Wednesday Morning Fly By: Halfway!
by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 6:00 AM EST
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Recaps: [BSH] [Canes Country] [Inquirer] [Philly Sports Daily] [CSNPhilly] [Flyers Faithful]
- Claude Giroux is now a leader: [CSNPhilly]
- And he was named the Hart Trophy winner in yet another midpoint vote: [Puck Daddy]
- More report cards: [CSNPhilly] [Orange and Black Pack]
- Paul Holmgren is happy with the Flyers' first half: [CSNPhilly]
- Tom Sestito, Oliver Lauridsen, and Joel Rechlicz were each suspended one game for their actions on Saturday: [Phantoms Forum] [Flyers Faithful]
- Niko Hovinen stopped 21 of 25 shots in a 4-2 loss: [euroflyers]
- Jakub Kovar stopped 40 of 45 shots in a 6-4 loss: [euroflyers]
- The Future Flyers Weekly Report starring Brendan Ranford, Ricard Blidstrand, and Jason Akeson: [Flyers Faithful]
- James Neal was supposed to have a broken foot. He played last night: [SBNation.com]
- On the firing of Scott Arniel: [Driving Play] [The Cannon]
- Some strange coincidences in Minnesota as a fundraiser for Jack Jablonski saw the winning puck toss was numbered 13, just like Jack, and the winner was the player who injured him: [Puck Daddy]
- A funny cartoon from Sleek on the NHLPA shelving realignment: [Battle of California]
- Winners and losers at the midpoint of the season: [Down Goes Brown]
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The Flyers were terrible last night. They got the win thanks to a guy named BOB. Halfway?!?! This season is going WAY too fast. I’m enjoying this seaon way too much to think it is on the downslide!
I was actually thinking last night wow its only half way through the season. with all the ups and downs with injuries and bryz making smores in the woods
by profoundnotions on Jan 11, 2012 8:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
So after watching another disappointing and Swiss Cheese third period, I firmly do believe that this team needs a defensive rental replacement that resembles Pronger attributes
Problem is, I don’t think one exists on the market.
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 11, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions
or does it exist and we would just need to trade away our future for a half season rental plug
by profoundnotions on Jan 11, 2012 8:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Francois Beauchemin – not a perfect match, but affordable to acquire.
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So…it might be an unpopular opinion but I’ve come to my conclusion that “Knock Knock,” besides the chorus and the shit stolen from the older song, is a terrible piece of music.
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Agreed. Although I think that is sort of a theme with victory songs for whatever reason.
by youtastelikeaburger on Jan 11, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed, but I still have to like it if the Flyers do. I play it once after every victory and never in between.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Of course, but I sing way worse than he does. And I do both Simmonds’ and Hartnell’s parts with the handmotions. It’s a big production.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 11, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I like a lot of horrible music for the catchiness of it, which is what I like about Knock Knock. I like half the lyrics, the ones not involving weed, particularly, “Everything’s good, I’m white boy awesome”. Just makes me giggle every time. It’s a good song to dance to as well. So, while it’s not necessarily a fine piece of music, I find it highly enjoyable and catchy, which is all I look for these days.
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I should have played that song last night on my way home from the game!
