Wednesday Morning Fly By: We Can Go Back to Ignoring Pressing Social Issues Again, Thanks for Your Patience
by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- A poignant letter from a PD reader asking an NHL player to come out as a homosexual is the only reason this whole debacle is being mentioned: [Puck Daddy]
- Matt Read is probably going to make the team. He deserves it: [Daily News] [The Fourth Period]
- James van Riemsdyk and Andreas Nodl sat out practice with injuries: [Frequent Flyers]
- That's bad because the Flyers need JVR and Giroux to produce more this year: [NHL.com]
- But NHL.com thinks Andreas Nodl will hit waivers soon. This is depressing: [NHL.com]
- Scott Hartnell was cleared to play again after his elevated heart rate scare: [Philly Sports Daily]
- An attempt at reading the CBA to answer Eric's question regarding the timing of the Flyers placing Ian Laperriere on LTIR: [The Hockey Guys]
- Believe it or not, last year the Flyers won 38 of 44 games when leading after two. Only once did they lose in regulation: [NHL.com]
- Practice notices from the Phantoms' training camp: [Phantoms Forum]
- A good look at Patrick Johnson, son of 1980 Gold Medalist Mark Johnson, getting a big opportunity to make the Phantoms. He centered Eric Wellwood and Stefan Legein in practice the other day: [PostStar.com]
- Hey, the Kings think they're ready to join the NHL's elite now that they have Mike Richards and Simon Gagne: [NHL.com]
- The Red Wings utilize a strategy to protect their aging defensemen, something the Capitals may want to do with Mike Green: [Japers' Rink]
- Winning two Vezinas has historically been a ticket to the Hall of Fame. But how does that effect Tim Thomas? [Brodeur is a Fraud]
- Projecting how many goals Steven Stamkos will have this season: [Driving Play]
- Save percentages have been steadily going up for goaltenders every year since the lockout. What's going on? [The Copper & Blue]
- Interesting story with the Sharks banning advertising on t-shirts, and a season-ticket holder fighting back: [Puck Daddy]
- Teams are attempting to draft players for possession - Corsi - but they have to use scouts to do it. That's a tricky process: [Hockey Prospectus]
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I knew it was only a matter of to much heart with Scott Hartnell. Hell you can’t even spell Hartnell without Hart!
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
An invitation ...
Hey, I hear there’s gonna be a Winter Classic in Philly and HBO has started filming for their 24/7 series. They probably need some ideas for the show. What better thing to do on another rainy day but come up with some that we Flyer fans would love to see. I’ll start:
- Giroux showing us how to make the perfect grilled cheese
- Bob showing Olga around Philadelphia
- Bryz attempting to do Bob’s pre-game jump rope routine
Okay, what would you like to see featured on 24/7?
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
24/7
-Hartnell randomly falling down outside of the rink
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by Matt 'Puckhead' on Sep 28, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Giroux making his own girlled cheese? Psh. We need to meet his chef.
Chris Pronger: Now the Flyers really do have a Captain Elbows. #Winning
Of the sound mind that Giroux moved out because Briere burnt too many grilled cheeses.
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Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun
Definition: Bad-assery on skates
24/7
-and the great Tortolini being the huge dick we all know he really is
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by Matt 'Puckhead' on Sep 28, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Zac Rinaldo. I wana see what (wonderful, talented and slightly controlled) crazy does in its spare time.
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Giving up isn't an option
by Cillo stache on Sep 28, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I have just discovered Ilya Bryzgalov’s Twitter, and am utterly floored. If you would like for me to write a post about each of his tweets every time one goes live, please say “da” below.
Danke.
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Da
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Sep 28, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
da
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Sep 28, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
“Reemer wants to bite the crocodile off my shirt.”
"You should send him an edible arrangement of chocolate strawberries...If I were the disciplinarian, that would work for me."
by LeepinLizardz on Sep 28, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, really.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Sep 28, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
So many das, so few nyets. This is exciting.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Sep 28, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’s probably just ignoring your post and hoping it will go away.
Chris Pronger: Now the Flyers really do have a Captain Elbows. #Winning
Of the sound mind that Giroux moved out because Briere burnt too many grilled cheeses.
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by Chemistry66 on Sep 28, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t mind seeing stupid crap a hockey player writes on occasion because they are a person of slight interest to me. What I don’t care about is who tweets you or who you tweet, etc. And by you I mean any member of this blog, not you specifically.
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
Da, since I usually check this site at work and Twitter is blocked here.
