Friday Morning Fly By: What's L.A's Version Of Old City?
by Travis Hughes on Feb 24, 2012 6:00 AM EST
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Mike Richards and Jeff Carter have been reunited in Los Angeles. No, that really wasn't a dream. [SBNation.com] [The Cannon] [Jewels From the Crown] [Puck Daddy] [Flyers Faithful]
- Flyers lost last night. We'll spare you the recaps.
- Jaromir Jagr was almost an Oiler four years ago. He decided to go to Russia and play in the KHL instead. [CSN]
- Marc-Andre Bourdon is back with the Phantoms, ready to be a first-pairing guy down there: [PostStar]
- Looking back at the 1985 and 1987 Finals. Damnit. [Philly.com]
- Written before the Carter trade yesterday: Members of the Blue Jackets are rightfully nervous about the trade rumors. [SBNation.com]
- Did a hockey website inadvertently leak the Leafs' deadline plans? [Pension Plan Puppets]
- Jonathan Toews was in a car accident yesterday. He's alright, but while he was getting checked out in the ambulance, bystanders were taking pictures and asking for his autograph. [SBNation.com]
- Finally, HBO's Real Sports did a segment on the Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash the other night. It will both break your heart and make you very, very angry. Video: [Part 1, Part 2]
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The Wall
In the last 10 games, Matt Read has 0 goals and 2 assists.
Yes, the Flyers have been playing poorly, but recall that Reader played a grand total of 37 games in his last full season with a team. He’s now played his 57th game this season.
Has Matt Read hit the dreaded ‘wall’?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 6:35 AM EST reply actions
The Wall keeps The Others out
true story
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
falso
the Wildlings are captured by Robb and Bran in the show. That’s where the chick in rags comes from
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
True, it just means The Wall can be breached. I hope that’s the case for Read. He needs to channel his inner wildling.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
There must have been a door there in the wall when I came in…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
“The women never see the door.”
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 24, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
THE EVIDENCE BEFORE THE COURT SEEMS INCONTROVERTIBLE
THERE"S NO NEED FOR THE JURY TO RETIRE …
(cue Detweiler-Cyborg with reams of stats proving that Read has faced lesser competition while scoring at a reduced pace, thereby making him less valuable to the team than Jody Shelley over the last 10 games).
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
At least Shelley fought last night
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah – I musta been in the bathroom, because I missed it. And it obviously motivated the team to play better through the rest of the game, right???
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
We don’t need no education.
Bob.
by The Dark on Feb 24, 2012 4:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thank you, I was really getting worried nobody got that reference.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Puh-leeze. I could probably recite the entire movie, and point all all the points where the album differs.
But you’re welcome anyway.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 27, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve never seen the movie. I need to fix this.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
If you live near a college campus or a big city look for it on a good screen with superior sound. Unless you have a large and overwhelming home system. It’s not a great movie, but it’s awesome.
And while watching don’t forget that Pink went on to try to feed Ethiopia.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 27, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I don’t think he’s hit the “wall”. I feel like he’s actually put in a very good effort over the past couple games. Fatigue isn’t really something that I’ve associated with him. Any lack of production I’d credit to rookie growing pains. But maybe you guys are seeing something I’m not.
Jagr shoots, Jagr scores!!!!!!
richie and carts
I have a feeling That one, or maybe both, will come back to play in Philly at some point later in their careers
Suck it, Phaneuf
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's just that yours is stupid.
by Philly37 on Feb 24, 2012 7:20 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I seriously doubt it. I got the feeling neither of them took being traded very well. They were in long-term contracts here. Maybe it was just media narrative, but it really came across as Homer breaking their trust.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Agreed. They may miss Philly to some extent, but they have each other lol. At this point, I doubt they’d come back (what do they stand to gain?). Despite the standings, they’re in a pretty good position with LA and no matter how awesome Philadelphia is…I’d rather party in LA (given the choice) 10 times out of 10.
Jagr shoots, Jagr scores!!!!!!
Wow
the HBO sports piece is unreal on so many levels
I'm so sick after watching that.
Could have been avoided so hard but they didn’t.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
twitter: @princessblueezy
Saw this on Crossing Broad and hadn't seen it before
(don’t ask me why I was reading Crossing Broad)
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 7:27 AM EST reply actions
We all make mistakes.
Bob > Bryz
by KT_pucks35 on Feb 24, 2012 9:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So, whats the verdict on this Jack Johnson? I’ve only seen him play ….er, one time, I think. And I don’t remember much aside from him scoring the winning goal in OT. How good a player have CBJ just picked up?
Posting all the way from sunny Manchester, England.
Power play specialist who can’t defend. Think Mike Green on offense, Ryan Parent on defense, mash them together.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
…That is a pretty tragic comparison. Ryan Parent. Geez.
So, I assume there’s no need to ask if you’d have been happy if LA had given the Flyers this package straight up last year. (Purely on value terms)
Posting all the way from sunny Manchester, England.
haha, nope, no need. I’d have been quite angry.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
I guess that shows how his stock has fallen. I wonder if the experience has matured him at all.
Posting all the way from sunny Manchester, England.
I guess that shows how his stock has fallen.
Wow, wasn’t he mentioned in the same group as the Doughty and Weber types earlier in his career?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
wait, Mike Green is better than someone at defense?
/headasplode.gif
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Remember when everyone had more goals than Scott Gomez?
by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 24, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Not even close to Green on offense…or Parent on defense… ;)
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I believe in next year.
by red army line on Feb 25, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
But it gets the point across!
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Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 25, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, it’s what a Flyers fans thinks of those two…okay, get it.
Red Line Station and @RedArmyLine, featuring coverage of the most frustrating team in the NHL
I believe in next year.
by red army line on Feb 25, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I like his music. It’s pretty solid
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
…I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t expecting that…
Posting all the way from sunny Manchester, England.
glad I didn’t disappoint
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
i used to really be into heavy metal. then bands like Judas Priest, Metallica, Zeppelin
Now primarily Zeppelin, Springstein, House music and occasional rap/hip hop
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Did this change coincide with a large forehead scar appearing, and random headaches?
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
errr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7sIqyoRFiU&feature=related
"Women should have three breasts - two in front and one in the back for dancing." -Al Bundy
For others
Derek Zona linked two posts on Jack Johnson:
1) When Dean Lombardi trashed Michigan for letting Johnson leave without any idea how to play defense, saying “How about making a read in your own end about the right guy to pick up? He was awful.”
2) Kings/Sharks scoring chance data where Zona ripped Johnson for this atrocity: “Kings w/ Johnson: 14 / 35 – 28.6%
Kings w/o Johnson: 36 / 45 – 44.4%”
Johnson isn’t good.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor
by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
Really interesting read in the article about Lombardi and Johnson. I didn’t realize he was such a project defensively.
