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Sean Couturier is still awesome, but Preds hold off Flyers, 4-2



It's weird how this game works sometimes. On Thursday night on Long Island, the Flyers probably should've lost to the New York Islanders, yet a solid performance from Sergei Bobrovsky kept them on top and stole them two points.

Tonight in Nashville, the Flyers peppered Pekka Rinne with shots all game long, including a strong barrage in the third period, but were unable to beat the Preds and their goaltender. They lost the game, 3-2 plus an empty netter, despite the strong effort and despite Sean Couturier continuing to be a total bad ass.

Couturier seems like he's about to score every single time he touches the puck lately, and he scored for the fourth straight game to pull the Flyers close in the second period. On the flip side, the top line continued to struggle, and the unit of Claude Giroux, Scott Hartnell and Jaromir Jagr really haven't looked in sync with each other since Jags has returned from injury. It's slowly becoming a concern. A big one.

All in all, it was a successful road trip, though, with the Flyers picking up four of six points and putting in a strong effort this evening. They're back at home against the thought-they-were-good-before-math-happened Minnesota Wild on Tuesday.

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If i had a chick pea for every damn ridiculous deflection goal scored against us, I could probably make a ton of hummus right now

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    Well this game turned out badly.

    Nice dig at the Wild.

    And is it wrong that I was expecting some snarky comment in the URL?

    Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.

    Matt Read for Calder!

    Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.

    Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates

    by Chemistry66 on Jan 14, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

    Damnit. I went for a beer and was supposed to come back to a win. This game’s a real bitch sometimes: play well and lose-play like shit and still win.

    "I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

    by doubleh on Jan 14, 2012 11:43 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

    don’t attribute it to chance or fate.

    the team needed your third-period minutes while you were out getting wasted.

    /s, more often than not

    by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 14, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

    I’m not even drunk. This night was a total fail.

    "I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

    by doubleh on Jan 14, 2012 11:52 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

    well then that really sucks. Couturier scored a goal, at least.

    /s, more often than not

    by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 14, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

    Shoulda potted two.

    "I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

    by doubleh on Jan 14, 2012 11:54 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

    I could quite possibly be one of if not THE only one on yahoo fantasy sports with all of Couturier’s points on his current streak. Let’s just say its been a good week, especially considering I just got my Juicy winter classic jersey!
    I also have to thank Jeff Carter, Nicklas Backstrom and Sidney Crosby for making plenty of room at center haha. My centers the past 2 weeks are Orange Jesus, Juicy, and Read haha deeply orange up the middle.

    by kckrebs on Jan 15, 2012 3:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    You have Carter, Crosby, Backstrom, AND Giroux? Holy cow. My centers are Carter, Couturier, and Schenn. And some rookie on the Preds that I don’t remember seeing at all Saturday so I might drop him. Of course, this league is 20 teams, and I drafted two goalies high, so my centers are pretty terrible. I wish Carter wasn’t so disappointing. It happens every year, I draft a “can’t miss stud” high, and he has a bad year. Oh well.

    I heart our rookies.

    "Who's more crazy? Who's more...weird?"

    by LeepinLizardz on Jan 16, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

    Last year, for me, that “can’t miss” player was Crosby. I caught (and still do get) an unfathomable amount of shit for having drafted him, and then he didn’t even play half of the season. I knew I should have taken Miller…

    Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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    by hintzy64 on Jan 16, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

    This is my first year playing fantasy hockey, but it always seems to happen to me with baseball. 2011 Hanley Ramirez, 2010 Joe Mauer, 2009 Cole Hamels…sigh.

    I heart our rookies.

    "Who's more crazy? Who's more...weird?"

    by LeepinLizardz on Jan 16, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

    It happens to everybody, you get the injury bug sometime during the season and it takes out either your best player, half of your roster, or both. Part of the unpredictability and excitement!

    Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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    by hintzy64 on Jan 16, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

    Yes but I play in a deep league with only 12 teams. I took Backstrom in the first round because one of my little rat bastard friends drafted Giroux 6th overall ( I had the 8th pick). Then I traded Quick and Briere for Giroux and Hiller. Drafted Crosby in the 3rd round, wasn’t really planning on it initially but he was still there after 30 picks so I snagged him.
    Sorry for the late reaction, can’t get on the internet too often and it can be difficult to track on a blackberry.

    by kckrebs on Jan 17, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

    What’s Couturier’s on ice shooting % been like over the last 10 or so games? Is his production since being shifted to better linemates sustainable? Because if so, and given RNH’s injury, he could be a serious Calder contender.

    Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

    One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.

    by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 14, 2012 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

    also, talking about shooting, he has got an amazing shot.

    Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

    One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.

    by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 14, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

    Seems like everytime he is free down the wing, he will just shoot it top shelf in the far corner

    by Anders Jensen on Jan 15, 2012 4:06 AM EST up reply actions  

    Entering tonight, his on-ice shooting% over the last 9 games was 12.8%. That’s high, but it’s not outlandishly high. At least until you see that the Flyers are shooting 7.8% at 5-on-5 over that stretch and 9.6% on the year.

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    by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 15, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

    I don’t think the Flyers shooting % over that stretch is indicative of too much; other than that the Flyers have been relatively unlucky over that stretch. But yeah 12.8 over 9.6 isn’t too much of a jump is it? That’s fairly promising. He could get down to around 10% and still be scoring at a similar pace.

    Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

    One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.

    by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 15, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

    League average is around 8.1%, I think you’re baseline is off.

    9.6% is high. Last year, the Flyers lead the league with a 9.2% shooting percentage. They were one of only two teams (Dallas) to have a shooting percentage higher than 8.8%.

    So 12.8% is very high. The Flyers 9.6% on the year is high. The 7.8% over the last ten games is just below league average.

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    by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

    Three words

    “Geoff was wrong” ;) (early season, return him to juniors)

    Juicy belongs on this team. But hey, if there was something to be wrong about, that’s about as good as you can do.

    by Th3T1ck on Jan 15, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

    I believe the argument wasn’t based on developmental issues but with future costs and signing status concerns. Some of us in “return” camp were working from the assumption that Flyers needed more time before reasonably contending (I’m not sure of Detweiler’s stand on this exact point) so Couturier’s impact on the season would be negible in regards to winning the championship, the point of the rebuild according to the FO. Given this and the future cap quandries Bryz’s contract portends, sending Couturier down was seen more as a means of saving money.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

    Some argued that his development would be better served back in juniors, especially with the world tournament, and especially if he were relegated to 4th line status up here.

    I believe the future cost issue included the fact that both Giroux and Schenn would also be RFAs in the same year as Couturier if we kept him, whereas if we pushed it out another year the only other contract ending is Briere’s, who would be 38 going into the following season. Of course, who knows how other contract end dates will fall between now and then.

    /s, more often than not

    by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 15, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

    My stance was not dependent upon the Flyers’ ability to contend, but was rather based on the fact that I didn’t want to burn a year of Couturier’s ELC just to use him on the fourth line.

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    by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 15, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

    My desire to send him back was never about his skill or his likelihood of success.

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    by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 15, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

    Alright guys, just having a little fun. Yes, “Geoff was right” that he’ll be tougher to fit under the cap long term because he’s going to earn more money sooner. Mostly it was arguing that the value of the cap savings in 3 years was greater than his current year contributions. Still an RFA then, and Giroux looks pretty cheap to me.

    Some argued that his development would be better served back in juniors, especially with the world tournament, and especially if he were relegated to 4th line status up here.

    This too. How he would have developed in the juniors cannot be proven or disproven, but he clearly has developed as an NHL player. He’s making significant contributions to the Flyers being real contenders for the cup this year.

    Not fighting. Just having a little fun with Geoff after he dropped how much he likes to see “Geoff is right”. ;)

    by Th3T1ck on Jan 15, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

    Geoff’s favorite three words are usually coming from me! But I do like to argue for the entertainment.

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    by MJDII on Jan 15, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

    No. Couturier’s performance is only going to serve to prove Geoff right in the long run when he gets a bigger contract sooner than he would have had he been sent back to juniors at the start of the year.

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    by Justin F. on Jan 15, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

    I agree thats a problem in a few years, but with Betts injury and the lose of Richard, I cant see who from the AHL there could do it near aswell as Cooter.

    by Anders Jensen on Jan 15, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

    Again, it was the marginal cost, not the absolute skill.

    Nobody argued that Holmstrom or Betts or Talbot could be the 4th line center as well as Couturier, but rather than they could be a good 4th line center for less money while also saving money in the future.

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    by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 15, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

    Fuck my eyes with bumble bees, those unis are an offense to color. They should be fined.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

    I mean when you see ’em in a pack., whoa…during the game, the whiteness of the ice mitigates the retinal damage.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

    It’s not as bad in person as on TV (I’ve seen it both ways). However, it IS hard to read the numbers/names on the jerseys.

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    In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
    (a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal

    by Bud in TN on Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

    It’s not as bad in person as on TV

    TWSS

    Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

    by mikefive on Jan 15, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

    JJ called the jerseys’ yellow at one point and self-corrected them to be mustard.

    by ian p on Jan 15, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

    Says the team who is blaze orange. I like both colors. Better than blue, blue, blue, and blue.

