Wednesday Morning Fly By: Richard Zednik Can Survive Anything
by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 6:01 AM EST
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I still like the idea of awarding a team 2 points for a regulation or overtime win, 1 point for a shootout win and 0 points for any type of loss. Shootouts are entertaining and there’s no way they’ll be eliminated, but those wins don’t impress me as much as a regulation or overtime win.
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so what you’re saying is, even if a team battles to a shootout and loses they get 0 points? yeah tell me how’d that work for us with our shootout prowess. the 3 point system is the best. 3 for regulation win 2 for overtime/shootout win 1 point for overtime/shootout loss. unfortunately it probably wont happen because they have the ROW now…and because that would make sense
by profoundnotions on Jan 25, 2012 7:25 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah imagine getting 0 points in that game against Boston because we lost the frikking shootout.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:26 AM EST up reply actions
I like 3 points for a regulation or overtime win, reward for winning while playing the game.
2 points for a shootout win, and
1 point for an overtime or shootout loss..
There used to be a site that calculated standings on this 3 point system.
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I would like a simple change, if you loose in OT you don’t get a point. Then if you make it to the shootout you get 1 and if you win you get two.
"When the Flyers win a playoff series, as they did this past year, is when you yell at me for being wrong? Because I said the Flyers won’t win a round'?
Geoff Detweiler.
That’s still encouraging teams to play conservatively in OT. Why try to win in OT when the risk of losing will net you 0 points?
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Not trying to solve all the problems. I just never understood why you get a point just for making it to ot.
"When the Flyers win a playoff series, as they did this past year, is when you yell at me for being wrong? Because I said the Flyers won’t win a round'?
Geoff Detweiler.
Because in time Long long ago in the old days they would end a game after 60 minutes no matter what. And if it was a tie, each team got a point. So when they went to the first format of overtime they kept it that the loser still got a point. And they have kept that idea even with the shootout.
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So when they went to the first format of overtime they kept it that the loser still got a point.
I don’t think this is true.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think so. You always got a point win or lose.
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Nah, you didn’t always. Check the standings for 1997-98 (the earliest year they have) on NHL.com and it will show the Flyers going 42-29-11-1 with 95 points. (42 * 2 + 11 = 95).
No loser point until 1999-2000.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
1983-84 was the first year that included a five-minute overtime period. The overtime loser received no points.
The loser point was added in 1999-2000 because the number of ties was increasing and overtimes were putting people to sleep.
Overtime was originally put in the game in the late 20s, a 10-minute period. It was removed during WWII.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Shit between 84 and 92 I was stoned and playing more hockey then watching. I plead the 5th.
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so you were regressing, statistically.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I wasnt regressing till mid 20’s. Then I just went into the toilet.
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So back to my original point, have the overtime if you win 2 points if you loose 0. If it goes to a shoot out then you get one and then winner gets two.
"When the Flyers win a playoff series, as they did this past year, is when you yell at me for being wrong? Because I said the Flyers won’t win a round'?
Geoff Detweiler.
You do know Geoff comes back and will have your ass, right! ;-)
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History will say Geoff made the last comment and you had no reply.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Of course. Hey M when is there going to be roller or ice games for BSH again. I finally get my liecense back at the end of Feb. so I am comming to the next one after that I don’t care if its in Pitt.
"When the Flyers win a playoff series, as they did this past year, is when you yell at me for being wrong? Because I said the Flyers won’t win a round'?
Geoff Detweiler.
N
Not sure these things happen organically. U should start the ball rolling.
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Hey, if you’re going to quote me, do it accurately:
The question mark goes inside the quotation marks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Although, going through and finding where I said that brought me to this excellent back and forth with M:
Me: “Well, I respect your main desire. I simply believe you are selling his tepid response short by saying it is due solely to the loss of a guy who plays 10 minutes per game.”
M: “10 minutes per game? Link please!”
Me: (Link to Blair Betts’ H-R page)
M: “How did shelley playing an average of like 4 minutes a game drag a guy playing 10 down?”
Me: “4 minutes per game? Link please!”
M: “Again, I make no claim tto accuracy. Read the disclaimer.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff I am lost on this sorry?
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haha, no worries.
It was from the Fly By for the season opener. Betts had just been waived and somebody expressed less-than enthusiasm for the season. You called him out connecting the two and told him to suck it up.
It doesn’t matter the context, really. All that matters is a) you demanding proof for something innocuous; b) me providing one; c) you doing the exact same thing I did; d) me demanding proof; e) you saying “ah, fuck it. I don’t care.”
It makes me smile.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think this comment is where I lost what is going on? What did I quote. This is hysterical.
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Yeah, that one wasn’t to you. That’s to Mattx for quoting me in his signature.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Almost sure I copied and pasted.
"When the Flyers win a playoff series, as they did this past year, is when you yell at me for being wrong? Because I said the Flyers won’t win a round'?
Geoff Detweiler.
Right, you just put the end quotation mark on the wrong side of the question mark.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 26, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions
Let me channel M:
Dammit, teams will play for the shootout cause they don’t want to lose! That’ll ruin hockey. I don’t care about your numbers, ask Keith Jones.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
so what you’re saying is, even if a team battles to a shootout and loses they get 0 points?
That makes more sense to me than rewarding a team for losing. Just because the Flyers would be on the shit end of the stick doesn’t make a difference. They’ll just have to figure out how to win.
That said, I still think shootouts are an absurd way to settle a game, and see nothing wrong with a tie. The only reason anyone ever gives for being anti-tie is “ties are like kissing your sister” which isn’t true because a tie means 2 teams were evenly matched, and kissing your sister is incestuous.
you killed your own argument when you said rewarding a team…a shootout doesn’t require a team its a one on one competition in no way reflecting the teams level of play
by profoundnotions on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It takes more than one shooter to win a shootout, though. Sidney crosby and two jody shelleys probably isnt gonna win a shootout. Ever.
But it does only take one goalie to win a shootout…
Mr. Corsi Fenwick, you confuse the hell outta me.
by zachtbhood on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Or one coin to flip.
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by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
uhh no it doesn’t take more than one shooter. giroux is the only one who scored against Florida…one shooter
by profoundnotions on Jan 26, 2012 11:06 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nah I’m not a fan of that. That then punishes a team too much for not being able to close it out in OT and then losing a coinflip. The Flyers would suffer the most because of that.
To be honest I just want ties after 5 minutes of OT.