I wonder if at any point LA thought to switch him to a wing..
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Oh? I saw PPP tweet that in the last four years, Johnson was 498th out of 504 players in GoalsFor% and deadlast in FenTied%.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
SB Nation Philly - Associate Editor
by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
If Travis posts it in the next 7 minutes, I’ll link. Otherwise, you’ll have to find it on your own or wait for me to get back from a meeting.
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What do I win?
I think the answer to your question is Westwood. Upscale version of Old City within walking distance of UCLA. No offense to Temple but UCLA is a major upgrade in talent for Richie and Carter.
Nodl 12G 127GP, Talbot 10G 44GP
by chrislanci on Feb 24, 2012 8:22 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
But is UCLA an upgrade in talent on UPenn?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
HELL yes.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think the answer to your question is Westwood.
Actually, Old Town Pasadena is closer to the feel of Old City. Westwood is slightly trendier, but has fewer old buildings.
UCLA is an advantage, however, for Richards and Carter.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
BHFFs. Best Hockey Freunden Fur Immer.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 24, 2012 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let’s be honest here, a long-distance bromance is hard to maintain. It was only a matter of time before they got back together.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
hockey’s important, sure. but it’s the people in your life that matter. who are you going to talk to before you turn out the light every night? who are you going to see when you first…oh never mind.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
“Liar, liar, Michael Cuddyer!”
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
You're just wanting a Hockey Hubby to go with the Baseball Boyfriend.
Bob.
by The Dark on Feb 24, 2012 5:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Lavy’s favorite adjective is “Horseshit.” I love it.
Grumble grumble the second period was horseshit.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
It comes off as less vulgar than bullshit
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm. You’re right. Odd.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Perhaps we should choose something even less offensive. I dunno – Lemur-shit. Chinchilla-shit. Otter-shit. (I like the last one, because if you say it in a Canadian accent it has double entendre.)
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I have Randy Newman’s I Love LA stuck in my head
it’s so catchy
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions
We love it!
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 24, 2012 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
there will be a montage this song with pictures of those 2 drinking together
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Ya know what I hate? When teachers on teach you how to do something one specific way. Then tell you to do homework on line that’s done in a completely different way.n you only give me problems where I’m told how many units are made then I’m not going to be able to do it when they don’t tell me how many are made…this education system is horseshit
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 9:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh no! Your teacher is requiring you to think and make adaptations! What a dick!
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
(This coming from someone who just graduated with an education degree.)
Seriously though, the world doesn’t give you problems in just one specific way, why should your teacher?
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
This. It’s a good thing for teachers to do. Crappy teachers give you “plug and chug” problems (that’s what we called them at my college anyway), and you never learn to do anything other than stick numbers into an equation. When you do that, it doesn’t matter what the equation means, you only know how to use it as-is. Good teachers will show you an example one way to help teach the concept, but then challenge you to manipulate those concepts and use them in a different way on the homework and projects. The longer you have to prepare it, the further they can reasonably ask you to stretch beyond what they’ve shown you. Then hopefully on the exam they are kind and give one of the forms you’ve done before, just to test that you retained the info. You’ve got limited time and resources on an exam, which isn’t typically how an on-the-job situation works (not in engineering, anyway), so it’d be slightly cruel to hit you with strange new stuff on an exam, though it can be done if it’s not too large of a stretch beyond what you’ve done.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I remember helping so many people with structures homework and exams because they were way too used to the “plug and chug” (good term, btw) type of problems. They would switch things up on us on the exams from time to time, I guess I was just lucky enough that those types of problems came easy to me.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
It’s an important ability to have. In the industry, you never know which subset of the variables you’ll know and which ones you’ll want to find. And it usually involves rearranging and combining multiple equations, not just one.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
You use the equations you learned in college? For me my education is about knowing the equations, but in the real world you just use a program to calculate everything for you.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 24, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
That seems to be what it’s like for a lot of people I know.
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
You’re right, because the formulas don’t matter. The concepts do.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
as a Civil Engineer, the formulas matter alot. But even tho I can make the statistic calcualtions of a house, there exist lots of BIM programs now a day there can do it much faster then I can.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 24, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I hear that. I could do a 4th order runge-kutta method by hand to iterate a trajectory, but I’d much rather let the computer do it. :-p
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I prefer doing all my Karnaugh Maps by hand. The fun ones are the three dimensional ones
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Right. If a computer can do the calculation, why is the formula important to you? You need to know its purpose and why you use it.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 12:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I misunderstood you then :)
I still need to know the formulas because if a result from the computer seems odd (if a result seems odd or wrong, it often is wrong), I have to be able to calculate it by hand.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 24, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
You need to know its purpose and why you use it.
Right – so this is back to the point that reaper made. The common engineering education (especially so) is all about the plug-and-chug. Most engineers HATED fluid dynamics, but loved structural analysis. I, on the other hand, LOVED fluid dynamics and HATED structural analysis. Why? Because I learn the theory that creates and drives a given formula to understand it, not simply rote memorization. So fluid dynamics, which is really energy physics, made perfect sense – each permutation of a formula is mathematically-based on the previous, and they all relate back to measured fundamentals of energy. Structural analysis, conversely, was taught as ‘memorize these formulas’ and when I delved into the theory, it rapidly became apparent that most equations and formulas were just approximations or random empirical constants thrown in to get consistent results (often called Newtonian “Physics”). Since the logic was lacking, I just didn’t get it. I mean – why would one need to pretend that one end of a bridge is unattached in order to determine its strength? In reality, that end is a very important component, and equations describing the structural action at that point are easily definable in energy physics … but people prefer Newtonian approximations because they’re ‘simpler’. In the age of computers, why not teach the damn theory correctly, and let the computers do the math?
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
One thing has become apparent, there are a lot of engineers on this site.
I agree with you about teaching the theory behind things and being better able to understand things. My only issue is when the theories made no sense because I couldn’t visualize them. Mechanics was easier because I had a knowledge of “things fall down” E&M was awful because it all went back to crazy math that I didn’t have a solid understanding of and couldn’t visualize. Multivariable calculus is still one of my weak points and I hate it. Hence I had a hell of an awful time during my EE classes.
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
One thing has become apparent, there are a lot of engineers on this site.
True … somehow hockey blogs seem to be like salt licks to engineers. Now we need to find a sociologist or socio-psychologist to tell us why.
‘Envisioning’ things is definitely difficult once one gets to the level of things one can’t actually tacitly see. But as long as the math was logical, I never had a problem. Once someone introduced an approximation or empirical ‘guess’ is when it all broke down for me.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
My job does very much that- I deal with finite elements almost exclusively. The theory is fairly straight-forward, each element has a stiffness based on geometry and material properties, and each element affects those around it. These elements get put into a matrix, the boundary conditions make up another matrix and you solve the matricies to get things like deflections and stress.
