Friday Morning Fly By: The Internet Will Forever Put Ilya Bryzgalov and Rick DiPietro Together
by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 6:00 AM EST
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Recaps: [BSH] [Lighthouse Hockey] [CSNPhilly] [Philly Sports Daily] [Inquirer] [delcotimes.com] [Daily News] [The700Level] [Flyers Faithful] [The Checking Line] [Bill Meltzer]
- Maxime Talbot took a high hit from Steve Staios and was described as "dazed" and "displeased" after the game: [In The Room] [CSNPhilly] [Backhand Shelf]
- Sergei Bobrovsky is your "hot hand" right now: [Broad Street Bull]
- John Boruk wrote a story, but the best part is the headline - "Bryzgalov, DiPietro exemplify contract risks": [CSNPhilly]
- CSN cameras caught Jaromir Jagr, um, massaging himself on the bench: [The700level.com]
- Flyers at the midpoint: [The700Level.com] [The Checking Line]
- An awesome letter Peter Laviolette wrote to Islanders season ticket holders upon his hiring in 2001: [Tumblr]
- John Miller goes trolling in his "Bryzgalov is mentally weak" piece, but man, he's really good at it. "The media isn’t nearly as tough as people think – I’m pretty sure CSN stands for "Cheerleader Sports Network"" OH SNAP: [Philly Sports Daily]
- Examining the relationship between Toronto and Philadelphia as it applies to trades: [Frequent Flyers]
- Speaking of trades, in case you missed my shameless FanShot or Tim Panaccio's tweet directing you to read my story, here's a look at what it costs to acquire a defenseman via trade: [SB Nation Philly]
- Why is fighting on the decline in the NHL? [Puck Daddy] Is it because of better minor leaguers? [Backhand Shelf]
- The All-Star Game fan vote isn't broken. It's actually working exactly as it should: [SBNation.com]
- Great news: Philly police have issued an arrest warrant for one of the two assailants in the Geno's attack: [Puck Daddy]
- The Rangers have been asked to put Sean Avery on re-entry waivers by other teams, but the Rangers would rather trade him to a team who has cap space but little dollars in exchange to taking a high-salaried player they can stash in the minors. Glen Sather is getting smarter: [Puck Daddy]
- What's the difference in scoring talent for players on each of the four lines? [Arctic Ice Hockey]
- LOLCanadiens. In the middle of their game last night, the team yanked Mike Cammalleri out of action, put him in a cab, and sent him to a hotel. The team was not going back to the hotel after the game. He was traded: [SBNation.com] [Matchsticks and Gasoline] [Habs Eyes On The Prize] [Puck Daddy]
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Holy shit....
That Cammalleri story is insane. My dad told me how Moose DuPont became flyer on a road game in st.louis, his team at the time, and when he was going to the locker room A couple flyers players said to him his equipment was set up in their locker room. But to take a guy out of a game and ship him off is just insane. truth is stranger then fiction.
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Not sure about a precedent for this in hockey, but this is what happened when Pence was traded to the Phillies. The Astros took him out in the middle of a game and he was on his way to Philly.
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7/29/2304540/hunter-pence-trade-houston-astros-philadelphia-phillies
"That was a lot of fun. We don't go to jail, we beat up their chicken forwards, we score ten goals, and we win. And now the Moose drinks beer." -Andre "Moose" Dupont
I’ve seen it in baseball many times, but I’ve never seen it in hockey (not mid-game, anyway). There doesn’t seem to be a real reason to; according to the league bylaws (at least, the copy I have which doesn’t include the additional appendices and resolutions that have been tacked on over the years), a transaction occurring outside regular business hours only becomes official when both teams have called in to the 24 hour line to leave a message, and both teams are responsible for the players salaries yesterday because the daily cap calculation occurs at 5pm New York time. I’m trying to figure out why it was so important that they wanted to get it in before the Calgary/Anaheim game started. Neither team plays today, so giving the players notice and getting them to report to the new team in time doesn’t seem like a huge concern either. There has to be more information that I don’t have.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Thats…. Kind of odd actually.
So if the Devs and Flyers are playing back to back games, and midway through the game, Simmonds is traded for Zajac, The Flyers would have been paying Zajac to play against them?
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Technically if it happened midgame, they’d both have to stop playing…
50.9 Issues Relating to Timing and Calculation of Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary.
(a) 5:00 p.m. Daily Deadline for Counting in Actual and Averaged Club
Salary.