4 points = regulation win
3 points = OT win
2 points = tie
1 point = OT loss
0 points = regulation loss
Or perhaps even (and this is just a random thought):
3 points = regulation win
2 points = OT win
1 point = tie
0 points = any loss
The second one I’ve suggested should hopefully reduce ‘playing for the tie’ because winning in regulation offers 3 points total to the winner and after regulation there are only 2 points to distribute. But I’m not sure about that system (in fact I just made that up right now), I would much prefer the first one I mentioned (4-3-2-1-0).
OR you could just have the 3-2-1-0 system that many have suggested for a long time.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:26 AM EST up reply actions
4 points = regulation win
3 points = OT win
2 points = tie
1 point = OT loss
0 points = regulation loss
What if they did this, but made it 2-1.5-1-.5-0 instead of 4-3-2-1-0? Just to keep it on the same two-points-for-a-regulation-win scale, though I understand if half-points would be a bit annoying.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
If shootouts are a coin flip, then the Flyers would have as good of a chance as any team to be successful in them from here on out. So how would they suffer most?
I’d like them to lengthen the 4-on-4 OT to 10 minutes. Then a shootout. 2 points for a win in regulation or OT, 1 point for a shootout win, 0 points for losing.
Good point – but for whatever reason the Flyers appear to be an anomaly and just do crap in the shootout no matter who the players are, who the coach is or even who the GM is.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t quite believe that they are coin flips, so I don’t really have a problem with them having an impact in the regular season. I’d just like them to be less frequent; hence extended overtime. If we continue to stink at them, then so be it.
You may not believe it, but statistically, it’s true.
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by JerseyDriver on Jan 26, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I know that the stats apparently show it to be true, though I haven’t seen them. If anyone could point me in such a direction I’d appreciate it. But it seems that certain players are better than others in that situation (maybe this assumption is false), and if you accrue enough players who are good at it, then you should be good at it as a team.
There’s a lot of turnover in rosters from year to year, and 3 shots per team isn’t much of a sample, so I could understand why skill might get buried by chance. Much like in a 5 game series in the MLB playoffs vs. the 162 game season.
http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2010/12/29/1901842/nhl-shootout-is-a-crapshoot
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 26, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, no way that a shootout should be the reason that a team is awarded no points for a game. Obviously the best way would be to bring back ties, but that won’t happen. I like the soccer system (3 Points for a win, 1 Point for a tie (Or OT loss). I don’t like the idea of de-valuing an overtime win either.
Florida would lose 11 points if we take away the point for an OT loss loll
by Clutterbuck4MVP on Jan 25, 2012 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
My problem is, that they award 2 points for a regulation game and 3 points in OT/SO(2 to the victor and 1 to the loser). Last years buffalo game they need one point to clinch a play-off spot, minute remaining in the 3rd buffalo sat on it to get that guaranteed one point. If you do it as said before:
3 for regulation win
2 for overtime/shootout win
1 for overtime/shootout loss
0 for regulation loss
That way teams will want to finish the game in regulation because they would loss that third point.
-bob
by Rrainone on Jan 25, 2012 8:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This. 3-point system is the way to go.
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I think an overtime 4v4 win should be 3 points. You at least won the game competing in the format of the sport.
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I disagree. Winning in regulation is a feat that should not be given equal weight to winning after 60 minutes.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yup. Hence the 3-point system. The team that loses in OT gets some small reward for surviving regulation. The OT winner gets more points than the OT loser, but not as much as if they had finished them off in regulation. And the total value of the game in the standings is still the same, unlike in our current format where OT/SO games are worth more.
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I’m with M on this one. I never look at a win and scoff because a team had to go to overtime, but I do scoff if they won in a shootout. So I’d change your statement to “winning in a shootout is a feat that should not be given equal weight to winning after 60-65 minutes.”
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So if you lose in OT you get nothing, but if you lose in SO, you get 1 point?
I see a contradiction there. You’re telling teams to go for the win in regulation and OT while also incentivizing going to not lose in OT. It probably won’t impact regulation play, but you are telling teams to play conservative in OT like they used to before the SO. Why would a team take a risk in OT if they could end up with nothing?
But I guess if you and M are older, you didn’t care about teams playing for a tie in overtime.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how your system provides any great incentive for taking risks in OT either.
In your system, playing for a win means you might get 2 pts and might get 1, or you can sit back and wait for a shootout (1.5 point expectation).
In M’s system, playing for a win means you might get 3 pts and might get 0, or you can sit back and wait for a shootout (1.5 point expectation).
In both cases, playing aggressively is a risk. If a team isn’t willing to risk 1.5 points by playing aggressively in M’s system, why would they risk 0.5 points by playing aggressively in yours? If they think playing aggressively is better than 50-50, then they should do it under either system. If they think it’s worse than 50-50, then they should not do it under either system.
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Tell me, stat boy, how well do those point expectations work out in NFL 4th down situations?
You and I both know that coaches would rather make it to a shootout and get 1 point at worst than get 0 points in overtime. It may not be smart, it may not be rational, but we’ve seen it happen time and time again.
It’s why the NHL shifted to giving out a point for OTL years ago, despite teams having the same expectation (you play for a win means you might get 2 pts and might get 0, OR you can sit back and wait for a tie (1 point expectation)).
So… theory is nice, except it didn’t work in practice.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
It’s different though, because everyone hates the shootout. Teams won’t want their fates decided on a coinflip. I hope.
Also, the NFL 4th down thing is a little different, because there teams don’t go for it because the failures are perceived as being catastrophically bad — every fan says “what the HELL was he doing going for it on his own 40?” I don’t think you’d get fans saying “why the hell was the team trying to score instead of sitting back for a shootout?”
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You hope, but teams need points.
NFL 4th down is a little different, since it’s an easily identified isolated incident. But if you get a dman who pinches, or you play with three forwards on the ice, or you make long stretch passes… teams will know whether you are going for 3 points or banking on 1. And I think getting 0 in OT will be perceived as much worse than 1 in SO.
But this – teams will be just as aggressive as they are now – isn’t your best argument. Your best argument is: Why would you treat a SO win the same as an OT win? I think you have to treat their losses as equal in order to keep OT interesting, but I have no rationale for keeping a SO win as valuable as an OT win.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
You hope, but teams need points.
So why don’t they go for three?
Your best argument is: Why would you treat a SO win the same as an OT win?