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he has some songs with good beats ..this one is pretty freaky though watch at least to midway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ19PJ7-SWc&feature=related
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He reminds me of Eminem mixed with Sam Adams
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not as funny as this rapper
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just went old school on yo ass
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fuddy duddy
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i’m more nutty than fuddy and buddy than duddy riding along with Dr. Octagon all around downtown in the shadows named the
underground full of those who understand like Ferdinand the bull the power of stopping to smell the blue flowers
Dr. Octagon, paramedic fetus of the east / With priests, I’m from the church of the operating room / With the strike support, scal -
pels since the holocaust / I do indeed in greed, explore meet the patients / Back to brooms with the nurse with the voodoo curse
Holding up office lights, standing at huge heights / Back and forth, left wing swing to north / East and south with blood pouring down your mouth / I come prepared with the white suit and stethascope / Listen to your heartbeat, delete beep beep beep / Your insurance is high, but my price is cheap / Look at the land … blue flowers! / Drawing by the purple pond, in the purple pastures blue flowers! / Drawing by the purple pond, yellow ink that flows blue flowers! / Drawing by the pond, look, it’s raining yellow
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Holding bags on down right from the hospital / It’s a patient that’s worth to keep the germs off the turf / Cybernetic microscopes and metal antidote/Two telescopes that magnify the size of a roach /Three computers to cup of coffee planted with my hand and
Astroplanets detached turn on rear foggers / Cut the light on the kid, and turn the bright on / Supersonic waves combine and burn as brainwaves / I see the mascot of evil he’s not kneivel / Shakespeare’s gone don’t even think about it / Yes, as I’m going to the park, I see … blue flowers! / It’s raining green, by the pond blue flowers! / It’s totally raining green, pouring blue flowers!
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Besides being the name of an ice cream treat, the Nutty Buddy is now the name of an athletic cup. So I’m a nut and a cracker.
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Oh, it is absolutely atrocious. It actually makes me very sad that the Flyers use that as their victory song. I wouldn’t be able to listen to it that many times.
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by Mitchell Green on Jan 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
James Neal was supposed to have a broken foot. He played last night
Yup, after I scrambled to get him on IR and find a replacement before the rosters locked… :-p
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 11, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
This is awesome.
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So I had to catch the Canes feed to watch the game last night and whenever the Flyers got a PP, the commentators kept emphasizing the point of us being vulnerable to a shorthanded rush because there is always a forward playing the point on both units.
Is there any evidence to suggest that this is true or is it just something people think is true? I realize sample sizes are not that big but just wanted to get some input.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions
The Flyers are 21st in shorthanded shot attempts against, and 23rd in shorthanded goals against.
I’m sure it’s true that certain situations are more dangerous with this setup, but it doesn’t seem to have a particularly large impact on the overall result.
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I happened to listen to the Canes feed at that point, and heard this also. However, I have an entirely different take on why this is stupid. The classic PP has 2 guys on the point. On every PECO, it looks like both the 4th forward and the D-man are confused on who should be taking the pass at the point, and even who should be on which point. This often results in the puck squeaking through, or, worse, creating turnovers. I get that maybe it hasn’t hurt them dramatically from a short-handed perspective, but it sure has not helped continuity on the PP.
IF Lavi must have a 4th forward on the PP (ugh) due to Pronger’s absence, then I would far prefer having it being Read or even Scooter, who know how to position themselves, pass well, and can control the puck. This creates a different type of power play, but it also would not result in turnovers or confusion.
FYI, Lavi could also just have the 4th forward on half the PP….using Kimmo. Then on the other half, Carle and Meszaros could be on the points. Carle’s shot isn’t quite as good as Mez, but he knows what to do out there on offense.
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it looks like both the 4th forward and the D-man are confused on who should be taking the pass at the point, and even who should be on which point.
Unit 1: Top of “umbrella”: Kimmo. Giroux on the left boards, Jags in the slot, Simmer/Harts in front/corner, Voracek on the Right boards.
Unit 2: Top: Carle/Mez. Briere on left boards, JVR on right boards (“other defender”) and the other guys (Schenn, Read, Harts, Simmer).
There is no confusion, the strategy we employ only uses one defender up top in the middle.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if you mean “this is the current strategy” or “this is what should be the strategy”. It is the umbrella where they seem to be most confused. Also, I think the umbrella is being used with D other than Kimmo (a bad idea IMO).
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
They only work out of the umbrella. The whole idea of both units is to get the puck to G or Briere on the left boards (both righties), surrounded by lefties. Ideally its Prongs atop one and Timo atop the other. Mez or Carle is going to have to step up to be the QB of the other unit.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
My friend likes rumours
He says Luke Schenn is coming to Philly.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Dr. Steve on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/Could-Luke-Schenn-be-coming-to-Philly.html
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by A Flyers Phamily on Jan 11, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
That article mentions not keeping Carle, so I hate it. And how does Luke replace Carle?
