Monday Morning Fly By: That Weekend Could Have Been Better
by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 9, 2012 6:00 AM EST
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Recaps: [BSH] [Silver Seven] [CSNPhilly] [Daily News] [Philly Sports Daily] [Flyers Faithful]
- After beating Hershey at Citizens Bank Park on Friday, the Phantoms and Bears got in a brawl near the Phantoms bench Saturday. More on this at 9 a.m. today. Video: [YouTube]
- Niko Hovinen stopped 27 of 31 shots in a 5-4 loss: [euroflyers]
- Jakub Kovar stopped 29 of 33 shots in a 4-0 loss: [euroflyers] and followed up by stopping 32 of 34 in a 4-2 win: [euroflyers]
- The Penguins will be without both Jordan Staal and James Neal for a long period of time: [Puck Daddy]
- Brad Marchand is claiming self defense for his hip-on-knee check to Sami Salo: [Puck Daddy]
- Why the NHLPA rejected the realignment: [SBNation.com] [Puck Daddy]
- Ted Leonsis says the Capitals won't be hosting the Winter Classic in 2013, as Detroit is still the favorite: [SBNation.com]
- Bill Clinton watched the Rangers play the Panthers last week. He was given a puck, and he responded with a salute: [Puck Daddy]
- Other Montreal Canadiens fan complaints: [Down Goes Brown]
- Looking at the best and worst summer signings, determined by roughly 35 games played. The Flyers feature prominently here: [Hockey Prospectus]
- Do head coaches focus on matching players up against opponents or where the faceoff will be? [On the Forecheck]
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Spent a bit of time on this fanpost; would appreciate it if you guys could take a look :-). It’s looking at Giroux’s play so far compared to the other elite forwards in the league.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 6:37 AM EST reply actions
Things that confuse me (warning HBO spoilers)
- how Rangers fans manage to see that Giroux/Hartnell/JVR discussing about “doing the Anisimov” and say that the Flyers are clearly not focussed on the game and are more interested in showboating to the crowd, while the Rangers are clearly all about winning and will therefore go further in the big games. Does anyone know what h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y spells?
- how Rangers fans manage to see Torts calling for the Rangers to not shake hands with the Flyers while the Flyers are waiting for them on the ice, and say the Flyers are “classless” for not shaking hands
- how Rangers fans can see HBO 24/7 and come out with the impression that Giroux is a prick….
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 6:40 AM EST reply actions
I still need to watch that episode. Wondering if I should
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 9, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
You should. G comes off as a total boss. The dude is hilarious. There’s also some great Lavy coaching moments too.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
meh on that second part
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 9, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Tortorella, overall, gave his team more useful information with his speeches. In general, he was more specific about what was happening at that time and what to do about it. Laviolette relied more on the language of motivation and repetition of phrases and themes. Impossible to know how much either guy’s speeches were out of the norm because of the cameras.
More generally, I noticed re-watching two of the episodes while doing something else that much of the language was not much better than the crappy cliches you get in the course of regular interviews of players. There were exceptions, and we remember those, but I was disappointed with the quality of the talk in the third and fourth episodes. I thought last year’s series was considerably better.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 9, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
And remember that what you do see is heavily edited. HBO has narratives they want to push for their story lines. It was even more unbalanced last year with Bylsma and BB.
Please, call me F&B.
That is a good point.
And yes, those two came across as opposites.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 9, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
It was also a huge Pens win streak and Caps losing streak so you had them in different locker room atmospheres, but I think they sold BB short. I’m pretty sure not everything he said was a Fuck filled rant. Obviously it was a tough time, but I think HBO sort of latched on to that and played it up.
Please, call me F&B.
I can see how G can come off as a prick a bit. Personally I like it, but then again, that probably supports the whole G is a prick thing.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I don’t know. i could see it a bit but on the whole I think he looks good. I mean the “C’mon Hank, let me score just one today.” thing was hilarious!
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Not everything he said comes off as prickish, I just think he has that kind of air about him, like Del Zotto did on the Rangers for me. They both came off a bit cocky and a bit prickish, but I enjoy that about players.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
True. Still the 24/7 series made me think he’s more bad ass than ever.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, because he’s on the team you love. Cruious if you would think that if he was on the Rangers. I thought G came off really well from a general entertainment perspective, as did both coaches. Prust and Boyle were probably my two favorites from start to finish as far as being consistently enjoyable in each episode. Prust’s conversation with Avery in the last episode was great IMO.
I don’t know why people insist on trying to label crap with fan perspective. All these guys would be exactly the same people regardless of what team they played for; just enjoy it for the entertainment they bring.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I think both coaches come off as pricks, but maybe that’s just me. I still hate Torts as much as ever.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Hence entertaining haha. I thought they were both entertaining, which, in my mind, needs to involve more than just being a nice guy.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I hated Torts besides the obvious humanitarian plea with the kid. Could be previous bias but he seems like a really shitty coach. There were coutless shots of Rags not really paying attention to him or just waiting with their heads hung for him to yell at them.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I thought he came off really well outside of the handshake thing. And given how HBO cuts things together no sequentially I don’t know how that really happened.
