Friday Morning Fly By: Final Minute of the Third Against Chicago? Feeling Alright
by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 6:01 AM EST
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- Recaps: [BSH] [Second City Hockey] [SBN Philly] [CSNPhilly] [Philly Sports Daily] [Inquirer] [The Checking Line] [Flyers Faithful]
- Kimmo Timonen left the game (twice) with a wrist injury: [Philly Sports Daily] [CSNPhilly]
- The Phantoms' lineup is nearly set for tonight's Outdoor Classic at Citizen's Bank Park: [Phantoms Forum]
- Travis was the guest of honor on Puck Daddy Radio talking about his sleuthing of the Geno's embarrassment: [Puck Daddy]
- In case you missed it, Johan Backlund is going to Oulun Karpat in Finland for the remainder of the season: [PSPhantoms]
- Niko Hovinen had a crazy two days, stopping 39 of 42 shots Wednesday in a 4-3 win: [euroflyers] and 46 of 48 shots in a 4-2 win last night: [euroflyers]
- Jakub Kovar signed a 1 year extension with České Budějovice, but it doesn't necessarily mean he will play another year there: [euroflyers]
- Ian Laperriere is getting ready to call the Phantoms game tonight: [PostStar.com]
- Ray Emery made his return to Philly last night. He rightfully gets some (digital) ink: [NHL.com]
- In the same vein, a Former Flyers All-Star Team: [Philly Sports Daily]
- What will happen to 24/7 next year? One would think it returns, but HBO has new leadership: [Puck Daddy]
- Our friends over at Hockey Wilderness have been all over the Jack Jablonski story, and yesterday they posted three links in their daily post: [Hockey Wilderness]
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I was hoping to see Bartulis play in the AHL Classic, but he remains out since before Christmas with what is termed “an undisclosed injury”. Wonder what’s going on with him?
"That was a lot of fun. We don't go to jail, we beat up their chicken forwards, we score ten goals, and we win. And now the Moose drinks beer." -Andre "Moose" Dupont
I’m almost disappointed that I’m going to the Phantoms game, finding out that Lappy will be doing color commentary.
Although I had to laugh at part of the email I got from the Flyers about the game:
TRAFFIC ADVISORY
With the stage set for an exciting outdoor game, be sure to allow yourself plenty of time to get to the ballpark. In addition to the Phantoms vs. Hershey Bears game, the Philadelphia 76ers will be hosting their home-opener at 7pm on Friday, January 6th.
Please anticipate higher than normal traffic on the roadways and public transportation during this time.
So in addition to tens of thousands of hockey fans, there might be a few thousand sixers fans? Maybe we should give the guys at LibertyBallers a friendly heads up, they might be expecting the usual smooth sailing getting to a sixers game.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
Not sure if serious
AHL attendance record is 21k. Last year, the Sixers drew 20k fans for the home opener.
Yeah, this year’s AHL game should draw more fans than the previous outdoor games, but it’s not like the Sixers’ attendees will be an irrelevant drop in the bucket.
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Somewhat Serious
Last year the Sixers opened against the Heat and their bandwagon. The next game home game against Atlanta drew only 10,960
2009 against Milwaukee drew 14,638
2008, Toronto, 15,750.
I’d expect about 17k for the Sixers tonight. Not a drop in the bucket, but they’re expecting at least twice as many for the Phantoms game.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
The Sixers are once again starting to gain relevance in this town. Doug Collins has managed to squeeze every bit of talent out of the players and they are now buying into a team philosophy. There aren’t really any individual players that are selfish or whatnot. (I won’t start the Iggy-takes-the-last-shot argument)
They are fun to watch.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Anything else you would like to bring to the table?
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Nope, i’m already feeling pretty dirty for having looked up NBA attendance stats.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
haha I argue with my sister all the time. She hates basketball but simply because she grew up on the Flyers and can’t understand why “you can’t touch anybody.”
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I like college ball, but can’t stand the NBA. They’re just showboating. Yawn.
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Samesis… I’ve just started following college basketball more since moving
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Not that it matters but 2008 home opener was the same time as a Phillies World Series game.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
So assuming your guesses are right, and 35k show up for the Phantoms and 17k for the Sixers…
There’s a significant difference in traffic and parking for 35k vs 52k. I don’t see anything wrong with warning the people who are showing up for an AHL game just because it’s a special event that they might miss the start if they don’t plan accordingly.
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Yeah everyone may be a bit surprised at the turnout. Meltzer says the game is nearly sold out.
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And yes, I'm a female redhead.
well, according to the sixers have sold 16,500.
I’ve seen a number of references to the Phantoms sales being close to a sellout, and it doesn’t hurt that the Bears are only 2 hours away and have the best fanbase* in the league.
