Thursday Morning Fly By: Matt Ellison Was Definitely Worth It
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- We already knew the Flyers had a large cap penalty this year, but it's the largest in the NHL: [Jewels From The Crown]
- Kimmo Timonen held his annual golf tournament for charity, and here's the photo album: [Kime 4 Kids]
- Then and now series continues with Patrick Sharp: [Flyers Faithful]
- Catching up with Tim Kerr: [CSNPhilly]
- Ian Laperriere, or at least his fake teeth, will be the punchline of a Judd Apatow joke: [Puck Daddy]
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I ate some Cap’n Crunch, at all I could find was sugary delicousness. Sorry mikefive
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You should have made a Cap Space joke with that instead. Frankly I think Mike’s dream was just his psychic abilities kicking in that the Flyers would soon be in a serious dilemma with the Cap again, and he knew Geoff would be looking in to it further, apparently at his Aunt’s house.
You sir are a gentleman of four outs!
It’s almost like Homer isn’t comfortable unless he is right up against the cap.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Great article on Tim Kerr. He suffered enough tragedy and injuries for two men, and I am happy for him that things are going good. He certainly deserves it. A class act, an oak tree in front of the net, an all-time Flyers legend.
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My parents used to drink with the Flyers in the late-70’s somewhere near Haddon Heights. And as much as I like Lappy, JVR, Hartnell and Co., I think I’d rather have a Molson Ice with The Hammer, Clarkie and Joe Watson. I’m sure their Dirk Diggler stories were better than JVR’s, “I Worked Out All Summer Using Resistance Training” stories. I love the Flyers. I love the current players – they’re (mostly) straight class. But they’re also the most BORING people this team has ever had.
LeClair > Any Non-Flyer > Lindros > Any Non-Flyer
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Courtesy of today's flyby link...
I’d be happy having a drink with Harts here.


You sir are a gentleman of four outs!
I should clarify that, I mean the woman in the top picture.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Sure looks like Bree Olson...
In that top picture with Harts… anyone else agree?? Did she switch from tiger blood to ginger blood?
Not sure how you knew where she was but okay… Dunno how he does it but Harts seems to have his way with Blonde biscuits. Now that Carter is out of the picture maybe this chick will stick around!
She looks about the same age as me…this could work…
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by Cillo stache on Aug 25, 2011 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ve given up trying to guess the age of women, especially European women; I think Kat looks 17 and she is 25. This is at a Pub post charity golf tournament, none of the underage kids that took place in the golf portion appear in the pub pictures. I’m fairly certain she is legal. And point stands, I wouldn’t mind being there drinking with Harts.
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none of the underage kids that took place in the golf portion appear in the pub pictures.
While I don’t disagree with you that this is probably in fact true, the fact that it is almost impossible to tell a woman’s age anymore and the existence of fake ID’s means that underage people, both men and women still seem to get into places they shouldn’t.
As for your overall point, I agree, I would enjoy having a beer or several with Harts.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I don’t disagree, but nothing there seems out of place. Personally I think she looks at least 18-20, which is too young for me anyway, and would thus ignore her beyond the general manners of politeness.
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I think generally women and men look younger than in the past, as people are living longer, the aging process holds off a bit more than it used to—at least for some. I have seen some 25 year-old women who look 40. No one ever gets my age right, but thankfully they always guess on the low side. I think it’s always best to err on the low side, and even if the women become indignant because you don’t think they look 22, tell them to be grateful. I looked 21 at age 14.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Not so sure I buy into the causality there.
People are living longer because we have better medicines and surgical procedures for treating ailments that used to kill people in their 60’s, which won’t make them look younger in their 30’s. Reduced smoking and cholesterol are the only preventative measures I can think of that might impact appearance, but it doesn’t sound likely.
With that being said, people are always wrong about my age too. When I was 31, I got carded…when trying to go to an R-rated movie.
I’m currently there with you Eric, especially when clean shaven.
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Well, there’s also operations and cosmetic procedures that stave off the aging process…but I do think a healthier lifestyle helps. Less sunbathing is imperative. We know more about free radicals and sun protection than in the past.
