Czech please: Jagr's OT winner gives Flyers much-deserved win over Jets
by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2012 10:24 PM EST
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Earlier today, when the Flyers were preparing for this game against the Winnipeg Jets, we hoped that the start of a long road trip out West would also be a slump buster for the orange and black. About ten hours later, it certainly feels like a result that could do just that.
I won't lie: When James van Riemsdyk was dancing around the neutral zone with about 30 seconds left in the game, I slouched back on my couch a little bit. I figured it was over, and I started mentally writing this game story ... Ondrej Pavelec steals one for the Jets ...
But then he barreled up the left wing, and Wayne Simmonds, who's been playing like that face shield makes him Metal Mario, somehow went unmarked by the Winnipeg defense. Simmonds parked in front of the net, Dustin Byfuglien stared at van Riemsdyk, and the dish was just perfect enough for Simmer to poke it between Pavelec's pads.
The Flyers absolutely dominated at five-on-five play all game long. Every line. Guys from Claude Giroux to Simmonds to Max Talbot to Reemer to .. well, basically every forward had phenomenal games, and this was going to be a cruel, cruel Tuesday night if the Flyers wound up losing. We've faced a lot of those lately, and thank Orange Jesus, this one was different.
With less than a minute left in overtime, Danny Briere and Jaromir Jagr connected for another similar goal -- Briere behind the net, Jags in front, beating the defense and Pavelec with a shot from the slot. The Flyers really owned that area of the ice tonight, and three of their five goals came from winning battles and beating the Jets defense near the crease.
It was exactly the win the Flyers needed to kick off their West Coast trip. That's gonna be a fun flight to Edmonton tonight. (Well, until they realize they're flying from Winnipeg to Edmonton...)
Questions with Answers
- Pavel Kubina's first game as a Flyer. So, how's that? He played 20 minutes, got some PK time, some PP time. He was beaten on Andrew Ladd's PPG in the second period, but it was a really strong play from Blake Wheeler that made it happen. Can't blame him too much for that.
- Ilya Bryzgalov needs a bounce-back game. Does Ilya Bryzgalov have a bounce-back game? Bryz made some saves and overall wasn't awful, but two of the four goals against were just bad -- Dustin Byfuglien beat him low to the short-side in the first period to open the scoring, and Evander Kane gave Winnipeg the lead on a goal that hit nothing in front ... except the top of Bryz's glove. The Flyers as a team got the win and deserved it, and Bryz made some key saves along the way... but he shouldn't have allowed at least two of those goals tonight.
- Speaking of, how does the Winnipeg crowd treat Bryz? They aren't exactly the best of friends. Admittedly jealous of that atmosphere. It'll wear off, Jets fans. Don't you worry. They're still the Thrashers at heart.
- The leash is off. How does Zac Rinaldo contain himself? I noticed him crash into somebody in front of the net tonight, but he played just six minutes in total, fewer than anybody else in the game.
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Totally stole PraiseMartyMoose’s line for the headline, but I hope making it the COTN makes up for it.
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well you gave credit in the corner so u skirted sopa
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
They beat the Rags. So lose-lose for us.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
Always a good day when the flyers win
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Eh… lose-lose would have been a 3 point game. I still think we can catch NYR.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
I don’t think so. I think the NYR are just better.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
But we have defense, a bounce back game from Bryz, and JVR and Briere are back now D:
Hyka'n it up a notch.
I just like the system they play and their goaltender is having an outrageous season.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
I dont know what is so great about the Rangers system outside of a crazy good season by Lundkvist? They allow the same shots on goal as us, so outside of Lundkvist, I have a hard time figuring out what makes there system better
by Anders Jensen on Feb 21, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I just think our system allows for many more defensive breakdowns because it’s so offensive-minded. Odd man rushes take years off of my life.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
It’s mostly the consistency they have I believe. They almost always run it well, and don’t make a lot of mistakes. On the other end, they take advantage of the opposing team’s mistakes, like the last time they played the Flyers. The Flyers were keeping up, but a few small errors and the Rags were all over them.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 21, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I know we joke about bryz, but think about it. He went from Phoenix to Philly. That’s like getting thrown into an ice bath from 100 degree water. He’s established himself and just needs to adjust. I’m sure closer to then end of the season and beginning of the next one he’ll play much better and be more solid
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
hope is fun
"Women should have three breasts - two in front and one in the back for dancing." -Al Bundy
by HankMonahan on Feb 21, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
It was said in the game forum, Look at Thomas’s off year…look what he did the year after
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I guess a win is a bounce back... But he looked more lucky than good.
the guy can’t make it through a game without letting up a soft one.
.846 save percentage. pretty ugh.
My primary measurement the rest of the year is the saves he should make. It’s getting to that time of year when the bad goals are killer. If he steals a game it’s a bonus. I just don’t want him losing games.
