Helping A Rangers Fan: Details & Updates
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 12, 2012 10:00 AM EST
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PrintBumped to the front page for obviously obvious reasons. - Travis
Continuing what was started in our earlier FanPost, here's a more detailed breakdown of how our effort to do something to reach out to the Rangers fans who were assaulted outside of Geno's Steaks after the Winter Classic last Monday.
The Plan: Currently, the consensus still leans toward getting jerseys and getting them autographed; but other suggestions were given such as tickets to attend another game. Please continue the discussion here regarding how everyone would like to see the final plan play out.
Where we are with the details: Thus far, we have a lead on how to get in contact with both of the victims (as yet unconfirmed, but plausible), and a means of getting any items we acquire signed.
How to contribute: This effort falls under PayPal's acceptable use policy as 'a group of people chipping in to buy someone a gift', so we need to use the process of Sending Money to a Friend. So if you have a PayPal account, click on send money, and then you would send it to my email address, which is DragonGirl0583 AT yahoo.com, the same as the email address in my BSH profile. If you don't have PayPal account and do not want to sign up for it; you can email me (same email address), and I can send you a request link, which will allow you to chip in without a log in.
Contribution deadline: I think a good goal for getting all the contributions submitted would be a week from today, Wednesday January 18th, so that we have time to get the logistics worked out. If you think I should adjust that, let me know, but it seems like a fair starting point.
I will provide a daily update to the total in the fund in the comments below, rather than updating the FanPost. Thank you so, so much to everyone who has already helped out, whether by assisting with the plan or by contributing.
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You guys are incredibly, unbelievably awesome; because in less than 72 hours the total is at $288.52.
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All I did was chip in a few bucks. You’re the awesome one for keeping it all together.
Thank you!
by alaskalovestheflyers on Jan 11, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Fund update 9am 1/13:
I’m flabbergasted at this point; there’s 721.57 in the fund; not counting the payments that are pending. The fact that we’ve done that in 4 days is crazy, but awesomely so.
I emailed a transaction record to Travis, too; because at this point I even feel more comfortable with somebody else knowing how things are going.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Fund update - 10:30 pm 1/16
Sorry I fell off the wagon with giving more frequent updates on the total…. It currently stands at $915.74.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
That’s one Geno’s Cheesesteak every day from now until May 5th.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 17, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Final tally
I intentionally waited to be the last one to chip in, just in case we ended up really close to a milestone number so I could put it over the edge. That’s way it worked out, so our total now is $1,000.15.
So, please contribute to the discussion down at the bottom about finalizing what we’re going to do.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 20, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
For Those Who Say We're Only Doing This Because The Guy Is A Veteran:
Here is VorAbbadon’s original comment which we rallied behind and said, “Let’s do something about this!”
We all agreed that doing something was a good idea. Then, the next day, we found out he was a veteran, after we had already decided to help. Note Don’s response to this second comment.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
It certainly didn’t start that way and was not a reason for the effort. Some people donating or calling attention to it are using it for their personal motivation, but this effort began as human beings helping other human beings. I’m sure each individual has different reasons for calling attention tot his or donating to this, but the root of it was pretty simple; human decency.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Done and done.
Let me know if you need any help with logistics or anything. If we do have extra $$$ I’d recommend putting it towards covering out of pocket medical costs, but that’s just me.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Just wanted to post this here. It’s a draft of a letter to accompany the gift. I know there are a couple others floating out there so it’s not necessarily the official one. I think we should have multiple if everyone wants to write something. But to me this is our motive, it’s not about veteran/cop anything like that.
Dear Mr. Auricchio,
We know that there is no way that we can make up for what happened to you on the night of the Winter Classic. We cannot change that it happened and, though we’re trying to aid in their capture, we cannot personally bring the assailants to justice.
What we are able to do, however, is to show you that those two goons’ lack of class and general humanity is in no way indicative of any fanbase or group that we, or any respectable humans, belong to. To that end we would like to present you and your son with these signed jerseys and our deepest apologies for the actions of two idiots.
