Game 55, Discussion Thread: New York Rangers at Philadelphia Flyers
New York Rangers at Philadelphia Flyers, Feb 11, 2012 1:00 PM EST
New York Rangers (34-13-5, 73 pts) at Philadelphia Flyers at (31-16-7, 69 pts)
1 p.m. today at Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia
Catch the action on CSN Philly, MSG and 94 WIP
[Game Preview] - [New York Perspective]
Today's goaltenders:
Flyers Line Combinations
Hartnell - Giroux - Jagr
Read - Briere - Voracek
Talbot - Schenn - Simmonds
Rinaldo - Couturier - Sestito
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - Bourdon
Gustafsson - Meszaros
New York Line Combinations
Anisimov - Stepan - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Richards - PrustFedotenko - Boyle - Callahan
Rupp - Mitchell - Hagelin
McDonagh - Girardi
Del Zotto - Stralman
Staal - Bickel/Eminger
Questions to Answer
There are no questions at this point. Please, just win. Go Flyers.
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how cool is it that the Reds Wings will have a chance to tie the Flyers home winning streak against the Flyers?
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
"There’s more to life than being really, really, really good at hockey."
-DannyMcG
Suck it, Phaneuf
You mean the homestreak with the humongus big asterix next to it because of SO wins?
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
At least the win those.
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
"There’s more to life than being really, really, really good at hockey."
-DannyMcG
Suck it, Phaneuf
LET'S GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP
"I will not risk answering your question" Why we love Bob
And yes, I am a female redhead.
I hoping for an old time Rangers/Flyers match up. A fight filled 4-1 Flyers win. I know Prust is gonna want Sestito right off the bat and rupp better not bitch out to Shelley. Wether he thinks he is worthy of fighting or not sooner or later you look like a bitch if you don’t answer and Rupp knows it.
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
Okay. Apparently no Shelley. I would give briere some more rest play scooter on his line and dress Shelley. And let the mayhem ensue. Old time hockey, Eddie shore!!!
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by MJDII on Feb 11, 2012 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
4-3 Rangers in Regulation
Not because I’m a pessimist, but because the system and personnel matchup are atrocious for the Flyers
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions
Agenda, agenda, agenda!!!!
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by MJDII on Feb 11, 2012 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ha, I wish
Has nothing to do with past games, could it?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I mean, you’re probably the most pessimistic fan I see on this board who isn’t banned for trolling, so yea.
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i think it’s because during the summer when everyone was doom and gloom, i was one of the few people who were hopeful
try and keep up with tendencies, please
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
are you regularly a contrarian?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 11, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
that’s a good question. Do I just take my opinion and mold it to the opposite of the majority’s opinion? I don’t know
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
fun fact: only one of those teams weren’t an actual team in the Mighty Ducks movie. Which one wasn’t a team?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
panthers
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
predators I believe
The Panthers came down with the Measels, remember?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
GO US!
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
"There’s more to life than being really, really, really good at hockey."
-DannyMcG
Suck it, Phaneuf
Been up since seven waiting for this game. And watching it snow, first snow of the years in Western North Carolina mountains.
by musicheretic on Feb 11, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Never fear, for I am here
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
hows your day going so far?
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Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Not too bad…it’s getting cold!
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
To your joy as well?
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Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I used to hate winter. Now that I have discovered hockey, winter is more bearable. So now I’m somewhat indifferent.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’m jealous. I assume it’s not below freezing there :)
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll just say it’s ‘not below freezing.’
by fiveredapples on Feb 11, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
It’s beautiful there, isn’t it?
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
It’s 4 degrees here with a minus 15 degree windchill.
Just so you know how good you have it.
by I'dRatherBeInPhilly on Feb 11, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Minus? Windchill? I know not these words.
by fiveredapples on Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
It will be down in the single digits here tonight. Thanks, Canada!
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
That’s better than the midwest right now. My hair froze as soon as I left the pool this am..
They took me out of Philly and sent me to Indy.
