Philadelphia Flyers All-Stars 2012: Giroux, Timonen, Read, Couturier headed to Ottawa; Hartnell, not
by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2012 12:59 PM EST
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Claude Giroux and Kimmo Timonen are among the 36 NHL veterans named to the 2012 All-Star Game today by the league. Rookies Matt Read and Sean Couturier were among the 12 rookies named to the team as well, giving the Philadelphia Flyers a total of four representatives in Ottawa. All-Star Weekend kicks off Friday, January 27th.
The Flyers have more representatives at the game this year than any team in the league that's not hosting the game, with four. Ottawa has five, Vancouver also has four, and everybody else is extremely inferior.
Not heading to Ottawa will be Scott Hartnell, who some might call a snub. It's hard to judge that without seeing the full list of All-Stars, which is set to be released shortly. Here's the full list. Would you call Hartnell a snub?
Will Timonen actually be going to the game? After Saturday's game at the Wells Fargo Center, Timonen said he wasn't sure about it. He said he'd have to think about it when the time got here.
*deep breath* Um, I don't know. It's hard to say. You know, obviously, it's hard to say no if you're chosen, but it's one of those things, if you've got a little injury, it's time to heal your injuries that time. When that time comes, I'm going to really take a look at it, the situation.
We'll see what he decides.
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I know the Flyers said Kimmo...
But he’s not on this page
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
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Yep, just saw it.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
I really enjoyed watching the little draft thing they had last year and I like this All Star set up way more than previous versions (East-West, N. America-World). Maybe Orange Jesus or the Finnish God of Defense will be named a captain/alternate.
As for Hartsy. It’s hard to replace anyone on that roster with him. But I could see him over Logan Couture and even Ovi, since Ovi is having a very down year in his terms.
Timo should go, but I don’t think he should play. I don’t think anyone should play in it actually :P
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Pretty sure Kimmo won't go
still an honor. He said in an earlier interview on CSN how he hoped some younger guys would go as it’s really not for older guys like himself. I think he’d rather rest.
Definately wanted to see Hartsy go. That’s a shame.
Rookies are fucking underused in these things. I used to really like the Freshman vs Sophomore game and the rookie game. Now we’re lucky if Read gets to pass to Stamkos in one of the skills comps.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
The 3 on 3 game in Atlanta was a blast to watch. Really enjoyable.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Exactly. It’s so much fun to watch shit like that. I want that and not them passing cross ice over a small barrier or between two pylons or shit like that.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 12, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I also don’t like the new draft system because as meaningless as it is, I like to care at least a tiny bit about the outcome of the game haha.
FWIW, I enjoyed going to the All Star weekend so much more than I enjoyed going to all the events at the Winter Classic; though the Phantoms game with the fireworks made it a lot closer than it would have been without it. I’m amazed it gets shit on as much as it does. I mean from a watching on TV POV I get it, but it’s a fantastic event to attend.
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How about a draft system where you draft by team.
“I’ll take all the Blackhawks.”
“OK, I’ll take all the Red Wings.”
Then the fans have a clear a rooting interest, but it still keeps the entertainment value of deciding who you would want most.
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That would be a nightmare trying to get an equal number of players on each team though, and that’s before even considering line combinations.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 12, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously. This is a bit tongue and cheek.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Scott Hartnell is 28th in the league in scoring (by way of comparison, fellow All-Star-skip Kris Versteeg is 21st, Jordan Eberle is 10th, and Nic Backstrom is 15th). Hartnell is 14th in goals (James Neal is 6th and not going). He’s tied for 65th in assists.
Sorry, homers – Hartnell doesn’t deserve a trip to the All-star rodeo. Is he having a career year? Sure. Does that make him one of the league’s elite? Hell no.
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Well if you’re really going to make those comparisons then don’t just show the numbers that bolster your point. Include the stats for all-stars that are below Hartnell’s. Hartnell definitely deserves to be there, as does James Neal. I could be wrong, but it appears that you’re saying "Neal has done “x” and he’s not in the game so why should Hartsy?"
Hartnell is having a career year, nearly 1ppg, and is still a physical presence while rocking a team high +19. All around, he’s having a better year than many of the players chosen to participate.