I’d rather keep Carle than any of our other defensemen. And if we can overpay for Coburn, we can resign Carle.
I get angry just thinking of losing Carle!
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Dr. Steve on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well whats luke shenns upside? is he upside as high as his brother, cause if so ill take it if that means getting a top 2 d man to take the rains from kimmo
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His upside is top-2 dman (8.5 B according to Hockey’s Future, which means in-between No. 2 d-man and perennial All-Star, should reach potential, could slip to second-pair defender). He just turned 22 years old.
I’m betting Toronto wants a lot for him. So either we believe Hockey’s Future and expect to have to trade Couturier/Schenn to get him, or you don’t believe Hockey’s Future and trade something less.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
get rid of that 1st rounder since hes only playing 16 mins a night..toronto shot the foot with that maybe two 2nd rounders(this years draft) gus and a 3rd or two seing as below first round the draft isnt to deep this year i hear
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He was a 5th overall pick the year before his brother. We have to give up at least 2 NHL caliber pieces—- ie: Gus (Bourdon’s moved past him on the depth chart-IMO, and we don’t need another offensive minded defender—-esp if we trade for Schenn). Maybe two seconds (LA’s and Florida’s) plus Gus?
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
that was my thoughts exactly, if toronto was giving him 24 mins a night it would cost a 1st rounder because they think he can cut it, but with 16 a night they seem to be devaluing him
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id rather keep the first and draft another d man in this top heavy draft
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We’re not picking until 20th. We could have some early second rounders, we have LA’s second and Florida’s second (either their second this year or next year—-their choice)
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
i know..read my fan shot. lots of injuries to high prospects and we could always trade up
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MICHAEL!
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You think Toronto won’t require a 1st round pick for a 22 year old former top-5 pick who is projected to be a #2 NHL defenseman they just signed to a five year contract?
I think you’re way off.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
i dont because they have stopped playing him as much, could be a stupid way of thinking i just dont see a 16 min a night defender getting a 1st rounder…that and i really hope it works out like i said…i mean we did get coburn for zhitnik didnt we?
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MICHAEL!
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Couturier plays about 10 minutes a game, you don’t think we’d require at least a second for him?
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
he was just drafted hes 18 and he hasnt played more than 10..id be worried if they gave him 1st line minutes for two season then 3rd or 4th line minutes next
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MICHAEL!
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As a neutral observer, I am amused by a dispute between these points of view:
- Toronto will want a ton for him, he’s not worth that much and I don’t want him
- Toronto will give him up cheap, he’s worth more than that and I want him
So everyone’s roughly in agreement about his actual value, but nobody thinks that Toronto would come to that same conclusion.
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Last year Schenn played vs. 2nd pair, had .61 G+A1 (Phanuff had only .35, Schenn was far and away tops on the team), CRel of +1.5, 49.3 Start %, while leading team in PKTOI/g. One year removed from that season as a 21 year old and now he’s not worth a first? No way.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Coburn for Zhitnik is entirely different. Not only is a trade of that nature rare, but Brian Burke is no Don Waddell, Coburn hadn’t just signed a 5 year deal with Atlanta, and Toronto isn’t trying to make the playoffs for the first time in their history.
But beyond that, while I agree that Schenn’s reduced ice time is indicative of some sort of falling out, I don’t think Toronto sees John-Michael Liles in their long-term plans. If he isn’t re-signed this summer, Schenn is battling Mike Komisarek for the #4 defenseman at age 23.
Burke knows the importance of defense (think of his days in Anaheim) and knows he got Schenn on a favorable contract. Burke also knows the importance of youth, since he was trying to get JVR from the Flyers as recently as last year and Jeff Carter for years.