But that process requires a lot computations- I’m going million-element-plus solves sometimes, which would take years to solve with pencil and paper. To some it seems pretty easy, import a geometry, break it into a bunch of pieces, apply loads and wait for it to solve and look at a bunch of pictures, but if you don’t do it right, and put the wrong assumptions in there because you’re not familiar with the design or the project, some wrong decisions could be made on a design which would result in the design failing.
#engineersruletheworld
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
Oh don’t get me wrong – I understand WHY ‘Newtonian physics’ exists. And it works to some degree as an approximation. But since we now DO have computers – hell, most peoples’ phones are smarter than the computer I had in college – why should we continue using an inaccurate method? At least acknowledge that it IS just a guess, and also teach the ‘real’ way! That just bothered me to no end in school; although I can appreciate the reasons for it, I think perpetuating the errors is just stupid.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 27, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
As a civil engineer myself, I generally do the flow routing ‘in my head’ for an approximate answer, and then let the computer modeling software confirm or correct my assumptions about a design.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I just got my bachelor this winter and on my master right now and my master is in building installations and not design as that is not my strongest suit.
by Anders Jensen on Feb 24, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
You arnt understanding what I’m saying…my teacher only ever taught us how to do problems where unit usage was given.always. but since he uses a wileyplus system that does all different ways. So really he did only teach us one type of problem but the homework shows all different kinds…get what I’m saying. Had he shown us a multitude of types there wouldn’t be any grumbling but since he only showed us unit usage given problems and how to do it from there, how would I know where to start if unit usage isn’t given?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 12:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I do understand what you’re saying…he’s making you think and find answers yourself..
by mattsotheran on Feb 25, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
ok so then if i show you how to change the oil on a car will you know how to drop the oil tank?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
Story of my College Career
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Real world
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
If it doesn’t have a distillation column or bubble tray reactor, I don’t get it.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Isn’t that what a tear collector is?
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Oh how I miss the Far Side
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Seconded. I have that one framed in my house.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
it’ll be worth it, trust me #2mechanicalengineeringdegrees
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
One Computer Engineering degree was enough for me…
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
WTF does one do with 2 MechE degrees? Qualify for the special Marquis deSade section at Ecole Polytechnique???
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sure some do that, but I work as a structural analyst for a hydroturbine company.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
Hmm. More power to you. Not my cup’o’tea, but perhaps in my line of work (water/sewer/stormwater utility) we use your end products, eh?
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 27, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
good lord. 1 was enough for me. and it wasnt that i barely made it. magna cum laude. but man 1 was enough.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
adaptability is the most important trait if you want to survive and flourish.
Look at Carter. He could have gone to Columbus with enthusiasm. But he knew if he did that he would die an early and lonely death. So he adapted by pouting, whining, getting hurt and not trying on the ice. Then he got traded to L.A. Survival. Thrival.
(No idea if he didn’t try on the ice. It helped my setup.)
Don’t ever hate your teachers. Save that for the goalie.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
getting hurt
If it wasn’t for your sig this would really piss me off.
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 24, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
justifiably
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
FTFY
But he knew if he did that he would diean early and lonely deathat a very old age, having lived a clean and distraction-free life.
/not entirely sarcastic
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
When teachers on teach you how to do something one specific way. Then tell you to do homework on line that’s done in a completely different way
Hahahaha! You should check to see if strategy, the course I teach, is required. (It is at most b-schools). If so, and you have a good professor, your world is about to be rocked.
/I’ve taught reams of reapers
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
ROLLER HOCKEY TOMORROW!
Remember tomorrow at 9 at the Roxborogh rink! Should be a good time!
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh boy. Interesting indeed. Still, I can’t wait to play.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s hitting here (STL) right now.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Damn, if I wasn’t >2 hours away…
I haven’t strapped my rollerblades on in a long time, much less played any hockey. It’s sad.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
If I knew you better I’d offer my couch. I’m 10 minutes away from the rink but I’ve never met you. Sorry man.
Didn’t mean to sound like a dick in that at all hope it was taken as it was intended.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
I feel like I know some of the people on this site that I’ve never met better than some of my friends. That said, I’m guessing hintzy is passed the age of crashing on couches. I know I stopped doing it around 25. What a horrible feeling to wake up on a couch in someone else’s house…
I'm kind of a dick.
I have a truly comfortable couch.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, actually my couches are great to sleep on also, as long as you don’t have your shirt off….I think, for me, it’s more the psychology of waking up on a couch in someone else’s place. Probably because I was usually deathly hungover when I did….
I'm kind of a dick.
Couches mean you have at least made it home somewhere. Waking up in the bushes or a stairwell is far worse…
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I was at a concert at Montage Mountain about 10 years ago. I got ridiculously drunk, and got kicked out, so I went out to the parking lot, somehow found my friends Jeep, and tried sleeping on the gravel parking lot next to it. People were kicking stones on me, so at some point, I crawled on top of her Jeep Cherokee and slept on her roof. That’s where they found me, sleeping on a ski rack on top of a Jeep Cherokee…..oh to be 21 again….
I'm kind of a dick.
I think one of the strangest wake ups I’ve had was when I went to bed in my own bed (I know this because my phone was plugged in next to my bed) and woke up in my room mates bed who was staying at his girlfriend’s place… My first thought was “Who the hell put all this Steelers shit up in my room?”
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Worst wake up story
Was waking up outside the 5th Street Pub in Lansdale (this was like 1988) after a night of severe overdrinking. I suspect the folks i was with left me there. The Landsale cops woke me up around sunrise, cuffed me and loaded me into their cruiser. I blew about .21, IIRC. I remember asking them to drop me at my apartment which was right on the way to the cop shop. Oddly, they didn’t. 8 hours later they let me out of the cell and sent me on my way. After I paid ’em $100.
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 25, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
No worries, I know you really hate me and just wanted to get my hopes up so you could smash them like so many broken dreams. Jerk. :-/
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Seriously, no worries. I understand what you mean, but still appreciate the generosity nonetheless.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I’m just really freakin’ stoked that the apartment is only 10 minutes from the rink!
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Kind of. I’m still working in Lanc Lanc so during the week I’m at my parents place still but I plan to get a job in the Philly area to relocate full time.
Also I will never call it Conshy. I like to refer to it as the Hock.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
BTW, Scott Howson is starting to make Bob Clarke v. 1.0 (1984-1990) look like a good GM. That’s-a no good.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 24, 2012 9:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
That Bob Clarke would have won 2 Stanley Cups if we didn’t run into the Hall of Fame Oilers Team in the finals in both 85 and 87. And who knows what happens if Lindbergh does get behind the wheel of that car.
