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Who are you kidding, Geoff? You know that once the season starts, there will be even more articles that get you incensed!

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by btowl1818 on Sep 20, 2011 6:15 AM EDT reply actions  

But at least they won’t all be puff pieces designed to fill space.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Homer and Walker

Does sound pretty cheesy. To his credit, Walker said “it was fine, nothing everyone didn’t know” or something. God bless him, he seems to have done everything he can to rejuvenate his career. Hope it works out for him, but with that salary it may have to be elsewhere.

by Georgia_Flyer on Sep 20, 2011 7:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Is there any way he can fit into the roster? Maybe if a Phantoms player replaces Nodl? I think that out of Walker, Lilja, and Bartulis, Walker is our best bet, while some players like Akeson, Couturier, or Read could be a good swap for Nodl.

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by DannyMcG on Sep 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you want to replace one of our heaviest lifters from last year who also scored at an NHL-ready level and has a next to nothing cap hit for an unknown, so you can play Walker and his 1.7m cap hit for a stay-at-home D man coming off a season of 2 bum legs?

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was basically spitballing, I don’t think Nodl is exactly a key-cog for us though

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by DannyMcG on Sep 20, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you will find a LOT of Nodl support around here. Key Cog? No, he’s a roleplayer first and formost with a good upside.

The other issue is there is no bonus cushion this year. Matt Read and Jason Akeson actually both have a HIGHER cap hit than Nodl by about 50k. And as nice as it is to think of young guys in the system breaking out, Nodl is by this point established as competent in what he’s needed for at a rediculously low price.

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s only key because he’s one of two effective defensive wingers left on the team, and he’s pretty cheap. He’s essentially replaceable, but I don’t think the Flyers have the talent in their system or the cap room to replace him.

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s definitely replaceable, except the Flyers currently have nobody who can replace him.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I demand you backup this statement with stats…. and possibly a graph.

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s replaceable in the sense that he had a negative CorsiRel, an unsustainably high on-ice save percentage, and top-6 teammates.

But the Flyers don’t have anybody who can face first-line opposition, with terrible zone starts, and still finish in the offensive zone over 51% of the time.

Source.

Or read why he deserves to be on the third line because he’s immensely better than Max Talbot.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, he better end up on the third line….

I like Talbot as a move through lines kinda guy with injuries but I don’t want Nodle wasted on the 4th line when Talbot is a perfectly good energy guy.

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

re Talbot

Hear, hear! Talbot is a 4th liner, and should be a good one. They want him to be the next Lappy. I do too. I hope he can.

by Georgia_Flyer on Sep 20, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Nodl gets no respect. This guy did a lot for this team last year, not the stuff that shows up on a score sheet. He went up against some of the best competition last season on the team and held his own. He is young and developing, he could turn into a solid two-way player which is something all teams need. Let Cooter develop he is not ready IMO for the NHL. I think we find this out this week or next.

by Mattx on Sep 20, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that out of Walker, Lilja, and Bartulis, Walker is our best bet

I don’t think there is much evidence to support this to be honest. Basically, it comes down to two issues: which one of Walker, Lilja or Bartulis plays the best on that third like pairing with Meszaros (obviously). Honestly, I don’t think it matters all that much because all three are similar in that they below average players. The Flyers will get pretty much the same thing out of all of them. So, it then comes down to finances. Bartulis would be the best bet because his cap hit is the least (and give the Flyers some more wiggle room) but Lilja signed a 35+ contract so it doesn’t matter if they stash him in ADK because his contract will count against the cap, one way or another. So, like always, the Flyers have backed themselves into a corner and have given themselves leway with their 6th defensemen.

while some players like Akeson, Couturier, or Read could be a good swap for Nodl.
Absolutely not. I know you don’t think so but Nodl is actually a “key-cog” for the Flyers. Not sure why people don’t give Nodl credit because he is very solid defensively. With Richards and Carter gone, Nodl will be relied on quite heavily on the “shut down” third line and the penalty kill. And as 02h32m01s said, Nodl has a dirt cheap cap hit. There is absolutely no reason for him not to be a Flyer all season, especially not at the expense of some unproven AHL guy or Couturier (who MUST spend, at least, the next two years playing in Juniors and the AHL before being considered a serious threat to make the Flyers. Don’t forget, he is 18!). Nodl will be an important part of the Flyers this year, even more so if he is playing with Schenn who will need Nodl and Simmonds to compensate for his inexperience as he grows into being an everyday NHL center AND having the assignment of shutting down the other team’s top line.