Either way, looking younger than one’s age is a good problem to have.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
My wise Uncle always said to me “I’d rather have 2 20’s than one 40”.
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Sounds like a real Einstein.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Would you say this if you were not engaged?
What strikes me about the lower picture is the women are well-dressed w/ attention to hair, complexion, skin tone, accessories, etc. while the guys w/ shirttails out, unshaven, unkempt, look like more like they just regained conciousness. At least Hartnell can hold a beer and remain upright.
The guys are all pro hockey players; attention to detail in dress or any glimmer of sartorial correctness is beyond their grasp or at least their concern.
And yes, I’d say the same thing if I weren’t engaged. I find, at least at 30, that often, people under the age of 24 or 25 don’t have enough to say to keep my interest, and before I settled down, I began to require at least some conversation in my one night interludes.
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agree 100%. 26 is my current cut off point. I just don’t understand anyone younger.
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I have a five-year radius. Someone can be as much as five years younger than me, or five years older than me. Beyond that, no thank you. My last GF was at the low end of my personal age spectrum, and while we had a good deal in common personality-wise, we had some serious differences in world views and other things. The latter had more to do with when/where we each grew up, etc. So that’s why I can’t go lower than five years.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
It’s always been pretty much that way; not just with hockey players. Women pay more attention to their appearance than men, as society dictates. Men who do are considered vain or have their sexuality questioned. I don’t get this metrosexual stuff. If you want to take care of your skin that makes you less of a man?
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Agreed. I see this most evident every spring during “prom season”. The girls are all well dressed and lovely, the guys look not much different than the picture above and sometimes worse. My wife and I have always found that appalling. As for the “metrosexual stuff”, that’s a separate issue.
Well, I guess what I am saying is why do they call a man a metrosexual for getting his cuticles trimmed and using moisturizers? Getting the back hair waxed is a very good thing, thankyouverymuch.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
This is just untrue. It just depends on location, profession, and background. Here in this area, I agree. Though i will say women care far more as to what is fashionable at the moment rather than classical style or good sense.
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I just said the women look kempt, not that they had any sense of fashion. LOL. For God’s sake when did it become acceptable to wear yoga pants as a part of everyday attire?
Obviously, someone who works in a professional field that forces them to dress up will be better put together.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I have nothing against women walking around in Yoga pants all day. (leggings paired with anything that doesn’t cover down towards your knees however just looks bad, but at least its better than the College trend of girls in grey sweatpants I saw a few years ago, that was REALLY bad.)
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
I think it’s fine if you’re coming from the gym or confined to your house all day—or actually out exercising. Not at the mall, however. They are exercise pants. At least they are better than the pajamas that were being worn regularly by the younger set.
For me, like manners, it’s about respect for others. Respect other people enough to at least put some effort into attire for social settings. Don’t have to be dressed to the nines or even wearing makeup; it’s about making a conscious effort to not have parts of your body showing that shouldn’t be and wearing age appropriate apparel. Yesterday I went to my son’s kindergarten orientation and there was a mother there with her son…I swear I couldn’t tell which was the student. She had on a tank top and shorts that barely covered her ass. She had a Coach bag, though, so obviously she could have afforded the additional length on the hem of the shorts.
If I sound old and elitist, so be it. You are in an elementary school. You don’t have to wear hideous Mom Jeans, but for the love of Peter, cover your ass.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I went to my son’s kindergarten orientation yesterday too. Sadly, none of the moms there seemed nearly that slutty. Oh well.
[OK, technically my wife went, not me, and I have no idea whether there were any slutty moms. But this version is a better story.]