Nodl 12G 127GP, Talbot 10G 44GP
Keith Allen built those teams. Clarke made a good trade or two but made more bad ones, drafted horribly, and ran the Flyers into the ground. He was much better the second time around.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 24, 2012 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If I remember correctly he did a decent job in his short stints in Minnesota and Florida.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Florida in particular is where he learned how to be a decent GM.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Didn’t he start from scratch there? That would be a fun challenge.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I actually defended Howson as recently as a month ago. That’s not going to happen again.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I remember that convo….started with how many trades does howson or something right?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 12:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
win*
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You said when has he not been fleeced. That was easy to show. The better question is: When’s he going to stop being bad at his job?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
when columb-ians(?) show up at his door with torches
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
Breaking news! JVR’s name is coming up in trade rumors! This has never happened before!
I should note that I’ve been more or less trolling Miller’s articles on Yahoo for quite some time because his “rumors” are always either just stating obvious facts (i.e. not rumors) or very, very late. And he never proofreads. It’s never things that a spellchecker would find, but there are always typos. He’s one of the most worthless writers Yahoo has, and that’s saying something.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
“seen goals in 11 games” is pretty good I think.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Check the whole sentence:
The guy put in seen goals in 11 games during last year’s playoffs
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Ha, I didn’t even realize that it made a bit of sense the way I quoted it.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, I didn’t realize you were joking. :-p
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yup, guess I forgot the sarcasm font. Might have to steal flyersfaninchicago’s signature line.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I still shun the sarcasm font unless I feel it’s really necessary to be clear or, as below, when using it for it’s original intended puspose.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I totally thought you were making some kinda of HTML joke down there.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
JvR's Awesome!
He's seen a goal in 11 games!! Super!
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 25, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I just love that his “Scoop of the Day,” is a summary of an article written by somebody else…
NEWSFLASH: Summarizing another article is NOT a NEWSFLASH!
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
And asking a guy who just wrecked his car and is being taken away in an ambulance for an autograph???? People are such fucking douchebags.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Hey, could somebody give me a quick tip...
…on how to do links in signatures. So that it doesn’t show up like mine is right now. Thanks.
If hockey gets me aroused, then I don't want to be right.
I live at "Broad Street Hockey.":http://www.broadstreethockey.com
I imagine you just write out the html code. If you don’t know how to do that, you can use the tools in the comment box here and the preview button to get what you want, and then copy the contents of the comment box (which will have the html code you need) and paste it as your signature. But it will look something like:
<a href="http://insert.url.here" >text of link</a>
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Ah ha! Got it. The formatting-guide method doesn’t work in signatures. You have to use HTML, the way you suggested…
Thanks for the help!
If hockey gets me aroused, then I don't want to be right.
I live at Broad Street Hockey.
by Henry al-Sirat on Feb 24, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Steve Ott anyone? link
•TSN reports that Vancouver, Toronto, and Philadelphia are pursuing versatile Stars F Steve Ott. There’s speculation that Flyers F James van Riemsdyk could be part of a Dallas-Philadelphia deal for Ott.
No! That would give me 5 offensive Flyers in my fantasy league.
I do like Ott as a player though, I think he’s what this team is lacking.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I thought a ‘clear the porch’ defensman is what ailed us
/s
by Boundforbeach on Feb 24, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Why do we need to give away JVR?
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Has JVR’s value dropped all the way to Steve Ott??
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I’d imagine the Flyers would be getting Ott and a pick
but straight up? no thanks
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t buy this at all. Paul Holmgren doesn’t trade top-9 players in-season except for Upshall. He said that was for cap reasons (it wasn’t), but that’s the only time he’s traded a player of significance in the last three years.
JVR is not being traded at the deadline.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
JVR is not being traded at the deadline.
I will never want JVR to be moved more than I do after reading that. Haha. C’mon Homer! Take Geoff down a peg!
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
There are plenty of opportunities to take me down a peg.
Plus, if he was going to be moved, it would have been for a defenseman. Why would you trade him for a forward and a draft pick?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I’m just saying I would find it hilarious and JVR isn’t exactly one of my favorites so I wouldn’t be angry at it depending on who we got in return.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Me neither. But Ott + anything else in that organization is not enough.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I’d take Eriksson haha.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
True. Oversight on my part.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 1:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I would be thrilled to send them Bryz for Lehtonen.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Jamie Benn says Hello
Good player, too. Erickson and him are interesting. But this rumor is crap, JvR for Ott?? yeah, right….
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 25, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind JVR being traded either. That contract extension is proving to be a horrible idea (who could have predicted that?) and I’d love to get rid of it before it kicks in. Which is why I would have made a JVR for Schenn trade.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
We got shutout by Edmonton. I think he’d do it as a wake up call.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Not JvR though. I agree with this idea (that Homer would make a wake-up call trade), but not for a player like JvR. Maybe someone like Carle (who might’ve been on the way out already).
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
He said that was for cap reasons (it wasn’t)
I thought he was going to be a free agent and we figured that the team wouldn’t be able to re-sign him? Why did they trade him?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
That might be it. I have always been under the assumption that they needed the (~$100k) cap space to bring Briere off LTIR and keep Giroux on the roster after waiving Metropolit and Vaananen.
Otherwise, I don’t see why the 2nd round pick was added.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
That would be the box score from Upshall’s last game as a Flyer. Scroll down and look at the skaters. I also remember the media being all happy, saying “Finally this team is healthy! Let’s see what they can do!” One day later, Upshall was gone.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
This is from Travis’ post on the story:
We’ve heard that this deal solidifies Giroux’s spot on the NHL roster. Now, there’s extra cap space and he won’t have to worry if there’s an injury on defense. Those who spread that opinion forget that Arron Asham can be sent down to make cap room as necessary. This past weekend was an odd situation and there is no reason, with or without the extra space the Carcillo trade brings, that Giroux should be sent down.
There’s also the whole “He was in the Old City Gang, break that shit up” explanation.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 25, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I’d imagine the Stars would get JVR and Shelley. Since Ott can drop ’em, it makes Girlyname that much more obsolete.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
HE'S SLIPPED TO 8TH IN FO %, NO WAY!!!!
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 24, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
I am not against the idea of trading JvR.
I am against the idea of acquiring Steve Ott.
I’m REALLY against the idea of the swap of Ott for JvR.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Anybody remember when deadline time used to be fun? I forget what that feeling was like, honestly.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions
it’s still fun, just depends on how you look at it
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Can you help me have fun with it again?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
This thing is warped! Why do I always get a warped one?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Hmmm – it’s a wig.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I have fun because I’m ignorant and don’t look closely at numbers
You’re doomed because you know what the numbers tell you and it ain’t pretty
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Not even that, I just can’t stand the price increase on marginal players this time of year. Would anybody trade Andrej Meszaros for Dominic Moore? Would anybody trade Kris Versteeg for Pavel Kubina? Look how Tomas Kaberle’s trade value changed in just 6 months.