Max Talbot- My favorite French-Canadian
Where?
I’m in Minneapolis.
But my mon is in North Dakota and the windchill was 40 below yesterday.
by I'dRatherBeInPhilly on Feb 11, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I’m in Indianapolis.. But this is the first time this year it’s been cold enough that my hair freezes as soon as I walk outside. I should learn to wear a hat, but I hate wearing them
They took me out of Philly and sent me to Indy.
Max Talbot- My favorite French-Canadian
The only good thing about winter is hockey.
by I'dRatherBeInPhilly on Feb 11, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
happy birthday to max talbot!
now go score some goals.
by ForTheLoveOfBob on Feb 11, 2012 1:02 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
oh, and happy birthday to mike richards too!
by ForTheLoveOfBob on Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
that’s odd
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
What’s the rationale behind that?
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Fedetenko is out and he decided not to call anyone up I guess.
by musicheretic on Feb 11, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
“we’re gonna need a bigger boat”
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
“hold onto your butts”
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully someone woke the Flyers up today.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
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And hopefully someone pissed in there cheerios so they will come out surly
by musicheretic on Feb 11, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the Rangers wore theirs at the last game so the Flyers were going to wear theirs today.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Ah, I (thankfully) missed that game due to attempting to sleep after working an overnight shift.
Prepare your sleep apparatus.
On the twitterverse
I’m kinda bummed that I won’t get to see Jimmy Howard tomorrow. He’s been killing it for my fantasy team and I like watching good goalies work.
I heart our rookies.
same here. i just keep him in the one starting spot and alternating the other two
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
OH MY BOB.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
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BOB
"I will not risk answering your question" Why we love Bob
And yes, I am a female redhead.
Bourdon…
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:12 PM EST reply actions
but good on Bobs though
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
after the trade deadline ,can people still be claimed on waivers?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
No.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
so we can send MAB down and bring up bartulis?!?!?!?!
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
I hope we so.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Meant I hope we can do so. Lol
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
This requires DG’s input, but I do think this is correct.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
oh plz plz plz be correct
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Not correct, honestly. Because Bartulis has an extra year left on his contract, somebody might still claim him on re-entry and we can’t risk it.
mtitanic’s answer was much closer; the rules are different and there’s less incentive to claim someone; but it doesn’t mean they can’t be claimed.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I think waiver/ reentry waiver moves can still happen, but there are some different consequences. Like, the team making a claim can’t use him for the rest of the season.
This. That’s what I meant by “no” :-))
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Stick infraction for Briere? Impossible.
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
it was holding, for those betting
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Briere, a non stick infraction penalty
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:14 PM EST reply actions
Apparently there are a lot of CBJ scouts in the stands today
Carter to the Rangers is the rumor…
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That would be great for him and my fantasy team…
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
cost most likely, carter will come much cheaper
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
it would cripple them in the long term with the picks and players they would lose
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
terrible news for us, carter would love nyc
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Yeah. Great for my fantasy team, bad for my real team…
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
If he goes there I give him 2 games till he is hurt……. again.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I really don’t remember him being injured for us all that often, except when he had two broken feet.
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I was talking about when he went to columbus and was hurt quite often.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
That has nightmare potential. With him in Columbus, Flyers don’t have to play him that much. We’d be seeing him almost monthly if he was a Ranger. Carter is not the type of player I would want to face monthly, especially with a chip on his shoulder
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Carter to the Rangers would be a nightmare for the Flyers.
Nash to the Rangers sounds more like the Rangers trades.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
your asking breire to hit?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Yeah, just wondering that. Does Briere hit?
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Alright, alright, it was Briere — I chose the wrong play to make my case. The team as a whole is not hitting though.
by fiveredapples on Feb 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
They’re nicer than the Rangers WC jerseys, IMO.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Rangers WC jerseys, to me, just look like someone is really bad at separating the wash and some brown socks got into the whites. Or they don’t understand bleach
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yes! The white with the vintage white was a little weird.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
has anyone tried that new bud light platinum?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions
Nervous energy.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
not really much to get hyped about in the opening stanza…
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sestito will put an end to that.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Easiest. Trivia. Question. Ever.