Yes, that was the first argument I made. And your answer was “because I fear that OT will be boring.”
So let’s look at some data:
In 2003-04, 315 games went to overtime. 46% of them were decided in 5 minutes and 54% went to a tie.
In 2005-06, 281 games went to overtime. 48% of them were decided in 5 minutes and 52% went to a shootout.
So how exactly did you conclude that the current system leads teams to play more aggressively in overtime than they used to? Is it really hinging on that 2% increase in deciding games in those five minutes?
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Ha! That was the data I was looking for.
Well, not exactly. One year samples are not really convincing. If you were to show that the 54% ties was not an outlier that year and 52% the same, then I shall concede the point.
Until then, we recess for lunch.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
In ’02-03, 313 games went to overtime. 50% of them were decided in 5 minutes.
In ’03-04, 315 games went to overtime. 46% of them were decided in 5 minutes.
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In ’05-06, 281 games went to overtime. 48% of them were decided in 5 minutes.
In ’06-07, 281 games went to overtime. 42% of them were decided in 5 minutes.
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That looks to me like a pretty clear trend…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
So who wins?
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I’m not sure either of us do. What these four years show (and it may not be enough to prove it’s more than coincidence) is that there were more tie games after 65 minutes after introducing the shootout than before. But there were fewer overtime games too.
Did teams prefer to go into the shootout, counter to Eric’s argument? Or did teams play more conservatively knowing they had a guaranteed point, counter to my argument?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Curious
Has that one study been univerally accepted by the footbal advanced metric crowd or is there other work that demostrates similar ideas?
Don’t interfere. Just sit back and watch the magic. Salmon colored box mayhem is about to insure.
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by MJDII on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Insure against what, M?
:)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Damn stubby fingers!
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That would explain the extra ‘r’, but not why you replaced the ‘e’ at the beginning with an ‘i’. :-p
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Ok
I officially blame Apple!
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I don’t follow the football metrics terribly closely, so I’m not sure. I know the idea is widely accepted, but don’t know if there were other studies that helped drive that adoption.
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I wonder if the notion is supported by findings that show more aggressive play in general is a optimal strategy like in baseball where conservative strategies in most cases have been shown to yield sub optimal results. Considering the cost of a loss in a 16 game season driving much of the assumptions behind the decision making, I hope they would show a little more reservation in accepting those conclusions or at least do so with a general body of work based on actual outcomes that demonstrates the benetfit of more risk taking as a succesfull overall strategy. ( If I remember correctly, the study was based on simulations)
If the 60 minutes of reguklation ends in a tie everyone is guaranteed 1 point as it has been forever.
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Okay, then you have no created 4 point games and not solved the main problem.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
You are obviously way smarter then me but I would think trying to win in regulation and overtime would be a teams goal and gives them 3 points. I look at overtime as a last chance to win not sit on a tie. But I know I am old school. But being tied after regulation insures you 1 point for the effort. If a team sits back to try and win a shootout which is a crap shoot anyway, then shame on them because that is not guaranteed. But if you need to pass a team for conference standing getting 3 points would be imperative. The point of my system is to not make winning a circus the same as winning while playing the game.
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And that’s the point of our system too, except our system ALSO eliminates the disparity in how many points are available for each game.
If you want to keep giving out a point for an OT loss, you either a) count an OT win as less than a regulation win, since you are counting an OT loss as less bad than a regulation loss; or b) continue giving out 4 points some games, 3 points in others.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Ethically I have a problem with shootouts equaling game play, overtime or not. But I think I see what your point is mathematically. I can concede this issue on the basis that winning a hockey game playing it as it has been played since the beginning of time should count for something and be rewarded. Let’s get Bettman on the phone!
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But winning a circus side show is not equal to busting your ass to win in overtime playing the actual game. I am just insulted by the shootout. It’s a joke.
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But winning a circus side show is not equal to busting your ass to win in overtime playing the actual game. I am just insulted by the shootout. It’s a joke.
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Its good to see that everyone got out of the rink ok before it collapsed. I think it might be time that zednik pick up a safer hobby all things considered…like quilting or feeding ducks
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by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Jan 25, 2012 7:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Bewildered by whoever deciding that standing there and filming while the roof is collapsing was in some way a good idea.
Posting all the way from sunny Manchester, England.
They were moving as they were filming, though.
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pfft…rookie
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But that would ultimately be what kills him.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 25, 2012 8:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Look out for geese, though
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Flyers needed this break in the action.
Now maybe we can get JVR, Briere and Jags back and hopefully see Bob as the starter and make Bryz try to earn it back. I am looking at you Lavi, grow a pair and make a decision.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
I would actually be fine with not seeing Jagr until March, at the earliest.
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True. Save him for the playoff run.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Funny, but we’re not hearing any more refrains about how JJ closes the rink while skating around dressed with weighted vest and stick. Nice idea — when you’re Scooter’s age. Methinks Jaromir needs to shed the weights and spend more time with Joga.
by Lesion of Doom on Jan 25, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Victory Dance redux?
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It needs a musical accompaniment.
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“Come on baby, let’s do the bob. Come on baby, let’s do the bob!”
by profoundnotions on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I’m singing the Mexican hat dance in my head when I see it…
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If he were Jewish a good Hava Nagila would be in order. Some Russian equivalent.
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HAHAHAHA
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That is amazing.
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 25, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
i want this song on my ipod and a translator in the passenger seat
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I would totally Shazam it but I’m in a public place right now. Any volunteers?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
i do not like this…
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HAHA! maybe 3 people here would but it sounds like what Russia is huge, doomy epic, bloody and tragic. Some Flyers fan in Scandinavia visiting BSH introduced to me KYPCK on one of the game threads. Dude knew his metal. Besides there’s way better electronica out there than the dreck in that BOB video. This song has some Russian in the first verse, then Latin and then I’m not sure. I would have used it for the whole shoot out. I think the title accurately describes the moment at least from the goalies perspective. But that’s if I was going with electronica which I’m not as familiar with as other music, I have a Bob song which I always play when he’s in goal.
I do…
OMB!
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
So, now that I’m going to have nightmares about what j reed just posted…it’s somewhere in here. Yep, it’s exactly what you’d expect it to sound like, which is to say rather odd.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
But that to me implies disorganization or bad play.
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Seems like “Doop” would mesh well with the arm movements.
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Doop Blows! No offense to you or your suggestion of course.