I hate both Lavs and Torts for different reasons; that said, I enjoyed watching both of them immensely during the series. Remember I said came off really well from a general entertainment perspective, not as people. Both were pricks during this series.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I don’t see where the prick parts come in. Like for me it’s just I’d want to play for Lavi I’d hate playing for Torts. I don’t think either one of them really came off as pricks per say.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Lavy: Ott incident and the question about it later. Fuming during intermission in Montreal.
Torts: Handshake and when the projector burnt out.
I think they are both very similar coaches, not much difference. I like being called out when I screw up, so I liked playing for coaches like Torts.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Remember, I’m not using prick as a bad thing here, and maybe it’s not the right word. Just firey guys that can blow up. They both have that knowing smirk. etc.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Ott thing I’ll give you. Being pissed is human not going to fault him for that.
Ohhh I forgot about the projector. Almost saved it by thanking the guy but still did that as an asshat.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t work with people like that? I do.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
People that get pissed off and fume? Yeah. Of course but I don’t call them pricks just because they got really mad at one point.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
You are really reading too much in to my choice of words; prick isn’t the right word for me to use here unless you understand what I mean by that or know me well. I just think that most of these guys have kind of an attitude, describe it how ever you like. It’s an attitude that can rub people the wrong way, but I personally enjoy and also find it entertaining to watch.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I don’t think Lavi had an attitude. I mean he got mad a couple times but I don’t know if he has a ’tude.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
..Hoping you get that.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Then I think you are watching it with orange glasses.
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by DLJr on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
dude…the tude thing was fucking with you…apparently you didn’t get it.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Lavi had an attitude.
I was responding to the first sentence that seemed pretty blunt and straight forward.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Time out. Let me explain. You said that I didn’t get what you were saying because I honed in on the word prick which meant something other than what you meant. So, as a joke, I honed in on a different word that is very straight forward and read into it even more.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
We cool?
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Oh there was a time where I was not cool at all. Thank god that’s over……..right? haha
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think he came off as pretty much exactly the same style of coach as Lavy, personally. Good at getting their teams fired up and smart about game decisions. Torts calling guys out by name in front of the whole team is perhaps a little more aggressive than Lavy, but it seems to be working for them.
That’s definitely bias. For one, the dude won a Cup, I’m pretty sure the list of “shitty coaches” that can say that is pretty short. And second, his players love him. That’s not a sign of a shitty coach either. Brad Richards going to the Rangers happened because he loves Torts so much.
Please, call me F&B.
I’ve talked to a couple of other people that feel the same way I do and they’re not all Flyers fans / still angry at ‘04. I’m just saying, for me personally, I was not feeling like he was inspiring at all.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Torts is a shitty coach, but sometimes coaches head up cup winning teams and you wonder how much is the coach and how much is the players. For me personally, the jury’s still out on Lavy. He’s won a cup, too.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Yeah, and I think Lavy is a good coach as well. Not everyone is Scotty Bowman, but both Lavy and Torts clearly know the game and know how to get their players to respond. What else do you want from a coach?
Please, call me F&B.
For them to make the correct decisions on matchups with last line change? /playoffs2011’d
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Ha. Seriously, how hard is it to not play right into the opposition? Dale Hunter has shown absolutely no interest in getting AO away from checking lines. This isn’t 2009 anymore, AO needs all the help he can get!
Please, call me F&B.
Oh, I was talking about Lavy…but I see we all have similar issues with our forwards who can’t really play a lot of defense. (cough, Briere, cough)
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Yeah. I mean shit…Barry Melrose was a couple games away from getting a cup.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
i really think lavy is just lucky to have the team he has under him…b4 pronger we werent constantly giving up 4 and 5 goals against….we shouldnt need a defense of timmonen carle coburn mez and pronger to just keep teams at 3 goals
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I think anyone with that level of talent and an ounce of personality is going to come off as a bit of a prick.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Pretty much, and I enjoy it. People are being overly sensitive and too team biased right now. Especially blue skys.
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Yeah, I couldn’t give a rip how our players are viewed. Everyone’s always hated the Flyers; why should that change now?
Some fans take this shit too far; discussing the “classiness” of players in a game where the object is to separate a man from a puck by any means necessary is a pet peeve.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Yeah no doubt. Hes seriously offended by a trash talking hockey player? Thats quite amusing haha. Take it for what it is – HBO giving us a up front first person view of how hockey really is. If you’re looking for 2 opponents that are classy and respectful, while playing, then go watch golf or tennis or something.
I would also be willing to bet that things were quite toned down for the hbo mics and cameras.
Don’t let McEnroe hear you say that! LOL.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Does Lundqvist come off as a prick to other fanbases, or in this case at least yours?
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t like Lundqvist off ice in the series. He just seemed like a douche. One thing I really hated was his gloves under gloves. I don’t know why but I saw that and called him a little bitch in my head.
Now as a player he’s amazing and I actually like him more than 95% of the rest of the league’s goalies.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, I used to wear gloves under my glove/blocker also. Helps reduce the sting. Definitely wore them when I played outdoors (remember the scene, don’t remember which game he put them on before).
I can see that, I didn’t think of it one way or another, so was curious. The general consensus among rivals is they respect his game but don’t like him, I think. Devils fans I don’t think even respect his game because of the Altar of Brodeur.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Altar of Brodeur
Are there donuts on this altar of which you speak? Because Marty likes donuts.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
So does Timmy Thomas.
