played behind a crap defense! Varlamov played behind… no defense!

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crap, sarcasm tag forgotten.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think everyone will get it anyway.

Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would also like a Bob/Varlamov combo.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would be totally okay with that. And look, he’s Russian! Russian Russian Russian.

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by ww2b on Jun 22, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will offer you a rant that played in my head this morning:

So I’m travelling southbound on 95, and the time is quarter of 7, and I hit the normal traffic. It’s ok, I’ve accepted my fate in the Northeast Philly parking lot. But it’s a different day, because speed usually picks up after you pass the Girard Ave exit. But no, not today. We are bumper to bump, all of the way to Callowhill. I tell myself, this person better be fucking dead to cause a 2 laner during rush hour on this interstate highway. I finally pass the accident, and low and behold, there was a car accident, and a tow truck ready to perform it’s job. But the kicker was, the accident was on the northbound side of the highway, and a cop just decided to park his cruiser on the southbound side of the highway, out of what I could only think is sheer laziness.

tl;dr: why the fuck would you obstruct the side of the highway with significantly worse rush hour traffic than the other side? Why not just park behind the accident on the northbound side of the highway. Did someone miss the fucking critical thinking skills competition at the academy this year?

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

quarter of 8*

do you poop on parties professionally, or do you just do it as a hobby?

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

This happens far too often. I’ve had this happen in Delaware on 95 and it’s infuriating.

Sorry Buddy.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

it didn’t really bother me that I was late. it bothered me that instead of hopping off at the closest exit, he decided to obstruct a lane during rush hour

I’m better now

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suggest taking a train. I truly enjoy cruising past all the stopped traffic on 95 every morning in my 75-mph SEPTA ride, as I read or nap.

Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

eh, I gravitate away from the train. Need to be able to get from point A to point B. Plus the ride home is way too easy

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as you can deal with Point A-prime to Point B, the transit options are pretty damn good. I drive to the station in the morning, hop the train (which runs every 20 minutes) and get to my office in 40 minutes. I don’t need a car all day, and on the rare occasions I need to go somewhere there’s all the bus/el/subway options in town. Then I hop the train home in the evening, pick up the car, and run my errands from there. I think you’d be pleasantly surprised at the convenience and cost savings.

And no, I don’t work for SEPTA.

Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

took that bus for 4 years from middle school to high school

dont trust septa

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been riding SEPTA since 5th grade (to school for 12 years, to work thereafter). As long as you accept that ‘shit happens’ and also realize that it happens far less than traffic accidents or other foulups on the road, it works great. And the Regional Rail lines are far more civilized than the bus.

But hey – if you’re happy paying $4 a gallon to sit in traffic getting 0 mpg, be my guest.

Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i actually get 20.6 mpg

do you poop on parties professionally, or do you just do it as a hobby?

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

[slow clap]

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alright – 21 mpg. Let’s say you live about as far away from downtown as I do (15 miles, near Woodhaven Road). And let’s assume you get that mileage sitting in 95 traffic, not all your mixed-use. And let’s further say that you have no car payment, and minimum insurance coverage. So you spend $2.64 on gas alone – each way, each day. That’s $5.29 in gas each and every day. Then we say your car insurance is $500 a year (you must live outside the city), so that’s $1.37 a day. Typical maintenance, how about 4 oil changes a year and a set of filters and belts? Averages out to $0.80 a day (and that doesn’t include tires or something actually breaking). You’ve now spent about $7.50 a day just to get to work and back … and you’ve also wasted TWO HOURS behind the wheel, and I haven’t even asked what you pay for parking (which is $18 a day near my office). My SEPTA pass costs less than $5 a day, and I can sleep or read or just laugh at the silly people in traffic for my two hours (or less, usually) to get to and from work.

Sorry – there is NO way that driving into town makes ANY sense. Not to mention the pollution and waste …

Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 miles near Woodhaven Road

you spying on me these days?

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 23, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, SEPTA is “terble.” Until you move away, into some place like transit-forsaken Tennessee, and then you realize it’s like democracy, bad but better than anything else.

