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Flyers rookie camp begins Wednesday: Roster, schedule, what to expect

Prospect camp, development camp, rookie camp, whatever you want to call it camp starts on Wednesday morning at the Skate Zone in Voorhees. It runs from Wednesday until next Monday, and all sessions are open to the public.

On Friday, the festivities move down to Stone Harbor for the annual Trial on the Isle, where you can see your favorite rookies get their asses kicked by the Jersey Shore sun. Always entertaining. 

Anyway, 41 players are expected to take part in camp this year, from the hyped up Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier to the guys we already know like Zac Rinaldo, Mike Testwuide, Tom Sestito, Ben Holmstrom and others to a ton of unknowns who are ready to show us and management what they have in the tank. 

After the jump, a full schedule of what to expect at camp this week, as well as a full look at the roster expected to show up at camp this year.

Star-divide

Here's the full roster for this year's camp, sorted by position and listed descending order by age. Matt Read is old.

No. Forwards Age From 2010-11 Team Acquired
24 Matt Read 25 Ilderton, Ont., Can. Bemidji St. (NCAA)/PHANTOMS 2011 free agency
34 Ben Holmstrom 24 Colorado Springs, Co., USA PHANTOMS/FLYERS 2010 free agency
29 Mike Testwuide 24 Vail, Colo., USA PHANTOMS 2010 free agency
52 Andrew Rowe 23 Muskegon, Mich., USA PHANTOMS 2010 free agency
37 Tom Sestito 23 Rome, N.Y., USA PHANTOMS, Columbus (NHL) trade with CBJ
9 Harry Zolnierczyk 23 Toronto, Ont., Can. PHANTOMS, Brown (NCAA) 2010 free agency
59 Shane Harper 22 Valencia, Calif., USA Greenville (ECHL)/PHANTOMS 2010 free agency
40 Luke Pither 22 Burketon, Ont., Can. PHANTOMS 2010 free agency
36 Zac Rinaldo 22 Hamilton, Ont., Can. PHANTOMS 2008 draft
42 Jason Akeson 21 Orleans, Ont, Can. Kitchener (OHL) 2011 free agency
60 J.T. Brown 21 Burnsville, Minn, USA Minnesota-Duluth (NCAA) invitee
56 Tyler Brown 21 Wasaga Beach, Ont, Can. Plymouth (OHL) 2011 free agency
47 Eric Wellwood 21 Windsor, Ont., Can. PHANTOMS 2009 draft
53 Tye McGinn 20 Fergus, Ont., Can. Gatineau (QMJHL) 2010 draft
61 Kyle Mountain 20 Bryn Mawr, Pa., USA Penticton (BCHL) invitee
39 Marcel Noebels 19 Toenisvorst, Germany Seattle (WHL) 2011 draft
58 Michael Parks 19 O'Fallon, Mo., USA Cedar Rapids (USHL) 2010 draft
51 Brendan Ranford 19 Edmonton, Alb., Can. Kamloops (WHL) 2010 draft
10 Brayden Schenn 19 Saskatoon, Sask., Can. Saskatoon (WHL), two others trade with Kings
14 Sean Couturier 18 Phoenix, Ariz., USA Drummondville (QMJHL) 2011 draft
68 Petr Placek 18 Slany, Czech Republic Hotchkiss (Ct. HS) 2011 draft
72 Nick Cousins 17 Belleville, Ont., Can. Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) 2011 draft
73 Derek Mathers 17 Strathroy, Ont., Can. Peterborough (OHL) 2011 draft
No. Defensemen Age From 2010-11 Team Acquired
27 Erik Gustafsson 22 Kvissleby, Sweden PHANTOMS/FLYERS 2010 free agency
38 Oliver Lauridsen 22 Gentofte, Denmark PHANTOMS/St. Cloud (NCAA) 2011 free agency
64 Vincent LoVerde 22 Chicago, Ill., USA Miami Ohio (NCAA) invitee
46 Kevin Marshall 22 Boucherville, Que., Can. PHANTOMS 2007 draft
63 Michael Young 22 Calgary, Alb., Can. Nebraska-Omaha (NCAA) invitee
43 Marc-Andre Bourdon 21 St. Hyacinthe, Que., Can. PHANTOMS 2008 draft
55 Tyler Hostetter 20 Lilitz, Pa., USA Erie (OHL) 2009 free agency
50 Brandon Manning 20 Prince George, B.C., Can. Chilliwack (WHL) invitee
62 Adam Phillips 20 Farmington Hills, Mich., USA UMass (NCAA) invitee
57 Ricard Blidstrand 19 Stockholm, Sweden Regina (WHL) 2010 draft
74 Etienne Boutet 19 St-Nicolas, Que., Can. Rimouski (QMJHL) invitee
54 Nick Luukko 19 West Chester, Pa., USA Dubuque (USHL) 2010 draft
65 Colin Suellentrop 18 Plantation, Fla., USA Oshawa (OHL) 2011 draft
No. Goalies Age From 2010-11 Team Acquired
71 Sean Bonar 20 Delta, B.C., Can. Princeton (NCAA) invitee
75 Eric Mihalik 20 Avon Lake, Oh., USA Colgate (NCAA) invitee
67 Brad Phillips 22 Farmington Hills, Mich., USA Bloomington (CHL) 2007 draft
32 Niko Hovinen 23 Helsinki, Finland Pelicans (SM-Liiga) 2011 free agency
70 Kris Westblom 24 Meadow Lake, Sask., Can. Idaho (ECHL) invitee