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by Lindbergh 31 on Sep 28, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep no surprises with Hartnell
Elevated heart rate is very often found to be benign, particularly when it hasn’t noticeably causes symptoms beyond its existence. I guess the ECG and echocardiogram revealed no underlying pathology so we’re all good.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Sep 28, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions
the HBO winter classic series has a lot of potential. I’m hoping it’s a mix of Flyers history and how that history affects every season, with this one being no exception, despite the off-season moves. Then you go to each Flyers new acquisition, and how they perceive those expectations, and their initial reactions to the city. Look for Breezy to have a lot of face time, because he’s seen as the missing missing piece, in addition to being new
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 28, 2011 8:23 AM EDT reply actions
At least it’s not ESPN running it. They would do a feature on Santa Clause, batteries at JD Drew, then interview the Rangers about how the fans are “terrible people” (thanks Brandon Jacobs) and how the city is “a dump” (thanks NYG).
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But if it was on ESPN, I would be able to get it on my TV :(
"You should send him an edible arrangement of chocolate strawberries...If I were the disciplinarian, that would work for me."
by LeepinLizardz on Sep 28, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
torrents
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 28, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
No ESPN? Is that so bad? I don;t even look there for football anymore.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
by Mike B on D on Sep 28, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I have ESPN, but no HBO. But if someone discovers a (preferably free, probably illegal) way to view this show once it starts…
"You should send him an edible arrangement of chocolate strawberries...If I were the disciplinarian, that would work for me."
by LeepinLizardz on Sep 28, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither free nor illegal:
The series lasts less than a month, right? You could sign up for HBO in December and cancel at the end of the month. HBO is kinda ridiculously expensive, but in one month you could watch the whole series, DVR a bunch of movies (if you have a DVR), and probably feel like it was worthwhile.
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DVR is an additional cost to keep, fyi
But yeah, Eric has a good plan. Or, subsequently you could find another buddy or 2 to split the HBO. you get their HBO on the go too, which allows you to stream their television to your computer
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 28, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This was my plan. Each time I get HBO, I end up hating it after a month anyway. Too much money not a worthwhile product.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
The Japers’ Rink article is most excellent. If I was a member there I would have rec’d it. It makes me wonder what tactics, if any, Lavvy uses regarding the defensive pairing’s responsibilities and whether he shelters any of them in a similar way. Idea for a new post, Geoff?
Well, I do steal a handful of ideas from Japers each year. That seems like a good one.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought the same thing. This seems like an idea that is quite applicable to the Flyers. I’d like to see the Flyers incorporate a similar system for when Pronger and Kimmo are retrieving dump ins as a way of saving them from hits that will wear them down throughout the course of the season.
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by Mitchell Green on Sep 28, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I really want a Coburn Jersey…
But the last time I bought the Jersey of the longest term Flyer, he got traded to Tampa….
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Thanks for the compliment (and the link, Geoff). Sorry I’m late to the party, but I had a busy day yesterday.
We also discussed whether Babcock and the team Canada coaches had a particular strategy in the Olympics. I doubt they did, since everyone was elite (though Dan Boyle may have needed protection), but it’s an interesting question.
Who do you think PHI would want to protect? Pronger isn’t very mobile, and at his age I doubt they’d want to make him a target. What would you expect a protection scheme to look like?
Obviously, this is all speculation.
Down Goes Brown
Oh goodness….
everyone should immediatly go and watch the new DGB. I am glad almost my entire office is out at a meeting and not around to hear me laughing.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
it is absolutely amazing video so funny yet so sad because it is probably true
here is the link to make life easier http://www.downgoesbrown.com/
That just made my day.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
by Mike B on D on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Man when he started laughing and said “I bet it was Matt Cooke… oh yeah! It was Matt Cooke! What an A**Hole!” I seriously lost it.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
hahah yeah… it was like he wasn’t even surprised… and then they cut to Cooke just standing there with that “I didn’t do anything wrong” expression.
That is such a hilarious video. I lost it through most of it, but at the end when he said “Well it’s ok since Savard will be ok and Cooke won’t do that again” is so funny but probably true.
I am very happy with the job Shannahan is doing so far on the suspensions, and I like the explanations as well, so we actually know that there’s thought of it, and the suspension wheel has hopefully been burned.
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by Lindbergh 31 on Sep 28, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what to make of that Sharks “t-shirt advertising” article. I mean, if the guy loves the team, he should go to the games, and it makes sense that fans should be able to wear whatever they want. But if he and his family all wear those shirts to every game for years, then it’s pretty obvious he’s trying to get some advertising, he’s not just there for the game. But it sure isn’t free advertising, those seats aren’t cheap. Still a lot cheaper than the paid advertising he had before and ditched. I dunno. If they’ve got two people behind each bench (pretty strategic selection by “his daughters’ request”) and they wear the shirts to every game, I really question whether he honestly just loves the team and is there to watch. Not questioning if he’s a fan, but it really seems like he’s trying pretty hard for product placement on top of any enjoyment from watching the game. It’s pretty obnoxious, in my opinion, but I guess he’s got a right to it.