    "We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand

    by DonBorvio on Jan 15, 2012 4:01 AM EST up reply actions  

    Agreed. Kudos to the Preds for having the guts to rock a totally different color. I like the gold.

    I heart our rookies.

    "Who's more crazy? Who's more...weird?"

    by LeepinLizardz on Jan 15, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

    Yeah. I remember a college roommate showed up at a party wearing yellow cargo pants he’d just bought. Said he was sick of looking like everybody else in blue jeans. He got a bunch of ladies’ phone numbers that night.

    He sucked at hockey, but didn’t drink much so his cap hit was low.

    /s, more often than not

    by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 15, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

    Quite possibly my favorite post of all time.
    Thank you Chicago? Fuck, really? Chicago? Sigh…

    by kckrebs on Jan 15, 2012 11:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    thank you and you’re welcome. and i don’t live in chicago anymore. was only there a short time for work, including when I signed up at SB Nation. I live in SF. And that college story was in Philly.

    /s, more often than not

    by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

    This game reminded of how I felt when the Flyers played the Sabres last year before Leino killed the team with his post hoc ergo propter hocki-tuity

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

    Why not give Jagr a day off, put someone new on that line, and see how it works?

    It's in his wheelhouse!!
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    by Dr. Steve on Jan 15, 2012 2:52 AM EST reply actions  

    He doesn’t even need a day off. Just put him on Briere’s line for a few games and let him play some sheltered minutes. Maybe that’ll help Briere really get things going to. You can’t take him off the Giroux line for long though since he loves playing with G so much. Take him off that line and he might lose some his enthusiasm and not put forth the effort he has been.

    by DrunkHockeyFan on Jan 15, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

    Normally not a reason to keep someone on a line but the guys got nothing left to prove and no need for the money. If playing with G is what keeps him excited to come to the rink then take advantage of it.

    by DrunkHockeyFan on Jan 15, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

    Sorry about the loss:(

    But I think I’m in love with Scooter/I wish he was a Duck. Sigh.

    by light_the_lamp on Jan 15, 2012 2:57 AM EST reply actions  

    I think most Flyers fans love him too :)

    by Anders Jensen on Jan 15, 2012 4:05 AM EST up reply actions  

    If you know any that don’t, send them my way. I would be more than happy to straighten them out :)

    by kckrebs on Jan 15, 2012 11:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    I really think Jagr needs some more rest even with JVR out, bump Harry Z a line up, put Read or Voracek with Giroux and either recall Wellwood or play Shelley for a few games to get him the extra rest.

    by Anders Jensen on Jan 15, 2012 4:22 AM EST reply actions  

    When was the last time Bryz has a win?

    by MrSavageHenry on Jan 15, 2012 6:35 AM EST reply actions  

    last Saturday against Ottawa

    by profoundnotions on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

    Well nothing worse then witnessing a road loss. Flyers really controlled play because I was in the fifth row off the ice in the corner next to illya for two periods and spent the night looking at the jumbo tron to watch the game. Would have loved the win. People were real nice here and good sports. As soon as the Flyers scored I stood up and yelled “No donuts for you” and got a chuckle from the Preds faithful around me. They have a give away for just about every score, kind of funny, but I’m getting me a free Frosty in Nashville at any participating Wendys today. I however find the you suck and it’s all your fault crap after every goal the preds score to be a bit bush league. Reminds me of crapitals games, what a bunch of morons. Of all the nights for JVR to be hurt last night he could have stood in the crease at will. Oh well good game, really nice arena and so far a pretty cool town. There was a lot of orange n the stands last night as well, which I am always proud to see.

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    by MJDII on Jan 15, 2012 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

    I love Nashville, unfortunately, no jobs for me there. FYI, the cheering appeals to the redneck portion of the fanbase, and yes, they do cater to those folks as indeed there are rich rednecks.

    Of all the nights for JVR to be hurt last night he could have stood in the crease at will.

    I really think Trotz won the coaching war on this one. The Predators post-game specifically mentioned they had studied tape and retooled their regular scheme to beat the Flyers (more on this later). It is not a surprise that Simmonds scored.

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    In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
    (a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal

    by Bud in TN on Jan 15, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

    Flyers haven’t won in Nashville for a long time.

    I missed the game but was not expecting a win. I was hoping for an OT/SO loss.

    I was out seeing these guys instead.

    Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

    by mikefive on Jan 15, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

    fuck fuck fuck

    I was gonna go to that show. They’re from PA though, rite. Hopefully they’ll play again soon which is what I was banking on. It’s such an event to go into town. It’s an hour to an hour and a half to get there so I have to pick my battles so to speak. Damn I bet it was fun.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

    They’re from Allentown, yeah.