I just don’t see how Burke asks for anything less than a first round pick.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Luke for Gus and our first this year and third next year. Do you do it? If no, do you do it for Suter?
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
we are also forgetting cam fowler could be avaiable at the deadline or draft
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MICHAEL!
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What does “could” mean? Fowler is a stud, his value is way way high.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t do it for Suter, since he’ll demand a lot more than $3.5m this summer.
For Schenn, I still wait until the offseason when I know what the new CBA will be like & whether Pronger can play. If Pronger is done and there’s no amnesty, I don’t because I don’t want to be on LTIR and/or lose Matt Carle.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
So what move do you make for this season? Gleason? Allen? Sbisa?
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
he would make a trade for matt calvert
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I would, but there’s no room for him on this team :)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
not if they move up with read and a 1st for maybe a top ten pick…..u think a 2nd and wellwood would pry away calvert?
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I mean no room on the NHL roster. Read + 1st for Calver + 1st I’d do. I don’t think Columbus would – or let me say, they shouldn’t – but I’d definitely do that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
i read your post on him is he still as good for was it flash in the pan?
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His stint in the NHL last year was driven by unsustainable shooting percentages, so his points were artificially inflated.
I don’t think there’s much difference between Calvert and Read, but the two that come to mind are: 1) age. Calvert just turned 22, Read is 25; and 2) Calvert is more physical, Read is more defensively responsible.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly don’t make a move unless someone comes to me. I think Bourdon/Marshall/Gus/Lilja fighting for #5/6/7 dmen is just fine.
Now, if an injury happens, I’m screwed. But I sit pat.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
When is Gus getting back anyway?
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 11, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
No idea. He’s playing for the Phantoms now, with Walker on waivers (I’m assuming he cleared?), I imagine he’ll be up soon, pushing Lilja to the press box.
Not sure though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Now, apparently.
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Matt Read for Calder!
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I’d be shocked if we got him for anything less than a first and one of: Bourdon/Gus.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
So we could trade Schenn for Schenn?
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by The Dark on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Luke Schenn is having a horrible year.
Unless he can be acquired for next to nothing (which he actually might be), I don’t want him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
wasnt he supposed to be the next big thing on defense?
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Yeah, he was supposed to be.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t you think a trade from a very average team playing over it’s head to a perennial Cup Contender with his brother on the team would spark his game? 3.6 per year isn’t bad if he can play at a 3/4 defender, no?
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
if he steps up 2 being a 2/4 d man then he is a direct replacement for carle at a smaller cap hit for the next 5 years
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3/4*
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Which is why this would be great as long as we don’t give up anything that Geoff said (Top-4 or NHL talent under 24 years old). On that note, what is Matt Read’s value around the league?
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Matt Read is a tough one. His potential is high and his output is low. So we could try a trade based on potential or sign him based on output.
Or trade him based on output or sign him based on potential _
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Dr. Steve on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sign him so I can buy a jersey!!
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 11, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t want to trade him but I was just wondering…
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think the quality of his team has anything to do with his spark. He’s playing in Toronto; if that isn’t enough to give him a spark, playing with his brother is only marginally more.
I like his potential, I like his cap hit, but I don’t like how much Toronto will ask and I don’t like his NHL performance through four years.
A) I would wait until the off-season, see if Toronto is still babying him; and B) I’d try to build a package around Simmonds (assuming Voracek will re-sign), but I don’t know how much else it would cost.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
You wouldn’t make a move before the deadline? I think the target order is Suter, Schenn, Gleason.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t make a move for Schenn before the deadline. His price tag will simply be far too much. Either Toronto is making a playoff push and will want legit NHL players in return, or they’re rebuilding and trying to keep guys who are 22 years old.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Would you push for Suter for the deadline? Would you settle for no moves?