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I hear one more thing about Zac Rinaldo making this team I may projectile vomit.

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by A Flyers Phamily on Sep 20, 2011 7:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I could get used to some Sidney Crosby in my life

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

damaged goods

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by Cillo stache on Sep 20, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

so is Gagne, that doesn’t stop people from wanting him back

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

argument:invalid

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by Cillo stache on Sep 20, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I love Gagne; but I think one of the biggest reasons he was able to come back and be effective was the fact that he stayed out so long and let himself heal. He was smart to wait as long as he had to, and that allowed him to have a productive year the next season.

As much as I hate Crosby, it’s still best for the league if he gets better and returns to his old form (or something very close), no matter how long it takes.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Sep 20, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, you lose

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the title so I can close that before I go on mass murdering rampage.

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

anything to win an argument, I’m that objective about winning arguments

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know you are, which is fine, just as long you winning the argument doesn’t cause me to kill people lol

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

CCB made me do it, Judge!! He put a picture of Cindy!! how am I supposed to react? :-)

by Georgia_Flyer on Sep 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Urge to kill….rising….

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by hintzy64 on Sep 20, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

me?

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by Cillo stache on Sep 20, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, definitely not. The Penguins.

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by hintzy64 on Sep 20, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I’m in love with Claude Giroux, that trade gets done in a split second (considering Crosby is completely healthy).

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

im surprised it took you a split second

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling that despite the obviousness of the trade, there are a good number of Flyers fans that would say no.

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah. I’d Take the Crosby and Run

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent film

In a 1970’s way, of course. Slyly funny most of the time, outrageous here and there.

by Georgia_Flyer on Sep 20, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just pure stupidity. Pride goeth before the fall.

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I think there’s some validity in questioning Crosby’s health for the rest of his career and contrasting that with G’s lack of health issues up to this point.

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by KreiderDesigns on Sep 20, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

We were assuming he was fully recovered. If he’s not, then yes, there’s a question. But if he’s healthy, all thing being equal, you do the deal, yes?

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think everyone does that deal…. and then prays that as good as Giroux is he doesn’t become the next Forsberg (only better and more dominant).

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god, not you with the “all things being equal” crap.

Stupidity rubs off?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except, in this case, it actually sort of works. Bite me, Geoff. I went to war with that ahole all day yesterday; you should have been there.

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

OOoooo did I miss something on the FlyBy Monday when I was trying to pre-rank my fantasy team?

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, it was on TGP. A political thread on a comment Rollins made.

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh baseball….

I completely blame the stat-heads here that Moneyball is probably going to be the first movie I’ve seen in the theater this year.

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s going to be fantastic. And disappointing. All at the same time.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m excited for it, and not enough of a stat-guy yet to feel let down, I’m hoping.

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably for the best. What I am hearing is that the stats stuff was really toned down, but really, how exciting would a movie about spreadsheets be? lol

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

For those of you who were wondering, yes, I do look a lot like Brad Pitt.

by Eric T. on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What a coincidence… I look nothing like Jonah Hill.

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m really, really hoping Kevin Youkilis makes an appearance.

The movie doesn’t have to be about spreadsheets, but they can easily show the arguments between the stat geeks and the scouts.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, agreed. Hopefully, Hollywood hasn’t messed it up too much.

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

:)

I am rarely on TGP, tending to read in RSS instead.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You would have loved being in that whole thread yesterday, though. Just your kind of fight.

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, the ignorance being shown would probably have taken the fun out of it for me.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the guy was moving the goalposts constantly, true, but all in all, at the very least it was civil.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s true. As TGP said on twitter last night, he was at once appalled and pround.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

proud*

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which, I want this to be a meme: http://www.thegoodphight.com/2011/9/19/2435945/in-an-interview-in-the-october-issue-of-philadelphia-magazine-rollins#77822514

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which part? The thread isn’t loading at your jump for me because my computer suuuuuux. The first green comment?

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it was one that I find personally hilarious but someone wasn’t green:
"
You don’t understand taxes.
You don’t understand taxes.
You don’t understand taxes.
You don’t understand taxes.
You don’t understand taxes.
You don’t understand taxes.
You don’t understand taxes.
You don’t understand taxes."

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by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Cormican? Hilarious. Yeah, that should be a meme.

