Ugh: Rangers (lots of goals), Flyers 2
by Travis Hughes on Feb 11, 2012 5:18 PM EST
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Here's the worst part about the Flyers fifth loss of the season to the New York Rangers: it was probably the best of all five games by the Flyers. It doesn't feel like that given defensive breakdown after defensive breakdown in the third period, but the Flyers were legitimately the better team for the first 40 minutes of the hockey game.
The Rangers power play absolutely ate the Flyers penalty killing units apart all game long, but at five-on-five, the Flyers did a great job getting in front of Henrik Lundqvist and generating quality scoring chances. It sucks, too, because the PK has actually been pretty strong lately, and the power play has probably been the lone bright spot over the last week of frustrating hockey.
"Obviously, they got three or four goals on the power play," said Claude Giroux afterwards. "I think we have to stay out of the box. We know they have a good power play and we shot ourselves in the foot. I think we didn't play that bad, but if we played five-on-five with them we'd win this game. That wasn't the case tonight."
Special teams decided the game, and the Flyers were just absolutely demolished in anything that resembled special teams. We could try to take the silver lining -- that the Flyers were the better team at even strength -- and look at that as a benefit. But it's already February, and the Flyers have lost five games to the Rangers in just about five different ways. They've lost on the road, they've lost outside, and now they've lost at home.
The Rangers have won close games, come-from-behind games, and laughable games, but no matter the way they've reached the final result, each one has been fair. They're just a better team, and the Flyers cannot beat them. Let's just hope this isn't a matchup in the playoffs.
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That sucked!
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by MJDII on Feb 11, 2012 5:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Feelin' pretty good about not being able to watch today
I believe you when you say today was probably better than any of the other ones, but that’s interesting. I thought that at least in the Winter Classic we controlled things pretty handily other than for a stretch in the third period, and Lundqvist was just playing really really well. Today from what I was gathering on Twitter the defense kinda sucked and we were just being lazy and undisciplined.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 11, 2012 5:33 PM EST reply actions
Maybe it’s the loss fresh in my mind but is the addition of ONE player going to sure up the defense? (cap $ and everything aside)
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 11, 2012 5:39 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I love lavi, but all the assistant coaches need to go.
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by BannedStreetBully on Feb 11, 2012 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s probably a bit much. This team is still one of the best three in the East, easily. They’re just going through a rough patch and can’t beat the Rangers.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 11, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
To my ears, saying we’re in the top 3 seems to be as much of an indictment of the rest of the East as it is a statement that we’re better than we’ve played lately.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Also true.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 11, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe its just me, but I think the last 2 games and 2 periods have been really really good hockey from the Flyers, does the end result in 2 of them suck?
We even out shot the Rangers and I can see it is not score effects as the Rangers out shot the Flyers in the 3rd period.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 12, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I have serious doubts about that- we’re 11-14 in our last 25. Bruins, Pens, Rangers are better then us at this point. Playoff team, sure. Serious contender? Seriously doubt it.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
Pens are 14-11 in their last 25 — 10-10 in games decided in the first 65 minutes and 4-1 in the shootout.
Flyers are 14-11 in their last 25 — 10-10 in games decided in the first 65 minutes and 1-4 in the shootout.
Whether you think the shootout is a crapshoot or not, their records don’t make an incredibly compelling case that either team is better than the other right now.
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The playoffs are a whole different creature. I like our chances against any team not named the Bruins or the Rangers.
by mattsotheran on Feb 12, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I’d say top 4, because it looks like Pittsburgh is pulling it back together, but the point remains.
Now what I’m not looking forward to is the Flyers-Pens matchup that’s inevitably going to happen in the first round of the playoffs.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 11, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
All it’s gonna take is one game. The Rangers are not a great matchup for this team, but there’s still a lot of hockey left to play. Also: I hate NY.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
by doubleh on Feb 11, 2012 6:06 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Also: I hate NY
Just think about the Mets. That solves everything.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 11, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
LOLMETS!
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by doubleh on Feb 11, 2012 6:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’m surprised you didn’t mention how bad the refs were this game. It seemed like after every scuffle a flyer would be put in the box and the rangers got off scot free.
"Fuckin right G."
The refs are bad every game so you can’t use that as an excuse. Gotta make adjustments.
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by doubleh on Feb 11, 2012 6:25 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
idk theirs bad and then theres the borderline money on the game reffing we’ve gotten the today and last weekend
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MICHAEL!
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If you seriously believe that there is money being paid to refs to throw games, or Bettman is out to get the Flyers, I urge you to take off the tin foil hat. It’s ridiculous at this level to think that is happening.