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by Chemistry66 on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
There used to be. They keep disappearing.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
No, there are still plenty of donuts, they are just the jelly filled variety now and not the ones with the holes in the middle.
Please, call me F&B.
I dunno, there are plenty of holes w/ Brodeur these days.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
You’re a goalie? Not sure what to make of that.
I also know some goalies that wore thinner, liner gloves under their gear just to minimize rubbing I guess.
Please, call me F&B.
You’re a goalie? Not sure what to make of that.
It means I have a screw loose. Obviously.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but now I have to reinterpret everything you’ve said before and translate it into normie speak.
Please, call me F&B.
You should’ve been doing that anyway.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I was bummed about Lundqvist. Just not much of a personality. This series needed MAF in it again, he stole the show last year along with Talbot IMO. Lundqvist comes off as the kind of person I would not want to spend any time with; just doesn’t bring much to the table. It was disappointing though because I felt like he was holding back. he had the coy grin a lot, and I felt like he was holding back from what he really wanted to say.
Nothing wrong with that, just not very entertaining.
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Apparently all the Flyers guys had to do was ask. He did let Giroux score after his request after all.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Hardly. I can imagine that a certain kind of American would be put off by the stylish European vibe. But nothing prick-ish.
And I vote yea on gloves under gloves. I think it also extends the comfortable wear of that part of the catcher and blocker.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 9, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I used to wear a glove under my catcher’s mitt if I was catching for a fireballer. Every little bit helps.
Bob.
by The Dark on Jan 9, 2012 12:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don’t know. Maybe I just had good comfy equipment but I never needed gloves under the gloves.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
well you are a deisgn maven.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 9, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
also design
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 9, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I wear a batting glove under my baseball mitt. A lot of people do, I’ve found.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I did when I caught or when I played 1st or 3rd. Didn’t in the OF or middle infield.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
A. You hurt yourself sneezing.
B. No one is talking baseball.
C. Who asked you, Deetwheeler?
D. How’s work?
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
1) Yeah, I did hurt myself sneezing.
2) It’s the only time I wear a glove at all similar to a goalie.
3) I wanted to chime in and feel like I still belonged!
4) Good. A little confusing – there’s so much I’ve never done before! – but very good.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 9, 2012 4:28 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Isn't that fan? Wasn't it all the same guy?
I’m too lazy to go back through the comments.
There is something to be said about the ‘Anisimov’ conversation displaying a lack of focus in that moment. Dunno how that translates to a full season or even the rest of the game, but I’m not a psychologist.
Giroux comes off unlikable if you don’t root for the team. Much as Avery and probably Dubinsky (plus whoever else) comes off unlikable if you don’t root for the Rangers.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Dubinsky comes off as a guy that would rather pick his nose than pay attention during team meetings, at least that’s what I took out of the last episode.
In all seriousness though, Dubinsky came off as very blah during the series. Prust and Boyle were the clear winners.
Del Zotto and G came off very similar but in different ways to me, both kind of prickish, which I like in general.
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Yeah, MDZ’s a cocky kid. Knew I was forgetting someone.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly Giroux & Hartnell need to lay off the trash talk. What Flyer fans seem to think is “amusing” on ice bantor really comes across as arrogance to most hockey fans by these players. Example, no need for Hartnell to tell Mike Rupp about “having respect for Jagr” after saluting the crowd – Rupp just scored a goal and is entitled to celebrate it – I guess President Clinton was also “wrong” for doing this at MSG the other night. Example, Giroux trash talking players about their faceoff win %
It was the Flyers who are seen on HBO clearly saying that they didn’t want to shake hands after the game – they were anxious to leave the ice after the game and didn’t want to wait for the Rangers celebration to be over. Yes the WORLD saw the Flyers as being classless after that.
As far as Ansimov celebrating – yeah I agree it was a bit too much but do you understand why he did that? One of his good friends was on the Locomativ Team that died and he did it as a tribute in rememberance of him not out of arrogance or disrespect – even though it clearly came across that way. He was shown apologizing to his teamates afterward and Steven Stamkos even stated that after he did not hold any ill will towards him after the apology.
Tortarella shot his mouth off in the post game about the officiating – yeah the consensus was the calls were horrible but he had no right to do that. He was fined and apologized to the NHL, the Rangers and the Flyers. Done.
I have never heard Lavy (“Typical Montreal”) or Hartnell or Giroux ever apologize for their actions or stupid remarks – whether warranted or not. Thats the difference here between class and classless.
Sometimes the truth hurts but if you really want to understand why people view the Flyers the way they do at times then you need to take off the rose colored glasses. The ‘everybody is wrong attitud’e by many Flyer fans just fuels the fire. Understand that sometimes its not about being right or wrong but understanding whats politcally correct as a pro athlete and whats best for the game overall in the end. Every team every player has passionate times when they may say or do things that are questionable or not right. Its how you respond immediately AFTER that event that many times defines an athlete or a team. Thats where your team falls short at times. It will never change unless your teams attitude changes. That starts with the coach.