In addition to the jerseys we have raised $$$ as a community that we would like to donate to a charity of your choice (OR if we decide to have it cover medical expenses too.)
This letter does not come to you from members of the Broad Street Hockey blog. It does not come to you from fans of the Philadelphia Flyers. It comes to you from people who will not stand for the inhumanity you were shown.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 12, 2012 10:23 AM EST reply actions
This is great. I would just change the last paragraph a little bit:
Do not consider this letter as coming from either the members of the Broad Street Hockey blog or the fans of the Philadelphia Flyers, though many of us belong to both groups. It is more important for us to identify ourselves as members of the hockey community who will not stand for the inhumanity you were shown.
I would mention that to let them know that, at the end of the day, we’re all in this together regardless of what team we root for. And I think it needs to be mentioned thus to combat the constant media narrative that all Philadelphia sports fans are vicious thugs.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Jan 12, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m confused… What’s wrong with saying it’s from the BSH community? I know not everyone who donated is from this community, but it was our community that took VorAbbadon’s idea and made it something real.
by PyropenguinX on Jan 12, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing. The idea is that we’re all members of the hockey community in this case, not “Flyers Fans” vs. “Rangers Fans.” And this support is coming from people who are mostly Flyers fans and BSH members, but more importantly it’s coming from fellow hockey fans.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
So this is going to both guys equally, yeah?
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 12, 2012 10:36 AM EST reply actions
My intention is to ensure both of them are recognized, yes. So if it’s jersey’s they’ll each get one. This might get muddier if and when we start talking about medical expenses, but the friend will definitely be recognized.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
The Rangers are inviting him to a game and honoring him… who knows what they’ll be giving him. It might include jerseys. It might be worth our time to call the Rangers and see what they have planned, so we don’t overlap. What do you guys think? I can make that call for us if we think it’s smart.
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I think that’s a very smart idea. We might be able to switch our plan up based on what the Blueshirts decide. I mean I love jerseys but if they’re getting them already it might seem redundant and unimaginative if we give them jerseys as well.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 12, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
It annoys me that folks keep saying “Him”. There was more then one guy there.
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 12, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s because I don’t remember seeing the injuries sustained to both of them, just serious to one. You’re right though there were two. Father and son.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 12, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Are you sure it was father and son? That never made sense to me. The primary victim id 30 years old, and his son is 3 weeks old (per this article). This article says “family friend.” Either way, both victims should benefit.
Ick, that’s shoots down my theory that no actually one reported that it was a family friend until the other day. Oh well.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm. The first reports I read were father and son.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 12, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
But in the video (which I’m still grateful Travis provided a description so I didn’t have to watch), the second victim wasn’t a kid, and neither victim was really old enough to have a child that wasn’t still a kid.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know that but I was assuming when I first heard it was like 40/18 not like 30/7.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Good idea. No sense in them receiving the same gift from two different people.
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I think calling is a good idea. I said above in the FanPost that I had a ‘lead’ on how to contact the victims but I hadn’t figured out how to confirm its legitimacy; but I think the article about how the Rangers fan are going to honor him may have proven that contact was for real.
Just after we started the effort, less than a day after the first FanPost went up, I got an email from someone who told me that they were related to one of the victims, and would be willing to organize a get-together for some of us to go up there and give them whatever we have in person. They informed me last week that the second victim was actually a good family friend and understood why I found the news reports confusing, and I didn’t see any media outlet report that information until the article about what the Rangers are doing for them.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Given that he needs surgery, and he may be getting things from the Rangers, I really think out of pocket medical costs is becoming more of an option here.
Anyway, let me know if you need help with any of this; besides I need a distraction from wedding planning crap.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I forwarded the email from the family member to Travis for a second opinion; if he thinks it looks legit, I can try asking them about the scope of the problem from that angle. The magnitude of that issue varies greatly from person to person (and insurance company to insurance company, for that matter).