(* Might have had an argument with the Manitoba Moose or Philadelphia Phantoms, but with those teams gone it’s no contest)
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
I’m not sure how many of the season ticket holders that were forced to by tickets, and therefore included in the count, are either, 1, going, or, 2, if they aren’t going, were able to sell their ticket or bothered to sell it.
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On the other hand, there are less than 100 tickets on stubhub, 20 on ebay, and not too many on craigslist. We’ll see tonight.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
or bothered to sell it.
I may or may not be going, depends how work finishes up. If I don’t go the tickets will have never been listed, sold, or given away. I know 2 other season ticket holders in the same boat. I know that’s only 3 people, but given the relative low cost of this game compared to the entire package you were forced to purchase and relative lack of demand, I could picture a significant portion of season ticket holders doing the same. I know another handful of season ticket holders who gave them away, so it could be that as well and it could be close to a sellout.
Just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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I expect to see some time today about wrist surgery.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Jan 6, 2012 8:20 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Or foot surgery.
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DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
by MJDII on Jan 6, 2012 8:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
or gout
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
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Or equipment issues.
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hes dead
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
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That goal spares us the agony of totally over analyzing the team and the goaltender. Or does it. I have been trying to let Bryz work his way through the woods without getting nuts like most of the commenters have gotten. In reality goaltending is a nutty job usually played by nutty guys. In 9 years I am sure we are going to endure the rollercoaster whether it is one guy or 5, sort of like the last 9 years. I’m not happy when he plays bad but come on people get a hold of yourselves. Thanks god there was no jones punch last night. We would have lost half the group.
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by MJDII on Jan 6, 2012 8:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure I have ever agreed with you more, M.
At least the freaker-outers have a self-consistent position. They believed (wrongly) that there are goalies who can carry their teams every single game; they believed (correctly, given the first assumption) that such a goalie would be worth huge money; they were extremely excited (correctly, given the second assumption) about bringing Bryzgalov in; and now they are incredibly disappointed and frustrated that Bryzgalov has not turned out to be one of their mythical great-in-every-game goalies.
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im just dissapointed he cant but up better numbers than our back up or atleast post a .920 sv % like his average
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
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His average before this year was .916. Last year, Bobrovsky was at .915. This is precisely why we argued on this site that we shouldn’t expect Bryzgalov to dramatically improve the Flyers goaltending.
With that being said, I’m also disappointed that he’s nowhere near .916; he’s definitely having a crappy year so far, worse than I would have thought was likely. But again — even over the last two years when he has been very good, he’s had stretches like this before. It’s just how goaltending is: prone to variance.
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by Eric T. on Jan 6, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
his career average is .916? well i guess median since he became a starter would fit my thoughts more effectively
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
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It was .916; it’s .914 now. (Oof.)
In the last four years, he posted .920, .906, .920, .921. The average of those four years is .9168. I can see why someone might look at that and hope for .920 (the median result), but unless he was hurt that year (and he played 65 games), it’s just as much a reflection of his talent as the others and should be averaged in.
Also, Jeffie focused on just the last two years (the .920 and .921) in his comparison to past years, but the way Bryzgalov landed at .906 in ‘08-09 was by posting a .896 save percentage over the final 31 games that year. So this year’s results are definitely within the range of what we should expect from him, though it should be unusual.
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Well, even if his current sv% on the season is well below his career average (as well as the league average), let’s look beyond the net, just our of curiosity. Are the Flyers allowing more shots against than they did last year? Are they allowing more than Phoenix did last year? How do our shots and goals for compare to last year?
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id like to know bobs save% b4 lavvy tried making him a rookie workhorse… lavy handled bob pretty shittily twords the last half of the season, and of course the playoffs
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
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I’m a little confused by your question. Bobrovsky started 11 straight games starting in October; you don’t mean that you want to know what his save percentage was before that, do you?
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Flyers starters in October-November last year
Bob
Boosh
Bob
Boosh
Bob
Bob
Boosh
Boosh
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Bob
Boosh
Boosh
Bob
Bob
Boosh
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yeah my question was what was bobs numbers B4 he had the steep dropoff from overplaying
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
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Oooh, oooh! I looked at that too :)
Well, starting from February 18th and going to the end of the regular season anyway.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Lunch break, bitch. :)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Are you coming up tonight? If so, shoot me a text as I’ll be where you’ll be
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ah. Well, I’m nervous about the causal link, but I’ll take a stab at it.
- He had a .925 save percentage from the opener to the end of his 12-game starting streak (16 games played in 42 days, so I’ll break the season into ~42-day segments).
- He played in 10 games in the next 43 days, with a .898 save percentage.
- He played in 8 games in the next 42 days, with a .926 save percentage.
- He played in 10 games in the next 42 days, with a .908 save percentage.
- He played in 10 games in the last 42 days, with a .913 save percentage.
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so whats the verdict…was bob tired or was he regressing?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
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I’d bet that he’s not a .925 goaltender in the long term, since no goalie has ever had a career number that high.