I don’t hate your team Pal – In fact here is the best part – my oldest boy (16) has played in past at Vorhees and Pensauken at Skate Zone with Team Comcast, East Coast Selects, Flyers Youth as a D man (6’5 230lb – yes that is accurate). I know several of the players and coaches and they have worked with him and coached him in the past. They are great people off ice, great organization – but yes they project an attitude on ice that is at times arrogant
Wow you really are sensitive…
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cant help but think blue skys is this guy now
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Cool story bro. What’s your fucking point anyways?
I guess Brandon Dubinsky is classless then for calling out Jody Shelley?
I believe Dubinsky responded to Shelley calling him a “weasel” on 24/7 first – I guess that small fact is not important – see folks this is EXACTLY the point I am making here. Lose the profanity – as well and learn to be a bit more open minded
While I sort of understand what you’re saying (but disagree), trash talk is a part of hockey. It’s part of the fabric of the game, on ice and off. Just because every single thing your team said didn’t end up in the footage that was used on the show doesn’t mean they don’t do it just as much as any other team. The fact that you think we are in the wrong is your perception of the situation, with most of us will likely disagree with, but the notion that trash talk needs to be toned down isn’t realistic. Kids learn to trash talk at the youngest level of hockey, it’s second nature by the time people get to the NHL.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
This. I was taping a mites outdoor game this weekend for work and there was trash talk going on in that one too.
G’s talk probably got used in the show because it was awesome and he’s really good at it. I also don’t really remember him being offensive (not in the shocking sense but in the initiating sense) with his talk. Could be wrong though.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Not arguing that it isn’t part of the game – the truly great players today don’t trash talk that much on or off the ice. As far as the kids – been there done that several times over – up to the coaches to minimize it and teach sportsmanship, Refs to enforce it. Most youth programs (including Flyers Youth, Little Flyers, Jr. Flyers, Team Comcast, etc.) have a Zero Tolerance Program. My experience – it starts with the parents
the truly great players today don’t trash talk that much on or off the ice
Right, a truly great player would never do something like guaranteeing a Game 7 win in the playoffs.
It was game 6. (assuming you mean Messier vs Devils)
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, why push one’s luck?
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
You’re saying Steve Ott, the #5 faceoff man in the league, doesn’t trash talk? I can’t believe that!
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t Grioux say he didn’t mean to offend him or rip on him when he said that?
"Who's more crazy, me? Or defensemen? Who's more weird?"----- Ilya Bryzgalov
"Grow some balls and just do it" ---- Claude Giroux
Semper Fi...
Yeah. I was just joking by saying that Steve Ott was a truly great player.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
My experience – it starts with the parents
Exactly. I blame Tortorella’s mother for all this.
by mtitanic on Jan 9, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
RANGERBOB!!!!! RUN!!!!!!
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Next thing you know dude’s gonna say Hartnell was wrong for calling Malkin the ugliest guy in the league. I mean, that’s just fact. How can you ague with facts?
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Lose the profanity – as well and learn to be a bit more open minded
Fuck you. Learn not to to troll other team’s sites with stupid commentary.
You’re not reasoning with anybody, though. You’re implying that the people employed by the Rangers have valid reasons behind their words and actions, but those employed by the Flyers do not. You can’t prove that the Flyers’ players and coaches don’t have an explanation behind the things they do and say, and have never apologized for anything they’ve ever said in the past, so you’re merely pushing your interpretation of the situation onto others. You accuse us of having orange colored glasses, but yours are just as blue; this is not a black and white argument.
No one outside the locker room can ever know what was left on the cutting room floor, or what the media or HBO editors have spun in order to make the narrative flow. I’m not really accusing HBO of intentionally painting either team in a specific light, but we do not have every second of footage they shot, and we never will, so we can’t pretend we know every detail behind every moment. They had to edit everying into 4 hour time slot and make it entertaining, so plenty of stuff ended up on the cutting room floor, likely illustration good and bad things about both teams.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
DragonGirl – I think you know this goes well beyond 24/7 – What is your honest interpretation as to how the hockey world views the Flyers?
The majority of people only notice the things that confirm their bias against us or fit the narrative they’ve always been lead to believe. You’re deluding yourself if you think that people don’t do the same exact thing against your team and your fanbase.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
All teams have their haters – The “Broad Street Bully” reputation has earned you more over the years – I don’t think anyone could argue that. HBO is entertainment designed to give people what they want (or think they want to see) Much in the same manner the good guy is expected to win at the end of a movie. HBO felt showing that side of the Flyers most accurately captured their essence (right or wrong) The question Flyers and their fans really want an answer to is why. Yes the Rangers are not saints either but their overall reputation around the league right now is better – especially now that they finally got rid of Sean Avery.
You’re still pushing your opinions and your interpretation of the situation. You keep stating your beliefs that the Rangers are the good guys in this situation, but it’s certainly not my fault that you decided to wander into our territory and exemplify any stereotypes that Rangers fans have a superiority complex.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
There’s also a lack of awareness at the extent to which the Rangers bias affects everything that he/she says. The false “reasonableness” quickly gets annoying and condescending.
And to not understand the extent of trash talking in the game, now and forever? Mystifying.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
And if you polled sports fans across America, Philly and New York would almost undoubtedly be 2 of the top 3 most hated cities in terms of sports fans (only Boston could rival them). So basing an entire argument on “don’t you know everyone hates Philly” when you are representing NY seems… short sighted.