(i) For any Player who is on a Club’s Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster or Non Roster pursuant to an approved and registered SPC at 5:00 p.m. New York time on a particular day during a League Year, such Player shall receive his Player Salary and Bonuses for that day, and such Player Salary and Bonuses shall be included in the calculation of the Club’s Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary for that day.
(ii) In the event that an SPC is approved and registered after 5:00 p.m.
New York time on a particular day during a League Year, the Player that is party to such SPC shall then be eligible to commence receiving Player Salary and Bonuses in accordance with the terms of the SPC from that Club –and such Player Salary and Bonuses shall be included in the Club’s Actual Club Salary and Averaged
Club Salary –beginning at 5:00 p.m. New York time on the following day.
(iii) Any Player who is not on a Club’s Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster or Non Roster pursuant to an approved and registered SPC at 5:00 p.m. New York time on a particular day during a League Year shall be ineligible to play for such Club on that day, and such Player shall be ineligible to receive Player Salary and Bonuses from that Club for that day.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
In other words, if it’s 8 o clock at night Simmonds and Zajac were traded at the end of the second period, they both were paid already paid by their previous clubs that day, and are not eligible to play for their new club until the following day.
So what is the point of making the phone calls to the central registry then, instead of waiting half an hour until the game is over? There was no way Cammalleri or Bourque could have physically reported to their new clubs until the following day, and neither team even plays today. So since Montreal had already paid Cammalleri for that day, why pull the trigger on the trade without letting just him play the third period of a close game against a hated rival?
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Well there is always the possibility of getting injured in that game which is why players are scratched before or taken out like Hunter Pence was.
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
True. But to have it happen in hockey is really strange. I mean, in baseball at least you have a couple of extra guys on the bench to fill in; in hockey if you make this decision midgame, you shorten your bench and tire other guys out. It would have been better for them to scratch Camalleri before the game, and cite it as punishment for his mouthing off, if they felt the trade was imminent.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I read last night that they are trying to spin their view that they “had the trade in works for weeks,” which I hope nobody is believing.
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t believe that at all, but I would think they might have an inkling they were close an hour earlier before the game started and they could still make changes to the lineup card. Obviously I’ll never know for sure.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
i heard from my dad the flyers once traded somebody from their team to the team they were playing that night….like in the first period he was a flyer and in the second he was playing against the flyers in the other teams jersey…prob just a hockey legend…like manbearpig
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It’s possible that it may have happened at some point; just not under the current collective bargaining agreement ;)
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently it was Moose
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not legend from what my dad said.
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by MJDII on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Indiana Jones had one
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Is everyone hungover this morning? I mean chem and f2lyer8 have an excuse but for the rest of you.
I gonna say it. Bob is the starter until he hits some sort of a skid. How you can’t reward that kid after that game last night would be criminal. When we complain about goaltending and expectations it is because rarely it seems we can look in the mirror and say without a doubt a goaltender single handedly won a game. That did happened last night. That was what people when they want better.
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Random rant:
Bob’s block and glove don’t match his pads and that bothers me.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions
But his face mask is dynamite and has to account for some of his play.
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haha, his mask is awesome. But any boost he got from looking good in the mask is countered by looking bad in mismatched equipment.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
speaking of boost wheres ben …can you imagine if he could rothenboost bob…kid would go on a shutout streak…plus hed have the holy grail of flyers interviews if bob actually spoke
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
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It bothers me that he didn’t wear the “classic” leg pads at the Winter Classic, but is wearing them now. They look damn cool though, but I’d love to see the old school brown blocker and glove with them.
Agreed
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I’d like to see him complete the set. I’d also like to see Bob and Bryz wear the “retro” pads next season as well.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I’d like to see Bob and Bryz trade sweaters and see if people could tell the difference from a stat sheet perspective
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Someone last night said it takes longer to adjust to new gloves.
The way he played last night and that second beautiful awesome save on Grabner, I don’t think we’re going to see Bob change his glove just yet.
"I will not risk answering your question" Why we love Bob
And yes, I am a female redhead.
While I’m not taking anything away from the athletic nature of Bob flopping to get anything in front of Grabner’s shot…
The fact remains Grabner shot it directly into Bob’s glove. His glove never moved from the moment he extended it in desperation before the shot came.
It was athletic, but not spectacular, IMHO. That puck didn’t go where Grabner wanted it.
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If he’s winning with it, it doesn’t bother me. Though it does really bother me.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I was going to internet smack you if you stopped at “if he’s winning”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think I’ve ever been internet smacked.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Goalies are head cases, as we all know. My theory is that he saw the love fest for Bernie at the Alumni Game and thought the retro pads looked cool, and while he was comfortable moving to new leg pads, he was not comfortable switching the glove and blocker as they’re likely well worn in for him and he’s had quite a bit of luck with them.