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Donating this evening
There was a weird issue with my balance when I checked online… but that’s sorted out now. Kept me from doing it earlier this week.
Thanks, DG, for all the effort pulling this together. And to everyone else here who organized or contributed in any way.
Letter
I hate to be a dick, but that letter is very poorly written. I appreciate what everyone is trying to accomplish and I’m sure the end result will be very well received, but c’mon man.
Way, too, many, commas.
I hate to be a dick, but you need to figure out how to locate the reply button and then click on it next time.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
BSH Grammar Stats
Kreider’s letter:
Words: @200
Commas: 6
1 comma per 33.3 words.
Your comment:
Words: 39
Commas: 5
1 comma per 7.8 words (or 4.27 times as many commas as the letter).
What, the, hell, man
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 13, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
xamples of Moar bad righting, comma-thick
Dickens, Tale of Two Cities. Opening paragraph. 120 words, 17 commas. 1 comma every 7.05 words.
Tolstoy, War and Peace (English translation). Opening paragraph. 100 words, 13 commas. 1 comma every 7.69 words.
Baldwin, The Fire Next Time. Opening paragraph. 208 words. 12 commas. 1 comma every 17.3 words. Also uses “truculent.”
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 13, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
If you hate to be a dick, then
DON’T BE ONE.
by alaskalovestheflyers on Jan 13, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
For the excess:
Not sure if getting involved with medical bills is a good idea IF it’s not 100% clear cut. Thinking perhaps any excess should go to a Rangers-involved charity. What was that one Boogard supported? Got kids ice-time or something…
Defending The Blue Line. Also fitting since it supports military families who have kids that play hockey.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 17, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
I thought this was in Shanahan’s jurisdiction.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 14, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I've been following this story since it happened
As a Ranger fan I’m proud to see this gesture materialize… It shows a ton of class. Whatever the gift, it doesn’t matter. It’s important that everyone know Philadelphia is better than the actions of an awful few. The significance is two-fold; to reach out to Mr. Aurrichio and also make the statement that violence towards fans anywhere isn’t welcome.
What a contrast it will be when compared to ignorant statements like… “ran their mouths” and “wearing wrong jersey in Philly” found on other websites. Thank you for countering those who’d like to blame the victim and excuse what happened outside of Geno’s.There is no excuse. Flyer fans should wear their jerseys in ny, just as ranger fans should wear theirs in Philly. The US population is more transient than ever. Jerseys are readily available and will be increasingly worn at opposing team venues as time goes on. So to those who say, don’t wear them in other cities, I say get over yourselves.
And I say to everyone on this thread and on bsh, don’t be humble. Make it known that it was here that true Flyer fans were disgusted by what happened after the Winter Classic. Make sure everyone in the media knows you were the first to call bs. It will do a ton to move forward and impress on more than just Flyers/Rangers fan relations, but hockey and other sports.
Good luck and thanks again.
Calmer than you are.
UPDATE from my end
So I’ve tried getting in contact with the Rangers — a few phone calls, an email or two. It’s just a game of phone tag basically at this point. Hopefully I know more tomorrow and can actually get in touch with a human who can help.
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Alright, heard from the Rangers. They don’t have any plans as of yet beyond having them attend a game/meet the team and Tortorella, but that could change.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 18, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Okay. Thanks, Travis.
So folks, what do we want to do? Let’s start thinking about a decision.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
If they weren’t planning on giving them jerseys, I can see that being the first choice. If Travis can get them sent to the Rangers? It could even be signed and presented to them when they get to the game?
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
In my personal opinion, I think that if the if the Rangers physically present it to them before the game, the gesture that it’s from us and we raised the money to do it will get lost. I know it wouldn’t be convenient for most people to go, but if the family members’ offer to arrange a get together for us to meet the two Rangers fans in person actually came to fruition, I think it would be more meaningful to have them set that up. It’s less than 90 minutes from me, so even if only like two of us could make it up there, it stops us from being faceless fans who put something in the mail, and we become real people who can actually show them that we’re not all bad. Plus if they were to ask us about it, we be able to talk about how we reacted to the incident and the overwhelming response to how this all came together.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 19, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sure we could get people up there to do that (it’s not like I ever need much of an excuse to go to a game), the problem is, could we get the jerseys and sigs in time?