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Yeah, I’m not sure what to think. The team can’t exactly ban advertising on t-shirts (any shirt that says GAP or A&F or Nike or SDSU etc. could be advertising) but the guy is definitely benefiting financially from his wardrobe but he has been doing it for years without a problem but he did just decide to stop paying $70,000 to the Sharks but…
Basically, there has to be a middle ground.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It does a little, but four people wearing those shirts to every game for a decade sounds pretty obnoxious, too. He’s clearly not just in it for the hockey. Both sides are trying to get their money. That’s what this is all about in the end.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Right, anything with a corporate logo on it could be advertising. That’s a pretty broad net to cast. Maybe he should just tone it down a bit and only wear his shirts sometimes. If he really loves watching the games, it shouldn’t make a difference to him if he occasionally wears something else.
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The sharks should be forced to invest in technology to blur out the logo like they do on reality TV a dress code seems a little harsh.
Well the reality shows are also not live like the game is. I doubt that would even be possible to blur on the fly.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Sep 28, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Some live TV is already broadcast with a slight delay to allow for time to bleep things, or avoid another “wardrobe malfunction”, so I imagine it could be done there. The pixelate filter in GIMP, which is essentially all you need, is pretty fast. Still, it’d be applying it on the fly to ~30 frames per second, so maybe you’re right.
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"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I take that back. In the NCAA tournament, they digitally add advertisements to the floor. A year or two ago, Comcast started adding advertisements on the netting behind the nets in hockey games. And football broadcasts add the line of scrimmage and 1st down lines. So it can definitely be done.
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They also already have the game on a delay. I was on the air on 94WYSP for a year (who is owned by CBS which also own 610WIP) and did a lot of production work for both stations. I got to learn all about the delays. NOTHING is live anymore. Not even close. If you watch the game & listen to the radio, they are off by as much as 20-30 seconds sometimes. TV is the same way. Any time you hear or see something you’re not supposed to on air, chances are somebody just wasn’t doing their job. (pee breaks being a common cause)
We would only take calls during songs & commercial breaks. After the call, we would edit out all the “uhhhs” and ummmms" etc. and then replay it during the next “live” break.
The team can simply revoke their tickets for any reason they deem necessary, or at least in most cases I’m familiar with. I don’t know why they are trying to ban the advertisements when they can send a pretty simple and clear message by revoking their season tickets if the ticket holder refuses to confirm to their wishes about the advertising he is wearing.
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
Yeah, that’s true, even though it’s pretty ridiculous.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a slippery slope. What’s next, forcing fans during the playoffs to wear those horrible, free tshirts with juvenile slogans on front and 20 sponsor logos on the back?
If the guy was covering a sponsor’s ad with his ad or being disruptive, that’s one thing. Or if the club were selling rights to be the Official Bail Bondsman of the Sharks. But the guy paid for his tickets, among the most expensive in the house. The sales team had no problem taking his money for sponsorship, even though a college marketing student could tell you the market for bail bonds isn’t coming to hockey games. If its the TV exposure they’re worried about, they can digitally superimpose an ad over the guy for a lot less than this lawsuit will cost them—-and generate revenue while they’re at it. Four people out of 20,000…get some perspective.
I can’t believe Snider/Luukko haven’t tried this yet. Watch out for my Verizon/DishTV tshirt coming to a Flyers game…on nights I don’t wear my LA Kings shirt.
In most cases a team can take your tickets for any reason they want, they’re considered revocable licenses. So their right is there to remove you from games, or take your season tickets away at any time for any reason, at least in most cases I’m aware of; I believe the specifics can be found on the ticket themselves for each team. I’m not sure if the guys has a strong case here, fair or not.
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
Yeah, I agree that it doesn’t sound like much of a legal basis. I think his “Constitutional Lawyer” (lol) is advising him that the publicity a lawsuit generates will be worth much more than the cost of the lawsuit.
With that being said, I also don’t think this is particularly fair. But right are pretty limited when you’re going to someone else’s venue and being asked to follow their rules.
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"Constitutional Lawyer" (lol)
I was thinking the same thing.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
…please tell me you didn’t just say “constitutional Lawyer.”
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Don’t blame me; it came from the article:
“My constitutional attorney says we have a legal right to wear the shirts at the game,” Stanley told us on Monday.
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Right. I mean, there’s definitely a problem with the Sharks’ policy (the city ownership creates a fairly simple tangle) but… he’s hardly a favorite to win.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I may be remembering this wrong, but aren’t Constitutionals the wacko’s that believe that Modern Law and Taxes don’t apply to them and they only have to obey a mix of the constitution and 15th century English Barrister Law?
