Friday Morning Fly By: When's the Viewing Party for the Flyers/Sens Brawl From 2004?
by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 19, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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- In praise of Claude Giroux and a look at his upcoming year: [The Hockey Guys]
- The Phantoms schedule was released: [PostStar.com] [Philly Sports Daily]
- A YouTube tribute to Eric Lindros that necessitates being watched on mute: [Flyers Goal Scored By...]
- Jakub Kovar stopped 28 of 30 shots in a shootout win over Kimmo Timonen, Sami Kapanen, and Scott Hartnell -owned KalPa, getting named second star of the game: [euroflyers]
- WIP will be taking over 94 WYSP, and while this looks at the impact it will have on the Union, it's worth a look: [Brotherly Game]
- No, Howard Eskin will not be going with WIP. Thankful for that fact: [Broad Street Buzz]
- The Islanders have decided not to show the brawl with the Penguins at their viewing party, which is lame: [SI.com] [Puck Daddy]
- There was a trick shot competition at the NHL's Research and Development camp, video of the shootout attempts: [Puck Daddy]
- Random: Video from Canada's victory over the U.S. in the 1991 Canada Cup: [Flyers Goal Scored By...]
- Justin Bourne takes a look at painkillers in hockey: [Puck Daddy]
- Who are the goons in the NHL? [Pension Plan Puppets]
- A great breakdown of Patrick Sharp's usage in Chicago: [Driving Play]
- A fascinating look at where NHL coaches come from, in family tree form: [The Copper & Blue]
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Regarding the Pension Plan Puppets story on goons – the commenters there focused on ways to limit the goons from fighting, like a 5 fight limit prior to getting suspended followed by gradually increasing suspensions. I saw a comment long ago (I think it was here) about using a TOI threshold for suspensions as well. If the player has more than x fights (2? 3?) he will be subject to being suspended earlier if his average TOI is under 5 (8?) minutes/game. It would either force coaches to give their goons more ice time, an obvious disadvantage, force them to have fighters who can actually play, or to have the goons get suspended more frequently. I would have posted this a Pension Plan, but the comments were already closed.
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Suspensions aren’t a very good punishment , they understand it’s a risk of how they play so one or two are a grain of salt.
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by Cillo stache on Aug 19, 2011 7:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As i mentioned before, there’s nothing stopping coaches from just letting their goons get suspended and calling up a substitute goon. Its not like there aren’t 2-5 goons on every minor league team.
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That’s a good suggestion except that you’d have to take into account Ubiquitous’ thought about substitute goons being used.
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Lindros got me into the Flyers as a kid
I might have simply been too young to understand why so many Flyers fans hate him, but I really dislike the many Flyers fans who seem to forget what Lindros brought to this team in the 90s.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Aug 19, 2011 8:24 AM EDT reply actions
Badly worded: I don’t dislike those fans, I just dislike that idea of ignoring his contributions.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Aug 19, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been a Flyers fan a long time, in fact I’ve seen the Cup twice. The problem with Lindros isn’t his talent, which was awesome. The problem is him the person. Between his reliance as a grown man to have “daddy” handle his affairs to his banging Brind’Amour’s wife, he left the image of being slimier than a squid’s dick. Along with unfulfilled promise.
by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 19, 2011 8:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was also a kid when Lindros was around. And I guess I’m glad that I was blissfully unaware of all the stuff away from the rink. We watch hockey for what they do on the ice. Who cares about anything else?
by Eugene Markman on Aug 19, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The Philadelphia media.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Aug 19, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Regular season single game tickets
Any idea when they go on sale?
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Phantoms Schedule
It wasn’t clear from the schedule, but it doesn’t look like they’re playing a “homecoming” game in Philly like they have each year since the team left Philly.
Also, any word on whether the Albany Devil’s are playing some games in AC again?
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
I don’t think the Devils are. There are rumors that the Phantoms are playing an outdoor game at CBP though, a few days after the Winter Classic.
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by Travis Hughes on Aug 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking at their schedule, hopefully it will be the Jan 6 game against Hershey, that would be an event for fans of both teams.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
I can’t tell but maybe someone else can. Was the decision to drop the brawl game from the viewing party schedule made after the Pens fanbase/ brass/ Mario complained? Pens fans tend to be crybabies to begin with, but I would think they alone don’t wield enough influence to get that game dropped. Did the league ( Bettman) step into this in some unofficial capacity to stop it? Had the Pens won that game, wouldn’t they show it at their own viewing parties?
Considering all the suspensions and outrage over the events of that game, I wouldn’t be surprised if the league stepped in and said they probably shouldn’t be glorifying it with a viewing party.