Please, call me F&B.
Was just looking for an old blog a guy wrote about how the Flyers (and fans) are the “evil character” is hockey and how we should embrace it, but the guy started his blod over and it’s not there anymore. Emailed him and will try and re-post if I can. Was a good read.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
this is my feeling. i like being the guy in black. also means you have a renegade fanbase everywhere, kind of like the Raiders do/did in the NFL.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 9, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Awww, that link doesn’t work anymore? That was such an awesome blog post…
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Just wow.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
As a Flyers fan I could give a rats ass what you or anyone else thinks of the Flyers out side of the fan base. Also most of the stuff out there is a bunch of lazy narrative spouted by writers and people such as your self backed up with little fact. Shows a lot of class on your part to show up on a Flyers blog and lecture us about class and sportsmanship.
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"Grow some balls and just do it" ---- Claude Giroux
Semper Fi...
If someone is still pushing the Broad Street Bullies narrative at this point their just a hack anyway. The Flyers are 5th in the league in fighting majors and guess who is number one. I’ll give you 247 guesses.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
still not listening
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Guy’s already stopped posting, I don’t think he’ll see these.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
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Well on the plus side, now the page takes 8 minutes to load.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
It’s time to upgrade your 256k modem, Don.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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by hintzy64 on Jan 9, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My parents still have Verizon DSL….I feel his pain.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Slow internet is why I switched to Chrome. Much faster when I’m on campus.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
My stepdad was complaining about the computer I built for him and my mom a few years ago being too slow. (They are COMPLETELY computer illiterate.) He’d keep clicking the firefox icon and said nothing ever opened. (Because now it’s trying to open 562,374 instances instead of one.) Was convinced he must have a virus and wanted me to fix it. The computer was clean. So I gave them Chrome. No complaints since.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Yeah, we have some manner of crappy DSL at work. It was brutal trying to watch lecture videos online for grad school. It’d stop to buffer after every three words. I eventually gave up and just stayed up later to watch them at home.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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I remember freshman year trying to watch TV show episodes online. I’d bring up the episode page, and then go to dinner. Sometimes it still wouldn’t be buffered and loaded by the time I’d get back.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
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Dude, I couldn’t give a shit less
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 9, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
good luck to you too
see how easy that was?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 9, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Good luck for everybody, yay!
Is it too early to christen this guy, “RANGERROB”? So far, I’m tallying:
1. Long rambling trolling that doesn’t make sense.
2. Non-sequitor about personal life.
3. Inability to defend his arguments.
Really, all we’re missing is the inappropriate capitalization of words.
Honestly Giroux & Hartnell need to lay off the trash talk.
Are you really suggesting that most teams don’t trash talk? Perhaps you missed the Barch suspension? Or Bourne’s article saying that trash talking affects hockey more than any other sport? Or, you know, pretty much every hockey game ever? (Ask your 16-year-old son if he ever trash talks, or if he ever hears anyone else doing it.)
What Flyer fans seem to think is "amusing" on ice bantor really comes across as arrogance to most hockey fans by these players.
I don’t think you get to describe your opinion as being that of the majority. I googled “Giroux trash talk 24/7” and clicked on every link that wasn’t a Philly blog. Here’s what I came up with:
- NHL.com says Giroux “is not to be missed talking up some trash” and describes his exchange with Lundqvist as funny and authentic.
- avclub.com says “I’ll continue to watch any subsequent series in order to get my yearly dose of profanity-laden hockey trash talk” (which goes more to the point above about whether it is widespread).
- Bourne says “The hilarity of the exchange between Steve Ott and Claude Giroux was – for me anyway – the highlight of the night.”
I could go on, but I’d hope by now you get the point.
Example, no need for Hartnell to tell Mike Rupp about "having respect for Jagr" after saluting the crowd – Rupp just scored a goal and is entitled to celebrate it […] As far as Ansimov celebrating – yeah I agree it was a bit too much but do you understand why he did that?
What makes Rupp’s deliberately mocking celebration OK, but Anisimov’s unintentionally insensitive one too much? Did Rupp have some really good reason for his, too?
Example, Giroux trash talking players about their faceoff win %
It is so clear that you’re just seeing what you want to see. Giroux said “are you taking this draw?” Rupp replied “I’m fifth in the league in faceoffs, go look it up on NHL.com. So I’m probably going to win this one right here.”
Yeah, I could go on, but it’s not really worth the time — there is approximately 0.0000000738% chance I’m going to change your views. But I invite you to reconsider whether you’re forming your opinions based on what you see or seeing stuff based on your opinions.
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by Eric T. on Jan 9, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 13 recs
Nice
I don’t need to be lectured from a fanbase that thought it was a good idea to bring urns to games and chant “Buy a Porsche!” at Ron Hextall throughout the 86-87 season.
I keep hearing about throwing snowballs at Santa but not too much about this.
Are you serious?! That’s way fucking worse than a lot of shit Flyers fans are accused of.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I remember the signs.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Fucking terrible.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I never heard of this before. Are you serious??? Rangers fans mock the dead? All new low.
I think I am going to begin making a list of all douchebag moves other fanbases do and keep in my pocket, so whenever a fan of a team gets on a fan of a Philly team, I’ll whip it out and throw it back in their faces.