/Churchilll’d

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by Bud in TN on Jun 22, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

NHL Kid pics

Love Couture mean look and Dubnyk …well looks like a dork. but my favorite has to be Iggy, with the fro at maybe 4 or 5 yrs old

#1 Flyer fan in Iowa

by Crosby sucks on Jun 22, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Bill Metzer Article

I would cry with joy if the pulled that off. Landeskog is a beast. Plus they wold be able to resign Leino

by asmallvictory31 on Jun 22, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Plus they wold be able to resign Leino

I’d be happier if it some how guaranteed that they wouldn’t resign Leino.

But basically that is Carter + Versteeg for Vorcek’s RFA rights and the 3rd pick. Yeah, I just vomited…and not a little.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and Moore, a defensive prospect, the one thing the Flyers actually have, though granted not as highly touted.

Still vomiting.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love how yesterday we were all preaching patience and good news around the cap.

Two Canadian reporters tweet rumors and we freak out.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well this isn’t me freaking out about that…this me wanting to hit people over the head that like the idea of this trade. Especially those that see being able to keep Leino as part of this as a huge up side.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me freaking out is just below.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carter to Florida for the 3rd pick (Nugent-Hopkins if he’s there, then Landeskog (favorite), then Larsson) AND Gudbranson AND next years 1 AND this years 3. Then we have a deal.

by OrangeNblacK on Jun 22, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that won’t happen.

Well, maybe. It is Dale Tallon. Surprised he hasn’t traded for Brian Campbell.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you were preaching patience and good news, I was preaching impending doom. And I’m only getting worse.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing I find insane is that Versteeg is only worth moving up five slots in the draft. Really?

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jun 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most telling Snider quote:

For me, the goaltender is the final piece on this team

Or, in other words, heads will roll if we don’t win it all next season.

by Boundforbeach on Jun 22, 2011 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, especially with the team being in cap hell… again next summer.

Old man Snider is getting desperate.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. Strangelove

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jun 22, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the 2011 Summer of Cap Hell you have been predicting since the Pronger trade?

The Flyers could potential add another 5+ million dollar UFA. This is not cap hell this is a roster decision. They are choosing to add Brzy over current players on the roster. They are not unloading players in Salary Dumps for any other reason the the Flyers decided to add Brzy. This is not salary cap hell this is a roster decision not one that I agree with but this is not cap hell.

You don’t add a 5-7 million dollar UFA probably the highest or second highest UFA signing of the offseason while in cap hell.

As I predicted last summer Grioux and Carter both signed reasonable fair market contracts and the salary cap more than I even thought almost 5 million dollars. Like I said anything can happen.

Not you in particular Geoff but many people would have traded Carter last summer and not have traded for Meszaros in preparation for this offseason where we would be forced to pay Carter 6 – 7 million per, Giroux another 5 million per all with a salary cap that would be decreasing do the poor economy.

by chrislanci on Jun 22, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Flyers could potential add another 5+ million dollar UFA. This is not cap hell this is a roster decision. They are choosing to add Brzy over current players on the roster. They are not unloading players in Salary Dumps for any other reason the the Flyers decided to add Brzy. This is not salary cap hell this is a roster decision not one that I agree with but this is not cap hell.

The Flyers have 18 players paid for $59 million. They need 4 players with $5 million. They are choosing to dump valuable assets in order to overpay other assets. Just because they’re choosing to spend money in one area doesn’t mean they aren’t in cap hell.

They have more contracts and less space than any one in the NHL, and you’re saying everything is honky-doory?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like Kevin Garnet, anything’s possible!!!!!!

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has Kevin McHale trained any of the NHL GMs?

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by Bud in TN on Jun 22, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the start of last season they added Versteeg and now potentially Brzy that is over 8 million dollars in new contracts in addition to the moves they last summer that many said they shouldn’t have because the this summers cap hell. If they didn’t add Brzy and Versteeg we wouldn’t be in this situation.

They could easily dress the exact same starting roster as last season this season within the salary cap. When we added Meszaros at 4 million nobody thought this would be possible due to all those things, Carters demands Giroux demands, cap potential decreasing blah blah blah…

If many people had their way like I said the Flyers would have traded Carter last offseason and never added Meszaros to prepare for the gloom and doom and the cap hell of Summer 2011.