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I guess WYSP’s ratings tanked. WIP is trying to stay competitive with EPSN radio and moving over to the FM dial now too. So WIP is spreading tot he FM dial. The only good news is that Eskin will ave a reduced role.
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What’s going on with WIP? Will I still get them on my phone through tune in radio?
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I think you will. They’re picking up an FM simulcast on 94.1 starting on, I think, Sept. 6.
by 92-74-99-96 on Aug 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hey
If hockey teams wore soccer kits….
My friend showed me that last night, it’s kind of cool. I could totally dig that “Wells Fargo” jersey sponsorship……
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 19, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Majupra, the guy who created them has invited Greg Wyshynski over to reddit do an AMA (ask me anything)
Link
by Prometheus74 on Aug 19, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed don’t like how he used the black in either one. At first I thought we were sleeveless on the orange. Really dislike the black. By far I think the flyers are near the bottom of the pack after checking them all out. I admit it could be bias though since our sweater is very good and it’s hard not to compare to that.
by zot22 on Aug 19, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the best thing about soccer uniforms is that the teams don’t have home/away jerseys, they have primary and alternate jerseys. As long as they aren’t to close to the home team, the road team can still wear their main jersey. And the alternate jersey doesn’t have to be white either.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
I’m sure the Flames and Senators would be thrilled about having to wear the same logo on their uniforms. Obviously the kits are different, but it would probably still look funny when they played against each other.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Aug 19, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
God I miss Sami :(
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Aug 19, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
Drury
The NHLPA announced what Andy Strickland said weeks ago- Chris Drury is retiring. I would’ve liked to see him extended a tryout, but oh well.
Now that former Canucks first round pick Patrick White is a free agent, should the Flyers sign him to a minor league deal? We need some players to play for the Titans, don’t we?
So, we’re losing another rock station in the city and it’s being replaced by a shitty sports station?
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Yup. Further cementing WMMR as the best station in Philly.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
^ yup
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by Travis Hughes on Aug 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends on your definition of "rock"
I don’t really listen to WMMR or WYSP anymore because their definition is a bit to narrow for me, I hate most of the new stuff they play, and I’m tired of their limited playlist of old stuff.
These days my car is most often on 104.5, and sometimes XPN
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
104.5 for music
WMMR for preston & steve
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by coheedandtbs on Aug 19, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Is 104.5 trying to be the new Y100?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 19, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda, but 104.5 plays more indie rock.
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yeah, 104.5 is more on the indy side of alt-rock, y100 was more on the emo/pop-punk side.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
I just went on 104.5’s site and looked at last 10 played.
To my surprise, Brand New was on the list. Other than that, I’m not particularly impressed. I guess they’ll be my backup station now that 94.1 is gone though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 20, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s a bummer. One of the largest cities in the country—and one of the most prominent media markets—and we have exactly one rock station now. Just goes to show that everything is moving toward catering to the younger demographic, and they don’t listen to music on the radio. That’s what the iPod is for.
At the very least, Eskin is leaving. It’s a start. Now if we can find someway to remove Cataldi it would be perfect. Alas, his ratings are too high which makes me sad.
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by Travis Hughes on Aug 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
each
and every day is another step closer to the start of the season
thank jeebus.
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by Snevik on Aug 19, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You realize, of course, what this means. We have to make even more Chaim Weisswasser references so we can pass PPP on the google search results. There’s no way we’re getting beat out by a bunch of Leafs fans, even in the offseason!
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Goons
that article is spot on but I can’t read the comments anymore. Automatic game misconducts and suspensions for fighting is absurd.
once GM’s realize goons only fight goons they’ll be gone. Players need to be able to play the game on top of fighting now.
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Fighting
can never go away totally. In my opion it is a part of the game that people both love and hate but no matter how you feel it has to be there. If you take fighting out which they tried to start to do in the 90’s with instagation and I think game misconducts they saw the stick work get out of hand. It is part of the game and has been for a long time, you will always need players to stick up for the smaller and more skilled player. Take away fighting and the cheapshots and stick work will end up hurting a superstar.
There’s a difference between fighting and goons. Goons need to be taken out of the game, fighting needs to stay.
In other words, the Colton Orr’s and Jody Shelley’s and Trevor Gillies’ of the world need to be removed from the NHL. The Ian Laperriere’s and Mike Rupp’s and Ryan Clowe’s of the world need to stay.
That’s the distinction made in the PPP article, and it’s one the NHL needs to make.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 20, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Trevor Gillies had 2 goals this year. Imagine if he was playing more then 3 minutes a night? By my math he could have been a 100 goal scorer.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 20, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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