I ordered the goalies the wrong way. Whoops. 

Anyway, that's the roster. Lots of familiar faces, some really young kids and a remarkable eight year age difference between the oldest guys and the youngest guys. 

What's the point of rookie camp?

Take our chat from a few years ago with then-Flyers prospect Adam Morrison as an example of what the players should expect at camp this week. 

The summer camp was intense. It was a lot of work. It's pretty amazing to see how hard -- you know, you think you're doing everything that a professional athlete would do in the off season and then you come to a camp like that and see how much harder they work and take it to the next level on a daily basis. To be able to take some of that and use it in my game and my own season really helps to get you ready for the professional ranks. It was a great experience all around and I had a lot of fun.

For the guys that haven't been to a camp like this before, it's all about that experience and that jump up in the work level. For guys that have a shot at making the Flyers next year, either out of camp or as a call up, there's a little more pressure. For those guys, it's another opportunity to show what they have as they try to earn an invite to training camp in September.

Schedule -- all open to the public, no ticket required

  • Wednesday: Flyers Skate Zone, Voorhees, NJ
    • On-ice workouts. 9 a.m. to 12:15 p.m.
  • Thursday: Flyers Skate Zone, Voorhees, NJ
    • on-ice workouts. 9 a.m. to 12:15 p.m.
    • public skating session with players, 12:30 p.m. to 3 p.m.
  • Friday: Trial on the Isle, Stone Harbor, NJ
    • 10 a.m.: Bike portion of mini-triathlon begins at 96th Street & 2nd Avenue
    • Paddle boat portion at 89th & Sunset Avenues after bike portion.
    • Running portion follows from 87th Street to 96th Street finish.
    • 12:30 p.m. to 1 p.m.: youth hockey clinic at Stone Harbor Elementary School (3rd Ave between 93rd & 94th Streets.)
    • 1 p.m. to 3 p.m.: Autographs, cafeteria of Stone Harbor Elementary School. $10 donation.
    • 5 p.m: Charity softball game, 80th Street field.
  • Saturday: Flyers Skate Zone, Voorhees, NJ
    • On-ice workouts. 9 a.m. to 12:15 p.m.
  • Sunday: Flyers Skate Zone, Voorhees, NJ
    • On-ice workouts. 9 a.m. to 12:15 p.m.
  • Monday: Flyers Skate Zone, Voorhees, NJ
    • On-ice workouts. 9 a.m. to 11 a.m.