"That was a lot of fun. We don't go to jail, we beat up their chicken forwards, we score ten goals, and we win. And now the Moose drinks beer." -Andre "Moose" Dupont
I remember reading a story a few years back of a high school kid who patented a pad design that made the pads look like the net. Hell, if it fools one guy a game, it’s an edge.
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
The black jersey doesn’t really help much. Maybe put “Super Pretzel” across the pads?
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/Flyers-trade-not-iminent.html?cmpid=131298059
Apparently ‘Frequent Flyers’ is a credibel source for Frannie.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
Man...
How cool would it have been to get John Michael Liles for a 2nd rounder?
Or even Stewart and Shattenkirk for Matt Carle?
Homer, hit up the Avs GM, pleease.
by kckrebs on Jan 13, 2012 9:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The way I see it, trading for good blueliners is like trading for a 3rd basemen, 2nd basemen or a SS. They are hockey plutonium and your gonna pay. As such you should be wary of trading out of need for them because your starting with compromised leverage. Is this season to takes such gambles? I don’t believe so unless it’s common for teams to do core rebuilds, aquire youth and depend them when their true talent level has yet to materialize, and lose, not only the team’s best d-man but one of the league’s best defednders. Oh and most likely will have to get thru the Bruins to win the Cup.
Yeah, if Holmgren can get Cthulhu, then I’d say it’s possible.
I’d be completely fine with this team if it seemed like someone was trying to repair the turnovers, especially in the third period. But it seems the opposite is true; it looks like there is no concern with the 3rd period play
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
To be honest, I was pretty doubtful of this team’s chances before Pronger was lost for the season. Even with Pronger I felt that they would need more than just the typical good fortune Cup winning teams have.
I’d put it differently: they aren’t the most talented team in the conference, so they’ll need a good bit of luck in the playoffs, with or without another stud D-man in the lineup.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Every time needs luck and the most talented team doesn’t always win the cup.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
Right, this team has a chance at a cup. I believe that. I don’t think that another D-man substantially increases the likelihood, or that this team has a higher likelihood than past teams so as to warrant a trade focused on this year.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Trading for Suter, Schenn or Weber or any other name mentioned is certainly not a trade focused on this year.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
Without knowing that status of Pronger, it definitely would be. For Suter, a UFA in the summer, it definitely would be. Those are my only points here. (I also don’t think Weber is going anywhere.)
However, I generally agree with the premise, that these D-men could improve this team long term. However, if the trade is not for this year, there’s a lot of consequences to evaluate regarding their effect on the organization besides the addition of their talent (who we lose, the contract costs, cap concerns, etc).
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Unfortunately I think in it is the organization’s best interest to write Pronger off for next season. I love Pronger but the FO will put next year in jeopardy hoping he will return, similar to the Primeau situation.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
And the Forsberg foot situation. They have hoped and got burned in the past and shouldn’t let that happen again.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
and if he does miraculously recover next season?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
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a) he can’t be on LTIR if he’s actually recovered
b) that’s not the worst case at all; the worst case is that the new CBA changes the LTIR/35+ rules and the team can’t hide his cap hit by LTIRing him.
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Any change in the rules like that will be accompanied by an amnesty buyout
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
I love sweeping declarations of absolute certainty about future events whose course we have absolutely no insight into.
Yes, such a change might not happen, or might come with an amnesty buyout. But we don’t know, and what you think or hope will happen clearly isn’t the worst case scenario.
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by Eric T. on Jan 13, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
There is no way the CBA will passes that will change the rules that can have a dramatic effect on how past signings effect the cap without allowing teams to take back those signings or simply not have previous 35+ contracts be exempt from the new CBA rules. A grandfather clause.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
I don’t see how you can be so certain.
Perma-LTIR seems to be a reasonably common way to circumvent the intent of the CBA to put teams on the hook for the entirety of a 35+ contract. The new negotiations could decide to close that loophole and hold teams accountable to the intended rules without offering them a grandfather clause for circumventions already in progress.
I’m not saying it’ll go that way, or even that it’s likely to, but it’s certainly a possibility. I don’t see how you can say with certainty that it won’t.
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With the clout Mr. Snider has… I don’t think either of us see that happening.
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I can see the LTIR thing changing but in the case of concussions I don’t see the league pressing the issue of rushing to get him cleared to play just so he can count on the cap. If it was a broken leg for example that will have a clear end to the injury I can that being changed by post concussion syndrome only the player can say when he is ready and that can be used to circumvent the cap if need be
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
It’s not about concussions, though.
