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Grading the 2011 Flyers: Andreas Nodl

We continue our annual, player-by-player look at the 2010-11 Philadelphia Flyers. In no particular order, we'll analyze one player per day (or so) over the next few weeks. Up next, forward and cult favorite Andreas Nodl.


Andreas Nodl

#15 / Right Wing / Philadelphia Flyers

6-1

196

Feb 28, 1987

10/11 Salary: $735,000

11/12 Cap Hit: RFA

Linemates: 23.83% Mike Richards and James van Riemsdyk

Depth Chart Ranking: No. 4 RW



Basic Stats GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG SOG Hits PKTOI TOI
2010-11 67 11 11 22 14 16 1 1 100 111 0:35 13:16
Adv. Stats (key) TOI/60 CorsiRelQoC CorsiRelQoT Pts/60 GF/60 GA/60 OZ% Fen% Corsi% CorsiRel Sh% Sv%
2010-11 12.26 0.880 (2)
1.708 (5)
1.46 (10)
2.56 (8)
1.68 (1)
43.8 (10)
50.5 (5)
49.8 (5)
-0.9 (10)
8.06 (9)
0.945 (1)

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Expectations: Entering 2010-11, the expectations surrounding Andreas Nodl were rather low. Like, AHL-level low. But then the Flyers decided to carry Nodl on the roster rather than the more experienced Bill Guerin, with Nodl penciled in as the 13th forward on the team. After watching him as a Black Ace in the 09-10 playoffs, Nodl proved a defensive forward capable of playing big minutes. While he was never counted on as a scorer since turning professional, some around here had higher expectations than others.

But taking emotion and bias out of it, a reasonable expectation for Nodl would have been a strong defensive forward, who would chip in a bit offensively, while playing with the energy expected of a bottom-of-the-roster player.

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Defensively, Nodl did what was expected and then some. When he was still in the lineup - mostly prior to the Kris Versteeg acquisition - Nodl played almost exclusively with Mike Richards against the other team's top lines. The pair did a fantastic job at shutting them down. Only Jeff Carter faced tougher competition this year than Nodl did, but nobody had a lower GAON/60 than Nodl.

Most of this was due to his team-high on-ice save percentage, as he was below average at controlling the play relative to his teammates. But the fact that Nodl faced tougher competition than anybody not named Carter, while starting in the defensive zone as often as Carter - most among top-9 forwards - shows that Nodl was fantastic defensively. How much of this was luck is open to debate, but the coaches trusted Nodl in the most difficult of situations, and he reward them.

Offensively, Nodl finished 10th among forwards in points per 60. This obviously could have been better, but as we've shown numerous times, Nodl scored as an average #8 or #9 winger in the NHL. His production may not have been great, but it was perfectly in line with most team's #9 forwards. When you then factor in the fact that Nodl started the year as the 13th forward, you have to admit that he exceeded expectations on offense as well.

Are there better third-line players in the NHL than Andreas Nodl? Absolutely. Kris Versteeg is Exhibit A of that very person. But there aren't many third-line players who are better than Nodl and who cost equal to or less than Nodl will cost next season. On a team that is not only up against the salary cap next year, but looking to increase spending in goal, those value contracts become even more crucial.

Grading criteria: We assign grades on a 1 to 10 scale, with 10 being the best. We base our grades on expectations, execution on those expectations and a player's overall potential. A 10 means that the player had a fantastic, expectation-surpassing season. A 1 means that he was horrible and needs to go. Like, yesterday.

The grade: We're giving Nodl an 8. Nodl had a tremendous season defensively, and a slightly below expectation season offensively. Had his offensive numbers been better, he easily could have gotten a 9. Instead, in a year where he was expected to be a Phantom, he came in and was as good defensively as the Flyers' best defensive forward. Defense isn't sexy, nor is it often appreciated, and Nodl is a great example of that.

Poll
How would you grade Andreas Nodl's 2010-11 season?
10
12 votes
9
25 votes
8
77 votes
7
86 votes
6
36 votes
5
19 votes
4
8 votes
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I agree with pretty much everything. I like Nodl, and I don’t think we’d be able to effectively replace him without spending more money. He definitely needs to stay.

The only I didn’t agree with was the “Defense isn’t sexy” part, I mean, Desjardins was a heartthrob in his day…. haha, j/k.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jun 5, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Defense totally is sexy. And reading this, it makes me think Nodl is just a baby Powe. Which is excellent.

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by Cillo stache on Jun 5, 2011 8:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think “baby Powe” is an insult. Nodl is better defensively and offensively than Powe.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 5, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Nodl! right in the kissa makes no sense.

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by goldomatic on Jun 5, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha… No, it doesn’t.

by 92-74-99-96 on Jun 6, 2011 5:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But Cup O’ Nodl Soup with a Powe on the side isn’t terrible.

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by DLJr on Jun 6, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot all about Bill Guerin, haha. Wow.

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by Justin F. on Jun 5, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez, me too. Makes you wonder who else we’re forgetting. In five years, Carter Hutton will only be a trivia question to most of us…

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by ww2b on Jun 5, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, I’m never gonna forget that guy’s geography test.