Storylines

- It's no secret that Schenn and Couturier are the most intriguing players in camp. Couturier was a beast in Juniors and will likely not make the team out of training camp in the fall, and his competition in Juniors is probably better than what he'll see in this camp. But it's his first crack at an NHL-type experience, and these camps are all about preparing the guys for what to expect at the next level. 

Will these guys dazzle? Probably. Especially Schenn -- he better dazzle given the hype around him as Best Prospect In Hockey. But you know what? It's rookie camp. Is Schenn better than Kyle Mountain? Yes, he most certainly is (with all due respect to the magnificent Mr. Mountain.) We already know this. Seeing Schenn and Couturier on the ice in Flyers orange for the first time will be great and all, but that's not the true meaning of this camp.

- There's still a battle going on for a roster spot, and somebody at this camp is likely to land it. It's the 13th forward spot on the roster this year, and you have to assume guys like Eric Wellwood, Matt Read and Mike Testwuide are in the conversation to grab it come training camp. This is where the battle begins. 

- Personally, I'm looking forward to the battle between Tom Sestito and Zac Rinaldo. While those other players are skill guys, you have to think that Rinaldo and Sestito are the front-runner for that spot. You can easily understand why the Flyers would want to keep the skill in the AHL and have the tough stuff up with the big club in Philadelphia. Sestito and Rinaldo represent that grit, cost the same under the cap and, barring any more moves by Paul Holmgren, one of them should line up as the 13th forward after training camp. 

- On defense, what's the continued deal with Kevin Marshall and Marc-Andre Bourdon? And, of course, Erik Gustafsson? It'll be nice to see those three players going up against each other again, because they're really the tops we have in the organization when it comes to defensive prospects. If one of them wants to turn into Lidstrom all the sudden, I don't think we'll mind. 

- I'm interested to see what Niko Hovinen brings to the table. The goalie, signed a few months back, was good enough that the Flyers let then-top prospect Joacim Eriksson walk away from the organization. What'd we get?

- Finally, what's the deal with Brendan Ranford? He was unreal to start last season in the WHL and expectations got really, really high, but his game and production quickly tailed off as the season progressed into the second half. So uh, what's he show this week?

So, that's a look at camp this year. It starts tomorrow. If you're going to be in Voorhees at all, make sure to say hey. 

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I wish I could be there.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Me too. I’ll be up in Ontario. Darn it.

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by Flyers_Section_121 on Jul 5, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been down in NC since end of May and I’ll be here until beginning of August.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is ‘Trial on the Isle’ just from the camp roster or do some of the NHL boys participate? In the competition or the autograph signing?

by ddroll on Jul 5, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Some of the NHL guys tend to show up. Like Jeff Carter, since he lives down there in the summer.

Oh.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 5, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch, Travis. Too soon?

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

any idea if they announce who shows up in advance?

by ddroll on Jul 5, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubt it.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 5, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never to my personal knowledge. I know in year’s past some of the regular players have gone down to be in the softball game, but you never know who ahead of time

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those goalies are, well, underwhelming.

They couldn’t even bring back Chris Rawlings? He was raw last year, but pretty impressive. Invitee from Northeastern, 6’2" 210 goalie. Surely the Flyers could find a spot for him. It’s not like they have goaltending prospects any more.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 5, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Rawlings was raw. Go figure.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 5, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Butbutbut...

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone get me a detailed breakdown of Marcel Noebels?

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jul 5, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF9-sEbqDvU

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 5, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jul 5, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha

What the eff?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 5, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 6, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it bad that as soon as it loaded i was like “Marcel the Shell! I remember this lil’ guy!”?

personally
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by 02h32m01s on Jul 5, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, that’s a look at camp this year. It starts tomorrow. If you’re going to be in Voorhees at all, make sure to say hey.

Does that mean you’re going to be there, Travis?

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes ma’am.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 5, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna be there Thursday, and possible Saturday, Sunday, and Monday?