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who is Herbie Hancock?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Because he’s Tom Sestito?
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
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Silly zebras.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
More useless Sestito brother: Tom or Tim?
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Its a close one, but I’d say Tom, Tim is staying in the minors where he belongs
"Its the letter D"
by Rory B. Bellows on Feb 11, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I heard the linesman saying he was getting an extra and Sestito asked why.
by fiveredapples on Feb 11, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
when is lavy finally going to say something about the bullsgut reffing
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
bullshit*
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
And there it goes.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
….bubkis
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions
their pp was ice cold in their previous games…
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions
Sestito got a concurrent penalty.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Yeah, but Danny B just went to the locker room…
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that. I have no idea what’s going on.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
JJ said he got a misconduct too?
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
So 11:35, game’s already over. Thanks Refs!
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Next article...
“Flyers need to practice day games.”
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 11, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
these refs dont know shit about policing games…
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions
i want the flyers to walk out i really really do, id be fine with it
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
So by my eyes, Tom Sestito got an extra 2 for being mugged by 3 Rangers. Am I interpreting this correctly?
That was a Sestito/Rinaldo call.
It is crazy to dress them both. The league has them on a short leash, I think this is a “directive.”
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Makes him feel young again
If hockey gets me aroused, then I don't want to be right.
by Henry al-Sirat on Feb 11, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Guess we all know who Bettman’s new Golden boys are now that Crosby and the Pens are irrelevant.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So Danny gets a misconduct for apparently saying something to the refs on the way to the bench.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Hey, is Danny wearing an A? If so, that’s garbage.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
the “A” does not give you amnesty to cuss the ref out.
by oldtrafford77 on Feb 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, traditionally, it did.
What you could not do is have an extended negative cuss out.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Looking at the timeline, Briere got it while sitting in the box.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
i’m gonna turn on golf in a minute an be completely done watching the flyers on the weekends if this shit doesnt stop
An more be completely done watching the flyers on the weekends if this shit doesnt stop
If hockey gets me aroused, then I don't want to be right.
by Henry al-Sirat on Feb 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
how long will homer lavvy and snider just stand there and watch consistantly horeshit reffing..
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
What can they do?
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 11, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
If they are willing to pay fines, bad mouth the shit out of them to media everyday.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Feb 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
blow their shit up during interveiws, and if it keeps happening refuse to play
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
There was an article on how the Comcast/NBC merger would be beneficial for the Flyers on here a year ago. So far it just seems like the parent coach being harsher on his own kids to not show favouritism.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Not the point
The league will bend over backwards to show no favoritism to the Flyers on the ice.
But the Flyers won’t ever be shown on some NHL Network broadcasts etc. This is about cash.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I feel you with the cash. I have met so many people that hate Philadelphia and never even been. It seems that Philly teams losing in big ways IS a money maker. Look at the Eagles.
The Phillies are the only team to break out and since 3 straight big time heart breaks.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Feb 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
So you think the Flyers lose because they’re fun to hate?
I think they’d be more fun to hate if they could back up the reasons to hate them. In wrestling, the villain has to get some big wins before he’s big enough to lose.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
I don’t think the just lose but that is why it is hard. They are villains they won in 74-75.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Feb 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not really heart breakers on the Phillies, for me at least. We lost to better teams.
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they were not the better team, the cards just played better at the right time. MLB playoffs is the biggest crap shoot of all the sports.
They lost to the World Series Champs three straight years. It happens. They were better than us those series. Deal with it.
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The phillies were the better team
for the past 2 years. We lsot to a better one in 09. Dont be an idiot plz.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
According to what rules of the sport? Because if you want to be the best team, all you have to do is win. The Cards won 3 games before we did, they were better than us. Then they won four before the other teams could, they were better. No prizes for winning regular season games guys, just an entrance into the elimination rounds.