It’s about players retiring, period.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Your statement was that the worst case was that Pronger would get an LTIR exemption all year and then be activated for the playoffs.
That sounds like pretty much the best case scenario to me, short of him recovering to full health this year. That’s my dispute: I think you misunderstand the definition of “worst case”. “Worst case” requires a pessimistic outlook, and you are applying an optimistic viewpoint to your evaluations.
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I thought the best case was that he got better. =/
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds like pretty much the best case scenario to me, short of him recovering to full health this year.
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I love sweeping declarations of absolute certainty about future events whose course we have absolutely no insight into. Yes, such a change might not happen, or might come with an amnesty buyout. But we don’t know, and what you think or hope will happen clearly isn’t the worst case scenario.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
odds are though someone else with a hefty contract gets hurt and Kimmo is up at the end of next year if you trade JVR that contract is gone Jagr is might retire cap could go up there a million of unknowns that could remedy that situation of the IF Pronger can return but there isn’t a single solution beyond acquiring another D-Man that can fix the more likely scenario that Pronger won’t return.
Talbot 5 Nodl 0 11/7/2011
I’d be completely fine with this team if it seemed like someone was trying to repair the turnovers, especially in the third period.
Correct only the mistakes I pay most attention to, please!
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
if you want me to list where i think Lavvy is inadequate, please just ask
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
this was at the top of my list because i feel it affects games the most.
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
We agree that turnovers are an issue, and maybe this team’s most pressing. We disagree that those turnovers that happen to be in the third period matter more than others.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
lol it’s just one of those things that even though the Flyers won last night’s game, it was a terrible team performance with the exception of the guy between the pipes. I hate this feeling. It’s a horrible feeling to have when one looks at potential playoff scenarios
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Correction, 5th sentence.
I don’t believe so unless it’s common for teams to do core rebuilds, aquire youth and depend them when their true talent level has yet to materialize, and lose, not only the team’s best d-man but one of the league’s best defednders and still win the Cup
I can’t even pronounce that name.
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Destroyer of Worlds, Lord of the Abyss, that kind of thing
Absolutely detests the Red Wings for that tradition of cephalopod abuse (octopus tossing).
what is he from?..some movie or something?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
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Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
H.P. Lovecraft books I believe.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Also is the basis for the best Metallica song ever written!
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by Lindbergh 31 on Jan 13, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
More Lovecraft inspired music
Samael – Rite of Cthulhu. Death metal.
Therion – Cthulhu. Death metal. This song totally shreds.
ALKO – Samples from the album Beyond Madness. Dark ambient/industrial
Vanished Empire – Mindless Outer God and Temple of R’lyeh . Japanese dark caberet / industrial band. More proof that the Japanese are aliens.
Cyaegha – Epiphany of R’lyeh. experimental death metal
Seal of R’lyeh – Celephais and The Strange High House In The Mist. Dark ambient
Cthulhu – The Shadow Out of Time. Lo-fi / noise rock. Thurston Moore and Lou Barlow go to R’lyeh.
Kth – huu-lu.
Just say hulu, and at a KTH. Duh.
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, if Holmgren can get Cthulhu, then I’d say it’s possible.
Hey, j, you spelled "Chara" wrong. Just saying.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
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Trying to drum up some traffic, huh? I know you are competitive by nature. How’s life in nowhere treating you?
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hahahaha
It’s…alright. I mean, I love the weather, I can play golf 11 months a year, and I have a job. I just miss being somewhere where people talk about hockey and where I have friends. I’m new here, but everyone down here is married by 25 and they don’t seem to go out. It’s just odd. Now it’s busy season though, I’m sure it’ll get better in the summer.
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I thought about asking if you were going to the Flyers-’Canes game on Tuesday but then was distracted and never visited the FlyBy again. I met lots of people on meetup.com!
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It’s like a 2.5 hour drive though, so I had to use vacation time to go. If it weren’t busy season I could have just gone and worked more hours later in the week, but I work 8-8 pretty much every day and Saturday now. If it had been later in the season I wouldn’t have been able to go. Can’t wait till this is over.
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Whos your boss, Lumbergh? Umm yea plan to come in Saturday yea.
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by MJDII on Jan 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, I’ve driven through Charlotte… I’m glad that you could still go to the game, even though you had to take vacation time.
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Really it’s a Win Win. You both still went to the game and you were saved from him hitting on you all night after you met up. :-) Kidding Pardini
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So when I’m following the game threads on my phone, none of the links work to get to the 2nd and 3rd period threads. Is anybody else having this problem?