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jul 5, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Planning to be there on Thursday unless work interferes.

by trtaylor on Jul 5, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh we’re going to have a big group on Thursday. I better get there early.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

trial on the isle date!?

Is it being held this Friday the 8th?? Several people have told me its next Thursday the 14th. Can someone give me an assist?

by Boundforbeach on Jul 5, 2011 7:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

...
Friday: Trial on the Isle, Stone Harbor, NJ
10 a.m.: Bike portion of mini-triathlon begins at 96th Street & 2nd Avenue
Paddle boat portion at 89th & Sunset Avenues after bike portion.
Running portion follows from 87th Street to 96th Street finish.
12:30 p.m. to 1 p.m.: youth hockey clinic at Stone Harbor Elementary School (3rd Ave between 93rd & 94th Streets.)
1 p.m. to 3 p.m.: Autographs, cafeteria of Stone Harbor Elementary School. $10 donation.
5 p.m: Charity softball game, 80th Street field.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you guys think its worth a ride up from delco to see it?

I really don’t have anything better to do and if its free..

but that is a lot of gas and a long drive early in the morning.

by ColeStevens on Jul 5, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

my brother or gf will make the ride with me

so its not like it wont be some fun, basically wondering about gas.

by ColeStevens on Jul 5, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I make the trip from delco at least twice every year, its really worth it if your really dedicated to the Flyers. A casual fan would probably get board after an hour. The trip itself isn’t bad at all.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jul 5, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you’re interested in getting to form your own opinions about these guys and see their skills in person, I’d say it’s worth it. I personally like going when it’s not the very first day, so most of the guys have gotten the jitters out of their system. I didn’t get to go last year, though, so maybe someone else’s opinion is different from my own.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year was OK, but thats mainly because our prospects were, well, you know.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jul 5, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going tomorrow! Bringing my girlfriend as well. Any tips for a first timer? And who else is going tomorrow?

by ColeStevens on Jul 5, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sit against the wall.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 6, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really wish Bobs would be there. Especially because he’s only had one year in NA, and will be a backup next season.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jul 5, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish Jagr would be there

It's a hockey, you know. it's only... it's only game. Why you heff to be mad?

by Philly4Cup on Jul 5, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, a leauge that’s continuing through its offseason? What is this?

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by JasonB on Jul 5, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

THIS.

IS.

HOCKEY!

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

A league that pulled that crap 7 years ago and will probably do it again next year.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jul 5, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please no. I don’t think hockey can survive it happening again.

Simon Gagne may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, he will always be a Philadelphia Flyer.

Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, he will also always be a Philadelphia Flyer.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Jul 5, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kid of bad when more than half of your “prospects” can legally drink alcohol.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jul 5, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And +1.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 5, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m excited to head down on Saturday. Hopefully guys aren’t nursing knicks and bruises by then.

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by Pronger? I don't even know her! on Jul 5, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Excited to see which tough guy comes out on top. I’m pulling for Sestito over Rinaldo.

by DrunkHockeyFan on Jul 5, 2011 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m pulling for this because Rinaldo needs more development time to learn to focus his Batshit Crazy into something useful.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on this one.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s gonna be hard for Rinaldo. Sestito has 6 inches on him. 6’ 5" vs 5’ 11". Also in 46 games Sestito had 32 points. Rinaldo had 9 in 60.

by DrunkHockeyFan on Jul 5, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

AHL numbers that is. Sestito also added another 4 points in his 9 NHL games last year.

by DrunkHockeyFan on Jul 5, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sestito Tostito.

And he wants to win a Lady Byng.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha. I missed that tweet.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, it was in a reply to me.

I said…

@TomSestito23 You going to win something at the #NHLAwards one day?

and he said

@ItsAFez66 most likely lady byng

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be there tomorrow, mainly cause i’m pretty sure I’ll be driving the shortest distance to get there.

by vmp85 on Jul 5, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Only by a few blocks, dude.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, still counts, plus it beats spending all day in the library studying for my step 2 boards

by vmp85 on Jul 5, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, definitely. I don’t blame you for picking the prospects over studying one bit.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

As in med school boards?