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According to baseball.
It’s not football. It’s not hockey or the NBA it’s baseball and you absolutely CN lose to a team that is not as good as yours if they are hot. How’d that next year work out for the Sf Giants eh? Did they make the playoffs, even? Stick to what you know because this is clearly not one of them.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
The Giants weren’t the best team in 2011, they were in 2010. I hate when people bitch about being the better team after they lose. If you want to say you’re the better team it’s pretty easy to prove it. All you need do is win.
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again,
this is baseball you’re trying to compartmentalize. It’s a game of averages and in a 5 game series nothing averages out. A team can be hitting well and another can grow cold. The better team, the better roster was the PHillies both times. Plz stop talking. You sound very stupid.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
You sound like an incredibly sore loser who is in denial. You’re trying to compartmentalize, not me. I’m saying if you want to say you’re the better team, you have to win. You’re saying winning isn’t the point when it comes to being better.
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no. Not in baseball. The Red Sox got pushed out of the playoffs for the Rays. You taking their roster over the Red Sox? no. ill answer it because you don’t seem capable of common sense atm. That makes them a better team. The Phillies have a better roster currently than the cardinals, you would be better off betting them to win 96 games than the Cards, they will have a better record through 162 games. Thus, they are a better team that just lost 3 of 5 games in one random october. Stop being so silly
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re arguing that the Phillies were more prepared for the regular season you won’t get argument. If you’re saying the definition of best team isn’t champion then why do you watch sports?
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The New York Giants were the best team in the NFL this year?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
They were better than the 2007 Giants that beat the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. But saying they are better than one of the worst teams to ever win a Super Bowl is not saying much at all. Which is probably the most you can say in regards to the 2011 Giants.
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The Redskins beat them TWICE this year. Are they the best team?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Wasn't in the playoffs. Doesn't count.
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The Broncos are soooo much better than the Steelers
Obviously
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
The sad part is, it almost seems like he is saying that people use the “the better team lost” argument as a way to make themselves feel better about their team losing but I find it to be the complete opposite. When the Phillies lost to the Yankees in 2009 I was annoyed, mostly because I hate the Yankees but I believed the Yankees were the better team, so I accepted it. But the last two years, no, the Phillies lost to inferior teams and that makes it so much worse.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
the playoffs are a crapshoot! the best team doesnt always win!
look at the previous NYG/Pats SB back in what 2008? The Pats were an undefeated, record breaking team. By far the best team on paper in the league. They went to the SB and had a great fight that came down to a David Tyree luck beyond all luck catches. Giants won. They were by no means better.
The better team loses all the time. That’s part of what makes sports what it is. If the better team always won they wouldn’t play the game.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
In baseball, actually in most things, the better team is usually the team that has sustained success over a greater time period than a 5 or 7 game series. That’s why the playoffs are what they are, because in a short series the better team can lose.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
In the playoffs the crappy teams you beat are no longer there. Feasting on the Nationals doesn’t mean you’re better than a team facing a different schedule. It would be different if every team played every team every day, like in golf or something.
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are you stupid?
Did you pay attention to the central last season? The cards lost plenty of games to terrible teams. They got in on the last day for a reason.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Funny, so did the Flyers, and they almost won a Cup that year.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yea and guess what?
We wouldn’t have been a better team than the bruins or the blackhawks. We would have just won a title.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
So the problem isn’t understanding, it’s definition. You define the best team as the team that has the best regular season, I define it as the team that wins the championship.
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no I define it as the team with the best players,
that plays the best all year, that I would bet on more if I had to, etc.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
also,
We were CLEARLY the better team than the bruins going into next season. mean, we BEAT them in the playoffs, right? right guys? so we’re a better team then?
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
He’s done.
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Funny you should say that. The Cardinals were in a division last year with the combined winning % of .477, the Phillies and their division’s winning % was .519.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Wait a second so let me get this straight.