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions
They don’t have FanShots in the app. I believe it’s something they’re working on.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Oh Jaromir.....
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I love how Hartsy pushes his water bottle far out and then brings it closer to his mouth.
Bryz has low self esteem
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I love how Jagr stops as soon as Hartsy looks at him.
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by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
i love how you know hartsy was looking the whole time out of the corner of his eye but thought,“crap hes a hall of famer im not gonna say it”
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“Show some respect!”
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by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Also, In this gif his water bottle appears silver , but in this one, it appears green.
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yes you’ve heard of it? I had to watch one for class, and I’m sick so my social life is about a zero right now (this is my fourth day of not talking). Sadly I have been watching TED for like…2 hours…
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by Cillo stache on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Cillo, since you are still in school, you might find this interesting
/Shoutout to f2yers8 on this too
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
And this one is even more interesting in that topic.
(Non-educators check this one out first).
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
So according to your story Geoff JVR and a pick could land Suter or Weber ? Top 6 Forward and Draft pick through in a Phantom D-man for good measure.
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Nashville doesn’t want a Phantom d-man since they have so many already, so I’d expect Suter or Weber to cost JVR, 1st rd. pick, and Voracek/Simmonds/Read.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
That is too much I don’t see them getting two top 6 forwards under the age of 25 and a 1st rounder for Free-Agents to be.
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If we can extend Weber, done. Not sure whom of the three I would give up…from a hockey sense Simmonds as he’s the least talented, but I love him as a Flyer. Probably Read. Voracek is so young and has the talent, he just needs to put it together. Leaving CBJ has to have helped.
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I agree, it’s too much. But Ballard (27) and Burns (26) both netted a 1st round pick, a 25 or younger, three-time 15/20 goal scorers, and a former first round pick.
And Suter/Weber are better than Ballard and Burns.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
But both of those guys were under contract, no? Suter is nearing free agency. Perhaps a comparison could be found with…. Kovalchuk? (Or other stars heading towards the end of their contracts.) It didn’t cost that much to get him out of Atlanta when it was clear he would walk for nothing.
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Brent Burns had one year left on his contract, but yes. Both were under contract, which is different.
I don’t like the Kovalchuk analogy though, since a) Atlanta wasn’t going to make the playoffs and knew it; b) The entire NHL knew Atlanta couldn’t afford Kovalchuk; c) Not many people wanted Kovalchuk; and d) Defensemen are a lot harder to find than wingers.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t think of any other similar cases offhand. Any other of these pending UFA ‘rentals’ happened lately? For stars, for defensemen?
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what about the pronger trade?
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he wasnt a rental but wasnt he in his last year when we got him?
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I think he had a year left, yeah.
It does make a big difference, though, the contract situation. If Suter was under contract (Or, if he does indeed go ahead and re-sign), we wouldn’t be having these discussions, because he wouldn’t be realistically available. 1st+JVR+Voracek? Maybe if he was locked up, that would be the price to pry him away. But It just seems way, way, way too much for a guy that could potentially walk again in a few months. The closest recent comparison – trade deadline move for a pending UFA defenseman – is maybe Tomas Kaberle? 1st,2nd (Both picks late in the round, and the 2nd conditional to Kaberle re-signing) and a guy called Joe Colborne (2008 1st round pick who hadn’t played in the NHL and wasn’t doing a lot in AHL). Suter is younger, and better…But still, I don’t think Nashville have anywhere near enough leverage to get us to give up JvR if Suter is going to walk. 1st, Conditional 2nd and Voracek maybe. Depends on who else is shopping.
Posting all the way from sunny Manchester, England.
so I’d expect Suter or Weber to cost JVR, 1st rd. pick, and Voracek/Simmonds/Read.
Check out my bloat post on the Suter fanshot Geoff created.
Short version: This would be MINIMUM for Weber. Maybe slightly less for Suter, but he’s a rental.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Umm…anyone see this?
I don’t really want to give it the pageviews, but I know nothing of the Philadelphia Sun or Tim Ronaldson, and am kind of curious about the Philly reaction to this. Is it worth even being angry about?
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I’ve never heard of it, and personally I wouldn’t see that as any legitimate.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
That’s what I figured, but better to check with the actually informed people.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I think I may have to be angry at you for sabotaging my IQ that way. I dropped a couple of points reading that.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I’m not happy about having to link it at all, but no other real way to find out the reaction, unfortunately.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Well, as far as that goes, it just looked like an article from someone who’s a completely irrational hater. But that’s just my perspective.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
His underlying point is valid if all the bias and angry did not get in the way.