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Eh, I don’t mind it, and the last game I attended at the WFC, the crowd seemed pretty into singing Doop after each goal.
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The WC alumni game was the first time I heard it in person. I’m not a fan.
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To me it sounds more like “derp” than “doop”.
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In my attempt at “living the life” this week, I was out last night, but asked for the game at the bar so I watched the third period… well until 1:30 remaining cause my friends were leaving. I might need to incorporate Bob’s dance moves tonight :)
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We need video.
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Haha… I think I’m the only one who thinks to film! I may or may not need a few drinks too :)
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by JLS89 on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
That could be arranged ;)
Bob.
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I’m not spending money tonight… so yeah.. no video :(
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We can wait
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NItty is on waivers.
Let’s pick him up for the next game!
Prepare your sleep apparatus.
On the twitterverse
I always liked Nitty.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Jan 25, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
If Columbus or Tampa Bay don’t claim him, I will be surprised.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
John Buccigross is ranking his top 100 players here is 76-100 1 current Flyer makes it & 2 ex-Flyers make it & pretty much says one of them is overrated
The Legend
99. Jeff Carter: Columbus overpaid for him. I see him as a sniping winger, not a center. He scored a lot in Philly because he shot a lot. His shots are way down this year. Incredible release and good size. Poor playoff numbers and casual play are turnoffs for me. There is so much promise here.
Carter is a center not a winger. And he will be a darnn good one for another 6 years. I can’t agree more with the casual play comment. It was what made me criticize other areas of his game.
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Selanne is only 81?! Really? Dude is still insanely good.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
there definitely seem to be some flaws. carey price better than rinne? don’t think so
by profoundnotions on Jan 25, 2012 3:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The whole thing is a bit absurd. Unless you are using stats I don’t see how you can distinguish between #100 and #101. Subjective differences become silly by the time you get to that point.
It’s useful for increasing page views and to stimulate discussion among fans.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Stats aren’t precise enough to distinguish between #100 and #101 either.
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HAH!
I knew they were limited.
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Of course they are. If hockey stats were infinitely precise, instead of making predictions like “sooner or later, the Wild are going to start losing”, we would make predictions like “the Flyers are going to win 4-2 on Tuesday, with goals from Simmonds at 14:12 of the first, Giroux (PP) at 5:18 of the second, Zolnierczyk at 18:20 of the second, and an empty netter for Couturier at 19:42 of the third.”
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It just felt good to say that. And when you get closer on those predictions we’re going into business. Like the bully in back to the future II.
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At least you can quantify the absurdity.
X had a STUD rating of 97.6 and is ranked #100.
Y had a STUD rating of 97.5 and is ranked #101.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
noise
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that’s why i hate rank lists. next to reality tv our culture seems to be fascinated with them. although i suppose theyt can offer up some interesting debates.
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Reading puck headlines on daddy and two things stood out:
1. Dancing Bob made the video of the day, awesomeness!
2. Scott Gomez has not scored a goal in over 353 days. If someone on flyers making 6 million a year stunk we would be going nuts. Silly Canadiens.
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Gomez makes $7m. Sather rules.
Was traded for what looks like a future all-star in McDonagh.
And they are going nuts, even though their puck possession numbers go in the toilet when he’s not around.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 25, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I really did enjoy the “top that” style game on Twitter of “________ has more goals this year than Scott Gomez.”
I thought Cam Ward had ended the game, but maybe Brett Lebda got it started again.
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Earlier today I was thinking about who the Flyers could dump Bryz on if by some miracle he would waive his NMC. I immediately thought of Gomez and MTL. Gomez only has $15M left after this year, and MTL might be stupid enough to go for it, if only they did not have Price. Technically if the rules are the same, the buyout would only be $10 M in cash and $3.7 on the cap for 4 years, a lot easier hit than Bryz (or even Pronger) would take.
/hey, I know it’s unrealistic, but a guy can dream, can’t he?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Plus, they could tell Bryz he could ignore any reporter comments since they would be in French
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
i hope your completely wrong..because if you are im putting this in my quotes section
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I’m actually surprised he is still here.
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He’s RFA at the end of next season. We actually don’t need to get rid of him at all, we can trade him as an RFA and still get decent return.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Flyers are always so impulsive.
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well why would he want to stay and play second fiddle. he’s got the chops to be a starter. wouldn’t we be overpaying for a back-up? .i’d think other teams are chopping at the bit to get this kid but I don’t know what other teams goalie’s situations are to say for sure.
no I’m not saying that he’ll re-sign, I’m just saying that there’s no need to be impulsive and trade him. Even if we can’t trade him over the this season and the next season and don’t want to re-sign him he’ll still be Flyers ‘property’ and as such we’ll still be able to deal him and hopefully start a bit of a mini-bidding war for him.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say other factors will come into play by the end of next season. We will know better what we have in Hovinen, Kovar is still out there, and we may draft a guy in June (Subban, maybe?). Assuming, of course, that there are no serious injuries and such.
draft a d man.. it seems to be a deep defensive draft…use the 2 rounder on subban if hes still there
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This.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Cap-free buyout and LTIR exemption in the new CBA?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
M, people already go nuts over Briere’s contract—rightfully so—and he produces in line with his career norms. I guess it could always be worse and we could have chosen Gomez or Drury that offseason though there were better options available other than the big 3. After that season, there’s no way Snider allows anything less than a big splash.
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I guess there is a bright side to everything.
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Always look on the bright side of life…
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//whistling//
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by MJDII on Jan 25, 2012 7:09 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
When your chewing on life’s gristle, ah give a whistle
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by MJDII on Jan 25, 2012 7:11 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Always look on the bright side of death…
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seriously thought the monster from cloverfeild was coming though the roof after zhitnik
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rofl
and a bruins merch ad came up for me in the middle
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seriously though the guy has turned into a 7 million dollar kent manderville
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Someone on Twitter made a suggestion that Gomez might soon be the most underrated player in the league. I’m not sure I’m on board with that, but if I were going to make the argument, it would be that:
a) Too much is made of his goal scoring outage. He was never a goal scorer, with only one season over 20 goals.
b) Like George suggested, he seems to have a huge impact on their possession numbers (data from timeonice.com):
- He was in the lineup from 10/6-10/20 and the team got 52.2% of the shot attempts (57.7% when he was on the ice, 50.0% when he was off)
- He was out of the lineup from 10/22-11/10 and the team got 49.6% of the shot attempts
- He was in the lineup from 11/12-11/23 and the team got 53.6% of the shot attempts (61.8% when he was on the ice, 50.8% when he was off)
- He was out of the lineup from 11/25-1/12 and the team got 46.5% of the shot attempts
- He has been in the lineup since 1/14 and the team has gotten 48.0% of the shot attempts (53.2% when he was on the ice, 46.1% when he was off)
c) His 0% shooting percentage and 4.7% on-ice shooting percentage are comical, but unsustainable. If he keeps pushing play toward the other net, he’ll end up with his share of points.