Just to clarify, I don’t think women that dress that way are slutty per se. I just think they follow trends and don’t choose appropriately for their age/body/status. She’d have been fine for the shore, but there’s nary an ocean in sight here.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
and yea there is nothing as sad as a Mom trying to be 20 again. unless that mom is 14.
http://restorations.bandcamp.com/
She did look young to have a son that age and there’s nothing wrong with that, and absolutely there’s nothing wrong with refusing to age gracefully (i.e. I refuse to dress in Lilly Pulitzer or J.Jill or the LL Bean in which women my age regularly adorn themselves), but there’s fashion and then there’s fad. Teen years are for experimentation wherein you learn the difference.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
come to Fishtown, that style is still the coolest thing these kids have seen. sweatpants with sandals and black socks. that’s what they wear “to go out”
so gross.
http://restorations.bandcamp.com/
Sounds like Port Richmond, too. I guess it’s that segment of Kensington in general.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
yeah it’s this whole corner of the city. Kensington isn’t as bad only because they still can’t afford sandals. I’m sure it’ll be cool as fuck over there in 5 years. I kid. but not really, it is the poorest area in the city.
I also just read the new PW and the top 10 drug corner’s are all within 10 blocks of me. USA USA USA! At least I know I won’t have to walk far when the Hurriquake hits for drugs.
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And don’t you dare wear sandals without socks, that’s the biggest fashion mistake you can make.
by hebrew hammer on Aug 25, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If you want to get an idea of the down fall of classic style and good sense, look at what has become of the dinner jacket/tuxedo. It’s horrendous today, with the wedding industry and red carpets as the leading culprits of its demise. But I will say there is a very large segment of men that care a great deal about dress/style that aren’t anything close to having anything to do with metrosexualality., and conservative business dress (let’s face it, conservative business dress hardly exists anymore, especially in this area) is but only a small part of their interest’s roots. And yes, I realize it’s hilarious that a guy who wears pearl snaps is talking about this, but I have a secret love of suits and evening dress that is much less secret now.
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Barney, is that you? SUIT UP!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Haha, I have some negative things to say about Barney’s suits on HIMYM (some skinny lapels are too fashion forward for my taste, think back to the huge lapels of the 70’s, and some of his 3 buttons make him look short and stocky, he’d be better off in a 3 roll 2, but I digress). But I appreciate that he is at least suited up, and would rather go naked than not wear a suit (then again his job requires one). I would do it far more often if I was in the company of others who wore it, or if dress standards out in nice restaurants and social setting hadn’t dropped to embarrassing levels. But frankly, wearing a suit in most social situations I am a part of would be considered obnoxious at best as it’s not part of my work wardrobe.
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I like the slim suits and skinny lapels if you can pull them off. A somewhat less well constructed suit is better than jeans/t-shirt in a formal situation any day of the week. Every man looks better in a suit. Fact.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I’m assuming by slim suits you mean an appropriately suppressed waist with proper sleeve and jacket length. Barney’s suits pull it off nicely I think because he keeps proper sleeve and jacket length, but I think he uses the wrong colors for them. I would use them for more informal jackets/suits, not the typical dark city suits you see Barney in. My complaint about the “slim suit” of today doesn’t just lie in the lapels, it’s that the jacket is also far to short, as well as sometimes the sleeves. They also tend to pull in odd places, and just look sloppy IMO (again some is okay, and I think bends classical style in a fun way, but it seems overly exaggerated in today’s suits). I have a couple odd jackets like this that were inexpensive as it is currently fashionable, it fits my body type very well, and girls seem to like it (no longer an important variable but was at the time of the purchases).
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I can’t agree with the ever man looks better in a suit part. I 100% do not. I have pretty broad shoulders but am skinny as balls. I look like a wet sail in a suit.
http://restorations.bandcamp.com/
Sorry I see what you meant now, I’ve never had a suit tailored to me so that may be a huge factor.
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Tailoring makes a huge difference. OTR sack suits with no tailoring will look horrible, like you are wearing a sack, hence the name. It sounds like you have a natural V shape (which is the ideal IMO, not hitting on you, just speaking from a suit styling perspective), a suit, even OTR, with a good tailor making the proper adjustments would fit you very well.
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If you want to take care of your skin that makes you less of a man?