So if you mean “why did he stop performing at a .925 clip”, the answer is regression.
If what you mean is “was he at only ~.910 over the last 20 games because that’s his talent level or because he was worn out from that first month of the season”, then that’s unanswerable — it takes a few seasons before we know a goaltender’s true talent, because they’re so variable.
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by Eric T. on Jan 6, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but what’s the t-test?
:)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Way to use the new vocabulary word in a sentence. You get a gold star.
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He’s played bad and we’re still doing well. He will almost certainly play better in the future, when our scoring will almost certainly fall off.
We’ll be fine. More than that, there’s not much we can do about it. Everyone should just sit on their thumbs until March.
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though
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Kind of wish the playoffs started today. I’d love to play the Senators in the first round. At this point, the only teams I’d want to avoid are the Bruins and Rags.
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I don’t think anyone is stopping the Bruins anytime soon.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
The Habs or TB IMO
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 6, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
Based on? Style of play?
Bostons record vs them:
1-0 vs Tampa
2-2 vs Montreal
And both of their loses to Montreal came in October when they sucked.
Not saying your wrong, who knows, they very well may beat Boston, I just don’t see anything in those admittedly small numbers to see a pattern of success vs Boston.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
TB can beat anyone with their style of play. Their style of play minimalizes everyone’s offensive talent, including their own. Montreal will give Boston fits simply because they’re Montreal
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 6, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying last years Flyers were as good as the Bruins seem to be at this point, but I don’t think we would have guessed how bad they would go on to be down the stretch and into the playoffs, last year.
Hopefully the Bruins are peaking now and start to head down hill, like the Flyers did last year, and fizzle out when it matters.
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by Mitchell Green on Jan 6, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
I want to believe that, and then they hand out 9-0 beat downs.
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That is all.
I’d at least like them to stop outscoring their opposition 2 to 1 because that’s kind of crazy.
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in their last 10 games they’ve outscored their opponents 49-13, or about 3.75 to 1.
also posted 4 shutouts.
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by coheedandtbs on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Boston plays in a shitty division. Ottawa is not a good team, Toronto is not a good team, buffalo is sucking pretty bad as is Montreal. That is not to say that Boston is not a good team because they are, but it is easy to out score bad opponents.
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by bfrank27 on Jan 6, 2012 11:42 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
you’re right, but in their last 10 they’ve only played Mon and Ottawa from their division.
I guess it’s also worth noting that 9 of those10 teams have a minus goal differential as well.
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by coheedandtbs on Jan 6, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Is it really that shitty of a division? They’re 100-75-22, after all — or for the SABR-inclined, they have an aggregate 49.8% Fenwick close and some great goaltenders.
Do you think the Southeast is stronger? Or the Northwest? Or do you just think everything but the Atlantic and the Central is shitty?
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by Eric T. on Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are on fire today, Eric.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
If you take Boston out of those figures, the rest of the division’s record is 74-65-21, which based on points percentage would be a pace of about 87 points over the course of the season. I realize small sample size, but that figure of 87 would not be enough to earn a playoff spot in any season in the east since the lockout.
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So your assessment of whether a division is shitty is based on whether the bottom four teams average record would make the playoffs? That’s a strange way to do it, but even so…
The bottom four in the Southeast are 70-71-17 (81 points per 82 games). The bottom four in the Northwest are 77-72-15 (84.5 pts per 82). The bottom four in the Pacific are 71-69-19 (83 pts per 82).
So I ask again: is every division but the Atlantic and the Central shitty?
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by Eric T. on Jan 6, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its always going to depend on how you look at data. I wasn’t using the bottom four for any reason other than my argument was that boston plays in a shitty division, so when you used the whole divisions record, I removed Boston to show how the other teams were. My opinion isn’t necessarily based on that “the bottom 4 teams wouldnt make the playoffs” but it does have some weight in my mind, because as much as a win is a win, when a team like columbus, or edmonton, or the Islanders are you opponent on any given night, as a Boston, or Vancouver, or Philly fan, you expect the team to come away with the 2 points. Boston plays 6 games against 4 teams that, based on my quick record analysis, are against teams where probably 7 or 8 out of 10 times you would expect a team like Boston to come away a winner. Ill do a few things to try to give some not-too-manipulated statistical data to maybe clarify a little more.
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Boston plays 6 games against 4 teams that, based on my quick record analysis, are against teams where probably 7 or 8 out of 10 times you would expect a team like Boston to come away a winner.
First of all, I think your perception of how often better teams beat lesser teams is wildly inflated. The league average is about 91 points, so their 87-point-averaging division rivals are just a little below average. A team that will win 7 or 8 times out of 10 against slightly-below-average opponents will presumably win about 7 out of 10 against average opponents and end up with about 57 wins. No team has won more than 54 games since the ‘05-06 Red Wings, so I doubt your estimate of the Bruins’ chances is accurate.