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Quick question for anyone with GCL
It lets you view full game replays well after those games end, right?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 4:36 PM EST reply actions
My apologies—“well after” as in “you can’t view them until well after the game ends” or “you’ll be able to view them for a time well after the game itself”?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
games are available in archive 48 hours after ending (maybe starting). Either way, two days later.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Even out-of-market games are blacked out? Did not know that. Gracias.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I don’t knwo about out of market games, but I imagine they have a 48 hour wait too.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was 24 for out-of-market, but I’m not sure.
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I just checked, it is 24 hours from puck drop for out of market games.
Good to know.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Oh sorry. It stores them for a long time. I never have to wait to watch them though because games are never blacked out for me.
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Have you watched any of the old, old archived games? For example, one I watched had Darryl Sittler’s debut w/ the Maple Leafs from 1970. There’s some fun stuff in there.
Wait.....
You can get old seventies games too? Old flyers?
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Well, it’s not like I’ve seen every game in their archive, but, to use the vernacular, they’ve got a lotta fuckin’ games. Period.
I have a lot of interest in games between 76-77 season to the 79-80 season.
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Right now, there are 12 games from the 70s on GCL. For the time period you selected:
April 11, 1978 v. COL, Preliminary Game 1
April 13, 1978 v. COL, Preliminary Game 2
May 11, 1978 v. BOS, Semi-Final Game 5
April 14, 1979 v. VAN, Preliminary Game 3
May 13, 1980 v. NYI, SC Final Game 1
May 24, 1980 v. NYI, SC Final Game 6
The other six are from 70-76.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Is this only with a subscription.
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Yeah.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 26, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
Specifically, they offer some old games in their entirety, some are 10-12 minute highlight reels. Full games are available for the last four seasons (anyteam/ any game). The earliest Flyers footage I see available is from 1969-Dick Cherry (brother of Don Cherry) scoring a goal for the Flyers. Much of it is playoff footage/games from ’74 on, but also includes the ’76 win over the Red Army.
...
#Flyers have loaned Tom Sestito, Ben Holmstrom & Harry Zolnierczyk to their AHL affiliate, the Adirondack Phantoms today.
Hopefully (especially in Harry Z’s case) this is just to help Adirondack out during the NHL All-Star break since we’ve been taking all the top AHL players from them.
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I think it is. Don’t a lot of teams send their young fringe AHL/NHL guys down for the week or so?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it makes sense. I wouldn’t mind if they had to leave Sestito or Holmstrom down (because it would mean some of the regulars were back in action)
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ADK has been short of forwards, playing Kessel and Lauridsen as forwards in their last two games. With three games in four nights, starting tonight, leading up to the AHL break, it makes perfect sense to do this.
Seriously. I mean, so many of their team is in Philly that it’s crazy.
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Numbers from DNL
Flyers are fifth in shootout points since its inception.
Obviously factors are in play in terms of chances, or Comcast being wrong, but it points to a real problem.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Dr. Steve on Jan 25, 2012 5:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh dear lord.
Per Isaac:
Oh my. @TSNBobMcKenzie just said on NHLLive that he wouldn’t be surprised if the Kings were in on Jeff Carter. Wouldn’t that be something?
I…I just couldn’t do it. It would be too much.
Though, just because I saw it mentioned in some comment over on Blueshirt Banter, I’d much rather see that than see Carter as a Ranger. That would be horrible.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 7:26 PM EST reply actions
The Kings need a goal scorer, but they don’t need a center. I would be surprised.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
You’re missing the point. The Kings need another former-Flyer. I think the temptation of having Carter, Richards and Gagne together is too much for them to bear.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I’m not missing the point. I’m pointing out that the Kings have Kopitar and Richards in the top-6, plus Loktionov on the third line.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
And I’m joking Geoff….
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
I said I wasn’t missing the point!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
hahah let me spell this out in a format you’re comfortable with :-P
The Kings need a goal scorer, but they don’t need a center. I would be surprised.
Which I agree with; it’s true enough. They’ve got a fair amount of center depth.
You’re missing the point. The Kings need another former-Flyer.
A joke: something I could’ve placed in sarcasm font. I jokingly suggested that your earlier statement missed the key facts of this trade rumor.
I’m not missing the point. I’m pointing out that the Kings have Kopitar and Richards in the top-6
A reinforcement of your original point, a point that I agreed with originally.
All good?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I knew you were joking. I was killing the joke because that’s what I do.
:)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
If Carter ends up a Ranger, I may go on a murderous rampage.
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I would hate Columbus for doing that to us. If Columbus do that Homer should send Couturier/Voracek/Cousins updates to Howson weekly if not daily.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Erectile Dysfunction?
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Tell me how you really feel…you know, Eddy likes Ayn Rand!!! ;-)
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oh i know. he lives for bondage.
and he loves getting spanked on his fountainhead.
the safeword is Roark
I wouldn’t be too worried. We’ll just match up Couturier against Carter and it’ll all be fine.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
At least we know they won’t win a cup if they depend on him to score. Not Clutch!
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I thought it was because Richards was a locker room cancer.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think Richards was a locker room divider and not a motivator and miserable. Great hard working player. Carter was just a lackadaisical uncaring under achiever. And soft!
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You’re just baiting him now.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
He was already doing that :)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
haha this is what happens when you miss the whole Flyby
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
I actually don’t do it on purpose but I type way before I organize my thoughts and then I have to just run with it trying to get back in control of my point which a dozen comments later I have completely lost track of. And even on a losing side it’s hockey talk. Hockey is a large part of my life, especially flyers hockey.
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I actually like a lot of your points. I just think it’s impossible to argue with the stats guys unless you’re ready to argue on that rational stats-based battlefield, which is why you might end up on the ‘losing side’ of the argument.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Its damn hard actually and I don’t know how to dispute a lot of the shit Eric and Geoff throw at me. I mostly believe they confuse my points by throwing so much verbiage at me in waves. I love every minute of it.