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Ah. I simply took that remark to mean he’s a lawyer who specializes in Constitutional Law.
I’ve never heard of Constitutionalists, and it sounds like I don’t want to.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It just has that kind of stink on it. It seems like if it was someone that specialized in constitutional law he would just say attorney.
I have a lawyer friend that often posts anything relevant that comes up from the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is why I know about this.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Does the 14th Amendment equal protection clause come into play here (given that there is a city/state entity involved)? Or can the Sharks argue that there are different degrees of advertising and that they can allow one person to wear a Google t-shirt in a way that doesn’t draw attention while disallowing another from wearing clothing that might as well be a billboard?
by flyersfaninchicago on Sep 28, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m betting it stays strictly in 1st Amendment law, with public forum/time, place, manner restrictions.
But that’s if it even gets there. The Court would have to deem the city’s ownership as state action, which… could go any way. If it’s deemed private action (the team, not the city), it’ll just be what Don says – a revocable license.
That’s why the guy is focusing on the complete advertising ban, and the team should be focusing on just this guy.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems like there would definitely be something about it in the fine print on the back of the ticket.
I grew up in a ski town and even at like 10 I knew there was fine print on the ski tickets that if I fell to my death from a chairlift then my purchase of the ticket relived the Mountain of any blame.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Right, but I’m sure you didn’t know that on the back of the ticket it said “We can take your ticket away from you for any reason, at any time.”
Everyone knows you can be asked to leave places. People don’t know that they can take your money and refuse to accept the ticket they gave you.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, I knew that too…
Maybe its a Ski Town thing.
Like I saw people growing up get all uppity with Ski Patrol or the people that get you onto the lifts and have their passes taken away.
too bad, so sad.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Ah. Well then. Touche.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think in general we would be living in a society now that leads us to believe any small print will screw us.
Facebook terms of use being the most glaring example of “hoping no one ever reads this.”
How much longer till you find out about the Bar results Geoff?
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Yeah, people should know everything has small print that will screw us. But most people still don’t think it screws them to the degree it can.
Two-three weeks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve come to the point where I’ve accepted my limited amount of rights in these cases, fair or unfair. But this definitely is not good publicity for the team, however, it’s not good publicity because I don’t think many people know that a team can just take away a person’s rights to their ticket at any point for any reason. If more people were aware, this would be more, “well yeah, this is kind of par for the course, the course just sucks.”
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
Exactly. That was a difficult case to read in law school.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
No lawyer by any means, I just have a question. Does it make any difference that the Sharks don’t own the arena? The city of San Jose owns it so does that come into the picture or does it not make a difference?
It does matter in the sense that it could be seen as government action. Since the Constitution protects citizens from government action, but not private actors, that would be key.
In other words, it’s why candidiates for office are able to kick opponents out of rallies based on their speech or clothing. It’s not violating free speech since they aren’t government actors.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, candidates*
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So then that could spark some kind of state or city action. In other words could that mean that the state or city could step in. Or could that also mean that they could be involved in leagal action.
Well, the city is likely going to be named as a co-defendant, but what it means is that the guy will argue that the Sharks’ policy violates his Constitutional right to freedom of speech and/or expression.
If the arena was owned by the Sharks, he wouldn’t have a Constitutional right to wear that shirt in the arena. So it’s not so much that he’s going to sue the city – though he likely will – it’s that he’s going to use the city’s ownership of the arena to show that the Sharks cannot ban all speech/expression.
It’ll get a lot more complicated than that, but that’s where he’s going with it.
Tie the city in as owners, thus showing government involvement, thus invoking the protection of the First Amendment, which wouldn’t otherwise be present absent the city’s ownership.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he will have a hard time with that argument, since the Sharks are, in essence, renting out the building for a private event, and should be able to permit or bar whomsoever they choose from attending said event. If the government were putting on the event, it would be a stronger case.
Bob.
I agree.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Official Bail Bondsman of the Sharks
This has a lot of potential for hilarity.
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NHL.com thinks Rinaldo stays on the team? Wow.
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At this point its down to what? Rinaldo, Read, Couturier, and Harry Z for 2 spots?
I think Rinaldo and Read are the front runners.
Wait… maybe 1 spot.
Shelly suspended still counts against our roster, yes?