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Oh, wow, I’m really glad I’m too young to remember that.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Please, hammer, don’t hurt ’em.
Or do. That’s cool too.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I love you, man.
To Blue Skys, if you have not been banned yet, I invite you to read about why Jaromir Jagr salutes. You will find it a much more moving and personal story than Anisimov wanting to pay homage to his friend.
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Nah, he won’t be banned for this. Just laughed at openly. ;-)
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Wait? The person Anisimov paid tribute to with his shotgun was killed in the Locomotiv plane crash?
I did not remember/had not realized that. Oops.
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That’s because it it’s true. http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/Rangers-Artem-Anisimov-apologizes-to-Tampa-Bay-Lightning-players-for-goal-celebration-15067753
Iilya Gorokhov is still living.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Ha, shooting even more holes in Blue Skys rant above…
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I think it’s the most despicable hole, personally. No one, anywhere, reported this a tribute to Lokomotiv. It’s a blatant lie.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Artie played for Lokomotiv, and said he did it because of a former teammate. Yes, it’s a terrible assumption, but if you didn’t know who he was talking about, it’s hard not to assume that said player was part of the tragedy.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
You mean to say it’s not true? If Ilya Gorokhov is still living then he could not have been in the plane crash.
I thought it was strange when tinmansstory said that before because I am pretty sure I would have remembered if he did it in honor of someone killed in the plane crash, but I really did not want to appear insensitive, so I said “oops” anyway.
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And Blue Skys said it first, not tinmansstory.
I’m batting 1.000 today.
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So I know the troll is long-gone, but I was reading Japers this morning and found more evidence that this guy does not speak for all hockey fans when he says Giroux is disliked:
Was that Giroux? I can’t hate Giroux. The other Flyers make it easy to dislike them, but he does not. — red army line
He seems like a good dude, generally. — Smallz287
I love Giroux. 24/7 just cemented it. — Rob Parker
Trollolol.
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Yup. Ott was the one bragging about his faceoff percentage ranking. And he was making it up too, a tactic BlueSky should recognize. :-p
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didnt read lol
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Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Couple things
1) Giroux never trash talked about faceoff %. That was Ott.
2) Anisimov never said he did the celebration as a tribute to a Lokomotiv team member. He said he knew a guy from Lokomotiv who did that and he said if he made it to the NHL, he’d do it too (looked cool, I guess). You’re making it out like he was trying to honor a fallen friend when he was just being an asshole.
3) To say Lavi should apologize for something he yelled at a ref in the middle of a game is beyond ridiculous. You think Torts never yelled at a ref?
Torts’ comments about the WC officiating were in a post-game press conference to the media, not something that happened to get picked up on a microphone for the taping of a behind-the-scenes special. Completely different, and he was fined accordingly. Torts only apologized to try and get out of a fine.
None of this is to suggest one organization is better than the other. I may dislike the Blueshits as a team, but I wouldn’t call them classless because of a perceived bias on my part.
Sometimes the truth hurts, but if you really want to understand why people view rival teams the way they do at times, then you need to take a lesson in objectivity.
As far as Ansimov celebrating – yeah I agree it was a bit too much but do you understand why he did that? One of his good friends was on the Locomativ Team that died and he did it as a tribute in rememberance of him not out of arrogance or disrespect
And he hasn’t had an opportunity to do that in the 4 months since the plane crash because well… he’s not that good.
Please, call me F&B.
Also, because it had nothing to do with Lokomotiv, except that they involve Russian hockey players.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Well, one Russian is just like any other Russian, right? Heartless, selfish, and enigmatic.
Please, call me F&B.
We have The Singularity, no need to explain enigmas to us.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
who is the singularity?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
ahh i see your talking about his save %
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Hey now. Anisimov’s a good player.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
By politically correct you mean, picking the turd up by the clean end.
I fixed the cable.
by The Karl Hungus on Jan 9, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
In case people don’t see the title change marking the update; I added collection info to the Ranger assistance FanPost after getting off the phone w/ Paypal’s customer support this morning. Sorry it took so long, but it’s there now.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 8:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ilya Bryzgalov, Flyers: minus-8.7 GVT, $5.67 million for nine years, minus-15.5 GVS
Has any player ever been rated worse than this using these criteria?
Not sure. For reference, a broken down Drury last year was only -8.153 GVS at mid season.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 9, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
As I’ve posted before, you have to reference other sports.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Blue Jackets fired their coach.
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Can’t believe it took this long, really. The hockey world’s been in disbelief for what, two months?
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by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Also, Jeff Carter...
is injured again. Yes, the King-Of-Pointless-Goals-in-Lopsided-Games (aka Captain High-and-Wide) is out of action. Funny how this article refers to “Coach Scott Arniel.”
LeClair > Any Non-Flyer > Lindros > Any Non-Flyer
- The Department of Redundancy Department
King-Of-Pointless-Goals-in-Lopsided-Games
[facepalm] That’s special.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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by hintzy64 on Jan 9, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That game yesterday afternoon.......
Okay I refrained from doing anything last night after the game, no comments, i calmed down and I have thought about it and reflected a little. So I wanted to just make a couple minor comments..
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED!? JESUS CHRIST YOU HAVE A 2 GOAL FRIGGIN LEAD AND YOU LOSE 6-4. GOD DAMMIT!