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by Justin F. on Jun 5, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess my only comment on these is that they’re based on “expectation.” Which is fine but it allows you to skew people’s scores to where you want them. Like here you give an example of why we should expect more out of Nodl, but then say that a “reasonable” expectation would be less. It kind of just allows you to give a better score if you want to to Nodes. I had higher hopes for Nodl’s offense and give him a 5 for these reasons. But again, all just depends on “expectations”

PS not mad cause I know why these kind of articles are written. They have to be cause they’re awesome and keep up the good work!

by my pal mal 16 on Jun 5, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re entirely right that it all depends on expectations. That’s the new grading scheme for this year.

But as I said, his defense was well above and beyond expectations. His offense was slightly below expectations. That could have easily been a 7, but because he was one of the Flyers’ best defensive forwards (essentially tied with Jeff Carter) and his offense was consistent with a 3rd line player in the NHL, that’s an 8.

As far as having higher hopes for his offense, I would then question your expectations. Why did you expect more than 13.5 goals per 82? He scored 14 goals in 65 AHL games last year, scored 11 goals in 67 NHL games this year.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 5, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what your saying…i guess my expectation started during that stretch he had early that he scored like all of his points it seemed….hoped he could keep it up at a better pace then he did

by my pal mal 16 on Jun 5, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And there we see our disagreement. Our expectations begin at the start of the season, whereas yours changed in the middle.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 5, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Expectations are usually locked to start the season, because it doesn’t make much sense to have them constantly moving (for instance why didn’t your expectations decrease then after he “slumped”). Expectations in grading aren’t dynamic, but rather static.

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by DLJr on Jun 6, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any way that we can show the positional rank for the Flyers next to the advanced stat (in addition to saying his qual comp was whatever it was just have a parenthesis with 2/13 next to it to show the relativity to the other Flyer forwards). I think we are all starting to get comfortable with advanced stats around here but the numbers themselves do nothing out of context for me. If I know a player’s QC is .4 that means nothing to me. But if that .4 is the highest of any teammate, that is where I find the value. I find myself looking carefully the regular stats (G/A/P) and just glancing over the advanced stats because although I know what G/60 means, I really don’t know how good a 1.3 is.

by OrangeNblacK on Jun 6, 2011 4:48 AM EDT reply actions  

This is a great suggestion. I’d love to, but the problem comes from two things: 1) Number overload; and 2) Where to put it.

We’ll tinker around with it though, because this is a really good suggestion.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 6, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was torn between a 7 and 8, mostly b/c of Corsi and his ridiculously high on ice save %. But then you look at some other players and their Corsi given their zone starts, and that Corsi looks a hell of a lot better. So 8.

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Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!

by DLJr on Jun 6, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the CorsiRel and Sv% don’t speak too highly, but his OZ% balances out his CorsiRel, at least for me.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 6, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gee, if only we had some kind of analysis that looked at balancing Corsi Rel by OZ% somehow…I’d guess, just off the top of my head, Nodl would show up at something like 4th or 5th if we could somehow do that.

by Eric T. on Jun 6, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was kind of hoping Travis would have included your numbers in to these.

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by DLJr on Jun 6, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Travis? … Yeah, that guy. Why didn’t he include Eric’s numbers in compiling the advanced stats for these… what a slacker…

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 6, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you figure out how to format the boxes on your own now?

Because before you relied on Travis…but then again, you still should have given him the data…so yeah…my bad…Geoff, you’re a jerk.

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by DLJr on Jun 6, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did all the data, Travis did the formatting.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 6, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at HBL’s CorsiRel and then their competition and zone starts, put Nodl’s in a better perspective for me. Also his OZone finish helped get him that 8 because he did move the play forward.

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by DLJr on Jun 6, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went 6 because despite his 22 pts total which was an better improvement as I complain about all season long 15 of those 22 came before January 1st leaving him with 7 pts in his last 35 some odd GP. A 3rd liner can’t go that cold especially when you have a 60 pt Center playing with you. He is a shutdown player on a two way line and IMO Nodl isn’t two way enough.

by chrislanci on Jun 6, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

So if he got 22 points in 66 games by going _ _ A _ _ G _ _ A _ _ G all season long, with exactly one point every three games, you’d give him a higher grade for the season than if he got 15 points in the first 22 games and then 7 points in the last 35?

Is it because you value the late-season games more — would you give him an even higher grade if he had 7 points in the first 35 and then 15 in the last 22?

by Eric T. on Jun 6, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It’s all about what have you done for me lately…

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by hintzy64 on Jun 8, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

…Vancouver’s #8 and #9 forwards scored 29 points each in 82 and 80 games, or about .02 PPG higher than Nodl. Obviously the Nucks suck.

Oh, and Boston’s #9 full-time forward scored 22 points.

San Jose’s #9 had an awesome 14 points. Maybe you’d be happier with him, since he scored 8 points after January 1st. Who cares if he only scored 6 in the first half of the season?

Bob.

by The Dark on Jun 6, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

“Isn’t two way enough”? Huh? You mean’s he’s too defensive for a shutdown line? I’m sorry, we’ve been having this argument for months, and I still just can’t grasp exactly what you’re arguing. I’m really trying to understand it, I honestly am. All I can figure out is that you hate Nodl for scoring the majority of his points early in the season, and therefore he doesn’t belong on a line with Richards. And so then you low-ball his grade because you think he didn’t belong with Richards. How about judging his performance by himself? Wasn’t he good defensively? And you say yourself that his 22 points was an improvement. But no, he’s not good enough to play with Richards, so that means his season sucked. I just can’t put it together.

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by hintzy64 on Jun 8, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  


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