Disclosure: I’m not a Bryz hater and I think the defense has sucked.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 21, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
nah. They’ve allowed more shots then they’ve taken. Their offense reeks of regression.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
NYG allowed more points than they scored this season. Sometimes teams surprise you.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
oh dear, don’t go there with that team with me. #sorespot #worstsuperbowlchampsofalltime #nomorebroadwayparades
My belief is that the Rangers are a good team, but not this good. If we throw out the five games we’ve played against them, we’re ahead of them. Now, I realize we can’t magically do that, but I really don’t think they are 8 points better then us, so with a little luck, we just might get them at the wire.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
82 game season > 4 game season
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I realize that. Was just pointing out that planning for regression is sometimes a futile endeavor.
FWIW, I hope he’s right, but I think we have to worry more about keeping ahead of Pens/NJD.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
Well, I have a bottle of scotch bet on the division, so I’m focused on both. But I also think that “some teams don’t regress” and “I like their system” isn’t a much better predictor than “most teams regress.”
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Fair enough.
Know that I definitely don’t do predictions. I never said NYR would win the division, but at this point in the season I have a hard time saying they aren’t for real. I’m hoping for them to be playing their worst hockey heading into the end of April, I guess.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
I’ve spent the better part of this calendar year developing a code that simulates baseball seasons based on historical data- and sometimes teams don’t regress over the course of 162 games let alone 82 (see fanpost #shamelessplug). If we were able to play this season about 100 times, then all the breaks would even out. But we only get to see one iteration….
I’d love to do this with hockey, but I’m not sure we would have the data to do it properly. Until we do, there really isn’t a way to see what a team’s actual talent level is- because often times it isn’t what their record is. It’s close, and (a lot) more often then not, it’s really close, within 6 games for a baseball season, and it’s probably around 6 points for a hockey team. But outliers do exist, and I think the Rangers are an example of that. But I could be wrong. After all I am king in the art of wishful thinking.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
There’s a lot of season left. We collapsed last year from the top spot, who’s to say anyone else can’t?
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I could have seen this, between working late and getting suckered to dish, I’ve been missing my flyers. Bars and tix are the only way to go. But I just don’t get the panic button pressers, the flyers have historically had not as good second half and later month seasons if i’m not mistaken
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions
Also, fun game. The guys over at Arctic Ice Hockey are pretty nice, too.
I may sound crazy, given our record against them this year, but I think our games against Winnipeg have been some of the most fun I’ve had watching all year. Very frustrating, but also lots of fun.
Hyka'n it up a notch.
You would be nice too if you just got a hockey team back after years of exile
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Even strength TOI for D
Grossman: 15
Everyone else: 19
Overall:
Grossman: 16
Timonen: 24
Everyone else: 20-21
gotta love that balance
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 21, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions
Wow really? that’s crazy. Talk about mixing up the d lines
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Jagr was probably thinking “no shootout…no shootout…no shootout.” Thank you for making that great shot, Jagr. 2 pts and on to Edmonton.
Pavelec was a beast and the Jets deserved a point.
Such a great game. Ups downs, topsy turvy. in the end the flyers deserved to win. 55 shots? you gotta be kidding me. also anyone who says that we should trade JVR is stupid. great way to kick off the Road Trip. GO FLYERS
ps: wayne “train” simmonds is my new favorite flyer. man is a beast. if hes not resigned this offseason i will be disappointed
I love going to bed on such a high note! I’ll be dreaming of that JvR to Simmer goal all night. And with that, I bid you all adieu. Goodnight all :)
"Jagr doesn’t have moves. He has grizzled old man power. He bends reality to his will with a scowl alone." - BannedStreetBully
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 21, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions
Dear ThrashJets,
Remember that game last year? Back when you were the Thrashers? When we were beating you 3-0 in the 3rd and Ville Leino scored a hat trick and I threw my favorite Flyers hat ever on the ice? And then you came back and scored a tying goal with almost time left? And then won in OT? And then beat us five more times after that?
Yeah…I’ve been waiting for this since that game. Payback’s a bitch.
Love,
EHW
PS: Bryz was right about your city. Go get a park or something LOL
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 21, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions
oh, and yes, before anyone asks
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 21, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
just so you know
Your up there with my favorite BSHers.
Suck it, Phaneuf
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's just that yours is stupid.
by Philly37 on Feb 21, 2012 10:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
That was the game my brother cried shutout and became a pariah for a while
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
The forward lines look absolutely amazing with only one of Sestito, Shelley and Rinaldo dressed. I was hard pressed to call any of the lines a “fourth line”.
by roadrunnerdrummer on Feb 21, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions
They’ve been over playing gramps. Hopefully Grossman and Kubina can get him a break for a while to save him for the playoffs provided we make them (superstitious)
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I was at that game with him…And got angry when he threw his Phillies World Series Champs hat…..freakin moron…It never made it to the ice either, i’m pretty sure I saw someone steal it
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Kubina had a Corsi of +18.