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I think he definitely starts the year up (Shelley is suspended, afterall). Then… I hope he doesn’t stay.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
So how do you fill the roster, Shelley back in the lineup? I’d take Rinaldo over Shelley…
by OrangeNblacK on Sep 28, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d take Rinaldo over Shelley too, but I fear it would come down to Rinaldo or Nodl and not Rinaldo or Shelley.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
In which case Nodl gets the 4th line job, obviously, right? Its one thing to dress a heavyweight to say he’s policing, its another to dress a guy who is your (Hartnell, Simmonds, Coburn, ?Talbot?) 4th or 5th best fighter only to call him your enforser because he doesn’t do much else (as of right now). G-JVR-68, 48-19-Voracek, Schenn-Talbot-Simmonds, Betts-Nodl-?
Am I missing anyone? Read in Talbot’s spot and Talbot bumps down? So it’s essentially Read v. Rinaldo v. Nodl for 2 spots? Talbot v. Nodl v. Read to play with Simmonds and Schenn with the loser playing the foruth line?
by OrangeNblacK on Sep 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Read takes Talbot’s spot, who bumps down to fourth line. But that’s me.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
so Betts-Nodl-Talbot for the 4th line?
You think the Flyers office would go for something that, dare I say, sensible?
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I’d rather Nodl – Schenn – Simmonds against the better teams (BOS, VAN, & LA), with Betts – Nodl – Talbot against the weaker (OTT & NJ) during the first five games. If Read shows he can hang, do that until he shows he can’t.
But it’s much more likely when Shelley returns, Nodl and Read fight for a spot. Which is irritating.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m gonna watch the Boston game with Boston fans. If they have bad weak-ass unbalanced lines that night and we get stomped I am going to be pissed.
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Someone was saying that in ADK (or maybe at Bemidji State), Read was used in defensive situations and on the PK and has shown that he is decently responsible defensively.
Now, I don’t know how true that is or what it’s based on but has Read been used defensively or on the PK at all during the preseason?
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by Mitchell Green on Sep 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He has been used that way in the preseason, but Nodl was used on the first line and on the PP in the preseason.
I’m not convinced yet.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Its one of the reasons I feel the team is really much more pro-Nodl than the media.
Why give Nodl those looks unless your contemplating putting him in the top 6 or top 9?
Maybe not seriously contemplating, but seems unlikely they give those looks to someone thats either 4th line or down on the Phantoms.
Also, whats the waiver excemption on Nodl after last year? If this team F’d up, sent him down and he got picked up by another team I would be REALLY PISSED.
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He’s waiver eligible: http://bit.ly/l4pxDb
And I agree the team like shim more than the media, but that doesn’t mean they like him over Read, or that they like him over having Shelley/Rinaldo on the bench.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was 29 other teams and could pick up Nodl for 422,500 I would do so in a cold second.
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Absolutely. But on the way down, he’d be full-price. I’d still grab him, but I’m a tad biased. haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
So who would you have Centering your Andreas Nodl, Matt Calvert line?
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Mike Richards, duh.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, trust me Geoff, I’m with you. Read hasn’t proven enough to me to be a lock for the team like the media and some people seem to think.
If it’s between Read and Nodl, I’ll go Nodl all day.
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by Mitchell Green on Sep 28, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s won the battle for the final roster spot outright (over Sestito, Rinaldo, Couturier, and the rest), the question is whether Laviolette is smart enough to dress him and Nodl, while sitting Shelley.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt it.
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by Mitchell Green on Sep 28, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if I like this idea what do you think? Drop Hartnell to the third line try read in his spot?
I’d rather drop Voracek, since he might actually be able to play defense, but it all depends on how you want your lines.
Those who trust Betts-Talbot-Nodl to take on the Sedin/Bergeron/Zajac/Ovechkin lines would probably want three scoring lines. I don’t trust them, so I want Simmonds with Nodl and Schenn when playing those teams (to face Kesler/Krejci/Parise/Semin).
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I don’t trust Betts-talbot-Nodl either. My thinking was that Read is going to make the team so I don’t really want him on that third line but I guess we will probably be seeing it. I was thinking if he is here which I don’t think is a bad thing (maybe) why not move Hartnell to the 3rd line to solidify it. I hear you on Voracek but I think he is a top 6 player who has defensive ability but needs to play on the top 6. At least with Hartnell on the 3rd line that gives us expirience and a big body.
Yeah. I just want that third line to play a lot of defense, something I trust Nodl to do better than Voracek, who I trust more than Hartnell.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe the same. My only thing was: What would you rather Hartnell or Read on the 3rd line. At this point as far as the team goes I don’t see Voracek on the 3rd. I am not sure how they feel with Nodl but it does not sound like he is high on their list.
So I guess what I am saying is would you rather have Hartnell or Read on the 3rd line.
Read, actually. That’s how little I trust Hartnell. haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
ok. Well that looks like what it will be, I just prefer Hartnell cause of his expirience but I don’t think Read would be horrible in that role. I don’t know if Read will be able to hold up in that role for a whole season. He is on the smaller side and has not played that many games in his carrier yet. Playing a semi checking role is much more of a grind than playing a top 6 role. We will find out soon enough.