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The frameworks don’t argue together well. It’s not as intractable as the faith vs. science problem because the eye/experience argument is based on claims of knowledge arrived at from a mix of empiricism, deduction, inference. So it’s within the church of Reason.
It’s more like numbers vs.words, I think. If you’re not able to quantify your observational wisdom you’re on the opposite side of the door from the numerists, shouting through it, more or less politely. And sports in general seems to be a human activity that can be captured with numbers (as opposed to, say, most art forms), though I’m not convinced the essence can only be arrived at objectively. We trust numbers to be more truthful than words, though.
I’m finally reading Moneyball. It’s very helpful in being more conversant in the statistical paradigm. And it’s a great reminder that so much of what we consider true in life might be based on false foundations. Because of BSH, I notice when my reasoning is loose or flawed in daily life more than any time since I was at university. I believe that sound thinking is part of the good life. So it’s cool even if I don’t want to read the charts.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
My other problem is my attention span I got through half of that, sorry.
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I am to old for classification on attention span. They just said it was sesame street and my parents put me in as many sports as possible.
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Yes, some of us were referred to as “hyper” and told to sit down, do our work. You didn’t always like what happened when you got out of line, so you learned to overcome it. Now you just get Ritilan and are coddled.
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by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo!
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ehh…my dad tried that when i was younger….methylphenidate was the only thing that calmed me down until i got older
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I’m 30 and I still can’t sit the fuck still.
To make matters worse, I’ve tried at least three different medications and they’ve all made me feel ill, mostly bad nausea, I could feel it work it’s magic, but I could not deal with the way it made me felt.
Not to mention my mind is always racing and I feel mentally younger than I actually am. (My body feels much older, but that’s due to other physical issues).
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Same thing. Not a morning person, but then going all day and half the night. Do some of my best work 11Pm and later. And I’ve got 9 years on you.
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by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
have you tried slow/time release concerta?
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I think when I was trying to get back on the medication, that wasn’t covered by my insurance. But it’s the same class as Ritalin,so it might make me feel the same.
Although, when I take Xanax, it seems to help a tad.
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Man that’s rough, I feel for ya. Wellbutrin might work It’s low grade anti-depressant. Cylert also but I don’t know it they still use that in the States. There were some cases of liver toxicity that resulted in some deaths. Maybe something like taking dramamine could help with the nausea. Dunno One other thing are beta blockers. You could be experiencing anxiety that ’s perpetuating a negative bio-feedback loop. The beta blockers control the physical symptoms of anxiety to trick the brain to stop signalling the body to pump out adrenaline.
yeah excuse me I have a problem with your over reaching stereotype. I never had a problem sitting down my problem was that I can’t focus. I see a word and it sparks a whole other thought process. I was in no way coddled in school for it seeing as I wasn’t diagnosed with it until I was in college. don’t be a fucking douche and talk down about younger people just because you had it differently. there are some of us who still bust our ass and sit down just like you did asshole
by profoundnotions on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Whoa, whoa! No one attacks anyone around here on purpose, unless you make no sense. If he offended which is obvious he did, you have to realize no of us mean any harm. It’s banter. Let me apologize for my part in this insult. My wife is an elementary school principal and attention deficit/autism issues are a daily concern and an unbelievably growing issue. And truthfully its handled way differently then in my time.
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I see a word and it sparks a whole other thought process.
Hmm. I’ve always felt like this too. My mind is easily sent off on tangents. As a kid I’d open an encyclopedia to look up one thing, and end up spending hours reading about other random stuff. So sometimes I have to really concentrate to stay on task (or not get overwhelmed by the sense of “so much to do!”). I always thought it was just curiosity or having too much stuff on my mind. Maybe not?
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We don’t things like this around here. Having been an ADD sufferer and furthermore near the age of those your attacking I empathize with your frustration. I too tire of people’s of oversimplification of the disorder and lack of sensitivity towards the societal stigmas that surround it however, it’s important to realize the informality of this context and that things should be taken with grain of salt, at least in so far as your responses are concerned.
Ok. I apologize if my remarks offended you, but I believe the world as a whole is getting over drugged, and my younger brother has had to deal with it because he’s ADHD. I know what I went through as a kid, and there’s no comparison. We were expected to behave and work through it, and I would say that isn’t true of the kids I see around now. May not have been the best method, but there’s a whole lot of us that turned out just fine—I had some of the same focus issue as you, but learned to overcome them, as they still pop up from time to time.
And as M said, no need to go ballistic cause you disagree with someone.
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by JerseyDriver on Jan 26, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah there’s truth to that. ADD and like behavioral problems weren’t diagnosed back then. In fact, I don’t believe there anything close to the current recognized symptomology other than extreme cases of hyperactivity. I wasn’t diagnosed until way later in life. I think ADD and ADHD, since it’s so often diagnosed in children, has a greater chance of yielding false positives esp. as alot of the symptomatic behaviors are, frankly, typical of children being children which is why I believe, when we were kids, only the extreme cases of hyperactivity were deemed significant.
Agreed about the false positives. Seems like there’s a lot of quick draw on the prescription pads now.
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by JerseyDriver on Jan 27, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
i have A.D.H.D and didnt
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I’m actually not embarrassed to say it was over my head. I would have to research half of the words. I’m actually not an idiot but that is just not how I communicate.
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Funny....
But I have a bachelors in civil engineering from temple with a minor in construction management. But spending the last 20 or so years on job sites dumbs you down a little. A lot of laymens terms.
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I’ve been in trades for quite awhile. Welder for a bit, carpenter (remodeling) for quite a while and cabinetmaker.
I also pride myself a carpenter so that was not in disrespect. If not for my over educated parents. I would have been happy to work with my hands.
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nothing wrong with community college..im going 2 ccc simply because its 20k cheaper than going to rutgers for years..im doing 2 and 2…and maybe an MBA
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which half?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure what empiricism means.
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Empiricism is knowledge gained through the senses, through observation.
As opposed to rationalism, which is knowledge we gain because we have brains that can think abstractly, come up with concepts, associations, deductions, etc.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
But the middle paragraph is exactly how I feel. Not to mention Geoff and Eric write very well on the fly. They sell there numbers very well.
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This whole conversation is fascinating so let me throw something else out there:
I see a large difference between Eric and I, as Eric is very good at convincing others of things he believes. I’m simply very good at convincing others they are wrong.