This could inspire Rangers fan to start trouble, goad opposing fans into a fight and Martyr themselves for a chance to get locker room access etc. etc.. Unlikely scenario but some crazy fan might try it.
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He’s got a point, but… Yeah.
I mean, either the Rags are giving the guy tickets for getting his ass kicked, or they’re giving him tickets for getting loud in a very volatile situation.
Neither message is a particularly pleasant one to send.
It’s why the message this community is sending is probably the best one that can be sent. We’re the only ones who can take a smidge of responsibility without being the actual douchebags throwing the punches, and we’re sending off something nice for the two guys.
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by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Is it worth even being angry about?
No.
A. Everyone has a printing press now.
B. He does tell us in the first paragraph that he’s pathetic.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
GRRR! I no longer consider it my fault when people refuse to proof read the shit I produce. if you don’t want to look it the fuck over then you can’t get mad at me for it. I cannot be the first last and only line of defense against typos.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions
Alright. Jokes out of nowhere are one thing but if I’m seriously pissed off you think that’s the best thing to do? Pull your head out of your ass, J.
Where’s your next fanpost? Where’s your next fanpost?
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
what pardini just turned kreider into
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Can’t see it, dude.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
see this always happens..i hit preview and i see it but no 1 else can
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take 2
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now krieder is chasing pardini
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I was assuming this is about non-BSH stuff and you were venting. My apologies.
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I was but still at the time I posted it if I had seen your response I would have been angrier. Considering it was like a half hour later it’s all good in the hood.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
so with that 1st to 4th lin article..
statistically, what line does cooter belong on….not points or +/- of course because he just finally got speedy wingers to help him and now hes on a goal streak
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until Briere becomes a power play only guy in a few years, Cooter is not going to “fit” anywhere. He’s way too good to be a fourth liner, Schenn and he could both be the third line…moving forward I see them being the 2/3 (shameless plug) as mentioned in my fanpost.
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fanost’s are always fun
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Just so everyone is aware, people can see fanposts on the home page, no need to go all Pardini and mention them 12 times on the FlyBy.
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Hahaha.
Can we add Pardini to the official BSH dictionary now?
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Pardini: (n) def. 1) To toot ones own horn repeatedly in the FlyBy 2) To pester other posters/bloglords to post new material ad infinitum
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
3) To troll the shit out of Shaun.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Oh dammit, who was it earlier this season that commented repeatedly in like 5-6 different threads asking Kreider if he got some t-shirt ideas that were sent?
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wasnt it pardini lol
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No. It was someone I never saw around much and don’t think I’ve seen since.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
My bad, yes, verb. But a Pardini could be a noun if you just change it to someone who pesters people repeatedly for new material, etc., etc.
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On purpose?
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
No, I meant did you spell my name wrong on purpose? I can’t tell because we all know you’re not the brightest bulb.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
I didn’t even think about it. Habit. My bad, I know better. Shaun.
As for being the brightest bulb, I mean, I have two master’s and I’m an accountant…but I’m still a hockey player…I’ve likely got a few concussions on my resume. One from Chris Bala freshman year. I climbed onto the wrong bench. Literally onto it.
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Not asking this to be a dick but…do I know who Chris Bala is? Or is his name just burned into your brain….literally.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if you followed the local hockey scene in the 90s-early 2000s. 58th overall pick in the 1998 entry draft. He was the best hockey player I ever skated with, except maybe Rissmiller. Rissmiller made a better pro, Bala was a better player when he almost turned me into a vegetable…this guy broke three sticks in the first period, proceeded to take a right handed stick and score a hat trick. Unbelievable hockey player
Bala:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=35439
Rissy:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=67512
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Nope. Sorry. I did not, as a Lancaster resident, follow the local Virginia hockey scene in 1998, when I was 13.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
there’s so much snark in this. thank you
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
FYI
I didn’t write a FanPost. Don’t go check it out. Because it’s not there.
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Your comment started a train of thought. We need to be able to unreccomend some comments. Instead of green, they could be Penguins Yellow.
It’d be great.
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by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I also did not write a fanpost because I’m too fucking lazy.
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I will probably never write one again because chances are Eric has either already wrote it, or is working on writing it, and the writing quality in his will be far superior.
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oh come he he’s not far superior to you, he just a little superior
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Well his willingness and ability to explain everything in a way that doesn’t alienate a large portion of readers certainly is vastly superior.
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Either that or you’ll have something you want to see and you’ll convince somebody else to write about it…
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
So I’ve gathered.