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes that would be right

by vmp85 on Jul 5, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice!

My sister just started 3rd year rotations.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be there Thursday, Sat, Sun, and Mon

by OrangeNblacK on Jul 5, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d like to make it there every day, but I probably won’t be able to get there until the weekend.

Along with many players, I’m very interested in both Akeson and Ranford. I think I remember reading (on another forum) that Ranford was having problems with the coach at the end of his season, and that’s why his production fell. I’ll see if I can find that info again.

by A Flyers Phamily on Jul 5, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Not to be mean to you, but my response to the “I was having problems with my coach, hence my production fell” line is:

Bullshit.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 5, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it turns out I found a little something.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=833254

Interesting I remembered that; it was from February.

It sounds like to me that when his linemates got hurt, he turned into a “I have to do it all myself” kind of player, and that’s what put him on the outs with the coach.

I guess next time I’d better have my facts in a perfectly straight line before I post. Otherwise Geoff comin’ ta get me.

by A Flyers Phamily on Jul 5, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, while links are always good to support claims, I am really bad at finding things through google.

But I wasn’t saying he didn’t say it, I’m saying that’s weaksauce. Ranford’s season split into groups:

09-10: 65 points in 72 games
10-11: 44 points in first 26 games
10-11: 42 points in final 42 games

Ranford got hot for 26 games, he didn’t go cold for 42.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 5, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you’re saying. I wasn’t trying to give him an excuse for reduced production; I was literally trying to remember what I had read. I remembered where I had read it, but I hadn’t gone combing through their forums to find it yet. A bit lazy on the legwork there, I was.

I don’t know much about the WHL, but isn’t a point per game decent? Especially from a 7th round pick?

by A Flyers Phamily on Jul 5, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I knew what you were saying. I tried to make it clear that I was calling bullshit on Ranford, not you.

He finished tied for 13th in the WHL in points, so it wasn’t bad. Of those who played 50 games or more, 53 of them scored at a ppg pace.

It wasn’t a bad season at all. I just take exception to any notion that he’s closer to 1.6 ppg than 1.2 ppg.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking about heading down but I would like to go on a day that there will be a scrimmage. Any clue if there will be any, and if so, what day?

by Sink. on Jul 5, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Travis, JpH, or Geoff – Do they still scrimmage almost every day? I don’t remember.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its random, but I remember them saying the ’main" scrimmage is the 11th.

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by JpH89 on Jul 5, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year, they scrimmaged every day.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate you guys with cars

NO not really but I took off from work tomorrow to go to a deposition and I just found out it was cancelled. I would of loved to go up there and watch some of the new or young guys battle it out. Oh well. we we wee wee wee (worlds smallest violin).

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by darkside3744 on Jul 5, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

If you really really wanted to go, you could take Patco to Lindenwold and then grab the 459 bus which drops you off like 500 feet from the practice facility. It’s a pain in the butt to take public transit, but it is possible, since it’s less than 2 miles from the train station. 5 bucks roundtrip for Patco from 8th & Market then 1.50 for the bus. I’m just throwing it out there for you since I’m a local, you don’t have to take me seriously.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 5, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before I had a baby I would have tried but between running and the all nighters I dont know if I have it in me to try this.But thanks anyway

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by darkside3744 on Jul 5, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stefan Legien

What’s up with him? I saw on cap geek he has one more year on his contract, is he on the outs with the organization?

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by Rrainone on Jul 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He might have gotten in trouble for tweeting a picture of “Little Stefan” in late May.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way! Hahahah what an ass! That’s great.

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by Rrainone on Jul 5, 2011 10:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have a feeling he did it drunkenly, though, since it was late at night and it’s Stefan Legein for goodness sakes.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did set up the Phantoms like the Flyers, which were set up to be like a frat at ASU.