The fact is the Flyers potentially added 8million dollars in additional salary beyond the Meszaros acquisition. Nobody thought that would be possible and the Homer would be cutting back players from the opening day roster not adding.

I am not saying everything is honky-doory I am just saying this is not the cap hell this is roster decisions. The roster decisions they did last offseason or previous seasons DID NOT put them in cap hell it is decisions that made since the deadline that did it. Adding Versteeg and Brzy. This is nowhere close the Blackhawks cap hell of last year where they lost many players from their 2011 opening day roster.

by chrislanci on Jun 22, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

They could easily dress the exact same starting roster as last season this season within the salary cap.

Is that so? I disagree.

The fact is the Flyers potentially added 8million dollars in additional salary beyond the Meszaros acquisition. Nobody thought that would be possible and the Homer would be cutting back players from the opening day roster not adding.

After shedding how much? How much, Chris? They aren’t just adding $8 million since they don’t have $8 million in cap space. How did they acquire Versteeg? By actually banking cap space for once! They didn’t just add $3 million, they added $1.5 million.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here is last years opening roster with raises with Leighton and Zherdev for good measure.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jody Shelley ($1.100m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Andreas Nodl ($1.000m) / Daniel Carcillo ($1.075m)
Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Darroll Powe ($0.875m) / Nikolai Zherdev ($2.000m)
/ / Ville Leino ($3.000m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
/ Sean O’Donnell ($1.300m)

GOALTENDERS
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m) / Michael Leighton ($1.550m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,969,155; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $30,845

by chrislanci on Jun 22, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot Matt Walker .

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Boucher.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Versteeg.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Versteeg wasn’t on opening day Roster last year Boucher would save Money Walker I try to forget him as much as possible

But you get the point we could easily field the same roster within the cap as we started last without losing any significant pieces.

by chrislanci on Jun 22, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

You didn’t say opening day. You said "They could easily dress the exact same starting roster as last season this season within the salary cap. "

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think by “starting” he meant “opening day”, not “non-scratches”. Or at least I’ll offer him that defense to use against you, whether he meant it or not.

by Eric T. on Jun 22, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a good defense. Remember, I’m captain literal so I missed that alternate definition.

The rebuttal: He’s missing Boucher + Walker + Lappy, since none of those players were on LTIR at the start of the season. There’s nearly $4 million he’s leaving out.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally forgot about Lappy. I’m willing to give him Boosh since you he isn’t under contract for this year and wouldn’t make sense to bring back.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if I’m giving him the “Everybody on opening night roster can come back”, well, no. Flyers had 3 goalies on opening night roster, one of whom was on LTIR. Maybe it saves him $625k, but the fact that the Flyers couldn’t afford last night’s opening night roster without LTIR holds water.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, then put Leights on LTIR then. Just saying, I’m willing to ove rlooks that part because of that fact, and that it doesn’t make sense to bring back Boosh. Sometimes you need to give Chris some help and be less of a D Bag…especially when, even with your help, he’s still wrong.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, he’s only wrong by $2.8 million, not $4 million?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

And wasn’t Jeffie’s contract a bit lower on opening day last year? ($272k less)
And Giroux’s? ($2.9m less!)
There’s your three million that went to Versteeg.

Maybe it should read "reformedpenguinsfan" since I have retired my Lemeiux jersey ... and purchased an Orange and Black Pronger jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not, if he means “opening day”, he means “opening day”. That means everyone.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then he gets to put Leights and Lappy on LTIR right? And where was Walker at Game 1?

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lappy wasn’t on LTIR on Day 1. Neither was Walker.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough…when did Lappy go on?

And I was asking where Walker was, for the life of me I can’t remember the complete roster at day 1?

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injured, but not on LTIR, right?

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, on IR.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walker I try to forget him as much as possible

Whether you forget about him or not, you still have to pay for him, so he counts and you are missing him.

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by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Old man Snider is getting old, therefor, desperate. I see him now as much like Louis XV, not caring what happens a few years from now ‘cause he’ll be gone. He just wants one more parade.