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
It depends on whether or not we want to somehow do it in conjunction with the actual game where the Rangers are doing something. The family members’ original offer to me was made before the Rangers’ plans were announced, and it was to schedule a get-together for any of us who want to go up there with the two fans and their family to meet them face to face; I assume it would happen at a restaurant or something. I’m not sure that there was a strict deadline on that offer, as my original response indicated that it would take us a little while to get things together and make our decisions before we planned anything with them.
According to the article I saw, the Rangers are scheduled to honor them on the 27th of February, which is a Monday night, and he’s scheduled to meet the team after the game. That would make it somewhat difficult for us to try to go up there that same night, but maybe not impossible.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 19, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think the meet up is easiest for us for sure. I was just talking to the whole in conjunction with the Rangers idea. I think we can get at least one member of BSH up to the game. If we decide to do that I can check in to getting a deal on tickets, I may or may not have a connection for tickets to Rangers games at MSG. So just give me a heads up via email or on here if we decide to go that route and I can look in to it.
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Are you going to be at the game tonight? If you are and you’ll be in your usual spot at warmups, we could chat about it in person for a few minutes if you want to.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 19, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
1. Agree getting them Jerseys is great, if the Rangers aren’t doing that. But how to get them autographed?
2. If the family is still interested in having BSH folks meet them somewhere, we could get the Jerseys to them at that event, and let the guys collect autographs after the Rangers game on the 27th? (When I say “we” it’s in a communal kind of way, as I personally can’t attend a meetup.)
3. As to the extra money, I heartily support a donation to Defending The Blueline.
by Georgia_Flyer on Jan 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and....
…if we get them Jerseys, what numbers/names to put on them?
Blank?
Richards?
Lundquist?
Callahan?
Girardi?
Del Zotto?
by Georgia_Flyer on Jan 20, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
If we can make out who was on their old jerseys, I’d go for that. The rest of the $ to Defending the Blueline, or even all of it if the Rangers end up giving them jerseys, would be very acceptable to me.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
#1. We play the Rangers again on the 5th away. Anyone know someone with the team that could possible walk across the hallway to get this done? That way we could just present them with jerseys already signed.
- I wish I could participate in this… unfortunately I’m in Chicago.
#3. Defending the Blueline is a great idea.
by PyropenguinX on Jan 20, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120119_Defendant_makes_higher_bail_in_hockey-fan_beating.html
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And BOY does it feel good. As much as I hate the Blueshirts, this is about humanity. I’ve been in altercations at away sporting events (Eagles Skins, this year actually), and it’s no fun. I was not sent to the hospital, nor was I afflicted with any serious injuries. Here’s hoping that we surprise them and show them the class that some (most?) Philly fans really do have.
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"How Do We Get The Jerseys Autographed?"
I mentioned this in the original thread, and will do so again here.
I was in touch with Peter Luukko’s assistant. She said that if we get the jerseys, we should send them to her. They have contacts with the Rangers who can get the jerseys autographed.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
This was mentioned in one if the threads on this ordeal
I liked the idea of getting them tickets to a the next Rangers game in Philly. Especially if some people here could join and possibly act as “hosts” to help give them a better experience in Philly and show that those douche bags don’t represent all Flyers fans.
Of course, I could understand if they wouldn’t want to come back to Philly after what happened, so this might not be the best plan. Anyone else have thoughts on this? With the money raised, I’d think we could get them both a jersey AND some pretty nice tickets.
Originally you were going to be taking contributions until Jan 18. I haven’t had the opportunity yet to donate…can I still send money?
Sure, go ahead. We just needed to get a total to work with, that was all.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 22, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Ranger fan checking in
Nice going guys, your doing a great job. Very classy.
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