Put another way: Eric would be a great prosecutor and I a great defense lawyer. But no way could I prosecute.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But the best ones have to convince others they’re nice. Otherwise, juries won’t believe them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
i agree. they can be relentless in different ways.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Ric is gonna be pissed he missed this. Hahahaha
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Yeah, you’re pretty Socratic. Good thing hemlock can’t be administered online.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
That is actually right on point. Eric blows me away with his points and you just follow my disjointed logic and I bury myself. But even as the two of you are obviously very good debaters, I do put up a good if not entertaining fight.
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haha, yup. And you put up a good AND entertaining fight.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I see a large difference between Eric and I, as Eric is very good at convincing others of things he believes. I’m simply very good at convincing others they are wrong.
Let’s reword that: Eric is very good at having a productive dialogue with people who disagree with him; Geoff is very good at pissing people off if they disagree with him. ;-)
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Also correct.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I was pondering something you wrote about Eric the other day. You mentioned that you, Travis, Shaun, et al have pictures, bio data, etc that can be seen/ read in your profiles. However, Eric does not, thus remaining a more mysterious entity. I considered a new fan post where anyone can create a narrative, the more outlandish the better, about who and what he really is, and that others can come along and embellish the story with additional info. After some period of time we can post a poll for which story we like best.
haha, yeah. That came after someone was like “You have a kid?! You’re 30?!?!”
It made me wonder what people who hadn’t realized that about Eric think about. We all do it… we assign qualities to people we haven’t met based on how we perceive them and others we perceive similarly.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, I already know what his career is.
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 25, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Is Eric a lawyer? I thought he was like an engineer or something technical.
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Eric works in Inorganic Chemistry.
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 25, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
is he a master at it?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Geez, M, I don’t think you have enough cliched narrative stuffed into those four sentences. Think you missed anything?
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drinking/drugs/statutory rape, all on youtube
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
but otherwise very thorough. concise. impressive.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
or Temple Hussies…which would be a great band name. Or just plain old Temple Hussy. Like that better.
Temple Husky?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
HA!
As per the Wikipedia page of my imaginary bands…
However, the Russian tour was marked by sadness. During a gig at a space camp/ amusement park on the outskirts of the small town Stary Oskol, the original drummer tragically died attempting to renact the the exploding drummer bit from Spinal Tap. Fortunately, one of the camp conselors, Illya Bryzgalov, a savant percussionist and long time Temple Hussy fan filled in for the remainder of the set and whose performance using a kit MacGyvered together from scrap MIG fighter jet fuselages (the other kit destroyed in the pyrotechnics accident), so impressed the band that the wunderkind became the new drummer then and there. Rumor has it the band changed it’s name when Bryzgalov was overheard telling a groupie that his "kit "was “husky big” . From then on the band was Temple Husky.
……..and they partied to much in old city!
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Columbus is stupid if they want to move Carter now. Buy high and sell low within half a season? Bad idea. No way they’ll get anything like Voracek, Couturier and Cousins in return.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, but if they’re going to blow it up then who knows.
Then again, apparently they’re going to keep Howson around so I have no idea what they’re doing any more.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Columbus is stupid if they want to move Carter now. Buy high and sell low within half a season?
Yeah, a team would have to be completely stupid to do that. * cough* Versteeg *cough *
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by Eric T. on Jan 25, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Which was a bad idea. I love Jagr but I would rather have Steeg here with how well he’s played this season.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, you know, he’s not pushing 40. /sadreminderofmyimpendingage
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To be fair, we have no idea if ‘Steeg would be as good here as he’s been in Florida with Fleischmann/Weiss, the same way we have no idea if G would be as good as he’s been this year with Jagr.
Not to say that trading for him and then dealing him again for less was a good idea. Because it wasn’t. But given what we had and what we know, I’ll take Jagr + 2nd + 3rd over Versteeg.
Would’ve been interesting to think about what happens this offseason with Versteeg. He’s an RFA but his price is probably gonna go up from $3M or so that he’s making now, while we can hope that Jagr’s price won’t go up THAT much from $3.3M.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed completely.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
From a purely rational economical perspective the Flyers stuffed up with Versteeg
We traded late 1st rounder + 3rd for him at the deadline (when roster players are overvalued, which is why we needed to give up a 1st)
We got back a mid-range 2nd rounder + 3rd for him in the offseason – therefore we made a loss
Consider the facts:
- Versteeg is a young nearing-his-prime player with potential
- Versteeg is an RFA at the end of this season
- Versteeg was injured in the latter part of the season, hence reducing his value due to poor play
We should have kept him, and then traded him at the end of this season for what would probably be a 1st and a 3rd if not more (as he would be an RFA commanding a decent salary). We would have likely gotten more out of him this season and gotten more out of him in the end.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Again, this all makes sense if you’re confident that Versteeg would be the same player here that he currently is in Florida, and that that player is more valuable than Jagr and what he’s brought to the team—not only by himself, but by what he’s done for Giroux and Hartnell. I’m just saying, I think that’s far from a sure thing.
Plus, I don’t know if any team would have made a trade where they’d give up exactly what we gave up, since if we’re openly dealing him it’d be somewhat Gagne-like in the sense that it’s clear we can’t afford him and therefore we wouldn’t have a ton of leverage. Obviously he’d bring a better return than Matt Walker and a 4th round pick, but I think assuming we’d get at least what we got back may be stretching it.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
didnt he practically say he would take a discount?
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He said something like that. But a lot can change between now and July. Let’s hope he meant it.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Watching wheel of fortune with the wife who got a Morton’s neuroma removed today. I’m playing nurse this week.
But Vanna is looking a little old.
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I’m listening to the Phantoms game; Leighton’s given up 4 (3 in 2:36) goals now midway through the second. When pulled, he went ballistic at the bench as Bacashua went in, a tomahawk chop with his stick into the bench. I’m having visions of a Patrick Roy-style meltdown.
But he’s the AHL all star game starter!
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 8:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Regression
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The evil tyrant does not discriminate
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
If only that bitch could have waited until the start of the 2010-2011 season to strike Leighton last time.
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One more series! That’s all we asked from you Regression, one more series!
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone else out there have a little too much interest in watching older law and orders. I mean the Jerry Orbach law and orders. I can watch them non stop.
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Angie Harmon? The dark short haired one, Jaime? Or the blonde, Syriana?