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so panotch is bitching how the flyers didnt beat the shit out of stiaos in the next shift
even though it would have been a suspension
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This, plus the $10,000 fine for Lavy.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
although we all know if bsc had been in the game lavy would be getting that fine…which is a testment to how loyal bsc is to his teammates really
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I’m Tim and I eat at Geno’s
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 13, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
My name is Rod and I like to party
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
My name is Jonas, I’m carrying the wheel.
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Hi kids, do you like Primus?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
i am the walrus
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two very different intros...
“We’re Primus, and we suck!”
“We’re R.E.M., and this is what we do…”
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Has anyone seen this:
http://www.thepensblog.com/tpb/jan2012/victim-of-alleged-consol-energy-attack-speaks.html
Fan on Fan attacks at the Consol center do not seem to make the same level of news as any fights in Philadelphia.
That’s just fucking terrible.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, pregnant and also wearing a Pens jersey.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face: this is not an issue in just Pittsburgh, or Philly, or anywhere specifically. This is a human being issue. Narcissists all.
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On Bryz
"I just think he’s gotta roll up his sleeves, he’s gotta quit talking about the universe, he’s gotta get his game back and shut up," said Tocchet.
Yeah, especially the “shut up” part. Show me a consistent .920 SV% (or better) first, then you can run your mouth.
I feel that he’s too easily distracted this year for several reasons, and understandably so. It’s fine if we go to Bob as the starter but I do wish Bryz would get his shit together sooner rather than later.
Is he really “running his mouth?”
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
oh come on. this is pretty unfair. Yeah Bryz perhaps hasn’t been on his A-game, but he was sheltered by a phoenix team that played with a defense first mentality. This current Flyers team loves turning the puck over and creating odd-man rushes in their own zone
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Also, everyone knew who Bryz was before he was signed so it shouldn’t be a shock that he marches to the beat of his own drummer. Just because a bunch of folks now have buyer’s remorse doesn’t mean the product has changed all that much.
I never wanted Bryz to begin with, but all the shit that’s being heaped onto him is pretty unfair.
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by doubleh on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bryzgalov, like any other goalie not named Thomas/Lundqvist or Brian Elliot (of this year), would have poor numbers behind this defense (defense here accounts for forwards and defenseman playing defense). Want to improve the goalie’s numbers? If you’re up two goals emphasize the back-check and cleaning out the trash in front of the net. Slow the game down so your defenseman can make the outlet pass, or even take it up himself.
The whole mentality I don’t like about this team is that if they’re up 3 goals they continually try to score, but they half ass it. They get sloppy with the puck. if you’re going to half ass it, cut the ice in half and play defensively sound hockey in your own end of the ice. Get to center ice and dump it
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
This. And now the question is whether this is a byproduct of Lavi’s system.
/knows this will raise CCB’s blood pressure
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I thought Bryz’s play was supposed to be even better here than in Phoenix because of our superior defense?
Bryz has low self esteem
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
You can have all of the superior defense you want, but when your superior defense is being used in a heavily offensive scheme, you’re turning big physical d-men into Mike Green types who pinch up on the boards.
Phoenix’s scheme worked because they maxed out the defensive pressure from forwards and defenseman, which helped out Bryz a whole hell of a lot.
Bryz was shoved out the door because Detroit manhandled the Coyotes last year. i think if the Flyers played with the Coyotes scheme they’d be a better team. Their offense is certainly better than the Coyotes, which was a big minus for them when Detroit walked in. Also, Philly defensive core is better than Phoenix’. Under Lavvy they’re just being used incorrectly
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
it answered your question too. Superior defense doesn’t mean squat if you’re not going to put them in positions to succeed
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
this so.much.this.
i really wanna see what a dave tippet system can do when it has natural born plalmakers and scorers
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Yeah, that’s what people said.
Those people also had no idea how good Phoenix’s defense was but simply decided that Bryzgalov carried that team without watching or researching.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yandle, Jovo, Schlemko, Aucoin, Klesla, Rozsival
Timonen, Carle, Coburn, Meszaros, Bourdon, Lilja
Our defense is better than Phoenix’ defense in the playoffs last year
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Was Bryz good in the playoffs last year?
/honestly don’t know…just know PHX got eliminated.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_Phoenix_Coyotes_season
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
let me explain:
Our defensive core talent wise is better than Phoenix’ defensive core talent wise last year, but that’s not to say that Phoenix’ defensive core is bad. They’re not, but they played in a system that aggrandized their abilities and they played good hockey. Bryz was helped out by this, and he played very good hockey
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
bobs numbers are decent
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"It's the contract, stupid"
Phillly fans love overachievers, who hustle and clearly out-earn their salary. Lappy is a classic Flyers example. For Phils fans, Chooch is revered, and while he is good, his hustle and relatively low salary make him an icon.