Jagr shoots, Jagr scores!!!!!!
by Vinny A on Jan 12, 2012 2:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Problem is, the league has a rule that at least one player per team MUST attend. And with only so many roster spots … Hartnell doesn’t go. Nor do his stats or performance justify it. I’d rank several players (Versteeg and Neal for sure) ahead of Hartnell as deserving of a roster spot at this year’s All-Stars. Once you take the rankings for each player regardless of team, pick the top-ranked player from each team (so 30 players), add the fan favorites (evidently Senators this year, so that’s another couple roster slots), and then start filling the remaining roster spots from your team-irrespective list …
There’s 24 forward slots open. If we assume that all of the goalies and defensemen are ‘the best player on a bad team’ All-stars, that’s 18 teams accounted for already. Therefore there are another 12 teams that need to represented in the forwards, leaving only an additional 12 forwards to be picked from the ‘best of the rest’ from the whole league. Another couple were lost in the fan voting … I don’t see Hartnell being in the top 24 forwards league-wide regardless - which would mean there’s no way he goes to the All-Star game except with a purchased ticket.
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by MaximumTalbot on Jan 12, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Which of the following would Hartnell replace? (* denotes sole team representative, and therefore cannot be removed)
Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks *
Tyler Seguin, Boston Bruins (38 points in 38 games, +33)
Jason Pominville, Buffalo Sabres (43 points in 42 games, -2)
Jarome Iginla, Calgary Flames *
Marian Hossa, Chicago Blackhawks (45 points in 42 games, +23)
Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks (38 points in 43 games, +5)
Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks (42 points in 43 games, +12)
Jamie Benn, Dallas Stars *
Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings (43 points in 41 games, +16)
Mikko Koivu, Minnesota Wild *
John Tavares, New York Islanders *
Marian Gaborik, New York Rangers (34 points in 40 games, +10)
Claude Giroux, Philadelphia Flyers (48 points in 37 games, +5)
Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins *
Logan Couture, San Jose Sharks *
Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning *
Phil Kessel, Toronto Maple Leafs (48 points in 42 games, +6)
Joffrey Lupul, Toronto Maple Leafs (47 points in 42 games, +8)
Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks (47 points in 43 games, +13)
Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks (50 points in 44 games, +13)
Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals (33 points in 41 games, -8)
For comparison, Floppa is 37 points in 41 games, with a +19. So you could argue he is doing “better” than Gaborik, Kane, and Ovechkin … but seriously, do you think they’d have an All-star game and skip those three??? I don’t.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Jan 12, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well if you’re just using points & +- to determine who should be there you can look right at that list and replace gaborik or ovi. I know it’s an all-STAR game but if we’re debating on the interest of skill then Hartnell certainly deserves to be there. I mean the guy has 37 points, 86 hits which is high for someone who scores so much and has 17.6% shot accuracy. What more does he need to do in your opinion to be an all-star?
Jagr shoots, Jagr scores!!!!!!
by Vinny A on Jan 12, 2012 8:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Not fall down several times per game.
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by MaximumTalbot on Jan 13, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Hartnell’s played great, but like you said, he’s clearly not elite.
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by philiafan14364 on Jan 12, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’m suprised Selanne isn’t there. I thought he’d be a captain, along with Alfredsson.
Posting all the way from sunny Manchester, England.
The league might have been thinking that way, but Selanne didn’t agree to go to the game. NHL.com had a article saying he was offered to go, but asked them to take Cory Perry instead, because a) he’s had plenty of turns and 2) Perry is the reigning MVP and Selanne felt he should be part of it. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=611434
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
How do you do that? I can’t figure it out.
Bryz has low self esteem
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
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by hintzy64 on Jan 12, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You shoulda put the sarcasm font around that.
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by MaximumTalbot on Jan 12, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
I want a ton of Flyers/Phillies/Sixers players to get elected to the all-star game, but I don’t want a single one of them actually playing in it.
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I want none of them selected. It has no impact on their performance or the team’s performance, and I assume it drives up the price in future contract negotiations if a guy has gotten league-wide honors.
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It certainly does in MLB’s case. Factors into their HoF chances, too, for some dumb reason. All Star Games are mostly BS, but I still enjoy them for whatever reason.
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Factors into their HoF chances, too, for some dumb reason.
That’s because, generally speaking, baseball writers are bumbling idiots.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, you mean “traditionalists?”
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
What did you expect? “Welcome, sonny”? “Make yourself at home”? “Marry my daughter”? You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.
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Not Surprised...
That Hartnell didn’t get the call…he’s been having a great season but really, I see the All-Star game as nothing more than a popularity contest that’s not usually based solely on the performance of a player. There are players who belong there but then there are others (like Ovechkin) who haven’t performed up to snuff THIS season and still get voted in. Players should be voted in based on how well they’ve performed during the current season, and not just by the name they carry. I know this is just a pipe dream but I can dream, can’t I?
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