Second of all, you still haven’t answered the question I’ve asked twice. Given that the #2-5 teams in the Southeast, Northwest, and Pacific divisions have even worse records than those on the Northeast, do you think that those divisions are all shitty too?
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Yes, I think they are shitty divisions. They have some good teams, but divisionally, they are the West Division to the 1967 expansion’s east. If the salary cap was supposed to bring parity to the league, it’s done a pretty terrible job. Average league rank of the teams in the divisions are as follows(not including tie breaks, basing solely on points to determine rank/30):
ATL – 13.2 (2 top 10 teams, 1 bottom 10)
NE – 15 (1 top 10 team, 2 bottom 10)
SE – 19.6 (1 top 10 team, 2 bottom 10)
CEN – 11.4 (3 top 10 teams, 1 bottom 10)
NW – 14.6 (2 top 10 teams, 2 bottom 10)
PAC – 16.6 (1 top 10 team, 1 bottom 10)
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Additionally, in games between divisions, teams win/loss and points percentages against the 6 divisions are as follows (only including games against different division opponents, i.e. Flyers record in games against ATL opponents not included).
Teams Vs. -
ATL – 50.68% Points 43.84% Straight W/L (146 Games)
NE – 55.32% Points 48.94% Straight W/L (141 Games)
SE – 59.80% Points 56.08% Straight W/L (148 Games)
Cen – 52.36% Points 47.3% Straight W/L (148 Games)
NW – 56.47% Points 50.36% Straight W/L (139 Games)
SW – 58.21% Points 53.73% Straight W/L (134 Games)
Now, without doing a whole team by team analysis, I can’t be sure, but I feel pretty comfortable venturing a guess that taking out games against the top ranked team in any division, those numbers will dramatically increase for the NE and the NW divisions, probably the NE more so than the NW, but if we are to take anything from the articles from the flybys about how bad Minnesota really is then their regression to the mean will bring that figure closer to where I would expect it to be based on that division’s performance last year.
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Also, you can use a league average to determine an average points, but that wont help to calculate any kind of comparison between good teams and bad teams, you have to break it down into groups of some form. Projecting out this year’s teams’ records, assuming current pace for points percentage, the league average comes to 90.89, to give some weight to your figure regarding that, and to use what I’ve calculated to compare with that.
Top 15 vs bottom 15 points averages are:
Top – 102.94
Bottom – 78.83
Thirds:
Top 3rd – 107.03
Middle 3rd – 93.08
Bottom 3rd – 72.56
Groups of 5:
Top 5 – 111.14
Second 5 – 102.92
Third 5 – 94.77
fourth 5 – 91.38
Fifth 5 – 80.76
Bottom 5 – 64.35
Do some of those figures look unreasonable? Yeah, I don’t think there will be 5 teams that get 110+ points, but I am sure there could be 2 or 3. I think the middle 10 in any of my calculations is close since may people think around 90 points is a playoff cutoff, I can see the middle 10 as the group thats fighting for the 5 or 6-8 seeds in both divisions, and the only other number that looks really low as an average is that bottom 5 on the groups of 5 breakdown, again, i dont think there would be 5 teams with as few as 64 points, but I could see one or two.
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Yes, I think they are shitty divisions.
It seems like we’re in agreement that the NE is an average division, maybe third or fourth best. The only thing we’re in disagreement about is whether it’s fair to use the word “shitty” to describe the average.
I can live with that.
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Yeah, maybe I was a little too harsh, I dont think Montreal is a shitty team, but I dont think that Ottawa is as good a team as they are playing right now. Boston is definitely a powerhouse in an average division (10-2 so far in divisional play) though. As a follow up to my previous post, 10-11 point averages by the same groupings above come out to:
top 15 – 102.33
bot 15 – 81.47
top 10 – 104.90
mid 10 – 94.60
bot 10 – 76.20
1st 5 – 108.20
2nd 5 – 101.60
3rd 5 – 97.20
4th 5 – 92.00
5th 5 – 82.60
6th 5 – 69.80
but true that even this way the calculation comes to between 55-60%, though I suppose if you factor in the extra point that could be gained from OT/SO losses, you could perhaps expect a good team to come away from a game against a bad team with at least a point somewhere between 60 and 70% of the time.
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Everyone but the Flyers are shitty. And the Flyers suck.
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or this...
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 6, 2012 9:14 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Dr Feelgood here....
Vics are usually pretty large horse pills. Perfed so you can break in half.
If you have one of these you’ll be good.
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just got a prescription for liquid motrin since the oral surgeon says that I shouldn’t need much. only had the one wisdom tooth and it wasn’t difficult to remove.