It’s ludicrous and it makes me insane.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
It’s like baseball relievers at the deadline. Chad Qualls would cost you a fortune. He’s not that good.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
Exactly!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Teams make moves for the sake of making moves.
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
...
who needs a white whale when you gotta biplane
And now I got an engine,
a big perverted engine,
It runs on strength of will….
Who could deny me the right to fly?
You know, it’s my art -
when I form my body in the shape of a plane…
I’m a plane! (I’m a plane)
Now I got an airframe,
a big perverted airframe.
You know? It’s my art -
when i disguise my body in the shape of a plane…
I’m a plane! (I’m a plane!)from the song Wingwalker by Shellac off of the 1993 EP Uranus, Touch and Go (Records).1st link. Sex Mad by NoMeansNo from the 1986 LP/EP Sex Mad/You Kill Me, Alternative Tentacles (Records).2nd link. Real Love by NoMeansNo from the 1988 LP Small Parts Isolated and Destroyed, Alternative Tentacles.
But what’s changed that makes it no longer fun? Is the irrationality of the market worse now than it was before? Or is it that you’re no longer ignorant of it?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I think it’s the latter.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, I know that Adam Oates trade was bad. Still anticipated what he would do
same with Forseberg
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
For me, it’s more seeing the cost spike from month to month and actually knowing the value of the picks moving back and forth. When Oates was traded, I was upset they got rid of Ouellet, not the other 3 first round picks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m really excited to see how Richards and Carter do out west now. I’m torn between wanting to see them do well, and having to eat crow…
I'm kind of a dick.
Me too, but I will be sad if they win a cup with Philly West.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that would hurt pretty badly.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
NHL Network called LA Philly West on NHL Tonight last night. AWESOME!
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Yup.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Members of the Blue Jackets are rightfully nervous about the trade rumors
You mean nervous that they might have to stay in Columbus? They certainly aren’t nervous that they might be traded
Fixed it for them.
Members of the Blue Jackets are rightfullynervouseager about the trade rumors.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
“Cake or Trade?”
“TRADE!”
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but do you have a flag?
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
I’ll have the penne arraviata.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
This is an interesting pov...
LA gives up Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Jack Johnson, a 1st and a 2nd for Carter and Richards. Not too shabby.
From someone over at Fantasy Hockey Scouts ( a reader not a masthead )
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions
Other perspectives:
Flyers give up Richards and Carter for Simmonds, Schenn, Voracek, Couturier, Cousins, and a 2nd
And:
Columbus gives up Voracek, Couturier, and Cousins for Jack Johnson and a 1st round pick
It’s easy to have two winners when your loser is the Blue Jackets.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
by Snevik on Feb 24, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Columbus gives up Voracek, Couturier, and Cousins for Jack Johnson and a 1st round pick
bahahahahahahahaha
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by hintzy64 on Feb 24, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That’s pretty brutal.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
It’s amazing how many people claim to like the move(s) Columbus made.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he expected to get Couturier at #8. Would we think differently if it was Voracek, Dougie Hamilton, and Cousins for JJ and a 1st? Maybe at least a little.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely. But as I’ve said multiple times, I don’t look at trading draft picks as “how good did that player turn out to be.” This is different from a lot of people. But to me, you trade the 8th pick and you do so not knowing who it’s going to be so you have to find a way to value that pick prior to knowing how good that player will be.
I judge based on the value of the 8th pick at the time it was traded, not on what happens over the next ~15 years.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I judge the trade at the moment of acquisition. The look back and combination stuff is just good fun, and fodder to make fun of Howson.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
haha, exactly. When the guy turns out to be great, that’s funny. But whether the 8th overall pick is Sean Couturier or Nikita Filatov, that’s a highly valuable asset that was moved. The ability of the Flyers’ scouting and development shouldn’t impact whether Scott Howson made a good trade or not.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, I feel like at the time Howson seemed to be making a decent move on the PHI trade, but this one seems like a big win for LAK.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
At the time, I thought the Flyers made a good trade, with Howson defensibly giving up two high value assets. I don’t like the trade from CBJ’s perspective, but I can take into account team needs, fan pressure, ownership pressure, and others to understand why he made the trade.
This one… you can’t even rationalize why you go out and acquire another offensive defenseman, let alone why it’s Jack Johnson.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the outcome doesn’t deride the mindset which is maximizing cost controlled talent. The argument that prospects are unknowns is half baked because it fails to recognize that there is little in the way of loss for a pick that doesn’t pan out. So either you get nothing or something but they don’t really take away anything which think is kinda crucial when you factor in the constraints of a hard cap.
I agree with you here – but I think it’s a little different here because the trade was made just a couple of days before the draft. If you trade a pick like the LA Kings did where there’s a lot of uncertainty about where the pick might end up and who it might be used on, then yes I agree that it’s pointless to evaluate how good the player picked with that draft pick was. But at #8 in a draft that’s happening two days from now, the Jackets potentially could’ve guessed that there was a chance that Couturier would be on the board. And if not Couturier, there would probably be a chance to pick a guy like Zibanejad, Strome or Dougie Hamilton (who are also pretty good players with huge potential at the moment).
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Dougie Hamilton was a really damn good prospect, was he not?
It’s true no one expected Couturier to fall to #8, and I agree with the idea that the fact that Couturier DID fall that far isn’t making things any easier in retrospect for the Jackets. But I don’t know if it’d be THAT different. At #8 you’re almost certainly going to get a high-profile guy.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 24, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I was trying to make the case that originally Howson knew exactly what he was getting from the Flyers. Laughing at him now because that pick turned into Couturier is a bit of an unfair way to judge the original trade, as Geoff said.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Dougie’s still a scary prospect and I hate that the Bruins have him. I’d still take Coots over him 99 times out of 100 at #8 in the draft (go for BPA, not position), but I don’t think it makes that much of a difference.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
How much better does this trade make them? Second or third best in the West?
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It absolutely makes them better, getting their most-frequently scored-on defender off the team and acquiring a 30 goal scorer, but I don’t see them as even a top-4 team in the West today. Detroit, St. Louis, San Jose, Vancouver are still ahead of them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Forgot about San Jose. I think Vancouver is where I was having the debate.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Nashville and St Louis may also be better than LA still.
/Glad the Flyguys are in the East. The East has great teams at the top, but it’s top-heavy
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and chicago isnt going anywhere.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, goofed on “St Louis” (mentioned in Geoff’s post) vs. “Chicago”
But I think we all agree. LA is better…but the competition is stiff. They still may not make the playoffs.
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yeh I think Carter is a good addition, but I dont think he makes enough difference as far making the Kings as a top-tier team.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think his addition plus the loss of JJ does, but it’s a crowded top-tier with Pittsburgh, Boston, Vancouver, San Jose, Detroit, St. Louis, and Chicago there already, with possibly NYR and Philadelphia there as well.