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by mtitanic on Jun 22, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I’m a little disappointed in him for laying our failure this year entirely on the heads of our goalies.

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by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

From RealKyper
#NHL tagging rules mean #Flyers would have to move money off cap first before announcing July 1. Heard Bryzgalov was looking for 7 yr/ 50M

Seriously? $7.14 per year?

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by George E. Ays on Jun 22, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Ugh. I don’t see that being the actual hit, but… ugh.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t see him getting that either, but that’s gotta be at least a solid $1.5m off what he should get. That’s a chasm.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 22, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Friedman backed him up though…

@RealKyper think you are right, heard AAV will be around $7 million for Bryzgalov

I know Bryzgalov wanted $7 mil per year. Didn’t think he wanted $7 mil a year over 7 years.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

If this is happening I won’t be on for a while as I will have broken every computer within a 3 mile radius of me.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m ready to start breaking shit now.

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by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s absurd. I can’t even see how how he can demand that kind of money with Thomas, Luongo, and Miller making significantly less.

by mantis toboggan on Jun 22, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cap’s going up a lot; hello summer of ’07 contracts. We all know how good those still look right….right….

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

But that didn’t immediately jettison important roster players. This will. It’s significantly dumber.

by mantis toboggan on Jun 22, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just responding to

I can’t even see how how he can demand that kind of money with Thomas, Luongo, and Miller making significantly less.

Dumb is dumb, but I don’t put this one on Homer…this is on Eddy.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. My brain is going to explode if keep thinking how it’s possible for someone to arrive at this decision. Doesn’t he have advisors other than Homgren and Luuko? Is he just that fucking crazy?

by mantis toboggan on Jun 22, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

What scares me is that when I stick my head outside, I can’t hear Holmgren laughing at the asking price.

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by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

At that price he will probably/hopefully hit the UFA market realize like the many goalies before him that he is smoking crack and sign on July 3rd for 4.5 million per.

by chrislanci on Jun 22, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its a Glen Sather™ brand contract!

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 22, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s my biggest fear. You guys give Bryz $7m, and Sather gives Hank $9m w/ his next deal

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by George E. Ays on Jun 22, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

That does seem to be the Homer/Sather dynamic.

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by DLJr on Jun 22, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m honestly surprised Sather still has a job.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Much to the surprise of… well, everyone…. he indeed does.

And i thought Miller at 6.25 million was a lot. I guess its because i’m not Glen Sather.

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 22, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be surprised if Dolan could name the GM of the Rangers.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 22, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find that strangely encouraging. Because it hopefully means Bryzgalov is asking simply WAY too much, and Snider’s directive or not there’s no way in hell they can sign him. And then we can move on, get a serviceable player to split the season with Bob (or even shoot higher and land Harding or Varlamov) and get on with completing the forward 9.

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by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snider doesn’t seem worried, no matter the price. “I’m confident that we’ll be able to work something out,” Snider said. “Look, if you don’t spend the money, you ain’t going to get him. It’s really that simple.”

I dunno, Snider seems ready to field a team of Mites on Ice in front of Bryz so we can fit him under the cap.

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by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m banking on the “ain’t gonna get him” part.

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by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the whole sentence tells me he is willing to spend the money.

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by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

HE (Snider) may be, but all indications are that Holmgren is NOT on board. Saw a quote somewhere that said Homer sees the two camps as quite a ways apart. That, my friends, is good news.

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by MaximumTalbot on Jun 22, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit! We’d better not give him that much money! Snider, what the hell have you done?! This is fucking stupid!

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by hintzy64 on Jun 22, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do not want.

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by ww2b on Jun 22, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anything over $5 – 5.5 is to much, he is unproven in playoffs. If it boils down to losing Carter because off salary. Keep moving along, I’d rather ride with Bob and a capable backup.

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by Crosby sucks on Jun 22, 2011 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I dunno, This year looks pretty good to me.

In other news, almost half that list consists of Anaheim goalies.

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 22, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

DGB had the right caption, but the wrong guy’s picture.

by Eric T. on Jun 22, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly what I was thinking, my god.

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by ww2b on Jun 22, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup… just turned on the TV and found the NHL Awards and Lappy is being interviewed :)

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