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 6, 2012 10:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, I need to schedule an appointment with the oral surgeon sometime. Last summer my dentist discovered I have a 5th wisdom tooth that had somehow gone unnoticed when my other 4 were removed 12 years ago. Or, I should say, I discovered it when I felt this hard thing sticking out of my gums that wouldn’t budge and asked what the hell it was. (So if I was cranky last spring, it’s because I was teething!) I just keep putting it off because of grad school and playing concerts/shows and it hasn’t bothered me at all.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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In fairness, it was well behind where normal x-rays are taken. They had to take a panoramic one to see it after I noticed it when it came in. It only took it 12 years longer than the other 4 to come in.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Good luck!! Soft food diet, ice and motrin for the next 2 weeks!
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I guess I’d still hire them for my birthday party.
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DG gets a mention in the paper as part of BSH beatdown of Neary.
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The most interesting part to me is that they will write ‘ass’ in the paper but not ‘tit’. I’d have considered ass to be mild profanity and tit to be mere slang.
On a post about the assault on the Facebook page of the Broad Street Hockey blog, a man named Edward Neary claimed responsibility for the attack, writing, in part: “it was me and my friends do somethin about it” and “They started it the one guy slapped my girls ass and licked her [breast].”
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That is interesting. Hmm.
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I prefer
On a post about the assault on the Facebook page of the Broad Street Hockey blog, a man named Edward Neary claimed responsibility for the attack, writing, in part: "it was me and my friends do somethin about it" and "They started it the one guy slapped my girls [donkey] and licked her [chickadee]."
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbALbZ9bHFU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dg-rated%2Bfilth%2Boswalt%26oq%3Dg-rated%2Bfilth%2Boswalt%26aq%3Df%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3De%26gs_upl%3D337l6872l0l7045l20l19l0l10l0l0l339l1777l1.4.3.1l9l0#t=43s" target="new">G-rated filth!
NSFW, people. Just so you know.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Link fail.
Again, NSFW or polite company.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
The funny thing is, now that he has backtracked in all of this, he essentially made up something about a guy who turned out to be a cop and if anyone will get the benefit of the doubt it would be him. This Neary fellow might be the stupidest person on the face of the Earth.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I mean, “tit” IS one of the seven words you can never say on television. I guess it carries over to print.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 6, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Me = joke killer
From wiki:
Some of the words on Carlin’s original list have since been used to some degree on broadcast television in the United States. The word tits was uttered on the first episode of The Trials of Rosie O’Neill in 1990, sparking some controversy. It has been also uttered more recently in the popular Jimmy Kimmel video “I’m Fucking Ben Affleck,” in which Ben Affleck utters “Hey, Sarah, he’s got bigger tits”, which originally aired on the After Oscar special of the ABC show Jimmy Kimmel Live after the 80th Annual Academy Awards, all without incident.
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I certainly hope they get the guys who did this. As for the story in the Daily News, I found this to be the most interesting part:
Fans on the Broad Street Hockey blog lambasted Neary in the comments section, calling him a “moron,” “a nincowpoop” and a “jabroni.”
Instead of just saying that BSH followers ripped Neary in the comments section, they felt it necessary to specify the names used, including that someone called Neary a “Jabroni”. Obviously, this whole story is no laughing matter, but that sentence gave me a chuckle.
"That was a lot of fun. We don't go to jail, we beat up their chicken forwards, we score ten goals, and we win. And now the Moose drinks beer." -Andre "Moose" Dupont
Jabroni. Cool word, bro.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
It’s an attempt to make Philly fans look bad again, even the ones that are trying to solve a crime are jerks.
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How is calling someone who beat the crap out of someone and admitted to it a “nincowpoop,” which isn’t even a real word, going to make us look like jerks? If they can’t see the irony, they are part of the problem.
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I wouldn’t be surprised at all if some people take that as Philly fans trash-talking and being classless, even if the recipient was more than deserving.
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Well, again, this goes back to my real problem with all of this…the audacity of the sanctimonious. There are several reactions to a fight like this:
1) Typical Philly fan, classless animals (not helpful, part of the problem)
2) Sanctimonious jerks in our own fanbase who distance themselves and say things like “your a black mark on us all” and “this is why we can’t have nice things” (again, part of the problem)
3) What can we do to help and eliminate this? (BSH, helpful, wants to be part of the solution)
Fuck #s 1 & 2. They don’t get it and they never will.
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How painful was last nights 24/7? Can’t bring myself to watch seeing as I am not quite over that embarrassing loss to the Rags just yet. Maybe I can skip the bad stuff lol.
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Bearable until the last 15 minutes, but those were worse than getting a root canal. You really wouldn’t miss out on too much if you shut it off once the third started
by Clutterbuck4MVP on Jan 6, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I’d watch the last couple of minutes wrap up. The close of the show was pretty phenomenal, no matter who you root for.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree 100%. Watch the entire episode,because the close,and the very last shot could not have been any more relevant/fitting/tongue in cheek. I cheered.
by adlib19 on Jan 6, 2012 10:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I only saw the last part of the show, from the practices the day before the Winter Classic to the end. Even knowing the outcome of the game, I sat through it. It was still really well-done. In fact, I think that knowing the outcome made it easier to take.