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by JpH89 on Jul 5, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Went to ASU and most of the frat’s didn’t have anything on us non-greek students. The one exception was Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike), those guys were straight up fucked in the head. The things I’ve heard from mulitple people are incredibly disgusting. Partying as a whole kinda dropped in 2007 at ASU unfortunately.

by KornontheKobb on Jul 6, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be there. Bright and early.

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by nastynas88 on Jul 5, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Samsies. It’s “Samsies” with no first “e”.

/TravisHughes’d

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was uh...

uh…

a typo! Yeah!

Actually i couldn’t remember if there was an e or not and went back and forth for a bit before I remember it was a internet meme and it doesn’t need that much thought.

by ColeStevens on Jul 5, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I’m going to try to find the picture someone made.

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by Chemistry66 on Jul 5, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happens to Denis Hamel? Will he be given a tryout contract so that he can be in camp (and then go to the Phantoms after camp)?

by NickFotiu4HOF on Jul 6, 2011 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Probably an AHL contract, so no camp.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 6, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

If one of them wants to turn into Lidstrom all the sudden, I don’t think we’ll mind.

LOL

I’ll be looking forward to the reports from all you lucky people going to camp. I agree – the Sestito/Rinaldo thing should be interesting, as will the showing of Schenn and Couturier. And if Gus or Bourdon hit the ’roids (so to speak) over the off-season, that will make it interesting too.

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by MaximumTalbot on Jul 6, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Manning is listed as an invitee. I thought we signed him to an EL deal as a FA last year after he turned down a contract from the Rangers.

by mtitanic on Jul 6, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought so too. Travis said he just went off the Flyers’ sheet though.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 6, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Rinaldo has more to prove, so I expect him to go crazy. Didn’t he drop em with Lauridsen last year at camp? Sestito and Rinaldo had a real good fight last new years eve, I hope they have a rematch that you guys capture on film :).

I’m looking forward to hearing about the goalies. I assume without a shadow of a doubt Leight’s will be in ADK, but I’m especialy interested in Niko Hovinen given just his size alone.

If anyone cares about my opinion, Testwuide was hot in the last half of the year, being one of the only + (I think +6) and picking up over 20 goals in that span. He’s stronger and has a full year of pro under his belt, I think hes going to impress this year at camp.

by ryan1 on Jul 6, 2011 12:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Travis are you videotaping this and posting it on youtube by any chance because that would be so amazing. I have class and can’t make it down but really wanted to see schen and coutouries skating for myself since the scouts seem to say there both a little week

by ETrain145 on Jul 6, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

so is sean coutouries number really going to be 14? I was hoping he would just double up his qmjhl #7 and go with 77 oh well

by ETrain145 on Jul 6, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

who's got the best shot?

Who do you guys think has the best shot of making the squad this year? Schenn, Couturier, or Sestito? Possibly 2 of the 3? None of them? I’m hoping at least Schenn, and possibly Couturier if he can dazzle management at this rookie camp. I’d love to see a Jeff Skinner/Logan Couture campaign outta one of them!

Here's to Simon Gagne hopefully winning a cup, a small victory for flyers fans everywhere.

by GirouxLaLa on Jul 6, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Couturier I would say has next to 0% chance. He qualifies for the slide rule for the contract limit and the Flyers are already close to that contract limit. Let him develop in juniors while he’s exempt from the contract limit type.

Schenn, I’d rather him not be put in a position to be the 3rd line center, but it looks like it could happen, i would say 50/50.

Sestito I think makes the team as the 13th forward to spell Shelley, say 80%.

Meh.

by DLJr on Jul 6, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on Couturier being a slim to nothing chance, but I think it’s going to have as much to do with the lack of a bonus cushion as it does with the slide rule. If he’s as good as people want him to be, and ready to make a big splash right out of a rookie camp, then his cap hit is not going to be cheap.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 6, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah agreed, just didn’t want to comment on that aspect until I have an idea of what his contract looks like. The no bonus cushion this year is a mild pain. But I think more than both of those things, he isn’t ready to step in yet at the NHL level in a role we would need him in (checking line center), and that role may hinder his development.

Meh.

by DLJr on Jul 7, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  


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