    It was fun. I’ve never seen Johnny Brenda’s turn into a mosh pit before. I wasn’t fully partaking – those days are well behind me – but I was giving a few friendly elbows and pushes here and there. No bad vibes at all – people were shoving and sliding and stage-diving and crowd-surfing and had huge grins on their faces the whole time.

    Most intense Pissed Jeans show I’ve ever been to, aside from the first time I saw them back in 2005 or 2006. I don’t remember.

    Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

    by mikefive on Jan 15, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

    Well the Packers just pissed their jeans.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

    Well it’s good the HC kiddies are still kids. I’d hate to hear that the crowd was like the one at the Russian Circles show – more serious than a Dostoevsky novel.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

    Oh, come on now, we shut you down and you know it! lol Actually, it was a great game and both teams played great. But in the end, our goalie was better than your goalie! And the color is GOLD! I love the Flyers, having lived in Pa for a long time. But now I’m in TN and love my Preds and Titans! Have a great day!

    "I am you, you are me, and we are all together" Beatles

    by amyinsparta on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

    The Preds are my second team, mostly because of Rinne being a beast on my fantasy team and because they’s a friggin saber-tooth tiger on their sweaters and saber-tooth tigers are awesome.

    And yeah, it is gold, you guys. At least officially. They were using “Behold the gold” as a marketing phrase when they first unveiled the design.

    I heart our rookies.

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    by LeepinLizardz on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

    It looks like cadmium yellow to me. Gold as color which technically it’s not, I go with Norte Dame football helmets.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

    Yeah, it’s not really gold, but that’s what they’re calling it. I’d imagine it’s listed as “gold” on their style guide, so I’m going to call it gold.

    But you’re right, it’s definitely more of a medium-to-deep cadmium yellow. It’s different, whatever it is. And I like it.

    I heart our rookies.

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    by LeepinLizardz on Jan 15, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

    I can’t paint without cadmium yellow, so I am, by default a fan of it. My qualm really is with the application of it. They shouldn’t have done the “tie the outfit together” move with the yellow topped sock – you get bumble bee…the black or dark blue doesn’t help esp. with the white piping. Also the collar detail just ads to the overall costume effect that I get from it.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

    But in the end, our goalie was better than your goalie!

    This is true, but not for the reason you think.

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    In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
    (a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal

    by Bud in TN on Jan 15, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

    the thought-they-were-good-before-math-happened Minnesota Wild

    hahahahahahaha, nice

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    by hintzy64 on Jan 15, 2012 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

    Hahaha, incredible COTN. Hummus is a gift from the gods.

    I heart our rookies.

    "Who's more crazy? Who's more...weird?"

    by LeepinLizardz on Jan 15, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

    Had sokme with my dinner at Johnny Brenda’s last night. Man do they make awesome hummus there.

    Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

    by mikefive on Jan 15, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

    Er, had SOME.

    Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

    by mikefive on Jan 15, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

    Suter, Weber, and Rinne were all studs last night. The game wouldn’t have been close, otherwise.

    Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

    by Snevik on Jan 15, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

    I f*cking love Giroux. Such a fighter. Coots is playing like a 10th year veteran and one of the best penalty killers in the NHL. The future is looking bright, boys!

    Carter & Boucher traded for Cam Ward

    by TimKerr on Jan 15, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

    Apparently that is the worst thing that could have happened to the Flyers. The future is shit because all these young are to good to fast. Oh well!

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    by MJDII on Jan 15, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

    what do you mean ? its not like we have 4-5 guys taking up a 1/3 of our cap spa———…..oh..never mind

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    by reaper1221 on Jan 15, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

    2 of those contracts are up in a few years.

    by Anders Jensen on Jan 15, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

    dont you worry with snider and homer at the helm, there will be 9 year 6.5 mill cap hit contracts for every1!

    Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
    MICHAEL!

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    by reaper1221 on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

    JVR injury = no trade

    I think that’s good thing. Frankly, we need his size and potential. Briere won’t be around too much longer and Jags has 1-2 years in him.

    However, i think we’ve all seen by the sh!tshocalypse of defensive turnovers every game since Pronger has gone out that we have a major playoff problem we absolutely need to solve before the end of the season. Seems like our options are:

    1) Hope Bourdon/Gustafsson/Walker grow into steady top 4 defensemen. This is a very risky scenario in my mind. To Bourdon’s credit, he is only 1 in 24 games.
    2) Move a Matt Read/Schenn type along with draft picks. I’d really hate to trade potential but we may need to.
    3) Dream scenario = Fluery or Thomas season ending injury, we unload Bryzgalov + get a defenseman, and Bob continues with his .920
    .930 play. A boy can dream right?