Right, I don’t want him there full-time (hence bringing it back to wanting Nodl there), but I’d start him there.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say ask me after we most likely see Rinaldo in the starting lineup for the Shelley-suspension games. I can’t give an honest answer on who I’d prefer without seeing if he can keep the BatShitCrazy reigned in for the most part. His play was good that first game, but we need a bigger sample size!
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by Chemistry66 on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it too much to hope to think that Nodl is a Lavvy favorite and a roster lock?
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At this rate, who knows? I hope Noodles gets a chance, but then again I still don’t know enough about all the new guys to say whether I feel he should be a lock over someone coming up from the Phantoms.
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by Chemistry66 on Sep 28, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I’m basing it off his use last year and his preseason use when he’s been in.
Pre-season we’ve seen him on both ends of special teams (PP and PK) and last year he was played exclusively over people like Carcillo.
I remember JVR and even Leino being Benched a time or two, Zhedrev of course, but I don’t remember Nodl being benched for non-injuries at all.
Maybe I’m remembering wrong because I’m a Nodl fan.
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I think he may have been benched once or twice at the very beginning of the season to put Zherdev/Carcillo in.
by hebrew hammer on Sep 28, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Nodl only played 67 games, so he was benched to start the year and in the middle of March (if I’m remembering correctly).
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope he does, you all should learn to love him
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If I wasn’t out of town then, Jenn and I would have come up. Keep me posted if you have more (ramp up next year’s to a 10K).
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
So far, we only have the one per year. And I’ll be gone next year so I won’t have info then unfortunately.
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by Chemistry66 on Sep 28, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I just realized you have a new Sig, Don.
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It came to me via an email. I’ll be changing it at some point soon. I think it was something I said at some point, and with Geoff’s back and forth yesterday, they thought it be funny.
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
It’s not a direct quote. But definitely the gist of what you have said before.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I just copied and pasted what you sent in the email. I was going to clean it up a bit, but figured it was a direct quote that I didn’t phrase in the best way possible.
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
Nope, that’s my off-the-cuff impression of you.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Your signature should read “lightning rod for internet crazy”
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It honestly should.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I was reminiscing in the thread that spawned that.
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My husband’s brother is getting married that day. Otherwise, I might’ve been interested :(
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by LeepinLizardz on Sep 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
When I made that joke, I was slammed for saying Read’s a fluke.
But with that award going to Pyorala, then Zherdev, now Read…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say Bobs was the winner last year, or even Testwudi. the Mika Pyorala Award doesn’t have to be limited to players that need to suck after camp, just players that come out of nowhere that all the fans love with no rational reasoning.
5 goals in 6 games isn’t enough to win the Pyorala award?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, gotcha.
It’s not just “great preseason”, it’s “great preseason from a rookie”. Got it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. We expect player like Z to have good preseasons. Like, Jagr shouldn’t be a finalist for the award. I would even say if Scheen had a great preseason, he wouldn’t be eligible because of expectations. It has to be someone that nobody really expected to be relevant, then a week later is the next Gretzky.
Well I can support that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand how Read is a fluke compared to Pyorala, since both had lights out preseasons. I’m not really expecting Read to have a huge season this year, I say he tops out at 12-15 goals. Even Pyorala was put on a line with Richards and Gagne, and still only had 2 goals.
Pyorala ranked 3rd on the team in CorsiRelQoC, had the lowest on-ice shooting% of any Flyers forward that year, and had a 3.3 CorsiRel.
He faced top competition and came out alive, while having crap shooting luck.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohh I believe you that Mika was a decent player
But you try convincing that that to all the other Flyers fans out there. I think his pre-season hype was his ultimate demise.
I think he fell victim to the “what’s defense?” problem most fans have.
If the guy isn’t scoring, he’s up for criticism.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No public sale of Winter Classic tickets
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How can I purchase tickets?
At this time, we do not anticipate that there will be 2012 Bridgestone NHL Winter Classic tickets available for public sale. For information on tickets to the Alumni game on Decmeber 31st, 2011 or the Phantoms vs. Hershey Bears game on January 6, 2012, please contact the Flyers Sales Department at 215-218-PUCK.
Stub Hub?
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I'm sure there will be plenty available
But playing a team from NY will really drive the prices up
According to this article re. last season’s Winter Classic, the average Stub Hub resale price was $439 per ticket, and there are a lot more seats at Heinz Field than at CBP.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10361/1113673-61.stm
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Heinz Field holds at least
20,000 more seats.