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I’d strongly consider Suter at the deadline as a rental, but I’d make sure I put some sort of condition on the trade knowing I won’t re-sign him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, I like that, but they’ll want big time compensation, and we don’t want to give up big time compensation for a rental. I’d rather aquire Schenn in season, Suter out of season. But if the price is there I really like either of Gleason or Allen. Both play top comp, and have positive CRels.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how the Flyers could afford Suter. Just don’t see it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Suter will be signed, but in case, not traded.
Weber is a more interesting case, but he won’t be traded to the Flyers.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Luke Schenn is also in the first year of a 5-year, $18M contract.
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Paid for potential. He’s still only 22, so the thing is: If people loved JVR’s deal, they’d absolutely love L. Schenn’s.
I take back what I said above: Unless he can be acquired for cheap (think anyone not on NHL roster age 24 or younger or in top-4 on defense), I don’t want him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
To the frugally inclined, there is a world of difference.
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truth
Ramen costs next to nothing
Lipton noodles are cheap
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 11, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
When I get drunk, I crave Ramen. I think it’s drunken recall from college.
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i preferred Cup O noodles to be honest. the sodium loaded peas and corn were very tasty
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, me too actually, I just said Ramen because it stuck with what you said. God I lived off of Cup O’ when i had no money.
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did you ever have the Spicy Cup O Noodles?
Never again
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
But just think, if they both played here, after either one scores a goal, we could do a whole “Brothers Don’t Shake Hands, Brothers Gotta Hug!” thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmTRFvZ_Cp4
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Seravalli and LeBrun
Interestingly, @Real_ESPNLeBrun says Flyers have Nashville’s Suter as the No. 1 guy on their list.
LeBrun in reply:
@DNFlyers Doesn’t mean they’re going to get him… lots of d-men on Flyers’ list…LeBrun:
I think Tim Gleason is among several other names the Flyers have on their radar as well…
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Gleason tried to rough up Schenn last night, how will they ever be teammates?!
by hebrew hammer on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Anything about Bryan Allen? I like his game too… and he beats top compotition (Highest CorsiRel of defense vs. top comp)
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Sigh. See above. I watch lots of Preds games on TV, and Suter is very, very unlikely to be traded.
And I think Schenn or Suter or Weber is not the guy the Flyers should be targeting. It is Jonathan Blum, who, inexplicably talent-wise, is toiling in Milwaukee right now, because the Preds have lots and lots of young D. In fact, I’d prefer Ryan Ellis, but he would require Schenn or Couturier, plus maybe draft choices, in return. I’m not joking, Ellis is the real deal.
Last year I thought Blum was too. He looked great, better than at any point I have seen Schenn. But the Preds might listen to offers now. I’d give up Voracek plus Gus or draft choices in a hurry for him. And before you say, “I don’t want to give up Voracek!” the Flyers have lots of extra young forwards, while the Preds have lots of extra young D, you have to give up something, and I think it will come to “Jagr or Voracek?” with regard to cap space next year. Getting Blum (or, in my dreams, Ellis) would solve many of the current and future concerns.
FYI, here is what I expect from the Preds: Suter is re-signed before the trade deadline, while Weber is traded in a blockbuster to someone like Toronto at the deadline or the Preds simply let him go as RFA and get zillions of draft choices.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
what if jagr retires?
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Then the Flyers might be able to re-sign Carle.
Earlier, I said that the Flyers would have to get rid of Jagr, Voracek or Carle. I originally said, trade Voracek. Then I thought, maybe too much potential, maybe not re-sign Jagr. Now I believe, after realizing that Carle would be worth $5M, that 2 of those have to go. If Voracek could bring a young D, that would solve problems.
Note that the Flyers only have $6M in cap space in 2012-13, and that does not include signing RFAs.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Of the 3 large UFA/RFA players, I’d want to keep Jagr the most, only because it would be most likely to be a short term deal (probably 1 year again), carrying us through the last year of Timonen’s deal.
I think the Flyers should be building towards having as much cap space as possible for the year after Timonen’s deal ends. Schenn and Couturier will be on the last year of their deals, as will Giroux. Lilja, Walker, Hartnell and Shelley’s deals will be off the books.