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Actually I preferred the others, specifically Jill Hennessy. She has a twin sister I hear is into threesomes.
it's very popular in vancouver
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
The stuff of nightmares
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Some things you can’t un-see, even with the best brain bleach.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
The last one, Rubarosa, was flat out hands down hot, PERIOD!
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Dudes list is upside down. And mariska is great in her role but a little mannish.
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Sorry, Mariska has “it”. That vibe. Know more than a few people who think so. Could never really figure why I liked her so much, but she’s got something that just draws you in. She’s also Jayne Mansfield’s daughter, so…
G, the second coming of Foppa.
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by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah she was my pick from that list of 10.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
It takes all kinds.
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Over the top in the picture mtitanic referenced.
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knock-knock….let him in
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
yes
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Elisabeth Rohm was my fav
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Yea, your into the paler type.
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Perhaps the Liles for JvR rumors will start now.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Hey Bud. Looking forward to returning to the music city. We had a blast.
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uhhh montreal is beating the redwings 7-2…what in the wild world a sports is a goin on here!?
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Blind squirrel. Nut.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Lidstrom out with the flu.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Only the 30th game missed in 20 years—that’s pretty spectacular.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Also:
AnsarKhanMLive Wings’ Babcock: "I’m not going to look at the video of this at all, I’m going to go out and drink, actually, is what I’m going to do.’’
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Jan 25, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Amazing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
…sure?
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
and here comes the "hes a racist" lambasting
“Don’t know if it’s fair to point this out, but Tim Thomas has three children named Kiley, Kelsey and Keegan.”
The tweet—and what some saw as a reference to KKK
dave hodge of tsn…..just wow
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Probably not racist, but Tim Thomas is clearly a dumbass.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 25, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I hate Thomas, but no man should have to endure that.
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
an old fat white guy? have you seen the kardashians?
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I’m assuming we are excluding Shrek… I mean Chloe.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 25, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
i thought she married lamar odom?
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there’s plenty of time for divorce
by profoundnotions on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
New
Hi! just wanted to pop in. Longtime reader of BSH and lifelong Philadelphia Flyers fan! Just wanted to say this blog is incredibly awesome and it is the best place for Flyers news!
"You miss 99 percent of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky" -Michael Scott
Thanks alot! I really try to keep it fresh around here. ;-)
Welcome.
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Do you have any evidence to back up that claim?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
ull scare away our rookies!
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
It’s time for him to grow up and face the sunshine. The world’s a hard place. You either adapt or perish at the hands of a statistician.
Just joking BFisch, welcome and I’m pretty sure you’ll like it here.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
just dont disagree with jeff or eric
theywill make you feel dumb… but they are harmless, much like kittens
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geoff*
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Hey now! Don’t lie.
Eric won’t do that at all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Aww, how cute!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
in a “It’s gonna bite my face off” sort of way.
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
for some reason i see that as j reeds cat…what with his dark metal and dark gifs..he would have a hardcore cat
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MICHAEL!
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now for some reason i see u as having all this dark stuff but you dress your cat up in tootoo’s and its the girliest cat ever..idk why..you dont wanna know what goes on in here
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HA!
Actually that would offend my aesthetic sensibilties. I’m not a Zoey Deschanel fanboy either. I’m not one for that cute girly girl stuff. (the guitarist pictured in the front is more my poison)
And Bowie is of course for David Bowie.
I always wanted a dog but got stuck with stray cats.
Welcome! You picked an active night to pop in.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hi guys. Interesting stuff going on in here today. I wrote an article today about how Harty should be an All-Star, and three hours later…TADA! The NHL apparently reads my stuff!
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“Law” of Attraction
So when’s your post about how the Flyers should win the Cup?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Tomorrow
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
But didn’t they announce Hartnell as an all star yesterday?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I meant…I’m tired
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Haha no worries.
Go ahead and write about the Flyers winning the cup please.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I’m probably playing Junior A Hockey in Maine next year. Kinda needed to share it. I’m pretty happy
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that’s great! congratulations.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
just remember us peons when you become a 1st liner on a shitty nhl team
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because your a 1st pick
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pfft. I couldn’t hold a first round pick’s jock strap. A fifth round pick who’s name is Troy Vance, yes. Shut him and his brother down all the time. That is, before he went to the Q
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, I’m a defenseman but sure, I’ll try.
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Can you arrange for yourself to be a later 1st round draft pick? There are some contenders back there who need some help on defense. kthanks.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but I’m also a lefty
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
use your elbows at every chance and youll be a hall of famer in no time
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I kinda play like and will almost definitely be the size of Prongs. I guess I should work on my booyah’s
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
alright baby lidstrom
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See, you can say somebody got Kronwall’d. It doesn’t work with my last name. Neither does the “-sy” nickname because my last name ends in a Z
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
scrabble Jr.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but it’s only 6 letters long.
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Can we get like an -azer type thing out of your name?
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 26, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Although I am running at 12 points in 13 games. I was out for a while with a shoulder injury. Just posted a hatty a week ago
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by FlyerFan139 on Jan 25, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Your mom must be stoked. Give em hell man and don’t let the canadian kids push you around. That’s most of there game.
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So search is over. Good luck up there. Be sure to come back down for the open ice games.
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Awwwww
Youngsters Lorraine McNamara and Quinn Carpenter, just 12 and 15 years old, took bronze with an energetic program to a techno version of Vivaldi’s “Four Seasons” that earned 76.99 points. The students of Maryland’s Wheaton Ice Skating Academy finished with 126.10.
“It was great to be able to get out and put on an act for the audience,” said McNamara, a budding actress who dreams of marrying hockey player Alexander Ovechkin.
From this article about the junior level ice-dancing competition of the US Figure Skating Championships
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
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Ewww. I guess it takes all kinds.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Hey, she’s 12! Haha, she’s so adorable on the ice. I saw the pair of them skate a routine a few years ago and it’s cute. They’re so young compared to all the others at that level of ice-dancing – next year they’ll be 2-year Nationals veterans of the junior level AND medalists, and it’ll only be their first season of international competition because the girl is so young.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
I was just hanging around at Jewels from the Crown
and heard Richards being referred to as MR. What happened to Richie?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 25, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions
He became an adult.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
He’s been “Michael” Richards rather than Mike since after the trade.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Weren’t they calling him “Ricky” for a while?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 25, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Luuuuuuuuccccccyyyy.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Jan 26, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
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