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by red army line on Feb 25, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
you give us(flyers) way too much credit good sir
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poor Blue Jackets fans.
if Columbus had discovered the Blue Jackets when he landed he would have never come back.
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by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Unsurprisingly, Jack Campbell has it all bass-ackwards. He thinks Howson did a great job.
Oh, wait, it’s KEN Campbell – my bad.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
But a comment on Jackets Cannon says…
I think the Jackets got better value for him than the Flyers did. Jake was never going to fulfill his promise here, but Johnson instantly makes the Jackets’ blueline corps very solid.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Newsies
Is on Showtime. This movie is so bad it’s good again.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
HAHAHAHAHA Oh Christian Bale before he became a BAMF
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by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
And the dude from Doogie Howser who isn’t Neil Patrick Harris.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
I thoroughly enjoyed that as a kid. I haven’t seen it in a good 12 years or so, I might think differently now I suppose.
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Oh, yeah—it’s definitely not what I would call “good”. Entertaining nonetheless.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
I tend to watch movies and ask “Was that a waste of 2 hours” if not it was enjoyable. Enjoyable is entirely different than good. Hence my long list of guilty pleasures.
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by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Is anybody else just the opposite of productive today? I feel like I mailed in my Friday when I got out of bed.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM EST reply actions
I’ve done absolutely nothing today… Though I feel like that’s because I started partaking in this website during work hours.
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by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
my thoughts exactly.. except around a year ago.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
It’s been bad. Major deadlines… and I spend half the day reading/posting comments.
Lot’s of working at night during games now because of it…
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by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think I have the attention span of a gnat… yesterday I found myself looking for small towns in upper Canada. And then wondering what you do if you live in an isolated town with about 1000 people…
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by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
That actually sounds like a lot of fun.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
and very normal, to me. maybe it’s the curiosity of a gnat, not the attention span. that sounds better. sort of.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 24, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
yeah lets go with curiosity. Wikipedia is a dangerous dangerous website
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by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not really working on things that are high priority but I’m getting them done and done pretty well I must say. I do like what I’m working on now though which is why I’m not taking the most high priority job.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Samsies here. Although part of that is waiting for bad news from my husband. His grandmother is terminally ill and just took a turn for the worse so he’s making his “last visit” so to speak. Not a fun start to the weekend. My son and I might have to hit Happy Hour (no booze for him, obviously).
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
I’m very sorry to hear that. Thoughts go out to you and your husband.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 24, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks. She’s been sick for a long, long time—she’s had epilepsy since she was 16—so she’s always been on really heavy drugs. The cancer just came to light about a month or so ago (there was nothing they could do) and the drugs don’t interact well. She doesn’t even recognize anyone at this point. Just sad. Getting old sucks, folks. But I’ll take getting old over dying young any day of the week.
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That’s rough, sorry to hear about that. :-/
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I started with a dentist appointment and my productivity has dropped since then, so …
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Today is an off Friday for me (I get alternating Fridays off). Surprisingly, I have been productive, taking my car in for maintenance and detailing.
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by The Dark on Feb 24, 2012 5:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well judging from what i've learned here about Jack Johnson, this would not have gone over too well..
One NHL GM we spoke to Friday morning was stunned the Kings dealt blueliner Jack Johnson. Turns out he’s been in play for quite a while. One source told ESPN.com that the Flyers and Kings talked about a van Riemsdyk for Johnson swap a few weeks ago but it fizzled out.
The Kings are getting lots of interest in captain Dustin Brown. They may not move him in the end but are seeing what’s out there for him. Toronto, Boston, Philadelphia and the New York Rangers are among a long list of teams that have interest in the Team USA Olympian. One source told ESPN.com that the Kings would like to get defenseman Luke Schenn and highly touted forward prospect Matt Frattin from the Leafs in a Brown deal. My sense is that Toronto would find that price too rich, but GM Brian Burke — who had Brown on Team USA in 2010 — really loves Brown.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions
Is it possible that some GMs remember “reputation” rather than “actual production” and “accurate statistics”?
/Ruben Amaro Jr., are you advising NHL GMs now?
//Scott Boras, are you Jack Johnson’s agent?
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meh i like ruben. but i would not have liked a jvr for jack johnson swap.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
and i guess that homer was the one who backed off when he wasnt getting more back than just johnson, at least id hope that was the case
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I really wonder if GMs are are enamored with points as NHL Award Balloters.
There’s no denying Jack Johnson’s offensive talent. The problem is that he’s paid to defend, and he does that very very poorly.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ek has a nice editorial about the power struggle between Dustin Brown and Mike Richards and their respective “camps” and how LAK gave Brown a big “frank you” after acquiring Richie’s biggest fan, Carter.
Any merit to that idea? I support it only with the hope it means we could work a trade with JVR for Brown.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 1:07 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
You want Brown more than JVR? Why?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
So you’d trade them because of $1 million?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
the flyers are never going to waive shelley unfortunately
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I guess waiving Shelley only saves about 600k, because someone still has to take his spot on the roster, but if they are trying to swap players to save money, that’s a good place to start.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
We have to make a meme out of this. Something to do with convenient fixes to problems that will never happen yet everyone suggests.
Not trying to single you out, we cross this bridge a lot here.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Feb 24, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
honestly with how much the flyers are always up against the cap, every bit helps. And isn’t Dustin Brown a bit more proven than JVR?
just curious as to why you’d be opposed since you agreed with the sentiment that it was an overpayment at 4.25 mil a year based on just his potential. Brown has put up good numbers and he’s got what seems like a reasonable contract.
i dont know if i would do it, but i wouldnt be against it if it happened. that’s all.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Dustin Brown is 28 years old and is a 25 goal, 50-60 point guy.
James van Riemsdyk is 22 years old and is a 20 goal, 40-45 point guy.
I don’t trade the younger player who can easily out perform the older guy to save $1 million. I wouldn’t trade Simmonds for Brown straight up, either.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, thought Brown was younger. Do not want, then. Plus, then LA REALLY would be Flyers West.
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
not disagreeing especially if the Flyers are truly going to build with this young core. i didnt realize Brown was quite that old compared to JVR.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. There is certainly an argument to be made for trading JVR for Brown. What gets me upset is the fact that the argument exists.
Without JVR’s extension, there is no argument to trading him for Brown. But there is that extension, so there’s a reasonable case, and that makes me feel sick.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Lock up those players! Long term! Give them NMCs! Then trade them!
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
yeh im with you that 4.25 number is intimidating. i hope he can be worth it. otherwise ive been very against trading him at all. even though that contract is hard to swallow i still err on the side of keeping him.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Locker. Room. Presence.
Besides, if Pronger fought with Richards, and Richards fought with Brown, wouldn’t Pronger and Brown probably work well together next year?