They also like loquacious, highly snarky players as long as they are not too self-serving.
Bryz’s problem is not his goaltending but his contract. If Homer had signed him for 5 years at $3M per, given his incredibly funny dialog, he would be loved in Philly. Since his contract is endless, and since he was brought in as The Answer (apologies to Iverson), he is subject to scrutiny. As a goaltender in Philly, with Bob as backup, this results in classic backup-quarterback/goaltender controversy.
All this would not have been necessary had Homer John Nash’d this, as I proposed.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I don’t think you can really get your shit together unless you get starts as a goalie, at least in a way that would make us (the fans) believe he has his shit together. So you basically have until Bob shits the hot hand bed for him to even have a chance to prove anything to you.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
That will be soon. And it won’t be Bob shitting the bed so to speak either. It will be Bob coming back down to earth
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I just enjoy using that phrase.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
“shits the hot hand bed”
I just don’t know how to address that. The imagery is wicked
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t read any of today’s thread so I apologize if this was already mentioned.
but I’ve been seeing things about a JVR trade and I was wondering if that could really happen. wouldn’t he fail the health test like Blair Betts did?
by ForTheLoveOfBob on Jan 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
If he’s actually hurt he would fail it.
Bryz has low self esteem
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
hasn’t it been suggested that he is? and he’s getting surgery?
by ForTheLoveOfBob on Jan 13, 2012 3:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Damn. I really wanted this to say:
“I haven’t read any of today’s thread so I apologize if this was already mentioned.
Pardini wrote a fanpost.”
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
HEY GUYS THIS IS MY 1,000TH COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bryz has low self esteem
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
16,203rd for me. :) …. in < 2 years.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Nice.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
1906 since october 18th
i have a problem
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Yeah. It’ll get to you.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
For a Friday, I’m having a pretty lame-ass day. Is it 5 yet?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
ruh-roh..it made nhl.com
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Yeah.
The only reason I don’t like JVR is that he looks like a guy I used to work with, and this guy was a pathological liar. He’d stand outside an open garage door, smoking, and then when the whole place smelt of smoke, we’d confront him. He’d deny smoking. A one time thing is a goofy joke. 3 days a week got bad. Eventually I hassled him until he quit. (He was also stealing from the company, but the owner couldn’t prove it.)
Schenn’s big brother looks even more like him. I got no luck
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn is part of a package for JVR? That sounds more fair than just Schenn for JVR…
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I’m afraid if we trade JVR he will proceed to turn on his beast mode for the remainder of his career and we will wonder what would have been…
But if that package includes something like a nice pick (1st rounder maybe?? doubt it but look what they paid for Kessel) might be a little bit more palletable.
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by Lindbergh 31 on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’m afraid if we trade JVR he will proceed to turn on his beast mode for the remainder of his career and we will wonder what would have been…
That’s exactly what I’m afraid of.
Bryz has low self esteem
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
But unfortunately the other side to that coin is what if JVR had a hot playoffs and a few flashes here and there, and never becomes more than what he is, and we trade him before his contract kicks up, and Homer looks like a genius in that case.
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by Lindbergh 31 on Jan 13, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, it seems.
Bryz has low self esteem
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
take the chance…hes not gonna be a lindros or a sedin or a giroux….i see him as a leclair type player and again if schenn turns out to be the real deal(and we have good luck with our d man getting to potential lately) then we would shore up or d for a long time
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Pronger....
Has there been any updates on how Captain Elbows is doing?
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
Last week I think I read that he has not improved at all and is disheartened by it.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
That sucks. :(
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Other Trades
IF, and I know it’s not likley but IF, Selanne decides he wants to finish his career in the playoffs, we have to make a call right? We can’t let him end up in Pittsburgh, so what would be the price? I would think having Selanne out there for the playoffs would be worth a first right?
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Phaneuf
Not gonna happen but I’d be the happiest fan in Flyerdom
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Timmy Panotch says that Gus told him he was playing vs. Nashville.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Poor cillo.
Confirming CHI reports: Carcillo done for year. ACL.
From Bob McKenzie of TSN
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
:(
Crumbs.
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Jan 13, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
He got himself suspended for seven games and injured for the rest of the year in the same play.
What a buffoon.
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So does he serve the seven game suspension now or when he’s back from injury?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I think back. Those games follow you around.
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I think so too.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
From adding injury to insult to adding insult to injury.
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so im gonna make my zelda skyward sword game disc a fuckin shuriken soon
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
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