I think that 2013-2014 season will see the highest value in terms of production compared to cap hit from almost everyone, so I would hate to see the FO handcuff themselves this offseason by taking on big salaries.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
very true…i wonder if hartsy will take a discount to stay
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I guess it depends on how he plays the rest of this season and next season. It’s funny that all summer long we complained about his contract and now he seems to be earning it, more or less.
Gagne went from being a $5M cap hit to a $3.5M (over 2 years). So it would be great to see Hartnell sign on for another 2 years at something like $2.75-3.5M.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 11, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
well not on this line he is mike knuble esque so wha knubies hit?
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My understanding is that Knuble has been playing on the 4th line in WSH though and not putting up many points.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 11, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Blum doesn’t look so hot here. What is this missing?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff, I don’t have a good answer for this in advanced-stats land. I know enough of about these stats to be dangerous, I think they are good, but I simply don’t follow them. This surprises me as much as if you said “Matt Read has a -10 Corsi, he should go to the AHL.” But “my eyes tell me” Blum makes moves on D that sometimes look like Kimmo or even Mark Howe.
Maybe the Preds know what you know and are just trying to give him more seasoning.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
-10 Corsi Relative that is
/demonstrating ignorance
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Haha, it’s fine. Corsi just doesn’t adjust for how good/bad his team is like CorsiRel. It’s perfectly fine to use, just not BSH preferred :)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the numbers there show a very offensive player – his goals/60 are double Kimmo’s 10/11 numbers – who’s good at moving play forward into the offensive zone. But they show a guy who got beat by second line opponents with easy zone starts last year and a guy who got beat by fourth line opponents with difficult zone starts this year.
The takeaway for me is: He’s young, hasn’t played much, scores a lot, spends a ton of time in his own end, but somehow ends his shifts in the offensive zone.
I guess this is SSS alert, or maybe he’s just very young. Either way, at the moment, he looks more like Gus to me than Carle/Kimmo.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm…interesting. This kinda reminds me of my complaint of x-FIP in MLB. FIP and its variants do not allow for “superstar” pitchers who can control their pitches enough to trump BABIP. Similarly, Blum looks like Gus when you smooth out the variances through Corsi. I can tell you from watching lots of both Blum and Gus that Blum makes moves that so far Gus has never come close to. But it also sounds like Blum goofs more than Gus (thus, overall, the median stats make them look similar).
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Eh. From what little I understand about FIP and xFIP, xFIP assumes HR/FB% should be league average and removes/adds HRs accordingly while FIP accounts for what actually happened.
As far as pitchers trumping BABIP, aren’t there only a handful of pitchers who can continually see .280 or lower BABIPs? Or are you saying something else entirely?
In the current situation, I look at this as more of a small sample problem compounded by the lack of a clear role providing context than any limitation on the numbers.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Something else I think.
The assumption behind BABIP and FIP is that pitchers cannot control where the batters hit the ball. I contend that the very great pitchers like Roy Halladay can pitch it in a place that there is only one place to hit the ball, and that is at an infielder, thus lowering BABIP more than it would have. If this is true, this violates the assumptions of BABIP and FIP because the outlier exemplars are missing.
The relationship to this discussion is that the “missing outilers” would end up smoothing out the variance, thus Gus and Blum would end up at the same statistical correlation.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Baseball tangents!
Just for argument’s sake, Roy Halladay’s BABIP this past year was 61st out of 94 qualified MLB pitchers. IIRC, the only active starter who has consistently been able to keep his BABIP well below average is Matt Cain, and no one has quite figured out yet how that’s happened.
That’s not to say that pitchers have no control over it, per se, but the idea you’ve proposed here that pitchers “can put the ball where it can only be hit to an infielder” is off. Pitchers can to some extent control their splits for ground balls/fly balls/line drives, and certain splits are more susceptible to lower BABIPs and such (lower line drives, higher ground balls = lower BABIP; higher fly balls = lower BABIP but more homers allowed). That’s why they came up with SIERA, which is the most accurate predictor out there right now I believe.