And you’re right, the wrap-up was very cool and will even please Flyers fans.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I'll put it this way
When the show ended, I had tears in my eyes and a smile on my face.
You won’t regret watching it.
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Now all day I’m going to be thinking of what got cropped out of the pic.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions
You can click the see more photos link and see what was cropped out. I’m assuming that he’s talking about the dude in orange who is beside himself with joy.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 6, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm. Many times before I’ve wanted to see a picture bigger, but when I click on the picture (which always says “browse more photos” when you mouse over it), it shows me some other picture and I never see the one I want in the little matrix on the right. I’m surprised clicking this picture actually shows me the same picture.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yeah, if you click on it, you’re just directed to the most recent photos in our gallery. So if we pick a photo from awhile back (say the 2010 Stanley Cup Finals), it just goes to last night’s game photos.
It kinda sucks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
The Second City Hockey link goes to Flyers Faithful, just a heads up.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 10:14 AM EST reply actions
Thanks. Late night copy fail.
Fixed
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ex-Flyers All Star team.
Love it. Back when I got the new sega/playstation/xbox game every year, I always did this, made a custom team out of the former Flyers. Rod Brind’amour was usually the captain.
Flyers, Phillies, Union, Eagles, Phantoms, Wings.
Agreed, avery entertaining game...
although Van ries dagger penetrated deeply, mortally wounding many in Chi-town. Flyers are a pretty “offensive” lot. I rember commenting two years ago that it was going to take a lot of money to sign Giroux – I believe you guys inked him at a relative bargain.
Hartnell’s shot was the backbreaker. Keith is getting ready with his stick to meet Hartnell’s when the puck hits the ice. A great play by probably the best player on the ice last night – and there were a lot of good ones.
What the hell is with your end boards – looks like they are made out of super rubber.
your defensive end looks a little suspect at the moment. It seems every team in contention is trying to acquire a solid top for d-man. Doesn’t seem l;ike there are that many available.
This is certainly refutable point, but I thought both goalies played quite well last night.
Hey, anyone for a rematch of the 09/10 cup final?
Finally, Shaw kicked Rinaldo’s ass!
Finally, Shaw kicked Rinaldo’s ass!
I sincerely hope you forgot the sarcastic font for this.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Moose
actually, despite being a bloody mess, the kid landed two solid haymakers. It seemed like rinaldo just wanted to get him to the ground. From what I’ve seen and read about Shaw – well lets just say he reminded me of Mark Rypien. Rypien had incredibly quick fists and was not afraid of anybody. (i remembe him taking a run at Byfuglien).
Truthfully though, this is the type of fight that needs to be tasken out of the game imo.
Mark Rypien?
You sure you aren’t thinking of Ken Norton Jr?
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Youtube is blocked? Lame.
It shows a football player throwing a bunch of punches at the goalposts after scoring, ’cuz the only Mark Rypien I could think of was the quarterback.
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End boards are made out of flubber.
Flyers are a pretty "offensive" lot. […] your defensive end looks a little suspect at the moment.
You are confused. The Flyers became a defensive-minded team that would win lots of games 2-0 by trading away their star two-way forwards to make room for a goalie and Jagr. The main stream media told us so.
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i'm certainly no authority on Bryz, but the defense was shoddy in front of him last night.
We get the same thing at Second city hockey all the time, especially about Crawford lately. It’s always the goalies fault whne they leti in three or more – ussually with a caveat that "admittedly he didn’t have a lot of help.
Then you get the Thomases and Lundquists who seemingly overcome the mistakes in front of them.
You guys are pretty banged up on the blue line – might have something to do with it.
1st goal was Carle
2nd goal was bad D but still savable
3rd and 4th goals were just every day wrist shots, one by a defenseman.
So 1/2 the goals he gave up were all his fault and one was just bad play from everybody.
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I respectfully disagree with Kaners shot - it was wicked. In the mail slot.
I think the best save of the night was Bryz on Sharp in the first. pipe to pipe. highway robbery. Tazer gets pissed off about that crap.
I really envy your teams management though. Knowing you have a very good, young goalie for the future, you signed a dependable spot-starter guy for a low contract, instead of spending huge for a guy for 9 years.
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shhhh - don't give Stan any ideas.
Emery has been a very pleasant surprise – quite a character from what i’ve read on him also.
Bryz is a world class goalie – I used to hate Coyote games. It was like trying to get a fastball past Ted Williams.
Bryzgalov actually had good positioning on Kane’s shot, even though he went into the butterfly. He made it so that Kane could only score with an extremely well-placed shot over the shoulder – which he did. My initial reaction was that Bryz screwed up on that, but after the replay he really didn’t.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
So that’s why I keep reading “Remember when everyone was concerned about the offense?” stories and have no idea to whom they are refering?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. It’s true — when Richards and Carter were traded, most of the MSM stories were “where will we get back the 65 goals they scored?”