No, but if you frost the tips of your hair, pop your collar, and go to a tanning booth, hen you get into metrosexual territory.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
See, I don’t think of it so much as metrosexual as extremely vainglorious.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
“Metrosexual” is loosely defined as “someone who spends almost too much time and money on his appearance.” In other words, it’s sort of a synonym for “vain,” except vanity per se does not necessitate the spending of money to achieve an attractive state.
Someone who dresses well and takes care of himself (appearance-wise) is not metrosexual. Someone who goes out of his way to have the most GQ-ish clothes, get tanned, have his hair treated (both on his head AND body), and basically wants every inch of his body to look bronzed and/or stylish, is metrosexual.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I guess I just find the term too derogatory. Sort of how hipsters feel about that word now.
And men, take it from me: take care of the body hair. Legs/arms, OK. Back: yuck. Eyebrows: there should be two. And for God’s sake, manscape.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
…that describes half the frat boys I remember from college. I think the definition needs some refining.
Bob.
when did you go to college? terms change quickly. I was called a hipster for months living in Fishtown. I finally had a lifer tell me in a bar “you yuppies aren’t as bad as everyone says, you kids are ok.” I could only respond by asking her what a yuppie was. According to EVERYONE at the bar it’s defined as this. Younger transplants into the neighborhood who are artsy.
I tried to explain to her what a yuppie actually was but they couldn’t wrap their heads around the difference between a yuppie and a hipster.
http://restorations.bandcamp.com/
While I don’t disagree with you that this is probably in fact true, the fact that it is almost impossible to tell a woman’s age anymore and the existence of fake ID’s means that underage people, both men and women still seem to get into places theyshouldn’taren’t allowed.
Let’s not get normative about this.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I think the drinking age is BS, personally. Old enough to vote and fight in a war/die for your country? Old enough to drink IMO.
When I was in college and not yet drinking age I had friends that were; I honestly just wanted to be able to get into bars just to go out with them. I didn’t even want to drink.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
In the Daily News today, Mark Kram’s cover story about survival tips for the Philly athlete has Bryzgalov’s first name as Sergei. Are you kidding me? Do they not have editors? Or did Homer morph Bryz and Bob into one super Russian goalie?
A Russian weapon of this caliber hasn’t been seen since Ivan Drago
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by jbernat17 on Aug 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
So whatever happened to that Winter Classic announcement? Wasn’t that supposed to be last weekend?
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So “Hurricane” by Dylan or “Like a Hurricane”, which is the better song?
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Rock You Like a Hurricane.
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Sorry, not allowed. I’m a music snob and the hair band era is to me what +/- as a valid stat is to Geoff.
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Meh, sometimes rocking out to some ear candy is just what the doctor ordered. Doesn’t mean I’d go to one of their concerts like several of my former classmates, but YMMV.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
:)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 25, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
“Trying to Reason with Hurricane Season” by Buffett.
Bob.
by The Dark on Aug 25, 2011 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just learned Bethlehem Shoals has signed a contract with Bleacher Report, meaning I know have to read Bleacher Report.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I’m looking at the schedule now and trying to figure out how many tickets to buy for a St. Cloud St. game in Feb.
Well, if you’re ever going to make a road trip I would be glad to help you. I can save you by picking up the tickets at the box office rather than ordering online, like $7 per. And no, I’m not being facetious.
So that Patrick Sharp trade was a real doozy.
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by jbernat17 on Aug 25, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Glad u brought that up cause this was just in a wierd place. Listen I admit I was wrong cause I never liked him. But I don’t think there were many people at the time that thought he would be what he is now.
I can’t say I knew he’d be as good as he became but I did know there was no chance in hell he’s get the playing time here to develop properly. Good for him and good for the team to trade him so he could play. I’ve liked him since that flyers/sens brawl game when he held his own against chris neil.
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So since Lappy is going to be part of a film, someone dug up this clip from his Kings days.
(Warning, it’s a bit gross-ish)
Assistant Masthead Power Person on Down Goes Spezza as ItsAFez66
I'm the Pronger. DUH, WINNING.
Chem and Gus to the restaurant.
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