In any event, I’m not quite sure where this comparison is going, unless it’s just “I disagree with what advanced stats are telling me.”
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 11, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I am not against advanced stats per se. I wrote a long explanation to the above, then deleted it, since I think my explanation above is as good as I am going to go for this blog, as anything further I would need to go into statistical theory. Let’s just say, there are always assumptions in any statistical analysis, even in basic regression or cluster analysis, and I don’t buy all of the assumptions of all of the baseball statistics. FYI, I think there are somewhat fewer assumptions in hockey stats.
Here, the short version is that I’m saying that Blum’s variance might be way more than Gus’s.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
SIERA was dropped by Baseball Prospectus and for the basically the reason that caused me concern when I encountered it – added complexity for an insignificant amount of insight. Without a statistics background to say exactly why, which the following article adresses and may be of interest to DLRjr and Eric T., I simply relied on Occam’s Razor and SIERA failed to pass the sniff test. The article express the issues I have about using skill-based estimators with true outcome stats like FIP – minor tweaks made with powerful statistical tools resulting in “trusting in the formula to do the right amount of regression for us”. Are we finding anything intentional or simply seeing a side effect?
From McManus
Oskars Bartulis remains in Philadelphia, where he recently had surgery on an upper-body injury. There is no timetable for his return. Bartulis hasn’t played since Nov. 30.
This is the first time I heard of surgery for him. I’ve been wondering what happened to him, whether he reinjured the shoulder (if it was ever healed to begin with). If it was his shoulder, that is.
Thanks for that. I’ve been trying to find out for a while what happened to him. The Phantoms were saying for weeks that it’s an undisclosed injury. Hope he’s ok. He’s had some bad luck starting with the Upshall hit, then finally getting healthy but not being able to complete training camp due the funeral for Skrastins, and now this.
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say we find out carle wants 5 million a season
should we trade him at the deadline so we can get a good return on a leaving player, or get a 3rd or 4th rounder for his rights at the end of the season.
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He deserves around 5 million a season—-easily.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
flyers wont pay that
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Why not? He’s carrying our 10th organizational defender right now vs. 2nd pair comp to a positive CorsiRel. He lead the NHL in ES points last year. He’s a bonafide stud worth everything he’ll ask for in the offseason.
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
im not saying he isnt worth it im just saying i dont see them giving him anything more than coburn
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But he’s better than Coburn and the Flyers overpaid for him.
We have two (read: one) aging defensemen and Bryz. You don’t improve by losing Carle. He’s a stud and it’s high time we realize that.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Dr. Steve on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pay him
Try and talk him down to a little under 5, but it’s a small additional cap hit based on what he’s getting now for someone who’s going to anchor our defender for the foreseeable future.
It’s what Coburn and Mez are getting.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Dr. Steve on Jan 11, 2012 12:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FWIW, Mez is getting an average of $4 per year, and Coburn is getting an average of $4.5 on his extension. I would call both of those less than a little under $5mil.
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 11, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Pierre LeBrun say Suter is tops on the list for the Flyers front office.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 11, 2012 11:30 AM EST reply actions
you think the price will be high/low or just right?
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I dont know really but what I do know is that my gut tells me they’ll make a stupid move at or before the deadline.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt Nashville would deal Suter as long as they are still in the playoff picture. Still, your gut may not be too wrong, seeing as how the FO will probably overpay for Suter’s rights in the offseason.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh. See above. In Preds-land, Suter is perceived as the much more likely long-run keeper than Weber.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Is that solely because of Weber’s arbitrated salary this season?