And the answer was usually “we’ll get 15 each from Voracek and Simmonds and the new defensive focus with a premier goalie will make up most of the other 35. And even if the goal differential is down a little, that defensive focus is what they need to win in the playoffs.”
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“Brian Burke on fighting being down in the NHL.”http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7431423/toronto-maple-leafs-brian-burke-calls-decline-fighting-dangerous-trend
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Since it’s ESPN, and they know nothing about hockey, it’s no surprise there is no mention of the instigator penalty. IMO, that is the biggest thing keeping players from policing dirty hits themselves on the ice. Instead you end up with fights like the one last night between Rinaldo and Shaw, which, while entertaining, have 0 impact on the game, as far as I can tell.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
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by MaximumTalbot on Jan 6, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Trainer: We’re just going to make a little hole.
Simmer: A hole? How big a hole?
Trainer: Just a little hole.
And Simmer stares at him in horror.
Just too funny, he looked like a ten year old having to get a shot.
The screech that thing made will haunt me for weeks.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
PDO
does anyone know where I can find team shooting % and save % data? I’m sure it’s somewhere on behind the net, but I can’t find it
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Yeah, it’s under the ‘team metrics’ link. You can get something like this, which lists 5v5 shooting and save percentages.
Also interesting: a spiffy chart of a team’s PDO over the course of the season.
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perfect, thanks a lot.
looks like hockey’s corsi is going way up vs today work’s.
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by coheedandtbs on Jan 6, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Am I wrong to think that even with a strong JVR and the offense surging that the rest of the league is still laughing at our defense and goalies?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 6, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions
well I mean…there are a lot of funny Bryz quotes now
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by coheedandtbs on Jan 6, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
so OT
did any1 catch the greys anatomy from last night…had my girlfriend crying from saddness to crying with joy in a matter of 10 seconds…some would say she was in a glass case of emotion…..
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Don't know how true but this is what Panotch says...
no Timonen at prax. he apparently took shot off left hand in WC; not from Chi game
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I knew our D needed a shot in the arm, but I didn’t imagine it like this.
/rimshot
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I understand that FLYERROB will be at the Phantoms game tonight. If your going to the game, be sure to say hi to him. He will probably be speaking in CAPSLOCK, so you can’t miss him.
by mtitanic on Jan 6, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He said over at SCH that Kane’s goal was soft.
Is this real life?
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 6, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
or is this fantasy?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 6, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
caught in a landslide
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no escape from reality
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 6, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Open your eyes,
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MICHAEL!
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I’m just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
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Because I’m easy come, easy go
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little high,little low
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Any way the wind blows, doesn’t really matter to meeeeee
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Mama,
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
just killed a man
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger
now he’s dead
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Mama, life had just begun
But now I’ve gone and thrown it all away
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Mamaaaaa oooh,
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
didn’t mean to make you cry
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
If I’m not back again this time tomorrow,
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Too late, my time has come,
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sends shivers down my spine, body’s aching all the time
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Goodbye, ev’rybody, I’ve got to go,
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Alright, see ya later!
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aww boo…we were over halfway there
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AAHHH NOT AGAIN!
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 6, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Was it the same cat?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Sorry to say but I don’t get it.
Matrix reference?
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 6, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Bryz...
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Matt Read for Calder!
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Am I wrong to think that even with a strong JVR and the offense surging that the rest of the league is still laughing at our defense and goalies?
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by coheedandtbs on Jan 6, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
He’s fantastic.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 6, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Run him out of town with pitchforks and torches!!!
by hebrew hammer on Jan 6, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
How about a knife-wrench?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Bryz is crazy enough to be excited, not scared about the knife-wrench! Haha.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 6, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Uh-oh?
Harry Z’s nameplate moved to Pronger’s old locker. #Flyers
(from Carchidi)
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Also according to Carchidi, Blair Betts skated today. Interesting.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 6, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions
Yeah. Will he get waived again? Or awkwardly welcomed back? (“Hehe, um, yeah, sorry about that Blair, it must have been some kind of clerical error.”)
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well..do we sit rinaldo for him?
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I would, but since the team kept Rinaldo while waiving Betts, I assume they won’t.
Although if I’m right about the organization’s short-term memory, I guess it depends mostly on what they think of Rinaldo’s play the last couple games or maybe weeks.
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well since rinaldo is supposed to be our energy guy and he looks (with my eyes) to be providing good 4th line pressure…what does betts bring that we dont have
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I just think Betts is better at hockey than Rinaldo.
Rinaldo has a Corsi Rel of -17 while playing with Couturier and Zolnierczyk and starting in the offensive zone 52% of the time.
Last year, Betts had a Corsi Rel of -19 while playing with Powe and Shelley and starting in the offensive zone 27% of the time.