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That’s math, so of course!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
wouldn’t Pronger and Brown probably work well together next year?
Is Brown retiring? Are they going to startup a business?
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(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
by Bud in TN on Feb 24, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
20 goals?
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Last year he had 21 goals in 75 games. This year he has 11 in 39 games (22 in 78 games).
That’s back-to-back 20 goal-pace seasons.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
hmm guess i wasnt paying attention…however i just have a gut feeling jvr doesnt reach 20 this year
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haha, he won’t reach 20 this year. But he’s on pace to. If a guy scores 15 goals in 60 games, do you call him a 20 goal scorer? No, but you do say it’s consistent with his 20 goals per season rate.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Also, isn’t 26-28 peak age for hockey players? I’d live with the 10-15 point differential for now knowing that JVR is 4 years away from hitting his prime.
Point per game is within 90% of the peak from age 21 to 29, with the peak occurring at about 25.
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Better contract, better numbers, more established, big body with a right-hand shot.
by mattsotheran on Feb 24, 2012 1:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I give you better contract and better numbers, but more established is easily offset by “room for improvement”. Big body is a wash, and why does right-hand shot matter?
The only thing I see is the contract, but even that is offset by Brown’s age.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff just curious what's your opinion on Luke Schenn?
you said you would give up JVR for him correct? I’ve been back and forth on it. I’m still not sure about it.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions
Do we need another D Man?
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by PyropenguinX on Feb 24, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
yes. the 2 guys we traded for both UFA i think. and Kubina is not a longterm solution, neither is Grossman by himself. Schenn I think is under contract for little bit and he’s young.
again not sure i do it and Luke Schenn has been up for debate as far as what his career outlook is, but to answer your question we still could use a solid young defenseman, sooner than later. is luke schenn that guy? i dont know.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I would have before acquiring Grossman/Kubina. I think Schenn has been a third pairing defender so far, but can become at least a second pairing guy. To me, I’m trading a young forward with high potential for a young defenseman with high potential. Factor in the Flyers current roster and recent history drafting/developing players, and I make that trade.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying “make that trade” or “would have made that trade”? I doubt it happens until June at the earliest now.
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Would have made that trade. Might still make it in June.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
“To me, I’m trading a young forward with high potential for a young defenseman with high potential.”
those were my thoughts, except i thought Schenn’s ceiling was higher, wasnt he projected to be a top pairing defenseman initially? I would hope for him to become a solid second pairing guy sooner than later with potential for more.
im still on the fence about it if it were to happen but this is a good point: “Factor in the Flyers current roster and recent history drafting/developing players, and I make that trade.”
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think you have it exactly right: top pairing potential, second pairing soon. I think JVR has the same potential: first line potential, second line soon.
To me, it’s moving two damn near equally skilled, aged, and valuable assets. Toronto needs forwards, Philly needs defensemen. The tipping point, I think, is contract. If Burke required a 4th round pick or a guy like Tyler Brown/Brandon Manning to make the trade, I’d probably do that too.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
agreed with all of that except I’d point out that Burke has it hard for JVR so maybe we can get a pick out of him instead of the other way around.
if it was Schenn +2nd rounder for JVR, not sure I could turn that down.
here’s my issue. looking at it worst case scenario:
1) we keep JVR, and he doesnt live up to potential.
2) we trade JVR for Schenn, JVR lives up potential, but Schenn does not. I’d hate to have to given up on another young guy. I feel like I’d better handle JVR failing than Schenn because at least he was our guy and we stuck by it.
but that’s playing not to lose… and in the end you cant look at it like that.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Philly needs defensemen
See below.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Factor in the Flyers current roster
I don’t see this. The current roster has Hartnell, Simmonds, Jagr, Voracek, Talbot, and Read at wings (excluding JVR). Jagr is UFA; Voracek is RFA. Beyond the current NHL roster there ain’t much in the system as far as wingers go – and certainly no one with the potential JVR has (unrealized or not). So trading away a young promising winger to get another defenseman (when there are seemingly two serviceable ones on the Phantoms roster now in Gus and MAB) doesn’t make any sense to me.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
And that’s fine. I see a top-9 of Hartnell, Giroux, Briere, Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Couturier, and Read for the immediate future. I see a defense corps that has Coburn, Carle, Meszaros, and third pairing guys at best.
It’s possible for us to disagree and not continue to repeat ourselves. You think the forwards corps is weak and the defense prospects are good. I think the defense prospects are bad and the forwards corps is set.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Fair.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
haha, blah blah blah, dogshit burgers.
Or something.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 24, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
That offer still stands.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
But I do ackowledge your right to have your own (however incorrect) opinion :)
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh shit geoffs got jokes…..it has become self aware! THERE’S NO STOPPING IT NOW!!!!!!!
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by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
BTW - from Hockey's Future, just to prove I'm not insane ...
Strengths: After several years of little depth in their organization, Philadelphia made several trades that rejuvenated their pool this summer. With two potential all-stars at center in Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier, the Flyers are very strong down the middle. Additionally, the Flyers have excellent depth on the blue line and a large number of third and fourth line forward prospects on the wing. Weaknesses: Philadelphia is very weak in prospects at the goaltending position. With many young players on the NHL team, there are only the two high end centers among the forwards in the system. Also, there are no high end defensive prospects in the Flyers’ system. Top 5 prospects: 1. Brayden Schenn, C, 2. Sean Couturier, C, 3. Erik Gustafsson, D, 4. Eric Wellwood, LW, 5. Brendan Ranford, LW. Lost to Trade: Stefan Legein.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 27, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well, not only does that say there are no high end defensive prospects, it lists two LWs in the top-5 (JVR’s position) and only one defenseman.
So I’m pretty sure that supports my point, not yours, even if we are still missing the simple fact that I’m looking at the organizational depth and you’re looking at the prospect depth.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 28, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Oh no – I agree that the NHL-level talent is OK for this season. I just don’t agree with your assessment of timeframe in defining ‘foreseeable future’. So I guess you’re right – I’m looking at prospect depth and not organizational depth, because frankly having a stock of 30+ year olds isn’t a sustainable way to run a team (ask the Rangers of a few years ago). And HF saying the team has excellent depth at the blue line was kinda what I was keying on, assuming they were looking at the team as a whole.
I don’t think that there are sufficient wings in the system (as you say), even though two left wings are listed, because you have to have 8 on the NHL and 8 on the AHL squad at any given time at a minimum. You only need 6 and 6 defensemen. That’s a 4:3 ratio; so there should be 4 wingers for every three defensemen in the system. And Ranford is a D prospect … but we’re splitting hairs I guess. I can refer to the HF list and say there are two NHL-ready defensemen in Gus and MAB, and then another three defensemen with high enough rankings to be viable. You can refer to the same list and point out that Holmstrom is only ranked as a 5.5, but is an A prospect and has ‘proven’ capable at the NHL level, and there are another couple wings ranked higher as well (regardless of how many years out they are from NHL action).