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by JerseyDriver on Feb 11, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
it was a metaphor im just saying thats the level of reffing we’ve gotten
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MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
while I don’t think its happening and am not gonna use that as an excuse, do remember it did happen in the NBA not too long ago.
….which had nothing to do with favoring one team over another, IIRC. Every fanbase thinks the refs are biased against them. It’s a bit absurd to think the Flyers fans are right and everyone else is wrong.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 11, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes you have to bite your tongue. Unless it is some major controversy like the clock malfunction in Los Angeles or Ghislain Hibert Avery Ruling Pronger, you gotta bite your tongue. Over the course of every season, you are going to have major complaints about some calls, and the other team will have some major complaints about calls. Some of these gripes may be legit, others not so much, but incompetence and missed calls loom around every corner. So unless it’s something major like the above examples, biting your tongue is the best thing you can do in that situation. Plus, while I will complain about officiating, I hate hate HATE blaming losses post-game on officials, unless there is a particularly egregious performance.
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I’m not blaming the refs for the loss but they certainly didn’t help. 2 debatable calls led to goals and that’s why Briere ended up getting the 10 minute misconduct for mouthing off to the refs. The pk sucked big time this game and I thought Timonen played like crap today. He was basically invisible out there on defense.
"Fuckin right G."
2 debatable calls led to goals
That sounds like blaming the refs to me.
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Partially. I didn’t blame them for the other 3 goals. You can’t tell me giving sestito an extra 2 minutes on top of the 5 minute fighting and 10 minute misconduct was fair. It was clearly not the refs fault they lost the game because the penalty kill was so bad. It didn’t help though that they kept putting the flyers in that situation.
"Fuckin right G."
I try not to get in the habit of that unless it’s really, really bad. Today was just typically bad.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 11, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
how about last weekend?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Last Saturday I wrote the recap and it didn’t matter how the refs were, the Flyers would have gotten their asses handed to them no matter what playing like they did for 40 minutes.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
but you agree the reffing was horseshit?
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Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
I agree there were certain calls that were almost indefensible.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 11, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Tired of hearing about the refs. We should play well enough that what they do doesn’t matter. It seems I’m hearing this excuse after each of these losses: “the refs were bad.” How many games does it take to admit that maybe we were bad? We can’t control what the refs do, we can control our own play, especially all these damn defensive breakdowns. Let’s worry about fixing what we can control instead of whining about what we can’t.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I can’t stand when people say “refs were bad” (maybe because I ref). I don’t understand how people can hold sports officials to this insanely high standard. Refs are human – don’t forget it. How about you try to go out there and make everybody happy? Until we get robot officials to make calls by-the-book, people will be complaining that refs suck. And even then, some people will claim that somebody programmed the refs against us.
Your point is right on. Play better, make the refs a non-factor.
by mattsotheran on Feb 12, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
As sick as it is, after 5 losses, I still don’t want to accept that the Rangers are on a completely different level from the Flyers. I’ve seen them be the better team multiple times this season through 40 minutes. The Rangers have just found another gear over the last 20 that the Flyers haven’t found yet. I feel like its in the heads of a decent amount of flyers now too and theyre having trouble shaking it
by Clutterbuck4MVP on Feb 11, 2012 6:26 PM EST reply actions
Let’s just hope this isn’t a matchup in the playoffs.
Unfortunately, and I don’t mean to be a downer, if you expect the flyers to go far in the playoffs this year at all chances are it will be at some point. If you’re content with a first round exit, sure we won’t see the rangers in a playoff series, and yes it is possible that they could be beaten by their first or second round matchup.
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But on the other hand, I cant imagine that playing games on Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun, Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun is particularly helpful when many of those games are division rivals (NJ, NYR twice, NYI) and teams playing for a playoff spot (TOR, NJ).
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It’s just mind boggling how we had like an entire week off in November or October or something and then have this now
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 11, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
It does seem like they need to even out the schedule a little more. I know there’s conflicts with buildings and travel, etc. But tomorrow will be the 6th game in 9 days, and there were indeed spaces where they’d have 5-6 days off. Strange.
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And it’s especially tough when you head into a stretch like this in a bit of a losing funk. A couple of weeks go by and you’re struggling to hold onto your playoff spot. It would be great to have a 5-6 day break right about now (or preferably after the Isles game)
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 11, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this 8 game stretch is brutal. I really hate the NHL’s scheduling sometimes.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I mean, the playoffs run on a pretty strenuous schedule, with games typically every other day, but this is worse. I can’t immediately remember a playoff series with games on consecutive days. I think they generally try to avoid that.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Not gonna lie, starting to worry a bit. But I didn’t get to see this one so I don’t know how we played, I just don’t like the result. Looking forward to watching the game with Detroit tonight, hoping it’s a good one.
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