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by doubleh on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad I avoided that circle jerk

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Giroux but I make that trade:)

by Mattx on Sep 20, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

LETS GO FLYERS

finally

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by Cillo stache on Sep 20, 2011 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m with you, I’m unnaturally excited for pre-season hockey. This offseason felt way too long.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Sep 20, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

With all the changes made this past offseason, I don’t think I’ve ever been more excited for a Flyers season in my life. GOOSEBUMPS!

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by DannyMcG on Sep 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

What’s funny is that I am actually the opposite. I have been dreading the new season.

I think what excites people is that the Flyers are such an unproven entity right now. Because the fans don’t know what this new team can do, they fantasize and get excited that, for pretty illogical reasons, this team NOW has what it takes to win the Cup. I don’t know if it is just me but I’m erring on the side of caution.

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you in dreading the potential fail of the “new” Flyers. But just so damn hungry for some hockey.

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by hintzy64 on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

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by KreiderDesigns on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just along for the ride last year. I was so excited last year and really thought we were bound for at least a deep playoff run. After everything that happened this offseason, I’m just going to enjoy the ride this year — for better or worse. Not getting too up, not getting too down.

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

along for the ride this year****

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I tried that approach last year, and my fanhood was constantly called into question.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you have done that last year though?

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

We weren’t the best team in the league/had set an unsustainable early pace.

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by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

When the team was at the top of the NHL, I was not excited. When the team was losing in February and March, I was not worried.

A few people thought that proved my lack of fan-dom.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t agree with them, but I also don’t understand you.

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meaning you don’t understand me, or you don’t understand what I just said?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you said. I don’t get you sometimes, haha.

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, you are not alone.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The mark of true genius is to be misunderstood.

by mtitanic on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s also the mark of a jackass.

You sir are a gentleman of four outs!

by DLJr on Sep 20, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you could join us Don.

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to teach this morning.

You sir are a gentleman of four outs!

by DLJr on Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did that go?

(I had to swap teachers in 3 online classes this morning and then re-write all the notes sections on their classes… fun times.)

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by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it’s typically a 2 day class, but I got it down to 6 hours, so that was a win for me. I hate teaching at my company though, teaching college students was far easier and more fun.

You sir are a gentleman of four outs!

by DLJr on Sep 20, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stoicism and fandom are difficult to hold simultaneously. A worthwhile project, with a payoff throughout life. Is Stoicism part of your nature or only with great effort achieved?

by flyersfaninchicago on Sep 20, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s being stoic, I think he’s being rational.

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, well, incompatible with fandom, then.

by flyersfaninchicago on Sep 20, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that a lot. But I avoid the lows and appreciate the highs.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

manic without the depressive. well done. get a patent.

by flyersfaninchicago on Sep 21, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason, saying “winning playoff series is disproportionately luck-based” makes people think you don’t get the same enjoyment about the Flyers winning a playoff series.

In other words: who thinks about Corsi during a game unless they are forced to?

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me :) Because I want to repeat how terrible O`Donnell was, and how awesome Richards was.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

removing the fantasy of cup contention (which we were the favorites for the Finals for what? 3/4ths of last season?)

Seeing something you’ve never seen before is always exciting and this is the biggest shakeup I can think of in the Flyers in recent history…. probably since the Forsberg trade.

My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.

by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is the game televised tonight? Feeling lazy, don’t want to go look it up

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

TCN, NHL Network out of the area.

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent! The wife will be home late tonight, so I can goof off and do whatever I want. I was going to play video games, but maybe I’ll watch the game instead.

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by hintzy64 on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s listed as being on the NHLN schedule, and I’d assume there won’t be a local blackout unless it’s also on TCN.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Sep 20, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, Travis beat me to it.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Sep 20, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well we knew Homer got fleeced by Yzerman on that trade, but I’m still surprised that he admitted it that bluntly. That definitely isn’t going to win over any of his critics.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Sep 20, 2011 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly why I drew attention to it.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Homer isn’t going to win over any of his critics; Homer knows this; Homer doesn’t care.
Furthermore, he has one or two transactions to make in the next three weeks likely to draw even more criticism.

by mtitanic on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He came close to winning me over last year.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday, Bob!