That is all!
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Seriously. 4 goals should be enough to win a game.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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WOO-Sa.....Woo-Sa
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Hah, I really wanna see what your response would’ve been if you composed it directly after the game.
Luckily for me I had to go somewhere so I stopped watching the game while the Flyers were still up 4-2. So seeing the blown lead on a score update was less a “GOD DAMNIT HOLYSHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK!” moment and more of a “waaaa waaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa” moment.
In other news...
I have finally gotten my tix for the Nashville game on Saturday night. I hope they give a real good effort even though the Predators are playing damn good hockey since Weber came back. Anybody else headed to Nashville?
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I’ll be in section 317.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Considering I live a block away from Bridgestone, I’ll be there. Where in the arena depends on whether I get the limited release tickets in the morning.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Is that the general admission tickets I saw online?
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By the way, first game this season I’m not rooting for a shutout.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
In San Jose, a goal in the last two minutes of the second means free tacos. The last game I went to, they had a 5-on-3 for about a minute of that stretch and didn’t score. Augh.
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Oh yea I can go along with 1 goal for ice cream.
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Oh no, my friend, a Goo-Goo Cluster is not ice cream. It is a local delicacy.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
This amused me:
another, somewhat questionable theory is that the candy was sold at the Grand Ole Opry (GOO), except that the Opry was established in 1925, 13 years after the candy’s debut.
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Also:
During the Great Depression, Goo Goo Clusters were advertised as “a nourishing lunch for a nickel.”
People were so poor that milk chocolate, caramel, and marshmallow were considered nourishing?
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Guy who threw banana at Simmonds got his punishment today……$200 fine. Defense claimed he didn’t know it was hateful.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
They did not ban him from attending any games? Just the $200 fine?
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"Grow some balls and just do it" ---- Claude Giroux
Semper Fi...
All I saw was a tweet by Bright but that’s all he said. Too lazy to google for an actual article.
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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
From the article I found on ESPN…
“LONDON, Ontario — A fan who threw a banana at a black player during an NHL exhibition game has been fined $200.
Christopher Moorhouse lobbed a banana at Philadelphia Flyers forward Wayne Simmonds as he was approaching Detroit Red Wings goalie Jordan Pearce during a shootout in the Sept. 22 game in London, Ontario.
The 26-year-old Moorhouse pleaded guilty Monday but did not appear in court. Moorhouse was charged with a provincial trespassing and given 90 days to pay the fine. Police said there wasn’t enough evidence to charge Moorhouse with a hate crime.
Moorhouse’s lawyer, Faisal Joseph, has said his client didn’t know hurling bananas at black athletes could be seen as hateful."
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Dustin Penner does his best Rick DiPietro impression, injures himself while eating pancakes.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
You beat me to it. It’s still no DiPi, though. He wouldn’t have made it anywhere close to those pancakes before getting hurt.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
he would have tripped in the kitchen into the hot pan and burned his retinas
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
He wouldn’t have even made it out of bed without falling and breaking something.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
like seriously, has ne 1 read the no good dirty rotten really bad bad bad day when they were younger. it must have been about dipeitro when he was younger, and it still follows him
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
I injured myself turning off the shower Saturday. Yeah, I thought of all those stupid injuries.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 9, 2012 12:40 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I forgot my allergy meds one day last fall and injured myself blowing my nose. I’m definitely going downhill since turning 30…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Did you hurt your wrists turning the spigot off?
I am a union electrician, and I hurt myself pretty badly screwing in a lightbulb after having spent a good amount of time gripping a pair of channel locks tightly. The tendons in my wrist were all stiff, and then i made the twisting motion with my wrist and, voila!, worker’s compensation!
LeClair > Any Non-Flyer > Lindros > Any Non-Flyer
- The Department of Redundancy Department
by Henry al-Sirat on Jan 9, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
No, I pulled my back/ribs. I’ve never had better posture in my life thanks to the pain I’m in.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 9, 2012 3:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Argh, screw you work. Can I go home and play Portal instead?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
truly a fascinating game
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
It really is. I played for hours this weekend. I’m playing Portal 2 now, just started the “The Fall” chapter. My wife probably wasn’t pleased, but all she did was rib me a little for how long it’s taking me to read A Tale of Two Cities. I got all my chores done anyway.
Maybe I’ll play a little during my lunch break, I still haven’t finished all the challenge maps in Portal 1…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Have you seen this?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Man I did the upside down satanic christmas tree back in ‘93 before it was cool. /slaps self for using much disliked “before it was cool” meme’d
Though I must say this is a nice a nice variation on the theme. Transporter accident or the infamous intra dimesion, phase shift sci-fi trope but with a twist – it’s really out of phase and falling thru normal space time i.e, not standing on solid ground.