    Carter & Boucher traded for Cam Ward

    by TimKerr on Jan 15, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

    OT

    Eli Manning is the new Tebow.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

    And that sucks.

    "I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

    by doubleh on Jan 15, 2012 7:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

    That game was horrible. Bad football played by both teams.

    by j reed on Jan 15, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

    Terrible game. Nearly unwatchable.

    "I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

    by doubleh on Jan 15, 2012 9:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

    Habs beating up on the Rangers right now over on NBCSN. 3-1 and it’s not even halfway over.

    by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 15, 2012 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

    I’ve had it with NY sports. It was bad enough with the Yanks and Mets, but now with the Giants and Rags, it’s just awful.

    Babe, Bucky, Buckner, Boone, BALTIMORE!!!

    by goldomatic on Jan 15, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

    we were about eight rows behind the flyers bench

    mom got this photo with her iphone.

    :-D

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    by f2yers8 on Jan 15, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

    I would say I looked for you but there was so much orange it would have been impossible.

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    by MJDII on Jan 15, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

    yeah, I figured it would be pointless.

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    by f2yers8 on Jan 16, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

    Since they told me where they were sitting, I knew where F2yers8 and M were (fyi: that is where I think the corporate types sit, lots of empty seats, lots of people with Flyers gear in those sections, and several rows of empty seats despite it being a “sellout”) . However, I was with the proletariat up a couple of sections, behind the goal.

    For technical reasons, I could not be in the game thread, but here are my observations:

    (1) The Scooter/Read/Simmonds line was clearly the best, really awesome.

    (2) One of the things that I could tell well from that angle was that the Flyers were playing into the Nashville scheme. The Flyers are real snipers, but most of their shots were from 15 or more feet away, and unscreened. Nashville, OTOH, kept bunched and crowded the net and screened many of their shots. Bryz was clearly surprised on at least two of the goals, and the third one in particular was some combination of fluky and incompetence on Bryz’ fault. But the Flyers played into what Rinne does well….stopping the power shot. He, like many goalies, and certainly Bryz, are not as good on the scramble/fluky shot.

    (3) Related to #1 and #2, Simmonds scored by being positioned in front of the net. While I agree JvR could have really been helpful in this game, Lavi should have repositioned the forwards, even those that are not normally in front so that there was constant screening of the goalie. Rinne can be rattled. The Flyers like to have 2 or even 3 behind the net chasing, and that does not work against Nashville. There was one or two powerplays where the Flyers kept cycling the puck, and on those times, they also screened. The fans around me were literally gasping at points, one said “two minutes can seem so long sometime…an eternity” And that was less than one minute into the powerplay. Had the Flyers had fewer people go in to get the puck behind the net, they would have controlled the puck on fewer plays, but would have controlled it for a longer period, and created screens and confusion.

    (3) I agree with the general consensus that G’s line looked sluggish and out of synch most of the time. However, G looked somewhat better than his linemates, especially Jagr. JJ may still be injured.

    (4) Voracek looked great, Talbot looked fine, but he and Danny weren’t involved in the play that much.

    (5) Schenn has now been relegated to fourth line in the musical chairs. I know that lines are as they are due to injuries, but Harry Z and Rinaldo may not be a good combination together. Or maybe Harry Z just seemed a bit more volatile last night. Not sure if/how to fix this though.

    (6) Gus>>>>>>Lilja.

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    In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
    (a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal

    by Bud in TN on Jan 15, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

    @go figure, lavy being out coached@

    Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
    MICHAEL!

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    by reaper1221 on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

    balls

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    MICHAEL!

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    by reaper1221 on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

    Yea Harry Z was feisty. The Flyers rarely got up in Pekka’s grille. And I was surprised on the one real scrum to stir the pot Rinaldo was at the circle talking to the ref as if he didn’t want to be involved.
    I do disagree a little about flyer playing to the Preds. They controlled the majority of the play and looked like a superior team.

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    by MJDII on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

    controlled the majority of the play

    They “looked like the superior team”, Meaning they kept the puck most of the time, and shot on Rinne from 15 feet out or more, unscreened. Suter and Weber laugh. Win, Barry Trotz.

    GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
    In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
    (a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal

    by Bud in TN on Jan 15, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

    Are there links to the corsi and fenwick numbers?

    by j reed on Jan 16, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

    Ah, they weren’t there this morning or perhaps I didn’t refresh the page.

    by j reed on Jan 16, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  


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