As you said before, it is possible for us to disagree on this and not be directly in conflict. I’d rather hoard wingers, as I think Cobie and Carle and Meszaros are good building blocks for a solid defense. You’d rather get another defenseman to guard against Carle leaving. I wouldn’t be against gaining L. Schenn, but the cost of JVR is too high in my estimation – you would value JVR less. So be it.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 28, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
It really comes down to this:
If you had to promote someone from the current Phantoms roster (or prospect list) to the NHL roster TODAY, who would you feel confident in doing so with, and how high up the depth chart could you place them?
So Gus and MAB are both OK defensemen as either #4 or #6 spots, but what wingers are easily promotable? Wellwood is OK as a third line or fourth line guy … maybe Testwuide or Holmstrom? Who else is there??? I even think Lauridisen has more ‘NHL potential’ than some of the other forwards within reach of the team. That’s where I base my evaluation – on replacement cost, not necessarily on total cost (if that makes sense).
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 28, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
It really comes down to this:
If you had to promote someone from the current Phantoms roster (or prospect list) to the NHL roster TODAY
This is the difference between an organizational depth view and a prospect depth view. He’s not asking “who would I promote today”; he’s asking “how likely am I to need to promote someone, and who would it be”.
Geoff’s point is that they are a lot more likely to need to promote Phantoms at D than at F, because the NHL roster is already stocked with young talent at forward.
In Giroux, Hartnell, Schenn, Voracek, Talbot, Simmonds, van Riemsdyk, Couturier, and Read they have nine top-9 forwards (and arguably eight top-6 forwards) who are under 30 years old. Plus they have Briere and Jagr at least for the time being. The problem hasn’t been depth at forward — it’s been finding enough playing time for all of those young forwards (see: Couturier, Sean).
In contrast, on defense, they have three top-4 forwards who are under 30 years old: Carle, Coburn, and Meszaros, and nobody on the system who looks ready to step in as a top-4 forward any time soon.
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Yup. Thanks for clarifying.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 29, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
No prob. Thanks for not making fun of “on defense, they have three top-4 forwards…and nobody on the system who looks ready to step in as a top-4 forward any time soon”.
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I knew what you meant.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 29, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
at the same time Grossman and Kubina could both be gone as well as Carle, Timmonen is only getting older. So that leaves Mes and Coburn longterm (hopefully Carle too, but still). MAB and Gus are what you said – serviceable, I’m not sure what their ceiling is at this point, but I dont even know if they’re NHL ready.
You could argue the Flyers could use defensemen as much as wingers and I think young defensemen (like Schenn) that have displayed high potential are harder to come by.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
that bit about MAB and Gus not being NHL ready didnt come off right, they’re obviously able to play in the NHL, but I think they could use some more time in the minors before we start relying on them to fill out our D-men every night in the NHL.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
All true points. I guess I still subscribe to the theory that JVR’s role (potential power winger with 20+ goals) is a harder single item to acquire than L.Schenn’s (solid stay-at-home defender with some offense). But heck – I wouldn’t complain TOO loudly if the team acquired Schenn.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
yeh it’s one of those trades that’s fairly even up front, but then years later whichever one turns out better results in people complaining depending on which way it turned out.
i still havent made up my mind whether I actually want Schenn for JVR, but I wouldnt complain if it happened.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Feb 24, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I want to go on the record as saying this “Richards like Carter but Carter loves Richards” thing is bullshit. The man was so upset when his friend was traded the keeping him in the organization was untenable.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
The man was so upset when his friend was traded the keeping him in the organization was untenable
This is revisionist history as written. The Richards trade took place minutes after the Carter trade. There was no time to “be upset” since the trade was obviously already under way. Had you said “once Carter was to be traded, management decided keeping Richards was untenable” that might be OK.
As I’ve written multiple times, I think they were traded as an entry and that corporate governance/politics was influential in the Richards trade.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
And if it makes you feel better, scratch that part. My point was something else entirely.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Understood, and I certainly don’t agree with the viewpoint you are objecting to.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
The Perspective of the Other Team
Coming home from work late last night, and it’s a long drive, I listened to the last period and a half of the Edmonton broadcast on XM last night. Here is their broadcasters’ take. According to them:
(1) First goal was due to a mediocre/bad penalty taken by Kubina
(2) Second goal was a whiff by Bryz
(3) Hartnell’s knee penalty was really bad, the analyst at first said it deserved a “match penalty” and that Hartnell was a “pretender”; eventually he, the play-by-play guy and some guest at intermission all agreed it at least required a major penalty
(4) Edmonton controlled the play for long stretches, especially in the second period
(5) Dubnyk was terrific
(6) However, somewhat counter to 4 and 5, the Flyers blew numerous odd-man rushes, to the point that it amazed the broadcasters
(7) Bryz was very good at the end, but was not really tested much
Not sure what the meaning of this is, perhaps signifying nothing. But clearly they felt, other than the odd man rush misses, that it was more “Edmonton won” than the “Flyers lost”.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Carter will wear #77 for the Kings.
That’s…odd.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 24, 2012 2:32 PM EST reply actions
Maybe they consider him Wayne Simmonds’ replacement. That would of course be a change in job description for Jeff.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Paul Coffey?
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 24, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like the Leafs are looking to add players – they just waived two guys seemingly to clear space …
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by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nhl.com guy just said he hasn’t seen thomas hykas playmaking ability on the gatineau olymics since giroux was there…..are you fucking kidding me holmgren!?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
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screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
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by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 4:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's ok we got that big bruiser dude instead!
by hebrew hammer on Feb 24, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
ot but for the college people here
A lady is sueing a college for the brain damaged cause to her son from the massive amount of alcohol he consumed due to his drinking binges at partys…..wtf?
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
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by reaper1221 on Feb 24, 2012 5:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
FTFY
A lady is sueing a college for the brain damaged cause to her son from the massive amount ofalcohol he consumedhot air he breathed in during classes.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
After watching those two clips..
I wonder why the KHL isn’t competing with the NHL…
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Well
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Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!
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by Chemistry66 on Feb 24, 2012 9:03 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Devs just traded Palmieri, Foster, 2nd and 3rd for Marek Zidlicky
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions
and Stephane Veillieux
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
That’s 3 players and 2 picks for someone who might struggle to fit in on a pretty stocked Devils defense (Larsson, Volchenkov, Greene, Fayne, Tallinder…Zidlicky)
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Potentially Rick Nash's last game in Columbus
And they are losing 5-0 to Colorado late in the third.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 9:19 PM EST reply actions
One Blue Jacket knew Carter would be traded from day one
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 24, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions
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