The Flyers lost to the Isles on Tuesday. The Islanders are the better team?
Pardini you simply don't watch baseball.
I think we all figured it out at this point
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I watch a lot of baseball, like all sports, winning the championship is how I define who is the best team.
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Hey Pardini, he’s gone. Let’s call it quits on replying to this chain of comments up here.
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I mean gone as in done. As in last strike.
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And that’s the last of that discussion.
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Ha, it’s probably best we stop talking about it.
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Correct – they were better than us, in those series. Obviously
You’re initial post I interpreted as the Phils lost to better teams on paper.
The Yankees were better than the Phillies, the Giants were better than the phillies, and the Cardinals were better than the Phillies. All three of these teams were also better than everyone else in the league though. Not really heartbreak. In 2008 we were the best team.
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I agree about the Yanks and Cards. But the Giants just got lucky and hot at the right time.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
See my fanshot- not even in a 162 game season the breaks don’t even out. To say that the better team always wins a 5 or 7 game series is craziness.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
this is what marginal, casual fans do.
The best team doesn’t win the championship every year. If you follow sports, you know this.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I’ve read this argument and it never makes sense. If you’re better win the game. If you don’t win, who cares about stats if you don’t win. That being said, I expected us to beat the Cardinals but I didn’t think we were better than the Yankees. The Giants had the pitching so I wasn’t ever confident enough to be heartbroken.
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it’s not about stats. What you’re trying to do is stupid. That’s not baseball. Go back to BGN plz. This logic doesn’t fit in hockey or baseball. Stop being a moron
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
What’s weird about your argument is that it implies that last year, the Phillies were the better team, then the Cardinals were, then the Phillies were, but then in the end the Cardinals were.
There’s a difference between “who played better on this day [or this week]” and “which team is better”, in my opinion. It seems strange to argue that which team is better changes on a daily basis.
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No, they were not. I’ll give you the 2009 New York Yankees, but the 2010 Phillies were a better baseball team than the 2010 Yankees and the 2011 Phillies were a much better baseball team than the 2011 St. Louis Cardinals. If it keeps you sleeping at night that they lost to better teams, then you can believe it, but that is just not reality. In fact, in the 2010 NLCS against the Giants, the Phillies outscored the Giants 20-19 over the course of the series and in the 2011 NLDS the Phillies outscored the Cardinals 21-19. The Giants won three of their four games by one run in the NLCS, which is a ridiculous amount of luck.
What happened is both the Giants and the Cardinals in those respective series put up an absurd BABIP (Batting Average on Balls In Play), a statistic almost fully determined by luck. A team has no control if a groundball goes right to a defender or in a hole. Same goes with fly balls.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it’s the facts of the situation. The 2010 Phillies and 2011 Phillies were both the best teams in baseball in their respective season, with the 2011 Phillies being arguably the greatest incarnation of the Phillies. Since the Phillies won the 2008 World Series, each subsequent team has only gotten better, though that trend will likely end this coming season.
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Why are u wasting so many words on this person?
They are not thinking clearly.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
It’s called having a civil conversation.
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Your comment may be correct.
Your attitude is wrong. Stop it.
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
It’s not that he’s not thinking clearly, it’s just that he does not understand the concept of small sample sizes and how a small sample will not always produce the results of the better team winning.
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Considering my master’s degree in supply chain with a statistical focus I understand statistics and sample sizes quite well. I also understand the concept of graciously accepting defeat. The managers of Long Term Capital Management to this day will tell you they ran the best model in the world. They lost billions of dollars on a “fluke in the markets.”
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If you truly did understand small sample sizes in sports, you would not be saying what you are saying.
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I do understand them, but in the end all that matters is winning, not some stupid stats. Do you really go home after a loss and say “How could this happen?! These stats, if only we played the 255 times necessary for a 95% confidence level!!!”
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you're just way off.