Bob turns 23 today and in honor of the occasion, the following is a list of things Bob plans to do today:
10. Steak and dumplings – all day long!
9. Read “The Brothers Karamazov” in English. Oh, better make that “Green Eggs and Ham”.
8. Play Angry Birds. Death to the Pigs!
7. Practice the two most important responses to Philly media:
“I will not risk answering your question.”
“Bob”.
6. Drive everyone crazy with that Russian Techno music.
5. Buy clothes for Pinocchio (er, Panotch) to critique.
4. Take a spin in his Lexus on those nice Jersey roads.
3. Teach Brzy the fine art of skipping rope. Watch him break his ankle and laugh.
2. Enjoy playing hockey again in the Orange & Black.
And the number one thing Bob will do today is:
Meet Olga in Toronto…oh, that was last year
Bring Olga along to Toronto!
Have a great birthday and blow them Leafs away!

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by BHMB on Sep 20, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

As per Dave Isaac, no Briere, Bryz or Leighton in Toronto tonight.

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Blew through MSP last night. Great work by everyone. Hopefully, my dad reads his, too, so I can stop explaining about why I talk about ESS%, zone starts, and competition.

But most importantly, I now know where Eric played his college ultimate.

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I…erm…hmm…

I still don’t have my MSP (freaking post office), so I don’t know what it says, but I didn’t expect it to mention that.

by Eric T. on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last name. LinkedIn.

Minor bit of stalking because I felt like knowing?

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by Snevik on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

*adds Eric on LinkedIn*

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

People actually use LinkedIn?

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

People make accounts to feel included and then never really do anything.

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by Chemistry66 on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it’s like twitter?

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by DLJr on Sep 20, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch, Don. I’m in mourning.

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by Chemistry66 on Sep 20, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

shrugs

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by DLJr on Sep 20, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found my current job on LinkedIn and at least a half-dozen times recruiters have seen my profile and contacted me to ask if I’m interested in an open position.

I dunno if it’s useful in all fields, but it is in the tech world.

by Eric T. on Sep 20, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a great site, particularly for networking for particular jobs in particular fields.

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by DLJr on Sep 20, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fate of the computer that decided to make that trade...

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by hintzy64 on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Flyers @ Leafs on NHL Network tonight?

Yo fellas,

Can anyone confirm that the Flyers/Leafs pre-season game tonight will be televised on the NHL Network?

According the NHL website, NHL Network is airing it. However, I wanted to check if anyone knew for sure; if any friendly BSH visitors who are home today with little to do could confirm whether or not their digital cable box says “NHL Hockey: Philadelphia Flyers at Toronto Maple Leafs” at 7pm tonight.

I hope it’s on… I need an ice hockey fix, STAT.

by jMm8_ on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

If you look upthread a little bit, it was mentioned. I don’t have NHLN so I can’t check, but others were talking about it. Unless you’ll be affected by blackouts. It’s also on Comcast Network.

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by LeepinLizardz on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s definitely on TCN locally and NHLN nationally.

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by Travis Hughes on Sep 20, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, guys

sweet, thanks Trav and LeepinLIzardz. I should have read the thread first, but I’m lazy.

I’m not sure if the channel I have is the NHL Network or another NHL channel, but I assume it’s NHL Network. It’s channel #579 on Verizon Fios, and they’ve been airing NHL playoff replays all summer, and usually show a ton of “NHL on the Fly” in season).

I’m really pumped to watch this pre-season game tonight, and that’s pretty pathetic. The Phillies have it all wrapped up until the postseason starts so they’re a snore to watch for the time being; the Eagles won’t be able to entertain me until Sunday; and my heavy use of EA’s new NHL 2012 has me craving ice hockey like a damned junky.

Let’s go Flyers.

by jMm8_ on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yay! I’ll have something else to watch tonight so I don’t have to see the Phillies play all meh and lose to the Nationals!

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by LeepinLizardz on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Just bought NHL Center Ice

Can anyone confirm if it’s in HD on Time Warner Cable???

Granted, I’d buy it if it were in black and white, but I’d be much happier with HD.

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by Pardini36 on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Availability of HD games and dual-feeds varies by market

per http://www.indemand.com/sports/nhl/

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea that’s from the NHL. On Comcast every game is SD, I’m wondering if TW is different.

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by Pardini36 on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

that looks like a negative ghostrider. I’m looking at California’s TW and their center ice is SD

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, Time Warner makes Comcast look like first class on the concorde.

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by Pardini36 on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could be wrong. Some games might be broadcast in HD< it just doesnt say which ones are

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

HD/SD varies by market and by feed provider

Center Ice gets feeds from each team. Some teams provide both SD & HD each game. Sometimes you get only SD. Comcast Philly almost NEVER provides an HD feed for Center Ice. Not so for Comcast in San Jose for example, where there’s usually an HD feed. At least, I find this to be true for my DirecTV service.

