Bob
I know that Bob had a great first half to last season and that he slumped mightilly after that. I also know that he's had an entire off season to work on his conditioning and to get ready for the long haul of an NHL full season. I also know that he had 56 appearances last year and is on pace for only 32 this year---hopefully keeping him fresh for longer. What else do I know? I know that Semyon Varlamov was traded from Washington to Colorado for a first and a second---and the first will most likely be a lottery pick. Why is this relevent? Because as good as Bob played last year, he's playing better this year. What does that mean for Bryz, Bob and the future of the Flyers?
The numbers:
| Player | GP | W | L | O | P% | GAA | ESS% | SHS% | SV% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bob 10-11 | 54 | 28 | 13 | 8 | 0.65 | 2.59 | 0.923 | 0.868 | 0.915 |
| Bob 11-12 | 16 | 9 | 3 | 1 | 0.73 | 2.45 | 0.927 | 0.904 | 0.918 |
| Varlamov 10-11 | 27 | 11 | 9 | 5 | 0.54 | 2.23 | 0.93 | 0.892 | 0.924 |
Bob and Varlamov are both 23 from Russia and they are widley regarded as the 1 (Semyon) and 2 (Bob) goalies in their year. If Varlamov was traded for a first and second, where does that put Bob's value? Comparing last years Bob to last years Varlamov, Semyon was far and away the better goalie. Bob won more (P% was .11 better) but also gave up almost .4 goals more per game had a ESS% .07 less than Varlamov. Since then, Bob has bounced back and has started off better than expected. He's winning more (.08 P% increase---now .19 better than Varlamov of last year), giving up fewer goals (.14 G/g decrease, now just .22 worst than Varlamov's last season), increased his ESS% (By only .04, but he cut the .07 gap from Varlamov to Bob10-11 in half), greatly improved his PKS% (.36 increase from last year, .12 better than Varlamov's last season, and has seen his overall S% increase from .915 to .918.
This post is not attempting to say "trade Bob", it's asking the question of 'What is Bob's trade value." If Bob can keep up his solid play for the rest of the year, he's worth no less than an early 2nd pick. If he improves as the year goes on, his value could be even more. What would it cost to give up Bob?
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the only way i trade bob is to a basement team
columbus would be the logical answer sinc ethey have the goalie issues. anaheim has hiller carolina has ward calgary has kippy…what i would love to see is we trade bob to columbus we get the lottery pick one of nail mikail or murray then have bob hate columbus and come back here when his contract is up….
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
This would be awesome. But Scott Howson would be fired immediately.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 12, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Colorado was widely panned for that trade, and JS Giguere is outplaying his so far this year.
In otherwords, the Varlamov trade is the exception, not the rule.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions
Lottery pick?
What is a lottery pick? I have not heard of them before.
So is it how they got JVR, because they were the worst team in the east when an eastern conference team won the cup, causing Chicago to get the first pick with Kane because they were the worst team in the west?
Yeah, it’s how they got JVR. The reason the Flyers picked 2nd and not 1st is because they lost the lottery, not because of any East/West designation.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
we should trade bryz and his crappy contract
and roll with bob. he’s much more consistent and this is only his second year, so he’s got a much higher ceiling. i love bob
if you know of any teams that want him and he wants to go to plz plz plz let me know, ill hire a private investigator to find out where holmgren lives and what his personal phone number is so we can relay this information. then you will be voted person of the next decade
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
hahahaha
A team like the Panthers have a low team salary cap because they can’t afford to pay players $26.5 million over four years to backup Jakub Markstrom.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions
also
he doesn’t have a no-trade clause, does he? if not, it wouldn’t matter much where he wants to go. After all, the universe is pretty humangas. I’m sure he can find somewhere he likes
ay carumba…. could we hijack the situation and say look, you’re going to be a backup if you stay here, or we can move you and be a starter?
Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!
they could..but whos gonna take him unless he plays better and then why move him if he plays to his potential
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
I would move him even if he plays to his potential. Geoff proved that unless Bob’s play dips dramatically having an elite goaltender over Bob/Boosh doesn’t make much of a difference – definitely not a 4 million dollar difference (you could get a reliable second pairing defenseman in that)
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 16, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions

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