I’m beginning to think you don’t watch baseball/
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Various athletes do various things, I am not inclined for them to analyze it. It’s a known fact some baseball players welcome advanced stats and look at them, and others don’t. Some GMs go by them (one example: Billy Beane), other teams stay away from them (one example: Ruben Amaro, Jr.). But as fans, they give us excellent tools for analysis of what happens and provide us with a greater knowledge of sports than we ever had before. These series have been discussed, talked about, and analyzed, and what you see in my above explanation of the Phillies playoff losses in the last three years is the results of that.
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its like playing with fire though. bettman already hates the flyers…bitching to the league about the officiating will only fuel it i feel.
betteman would have a shit fit if the flyers walk out during a nationally telivised game
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screw that no point in playing a game your pre determined to lose
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Shanhammer (Shanahan) now, not Bettman.
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by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
im listening and bundy is killing the linesmen. is it that bad?
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions
some1 finally grew the balls to speak out
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lol hes been speaking how bad things have been for about 2 weeks. this isnt the first game at all
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
oh..havent listened to the radio in a long time
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
welp, I think it's settled. If we can't even beat the rangers in 5 trys. how are we going to even compete with the real teams
like the Bruins, Canucks, Redwings, etc
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST reply actions
who knows they can get knocked out in the 1st round, they are the rangers
"Its the letter D"
by Rory B. Bellows on Feb 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
ummm the rangers are a real team. they play more sound hockey than the bruins right now and have the best goalie in the league this year. look who won it all last year; the rags are the bruins of this
yea, except minus the great skill players and scary good offense. Give me a break with that comment.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I'm sorry.
A marginal goal scorer DOES make up for their entire team not being anywhere close to the level that Boston is at.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot the new rule that said if you’re down by 1 with 8:33 to go you get the L.
Plenty of time, my friend. Plenty of time!
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
did you see the new rule where the refs just give the finger to the flyers all game….its in full effect
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Not this again.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
:-))
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
so happy you got double chins
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by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
i promise no threats lol
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"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Haha. Right on.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
it’s about how we are playing, if it were 0-0 i would be upset right now.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Just out of curiosity, how many people were saying this about the Flyers in 2010 when they lost 1-0 to the Oilers? Of course, Canucks, Red Wings, and Bruins would have been replaced with Capitals, Penguins, and Blackhawks, but the point remains.
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You know what i really hate? When a bad call goes against us, we immediately proceed to give up a goal and fall apart.
WAYNE TRAIN HAS ARRIVED AT GOAL STATION!

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wayne train's answer

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z
i rally hope simmonds isnt up this year cause we wont be able to afford him
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I can't wait for Simmonds to bulk up this offseason
Guy is a STUD
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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interesting. rangers d-man lost his man down low
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST reply actions
You’re usually only allowed 1 player on the ice. Maybe that’s next. If it’s tied after 3 shooters you move on to a Deflection Contest!!!!
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Deflection contest would be pretty sweet. Shooter has to be behind blue line, deflector can be anywhere he wants but can’t possess the puck, only deflect it.
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Works for me.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Why does he keep getting put in shootouts is the better question
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by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Because he’s good at them in practice.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Totally saw the ref wanting to go up with the arm on that rinaldo hit
I go Bananas for Wayne Simmonds.
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Good to see the boys play with some composure now!
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions
I liked the JJ comment: “Simmonds was camped out in his office”
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GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Awesome visual of Simmonds in a flannel sitting in a tent inside a cubicle, complete with campfire.
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by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he reminds me of mike knuble. i love having someone like that on this team.
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yes indeed. The non-resigning of Knuble was dumb.
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Does he play D?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
unfortunately knuble’s 39 isnt quite like jagr’s 39
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
This. I love how never stops skating no matter what.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Ultimately worthless? He’s been the best Flyer on the ice and his play is why we even got a shot on goal where Simmonds scored.
by fiveredapples on Feb 11, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
He fucking fell! That’s not tripping!