Exactly, so less seats in CBP should mean higher demand. Any guesses on what the average resale price for Winter Classic tix will be? Perhaps a poll is in order, and the winner gets Don’s tickets!
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Hey, I said consider. Honestly it would be in consideration if I wasn’t paying for a honeymoon, and the game was on the 1st instead of the 2nd. But those 2 things, plus the likely mark up on the ticket price has me thinking about it. Obviously I won’t sell them to anyone here as I’m looking to rip someone off with the price as much as possible, and I wouldn’t want to do that to any of you nice people.
No, see, Geoff's a dick, so you hear him saying X. But he means Y, he just is incapable of moving off the argument he's currently in with you to admit the common ground you share. We hate him for it.
Just make sure when you say Deal you say it as “Deeeeeeeeeal” and make sure both of your hands are turned palm up.
Because you want these buyers to take your offer seriously.
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And the Phillies season ticket holders won't be getting too many tickets either
This letter was sent to all Philles STH Monday.
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Thank you for your support as a Phillies season ticket holder. As you may be aware, the National Hockey League (NHL) has announced that the 2012 Bridgestone NHL Winter Classic will be held at Citizens Bank Park on Monday, January 2, 2012 at 1 p.m. ET when the Philadelphia Flyers will take on the New York Rangers.
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Information on the potential of a ticket opportunity drawing for current Phillies season ticket holders would be sent out at a later date. The number of tickets available for a potential ticket opportunity is yet to be determined, but will be extremely limited. As a reminder, the Winter Classic is a NHL event.
In addition to the Winter Classic game on January 2, Citizens Bank Park will also play host to two other hockey games:
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so…wheres the said angering/depressing story? You can’t promise me these things and not show up!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not even 3 pm yet. Patience, grasshopper.
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haha, nope
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Hard to have patience when you reach the hour and a half mark of french class, I just needed something to do
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by Cillo stache on Sep 28, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
start grumbling “mange, mange, mange” under your breath and start rummaging around your bag as if looking for food.
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I applaud that conjugation. Luckily i was saved by a hooligan. I also ended up drawing a pirate on my thumb (the whole “paperless school” thing is killing me, I’m a doodler)
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They have paperless schools now? I feel REALLY old.
Get a graphing calculator. With sin and cos curves and the edit tool you can doodle on those for hours.
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I changed schools to an IB stem school (my district got a third high school, which is this one, so its really not as weird as it sounds) so they’re trying to be all “technologically advanced”. They seriously think this school is the greatest thing to ever happen. Actually, if you get the philly inquirer or some other newspapers, you might’ve heard of it, its the Stem Academy. Also, I hate graphing calculators
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by Cillo stache on Sep 28, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I love graphing calculators! The games!
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back in my day the games weren’t there yet. So I would draw Pelicans and Monkey Faces.
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games? I’m ruther clueless with graphing calculators, so I do a lot by hand or in my head
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by Cillo stache on Sep 28, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Paperless school? Do people use laptops to take notes nowadays?
I was also a serious doodler in school. Even now, when I go to my kids’ back to school nights, and the teachers start droning on about something inconsequential, I find myself back to my old ways.
Sarauj, Latvija!
My Hebrew School notebooks were always serious works of art by the time the year was over, I was so bored there.
Chris Pronger: Now the Flyers really do have a Captain Elbows. #Winning
Of the sound mind that Giroux moved out because Briere burnt too many grilled cheeses.
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That opens up a whole new level for cheating.
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it really does. Since its first year, we basically own it. They trust us way too much and let us get away with so much (I mean, I’m here and on facebook most boring classes, and they let us roam free basically) they gave us macs for class and for us to keep, so theres so much potential for cheating
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Giving up isn't an option
by Cillo stache on Sep 28, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not in my class
Heh. They don’t expect the Bud in TN inquisition.
In my exams and papers:
(1) No computers or phones, at all. If one goes off, even vibrates, you get a zero
(2) No multiple-guess exams. Ever. Everything is short answer.
(3) All written assignments are submitted to a national plagiarism data base. If you are found out, either zero for the assignment (minimum penalty) or F for the course
(4) All assignments are brand new each term. If you cheat, it will be obvious, since you are answering the wrong questions. Whenever possible, questions are refreshed each term such that they specifically refer to that term and not previous terms.
(5) No curves. Ever. You get a 41 out of 100, deal with it.
Hey, this was a fun post!
Hunter Pence will not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither does Carlos Beltran.
Have you ever had the answers to a test scotch-taped to the front of your desk in real big font so that at least the first three rows can see it clearly?
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JVR & Nodl
Does anyone have any idea what happened to JVR & Nodl other that upper and/or lower body injuries? I haven’t seen or heard anything any where that even mentioned them getting hurt other than the reports with vague decriptions. What happened? How did it happen? When did it happen?