The Corsi is about the same, and I’d call Powe for Zolnierczyk a wash. Then you’re left comparing Couturier to Shelley as a linemate and comparing 52% offensive zone starts to 27%.
Betts was put in much tougher situations and achieved roughly the same results. He’s not nearly as noticeable, but he gets the job done.
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ANA’s Andrew Gordon and Matt Smaby clear waivers. FLA’s Bill Thomas and PHI’s Matt Walker on waivers.
HALLELUJAH
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IT'S TEBOW TIME!
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Now if only someone would take him…
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if some1 takes him doesnt it still count against our cap? wouldnt we rather him be sent down
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No, I think he’d be gone. He’s still (half) on our cap if he’s claimed on re-entry waivers.
That said, I doubt anyone would do us that huge a favor by taking him off our hands…
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Doesn’t count against our cap when he’s waived from the NHL roster.
by hebrew hammer on Jan 6, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Poor Matt Walker. He gets healthy scratched for the Winter Classic, and now he won’t go through the waiver process in time to play in the Phantoms’ outdoor game.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 6, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
So true. Was he in Chicago for the Wrigley WC?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2012 4:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I guess this means Gustafsson is ready to come back? Since there is no Kimmo and no Faulkner, we only have Coburn, Carle, Meszaros, Lilja, and Bourdon. Either Gustafsson goes tomorrow or they’re bringing back Marshall…?
Or do the Flyers have a trade brewing?
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Heh. I just got an “NHL Newsletter” e-mail that includes a recap of the Winter Classic, which begins:
The temperature at puck drop for the 2012 Bridgestone NHL Winter Classic between the New York Rangers and Philadelphia Flyers was 41 degrees with a minimal amount of wind swirling around Citizens Bank Park.Yet I distinctly remember the NBC crew mentioning multiple times that it was very windy, including shots of the flags out straight, and that it kept changing direction, again showing that the American flag had gotten itself tangled. I can’t see the rest of the article because the link doesn’t work (surprise, surprise), but I wonder if the rest of it is from the perspective of Bettman’s dream-world too? :-p
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During the 24/7 broadcast, there was a scene with the refs talking about how the wind was slowing up long distance passes and generally slowing down action.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 6, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
It was very windy in general. if it weren’t for the wind I wouldn’t have been freezing my cheeks off.
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Yup, it was the same way at the alumni game, too.
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yes manayunk mike, because we need another underachieving player at a 6.8 million dollar cap hit
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MICHAEL!
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also theres talk of trying to tender weber a contract and pay the rfa price
or grabbing suter in fa…how would people like a D core of suter/weber(just for sake of arguing i know it wont happen) gleason(if we trade for him and re up)carle,coburn,mez,timmonen for next season? would that legitimatly make us have the best d in the league?
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Sounds great ... there's only one catch.
Weber $7.5m
Suter $3.5m
Gleason $2.75m
Carle $3.44m
Coburn $4.5m
Meszaros $4.0m
Timonen $6.33m
That’s $32.2 million. On defensemen. Currently the team is spending $25.3 million. So you’ll need to cut $7 million worth of players salary from somewhere else … http://www.capgeek.com/
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reply fail … that’s to Reaper.
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by MaximumTalbot on Jan 6, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I think the intention was Suter OR Weber, and the rest. So choosing Suter instead of Weber takes 7.5m off of that and you’re back to the $25m ballpark. But I’m sure it’s not that simple, since there are forwards who will need to be signed as well.
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Plus the fact that you need to move Pronger, or you can’t sign anyone before he goes to IR on Day 2 of the season. And Lilja is signed for next season. As is Walker. And Carle is NOT, so unless he agrees to the same salary you are looking at a raise there.
And yeah – then you can address the forwards (Jagr, Vorcek, Harry Z, Betts, Testwuide, Holmstrom, Sestito) and the others.
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by MaximumTalbot on Jan 6, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
either suter or weber…honestly id rather have suter i dont think any player is worth 7mil
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I’ll have to agree, I’d want Suter more than Weber especially if Suter can be had for about 3.5M (which I am sure his price tag will be higher than that in FA). Plus I’ve read that Weber plays much better when Suter is in the lineup and Suter can hold his own.
I think that we may be able to swing a deal for him with the Predators since I think they’d rather keep Weber, and we’ve been trade partners in the past. Plus we’d know more about Pronger’s situation by then if he has a chance of coming back or will be LTIR’ing his skates, so we can re-sign Suter if need be.
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honestly idk if id trade ….maybe for his rights so we dont over pay but theyd want more than im giving if we can sign him as a fa anyway in july
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Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Yeah, I didn’t really think too much into the trade (mainly, that we need to give up something lol). But if he is the right price and we don’t need to shake up anything on this roster, sure pull the trigger. If not trading for his rights (which will probably cost a 3rd or 4th rounder) would be the right move I think.
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