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They called that tripping? I could understand if they wanted to call interference
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I thought I saw him motion but I think they just said interference.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
IF the Rangers go up 2-1 on this,
I’m leaving my feet for every check next shift. Every fucking check.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:39 PM EST reply actions
If you are going to call a penalty, at least make sure it’s actually a penalty.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
You’re saying this to THESE refs?
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That’s not helping Mez.
That’s not helping at all.
Prepare your sleep apparatus.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 11, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions
that had to have been orchestrated the whole way
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions
These refs have ruined this game. I don’t care who wins. They’ve put the Rangers on two bullshit PPs for two bullshit goals.
the two shit calls I’ll give you. but those calls don’t lead directly to Rangers goals
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
But they did.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Feb 11, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
The refs know they will score Bob can’t get shutouts.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Feb 11, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
yes, but the inability of the Flyers to kill a power play also factors in. to say the refs gave the rangers 2 goals isn’t accurate
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I will give you that that only happens in Pittsburgh.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Feb 11, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
its impossible to say they did or didnt, you cant prove the rangers wouldnt be up without the penalties and you cant prove they would be
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"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
So stop blaming them for the Flyers currently being behind in the game.
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Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
im not blaming them for being behind im blaming them for being as good at their job as congress has been
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Why? The refs gave two PPs that the Rangers didnt deserve and they scored on both.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
The goals just illustrate the point. I’d say the same if I were a NY fan. Bad calls like that ruin the game. Refs: stop blowing your fucking whistle and let the players sort it out.
but a game is full of missed calls and wrongly made calls. it’s about how you bounce back after those poorly made calls, and the Flyers have bounced back
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
fuck this team,
fuck this game, fuck this league. I got the fucking nba.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions
That was a very nice shot by Gaborik.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
i wonder what they are sating over at bsb…think they agree they are being given this game on a platter?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Checked that after the awful Sestito penalty. They were pleased to see Sestito get the phantom minor.
typical rangers fans.
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Is there a fanbasae that openly says “wow, all of those calls were lucky.”? I haven’t found one yet.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think the community here is pretty good at saying if the Flyers are lucky or not
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I like to think ours is too. But everyone complains about refs when things go wrong. Easy scapegoats.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
no community of Rangers fans is a good one IMO
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
George, I posted earlier that I think there is a bullseye by the league on Sestito and Rinaldo, and that it is stupid for the Flyers to dress them both if they don’t have to.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I would buy that.
We dealt with the same garbage with Avery after a while. It took two years, but you can see it in his penalties taken. He went from drawing 2 to every 1 he took, to that ratio evening out completely.
Those type of players are going to take awful penalties. There’s no really avoiding it.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Those type of players are going to take awful penalties.
Sadly, this. More sadly is that occasionally the refs anticipate this coming, and overreact.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Bingo. That’s why I’m a fan of not employing those players, but my opinion differs from roughly 30 NHL head coaches. Maybe 29, the Wings are always an exception.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
go back to your own blog. Rangers have been terrible for past 10 seasons, one good season and you guys think your on top.
Uh, George always posts good stuff here.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Uh, not the protocol here. We welcome others unless they start trolling. George does not.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I am? Everyone prior to your reaction has been quite cordial.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
George, the masthead and several of the others of us are trying to reinforce the BSH culture. There was a problem last week, there are a lot of relative newbies. Note that several of us immediately tried to make sure you are welcome.
Of course, trolls are NOT welcome.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I read the reinforcement post. This is a very well run place or I wouldn’t be hanging around.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
He’s here all the time. He’s an honorary friend of BSH.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
No, actually it’s another hockey fan having a conversation, one hwo adds quite a bit to those conversations.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not mad just stating my opinion of Rangers fans in general nothing personal against George. It’s simply my opinion.