I want to go home and watch the West Wing and or play the Metal Gear HD collection but I cannot do either of those things since my PS3 got the Yellow Light of Death.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Join the broken technology club woohoo. I hope the battery my dad ordered for me came in or is almost here. It’s frustrating not even being able to move my laptop out of my room without shutting it down.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
I’d also accept some bouldering at the climbing gym. That would also be far better than working.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Wish I could go rock climbing again. I wish my school had a rock wall like NC State’s gym does.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
G's on Twitter
Per Hartnell:
I would like to welcome @28CGiroux to the twitter world. Enjoy everybody. The best dude in the league #girouxMVP
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Hopefully he doesn’t get scared away again.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Haha it’s so adorable.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
May have deleted it, my twitter app shows no updates
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
Same here.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
It is weird that I get worried that the more access I get to a player, the more likely I will be bored by/dislike them? Giroux has done wonderfully so far, but I don’t want to have to make the “probably a good dude but kinda douchy because that’s how it is” apologies Richie required.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
So PoL post this early this morning and then NBC sports post this later, which is their coverage of this NHL article. So he’s ahead of the curve.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
Haha awaiting that job offer from NHL.com now
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
From the desk of Brendan Shanahan
Brad “Big Nose” Marchand gets 5 game suspension. Video here.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Matt Read for Calder!
Jeff Skinner, at 6 years old, is the youngest player in the NHL.
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
That was a dirty, cheese dick move. That guy deserves the 5 and should get his dirty ass kicked when he hits the ice by anyone who has integrity. Going low on a n unsuspecting guy is against the code of respecting your opponent.
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i cant say i wouldnt have done the same thing….i did it in soccer when this kid who was about a foot taller and 80 pnds heavier tried to check me(carcillo style) into the bleachers to get the ball
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Listen not killing you but going for the knees is chcikenshit. It’s a sucker play.
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i was about 4’9 110 pnds and the guy trying to wreck me in soccer was about 6 foot 200 or so…so screw that..he also tried to do the same thing to a girl
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
of course he was also the resident roided out football player at the highschool kind of put things in perspective
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
I was about to say, how did you end up in the same game as him…
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Difference is he’s a hockey player, and this was during a game. The guy who’s coming into the corner isn’t known as some cheap shot artist, and if Marchand was so scared, he had plenty of time to just move away from the hit.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
Plus, Marchand and Salo had just been swinging at each other. And, oh yeah, Marchand should have known, and most likely did, exactly who and what was coming from his right side seeing as they both had to skate 20 feet to get to the puck.
He’s one of my least favorite players in the league. The Bruins have taken “our” crown for dirtiest team in the league, right? I would respect it if they weren’t so fucking duplicitous, describing this and Lucic’s run on Miller as “self-defense.”
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
yeah i just looked at the video..had he not just done the right thing 10 seconds earlier, maybe it cant be seen as completely intentional..but since he lost the boaard battle the first time he didnt want to lose the battle again
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
This is going to be so entertaining.
dooda1414 @Hartsy19 @28CGiroux awwwww Hartsy I wish I could grow my hair and fall everywhere like you to get attention …#Gonlyreasonwhy19stillaflyer
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
Hartnell tweets earlier:
Why do our fans booooooo @28CGiroux when he is announced for starting lineup?? #roooooo #dangleitis #nolove
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
That was response to this:
Thanks for the last tweet @dooda1414 Don’t be mad that I made u fall to the ice in a fight #hockeynewscover and I can actually grow hair
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
who is dooda1414?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Lappy
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
why the hell is the point of the #?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Hashtag represents trending stuff on twitter. Some ppl just randomly make them up to start a new trend. #Hartnelldown is a famous one now.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Essentially if you’re good at making funny hashtags, you are good at life. Or so I have gathered.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well, then I am no good at life since I avoid teh Twitter.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
kids and their new fangled social media devices
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
LOL. I just like to use “teh” in front of it to be more like Don. /shakes cane
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
i just dont get it...facebook is as far as i go..i cant stand all the hash tag crap
also was lappy serious that whole g is the only reason hartnell is still a flyer is probably somewhat true and therefore kind of a low blow
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Chirping, and he tweeted later:
dooda1414 For you wondering , I love hartsy and I think he should be at the all-star game …
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
ahh ok….not a twitter guy so i dont hear their back and fourth
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
OT
with the ducks talking about trading core guys and speculation fowler could be moved what do you think they ask in return and should the flyers look to try?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Where did you hear Fowler speculation?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
thehockeynews.com
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/44044-Rumor-Roundup-Are-the-Flames-buyers.html
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
I wonder what the asking price for Fowler would be. It’s very tempting. I still don’t see how it’s a good idea to trade a promising 20-year-old defenseman who they were lucky to get in the draft (all the teams above them wanted a forward) and who has won a Memorial Cup and World Juniors…but hey I’ll take him.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
would you trade this years first and a promising rookie or prospect( at the draft of course)
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
with how our defense is i would stop drafting fowards this year and stock up….getting fowler who apparently is supposed to grow to be a top 2 dman would help when timmo retires and the absence of pronger
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
@HarryZ87 Harry Zolnierczyk
That’s weird @28CGiroux is about to pass me in followers in about 20 mins #mustbegood #twitterproblems
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jan 9, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions
Oh, so this is the secret behind the Red Wings. Intelligence.
Ian White, Detroit Red Wings: 7.6 GVT, $2.875 million for two years, 4.3 GVS
The epitome of a journeyman, White managed to play 83 regular-season games in 2009-10 and has worn five teams’ sweaters during the past two years. The 27-year-old Manitoba native is perennially underrated, though—not uncommon for sub-6-foot defensemen.
I was hoping for Scientology and dumb fucking luck.
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