As a mildly interesting OT, I am a TN transplant now in Jersey.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Jan 11, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think there are multiple reasons, not the least of which Suter has been perceived as more of a team guy by the rumor mill surrounding the team, even before the arbitration duel. Others note that Weber’s stats tank when Suter is gone, while Suter’s don’t when Weber is gone. The RFA/UFA chess game is the final piece (Weber is RFA Suter is UFA, Preds can lose Weber and still win).
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
i really see homer trading a 1st rounder, which is stupid because the probability of great prospects dropping low in the draft due to injury in draft year is high this year….galchenyuk was ranked limited veiwing between 30 and 31 and he was battleing nail for 1st last year
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We do really well with our drafting, I’d hate to go back to no first round picks. They’ve all turned out good, and we’ve not had the highest picks every year.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Dr. Steve on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
exactly…we are like the most interesting man in the world…“i dont always draft in the first round, but when i do, i make a draft day steal”…i mean giroux in the twenties richards and carter turned out to be uber stars(for us anyway) and they were high teens and 20s i think
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Carter was 11, Richards was 24.
But in a draft that had Parise at 17, Getzlaf at 19, Burns at 20, Kesler at 23, Perry at 28, Bergeron at 45, Carle at 47, Weber at 49…that’s less about the Flyers’ steals and more about the depth of the draft.
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The 2006 draft wasn’t too shabby either
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by The Dark on Jan 11, 2012 1:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
got me there
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MICHAEL!
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I agree with your general point though: the Flyers have picked very well in the first round over the last decade.
And hey, they could’ve picked Hugh Jessiman and Ryan Stone.
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what if
we went after luca sbisa? he was good when he was here, although I haven’t kept up with his play out in Anaheim.
I’d do that, he’s still got serious potential, he’s only 22…
by OrangeNblacK on Jan 11, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
His name sounds like food
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by Cillo stache on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
How can I find out a players Corsi/CorsiRel with and without a player on ice (like the Nash w/ and w/out Voracek tables)
Unfortunately, WOWY data isn’t available at the moment. Eric did it for last year and he plans to do it again this year, but not for a couple months.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
How does he do it, all by himself or is there a database of some sort used? What about expected OZFinish% given OZStart%?
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He pulls all the NHL play-by-play data for every game and creates an Excel sheet.
Expected OZFinish% can be found here.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Walker is back in ADK, Gus is back! yay!
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The humongous universe is back in order!
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
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Gus to the pressbox!
/Lavy’d
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by The Dark on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
All this “trade for a defenseman” talk depresses me for some reason. I think it’s because I am afraid of losing one of our young gun studs (Couturier or Shenn). I’d be less upset if they JvR was the one that got shipped out for that stud defenseman though.
Also, I am going to be very, very angry if Mezsaros is a Flyer and Carle doesn’t get re-signed.
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JVR for luke schenn and a 1st!
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/sarcasm………or is it
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There’s no way JvR is moving — the Flyers would never trade a young forward right after giving him a long extension.
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by Eric T. on Jan 11, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
hahaha
altough if offered i would tottally take that trade
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I would much rather trade JVR to NSH to get Suter or Weber I don’t want to have to deal with JVR being the conference. But with the realignment that doesn’t really matter either.
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prob is suter has carle like corsi rel and will want between 5 and 6 million maybe more next season//id rather take a 2st and a signed d man over a d man who most likely wont sign unless we throw the bank at him…at least with schenn we can resign carle or we can just grab gleason
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Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
JVR to NSH to get Suter or Weber
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
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GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I didn’t say JVR for Suter or Weber straight up did I don’t read between the lines.
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by The Dark on Jan 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don’t think so. The first guy said “let’s move JvR in a package for Schenn.” chris was just trying to say “if we’re moving JvR, I want him going out of conference, like to Nashville in a Suter/Weber package.”
I personally don’t care about where he gets traded — do whatever move helps the Flyers the most and don’t worry about how one other team might benefit too — but I think that’s all chris was going for here.
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Bernie has one?!?!?
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He was around the WC more than he has, and he did welcome G the other night.
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And he had a nice lunch with a friend.
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