You should preface it with “in my opinion” then, because that’s not how it goes around here, and someone else coming in might think you speak for others.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
you should know better by now.
honestly, if you come here a lot, people get banned for their opinions a lot.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Not really. it’s how you say it.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
No, but if someone who’s a fan of another team comes by here to chat, they should be allowed as long as they aren’t being obnoxious. If they start chatting and get “go back to your own blog” they may think that’s what everyone thinks.
And you never get banned for your opinion, possibly how you present it is another story.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
funny how many "RANGERS FAN"s there are now that they aren't embarrassing.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
You’re barking up the wrong tree here, btw
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Lundqvist is the reason they aren’t still embarrassing. As much as I do hate Tortorella Lundqvist is the best goalie in the league.
and tortarella plays a good system
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
You should watch the Rangers in their own zone. It’s a complete team concept on D. Looks a lot better than the Flyers.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Not to burst your little bobble, but the Rangers give up 0.1 less shot/game then the Flyers, the differences is in sv%
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa there, this guy is one of the good ones.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't talkin about this guy btw.
Just fans of the Rangers that I’ve known for years that I just fouind out were fans of hockey.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Happens with every sport, but yes, NY sucks like that. It’s also the product of having multiple teams. Lots of people that jump back and forth to fit in.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think Sestito should have gotten an extra minor for roughing?
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
whilst being jumped by three players…not even an even up call
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
I will usually say when an iffy penalty is in our favour, and accept real penalties that are deserved.
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
the Rangers’ fans fo a lot of things wrong so it wouldn’t surprise me to find some there.
by RealSantaClaude on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
id say us, but lucky calls rarely come our way
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
We have gotten several lucky bounces and phantom PPs, you just dont remember em as much as the one there go against us
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
We have fans openly questioning the leagues integrity regarding calls against us…so there’s that.
Blueshirt Banter - Where Rangers' Fans Matter
Tracking the Rangers - Numbers don't lie. They just don't agree with you.
Twitter: RangerSmurf
"Oh, that sensible and sober* Rangers fan guy who is cool, actually" - Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey
*Statement has not been verified nor regressed
by George E. Ays on Feb 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
theyre bashing nolan for his peco power play call
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
sestito and rinaldo….the bash brothers
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think I need to make this a t-shirt.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
do it up. i might even buy it since you took my random statement and made it worth something
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fight ≈ extra penalty on Flyers ≈ NY goal.
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Jagr is determined today. I like this. It bodes well for us.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
And the music guy even plays “Moves like Jagr”
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Hey DG
Question earlier: After the trade deadline, can the Flyers call up Bartulis without him going through waivers? I said yes, but I wanted to double-check.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Just because.

Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
Thanks, Chem.
I saw her post something, so I wanted to post quickly.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I answered above….
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and I messed up….although partially because he asked a question I wasn’t anticipating.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I have Lundqvist fatigue
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 11, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions
I’m gonna smack that perfect hair right off his head.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t wanna harm his face or head region, so just kick him in the shins a few times please
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t hurt him, just his hair.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
imagine how intimidating he’d be with an eyepatch
laperriere, sounds like some water i'd drink.
sideshow bobs for president
haha if he had a hook for a hand would it be called hooking or holding
by profoundnotions on Feb 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
did you forget to untap during the upkeep phase?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
this is in response to Lundqvist fatigue
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
We overpaid for Pronger when we acquired him, now it’s biting us in the ass after one good playoff run.
This is where I think more attention should be given in terms of Attrition rates among age 30+ players. It should be calculated into what to expect from free agents and long term acquisitions.
SECOND PERIOD THREAD
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2012/2/11/2791979/second-period-thread-party-on-wayne#comments
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2012/2/11/2791979/second-period-thread-party-on-wayne#comments
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
Really? A special on how they improved MSG? Give me a break.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
I assume lighting will be conspicuously absent from this production.
Editor at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.
Lol. You would be right.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
He got it while serving Sestitios game misconduct
by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
How does he get a misconduct while in the penalty box?
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Mouth off to the refs
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
No, and I’m actually most upset with that call. More than the other penalties. No need.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Was only a 10
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions

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