YMMV and check local listings :-)

by Georgia_Flyer on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you in Georgia? I’m in charlotte so I’d imagine we’d have similar service.

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by Pardini36 on Sep 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Am

North Gwinnett County, 35 miles NE of Atlanta. 4 hours or so down 85 from you.

by Georgia_Flyer on Sep 20, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and...

Our service might isn’t necessarily similar, between DirecTV and Time-Warner cable. Packages could be totally different. Perhaps some of the regional sports networks, like the Fox Sports franchises.

by Georgia_Flyer on Sep 20, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Wellwood, Brayden Schenn, Blake Kessel….what is it with the Flyers and the younger brothers of former and current Toronto Maple Leaf players?

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by Justin F. on Sep 20, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Homer has a fetish?

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by Chemistry66 on Sep 20, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rest in peace, Bobrovsky fishie.

March 2011-September 2011

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by Chemistry66 on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

:(

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by Pardini36 on Sep 20, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

My crab, Clawed Giroux died too. ((hugs))

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by LeepinLizardz on Sep 20, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You gals need to stop naming our pets after Flyers’ players. It’s a bad omen! lol

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by Mitchell Green on Sep 20, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of my goldfish growing up until roughly 7th or 8th grade were named for Flyers.

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by hintzy64 on Sep 20, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no :(

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by DragonGirl0583 on Sep 20, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just watched the Goon trailer. I’m excited

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 20, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Holmgren's "not knowing"

What’s troublesome to me is that this is the second player in the organization that in the last few days Holmgren’s gone on the record as admitting he nothing about.

A few days ago he said he didn’t know anything about a college UFA the team had signed in May who looked impressive in the rookie camp, …and I thought that was troubling.

Now, we have a veteran player with a substantial NHL history, and multimillion dollar contract that Holmgren traded for almost a year and a half ago, …and Holmgren’s telling him he doesn’t know anything about him…

I’m sorry, but imho there shouldn’t be a player in the organization that the General Manager doesn’t know EVERYTHING about.

It reminds me of some the statements Clarkie was making shortly before he resigned, …it’s just not right.

by Andydohert on Sep 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Homer didn’t trade for him per say, he let Yzerman & Gagne’s agent dictate the terms of the trade. Per John Boruk last year:

Still, Gagne wanted some control over the situation and he, along with his agent Bob Sauve, got involved to find a trade that would be in their best interest. (In case you’re wondering, the Lightning actually facilitated this deal.)
It’s stupid for Homer to admit that he knew nothing about him, but it’s probably the truth. By the time the Gagne trade went down, Homer didn’t have a lot of options left to get Gagne shipped out.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Sep 20, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet people wanted to rationalize the trade by saying it was Gagne’s lack of value and Homer got what he could.

Except Yzerman got what he wanted.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 20, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Homer's right with what he said about Walker...

But still…

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU SAY THAT ON RECORD?

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by Chemistry66 on Sep 20, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

He said that because (as you noted) he’s right, and it’s fairly obvious. I see it as a just small matter of semantics.

by mtitanic on Sep 20, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I was reading USA Today's Hockey Overview ...

and some person with the last name Allen thinks we’ll finish 7th in the east. Caps will take it, and Pens 6th.

We weren’t the favorite becase of all the ‘changes’, Their stroyline read: Flyers fix goalie problem, then sign Jaromir Jagr.

Deceptively Delicious...

by sophiejo on Sep 20, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t put that out of the question. Then again I think other than the Southeast theres a lot of shakeup in the east right now.

Buffalo could move up a lot and challenege both Montreal and Boston for the division, and those 3 teams could easily be in the top 8.

Caps will take the south almost certainly, they had a great offseason I think. Tampa Bay is almost a lock for the playoffs as well. Carolina might even challenge for real this year.

Then theres our division, where even with injuries to half their stars the Penguins find a way to win, everyone suddenly thinking the Rangers can compete, Us looking vulnerable, and New Jersey not having imploded again yet…..

The East is a lot less of a lock for everyone but the Caps this year.

My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.

by 02h32m01s on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, the prediction isn’t unreasonable. But the narrative is horrible.

by Eric T. on Sep 20, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, my spelling is awesome today. I’m so over hearing about the Rangers winning this yr. I even know that Staal has a concussion via his brothers possibly dirty hit.

Deceptively Delicious...

by sophiejo on Sep 20, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  


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