Just sayin’
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 21, 2012 11:20 PM EST reply actions
With DZ starts – OZ starts of +3. Not too shabby.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
PAGING DETWEILER ...
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 22, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they just really don't like playing at home anymore.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
I think they’ve won 2 of the 5 games I’ve been to, I’ve been keeping the winning tickets in my wallet for good luck
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeaaaaa COTN!!! That more than makes up for using the headline.
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Also now I’m super freaking pumped because I CAN ACTUALLY WATCH THE THURSDAY NIGHT GAME THIS WEEK.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions
….is it a national broadcast not subject to blackout….
"BOB!...hmm?...BOB!...huh?...BOB!...What!?!...BOB!...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
There's a stray ginger tabby in my neighborhood who frequents my house because the lady who lives downstairs also has a cat: I have taken to affectionately calling him Cladue
by WeDontWinTheLadyByng on Feb 21, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
No. I just have conflicts on Thursday night and haven’t been able to watch any of those games. But since it’s late this week I should be able to watch from the 2nd period or so on.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 21, 2012 11:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I turned my ankle jumping up and down after Jagr scored but it was worth it! What a great play by Danny.
Thanks a lot Select-A-Seat! Now I'm in 122!
"Some might give head coach Dave Tippett and general manager Don Maloney plenty of credit for guiding the Coyotes to two straight playoff berths amid franchise foibles – and they deserve much of it – but Bryzgalov was far and away the team’s most valuable player." - NBC Sports
by Flyers_Section_121 on Feb 21, 2012 11:39 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Freaked out more for the Simmonds goal, but yeah, every lamp in the living room was in danger.
by DrunkHockeyFan on Feb 21, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
That was epic. I just kept yelling “Simmonds!” over and over. I stood up with hands in the air on that goal.
Thanks a lot Select-A-Seat! Now I'm in 122!
"Some might give head coach Dave Tippett and general manager Don Maloney plenty of credit for guiding the Coyotes to two straight playoff berths amid franchise foibles – and they deserve much of it – but Bryzgalov was far and away the team’s most valuable player." - NBC Sports
by Flyers_Section_121 on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Throw your hands in the air and party like you just don’t care.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
Word up
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 22, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Glad we got the win we deserved and all, but WTF is up with the PK? Why is it still so bad?
by FooFighter1124 on Feb 22, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions
Ha.
Carchidi:
Bryz on the sing-song “Illlllyaaaaa” chants: "When 15,000 people support you, it’s pretty impressive." #Flyers
Bryz was asked if Jets fans supported him like the fans back home: "Here they cheer me. In Philly, they boo me," he said.
Those quotes are going to piss off the average Flyers fan a lot. I kinda like that.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 22, 2012 1:35 AM EST reply actions
I’m not pissed off. I’m just sending him an email with the subject ‘How to waive your NMC and accept a trade to the goalie-loving population of Ohio’.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 22, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
you really need to consume some downers
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 22, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
Cool – make it a petition and we’ll all sign up.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 22, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
#Bryzzing
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 22, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome COTN and URL. Glad we finally came up with a win, let’s keep ‘em rollin’, boys.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Wow I keep forgetting to look at the URL.
Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.
Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
Ian Laperriere (EE-an luh-PAIR-ee-YAIR), proper noun. Definition: Bad-assery on skates
by Chemistry66 on Feb 22, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Wait what. I checked out at 30 seconds to go. What the hell. I didn’t bother even looking for a recap or score because I thought I knew the outcome.
/wrong on everything
"I used to be worse, I've learned to control my temper." - Ron Hextall on his early games as a Flyer Follow @gratliff26
Just to show how bad I failed last night, this is the first unread post on the third period thread for me last night:
SIMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:(
"I used to be worse, I've learned to control my temper." - Ron Hextall on his early games as a Flyer Follow @gratliff26
Hahaha. Let this be a lesson to you. Never give up on the Flyers.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 22, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Goalies ...
While Bryzgalov struggled, Pavelec turned in another stout effort in making his 51st appearance of the season and tying a career high for saves in a game. The loss left Pavelec pacing in the hallway of the Winnipeg dressing room afterward, and he did not speak to the media.
“Right after the game, I kind of went up to him,” forward Tim Stapleton said of Pavelec, “and you could tell how frustrated he was. It’s obviously not his fault.”
While Pavelec did not speak, his coach had plenty to say about his goaltender.
“Say what you want, goalies like that, you can win championships with goalies like that, goaltending like that,” Noel said.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2011020892
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
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