Its the Flyers, they’ve been vague and neither are playing tomorrow night.
Schenn is also out with “an upper body injury”
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Still need some help
Alright, yall. I’m debuting my daily column at SBNation.com soon. I asked for help before in naming it. I still need help.
Some names that I like but am not totally crazy about:
Hash Marks
Riding The Pine
The Point
The Neutral Zone
Anything stick out? Anybody have anything better?
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Travis to the Restaurant?
Chris Pronger: Now the Flyers really do have a Captain Elbows. #Winning
Of the sound mind that Giroux moved out because Briere burnt too many grilled cheeses.
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Shots from the Point
The Neutral Zone Trap
Riding the Pine sounds too much like Baseball
Hash marks I am not crazy about.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
I strike Hash Marks.
Dump & Chase? That may already be taken though… a links post, maybe?
Morning Skate
I’m not creative at all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This is news?
Chris Pronger: Now the Flyers really do have a Captain Elbows. #Winning
Of the sound mind that Giroux moved out because Briere burnt too many grilled cheeses.
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It should be a headline in tomorrow’s Fly By.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
“Thursday Morning Fly By: I’m Not Creative At All”?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well hey, look at that…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
That’s the earliest I had a Fly By headline. Why give that up when I spent 4 hours last night watching baseball?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually don’t hate Morning Skate. But we have a college football column called Morning Tailgate, so I mean… really similar.
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by Travis Hughes on Sep 28, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And Dump & Chase really isn’t so bad either, I don’t think.
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by Travis Hughes on Sep 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That was my original suggestion when you first posed the question. I still like it, but there may be an existing hockey blog (or several) that use that title.
Sarauj, Latvija!
Ah, see, my ideas aren’t even original.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
two for tripping
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Giving up isn't an option
by Cillo stache on Sep 28, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha “Corsi’s Corner” is incredible! Now all we need to do is get Geoff drunk, stick him between the benches and have him mumble on about corsi for an entire game!
Sadly, we here are BSH are really the only ones that are going to appreciate that!
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by Mitchell Green on Sep 28, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh wow, Corsi’s Corner is good.
Chris Pronger: Now the Flyers really do have a Captain Elbows. #Winning
Of the sound mind that Giroux moved out because Briere burnt too many grilled cheeses.
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That’s why i have twitter, duh.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Your problem is that every single common hockey meme has been used since the dawn of time. Coming up with an original one that is creative is basically impossible. I’d just pick the one you like the most because it’s a crap shoot.
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by Mitchell Green on Sep 28, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
S-s-s-sestito received a four game suspension. Two preseason and two regular season games.
I guess because it’s his first offense, he got off a little light.
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Geoff...
Here’s the full roster for the cap check I ran on Carchidi’s tweet:
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.250m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jaromir Jagr ($3.300m)
Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Ian Laperriere ($1.166m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.845m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.737m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $1,402,500
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,299,762; BONUSES: $4,265,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$999,762
Take out Lappy to see how much is left on his LTIR, and it’s only $166,905. That’s squeaking under the cap limit.
Bob.
I like how you took my solution :)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
/egoboost
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Of the sound mind that Giroux moved out because Briere burnt too many grilled cheeses.
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My first tweet did say waive Shelley, make Nodl the 13th F, and it worked. It doesn’t work with Shelley, since if you replace Nodl with Shelley, you’re $88,095 over the limit, even with Lappy’s LTIR.
Bob.
Right. But I don’t want Couturier playing against Boston, Vancouver, or L.A.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I just got a text about a trade involving Hartnell/Nodl to the Preds for Kostitsyn and someone else. Has anyone else heard anything about this??
I'm kind of a dick.
It was a joke on Twitter started by 9inOrange
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, for what it’s worth, this Panotch story is out there today as well, in which he says the following:
Among the moves, Holmgren kind of smiled in saying there are ways to do this and the hot rumor of the day was trading Scott Hartnell’s $4.2 million cap hit back to Nashville.
A club source said that the likelihood of a trade seemed “pretty good.”
Sarauj, Latvija!
I did a Google search to find the origin of this rumour and ended up on HFboards (of course). But I did find this gem of a comment:
I just hope it’s not Matt Walker being moved.
I’m fine with Nodl being moved, he is fucking terrible. I have no idea what the Flyers see in him. Throw Bartulis in this category too.
Betts isn’t as good as he used to be. I think his shoulder problems are getting to him. Wouldn’t care if he was gone.
Mourning Gagne forever.
by ToddtheFox on Sep 28, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bwahahahahaha
I hope he got mocked repeatedly.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 28, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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