Not a dream: Flyers win Saturday night shootout vs. Flames
by Travis Hughes on Feb 26, 2012 12:32 PM EST
in Philadelphia Flyers Game Recaps - 11-12
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PrintFor all the excitement that was the win against the Winnipeg Jets on Thursday night, Saturday's win against the Calgary Flames was even better.
Let's just talk about this real quick: Down 2-0 in the first five-ish minutes of the game, then down 3-0 by the 12 minute mark of the second period, it didn't seem like there was much hope. Ilya Bryzgalov had allowed two really, really, really soft goals, and it was ultra-deflating considering that otherwise, the Flyers had controlled most of the play. A few power plays generated chances and they were basically controlling the play, but found themselves down by three anyway.
It's tough to say exactly what facilitated the blown lead that would come shortly thereafter -- was it that the Flyers kept pressing, or was it that the Flames are apparently awful at holding a lead? I'd like to think it was some mix of the two, but it doesn't matter: Jake Voracek scored with a little more than four minutes left in the second period, and then Braydon Coburn's weird pinball goal in the final minute of the period made it 3-2. Suddenly, it felt like a hockey game again.
The third period was just insane, with the Flyers tying the game on the power play seven minutes in, and then promptly giving that lead right back to Calgary with a penalty shot goal against. ... and then tying the game right back up two minutes later. It was a see-saw that would've been heartbreaking had the Flyers come out of it on the wrong side, and heading into the shootout we probably all thought they would end up on the wrong side of it.
Bryzgalov was utterly huge in the shootout, making certainly his best one-on-one save of the season. He reached for the pokecheck on Alex Tanguay, missed, recovered and stacked the pads. It was then where I actually felt the Flyers could, believe it or not, win the shootout. That they did, thanks to a Matt Read goal to end it. Holy hell, the Flyers won a shootout last night.
It's not like the same problems didn't plague the Flyers last night ... poor goaltending and a number of soft, deflating goals, weak special teams play, etc. But give them credit where it's due for not giving up, and at least they have the offensive firepower to know that they're in any game at any time.
Questions with Answers
- The Flames called up a goon (Desbiens) for the game tonight, because you know, they don't realize it's not 1975 anymore. Anything happen there? Of course nothing happened.
- For the love of Kate Smith, can the Flyers please score the first goal tonight? Nope.
- Bryzgalov was good last time out. More of that? Eh.
- Danny Briere needs a goal. Tonight, right? No, but he took eight shots, five of which hit the net.
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Prediction: This erection will be lasting longer than four hours.
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Took Bryz almost 3/4 of the year to make more than one save in the shootout
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
by Cillo stache on Feb 26, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Made 2 out of 3 in the first game after the all-star break.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 26, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Been in five shootouts this year:
12/19: COL – Bryz 0/3, Flyers 2/3
1/22: BOS – Bryz 0/2, Flyers 1/3
1/31: WIN – Bryz 2/3, Flyers 0/3
2/7: NYI – Bryz 0/2, Flyers 0/2
2/25: CAL – Bryz 4/5, Flyers 2/5
Average Goalie v. Bryz: 67.12% v. 40%
Average Shooter v. Flyers: 32.88% v. 31.25%
They’ve both been below average. It was a small sample size from which Bryz will likely recover, as he’s 62.9% lifetime.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Our first weekend win in over a month!
This is a little nauseating though… 35 Goals Against in our last 7 weekend games
by Clutterbuck4MVP on Feb 26, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions
Hartnell got credit for goals 3 and 4, per NHL
Sex Cannon’s Goal is dead. Long live Sex Cannon’s Goal!
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
so ot but has nebody seen what nasgville supposedly offered for nash?
lindback wilson eliis/blum and a 1st…….if columbus doesnt talk nash into that thats the best deal they will see garunteed
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
Dunno about that. I wouldn’t take any goalie away from Nashville’s coaches and expect the same results. You’re getting, essentially, three unproven prospects and a mid/late 1st.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
yeah but arnt alot of deals unproven prospects..its the risk you take for example…schenn cooter vorachek and simmonds
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
But there’s no reason for Columbus to move Nash unless they find something they want or he asks to be moved publicly. Ellis and Wilson are fairly high ranked, but neither had as much buzz as Schenn, and whereas Voracek and Simmonds had track records of success in some role (Jake more than Wayne). And CLB’s 1st was a better piece than NSH’s 1st.
I just don’t think any of those pieces could be the center of the trade for Nash. They are all useful, but when you think about Richards fetching Schenn and Carter fetching Voracek+1st and then Jack Johnson, I don’t think Nashville has offered an attractive enough package for a better player.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Particularly considering the marketing bonuses of Nash-ville
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 26, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
also did any1 see this video lol
here coach, you forgot 1 around the 1:30 mark
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
I’ll admit I bailed after it was 3-0. Unbelievable comeback win but same old problems. The defense on the second goal really pissed me off. I thought they were going to back up all the way into the stands. Well, as long as we can put up 4-5+ goals a game, we should be ok.
The Legion of Doom would still kick butt today!
All aboard the Wayne-train!
"These cows are small, those cows are far away."
My first COTN of the season!
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Hey, guess what?
I predicted that the Flyers would win not one, but TWO shootouts the rest of the way. One down, one to go!
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Towards the end of the article:
The [Flyers’ projected] record of 45-29-8 is based on the Flyers’ .339 win percentage in shootouts. (They’re 20-39 all time.) So yes, I’m saying that the Flyers will go to two more shootouts this year and win them.
Booyeah!
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Best (overheard) assessment: the Flyers are a team forced to outscore their own goalies. But if there were ever a game to backstop Bryz’s confidence, this would be it.
Kept hearing the Calgary crew say that — “outscoring their goalies”. Never heard that before, and they’re right. It can be difficult and is no way to get through the playoffs. And we all hope the shootout (and latter half of the game) last night can boost Bryz’s confidence and that of his teammates in him.
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 26, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
What is the hockey equivalent of cuckolding?
Because I can’t stop looking for these pictures.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
They look so happy!
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 26, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Now they will get to drunk come in the next day and not show up for the game.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Feb 26, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Tron anyone?
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 26, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Now I’m scared.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 26, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
ah
now let us not forget
The New Tron Hotties,
in 2-D(isney): the feralbadass (captain press hussy & coke whore) and the villain’s trendy tattoo ( empty netter)/these links are loaded with iron…ore.
/playing with stereotypes – be they with gender or with sports figures. And DIsney, no one stereotypes better.
strike a stripper pose
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Beau Garrett as Gem in DISNEY’S Tron Legacy.
LIght Cycle as Itself in DISNEY’S Tron Legacy.SoundIn order of appearance.Confessor, Blueprint Soul . From the LP Unraveled, 2005. Season Of Mist. Yet another gem from Richmond, Va. Unique doom metal. Total metal snob stuff here.
Pissed Jeans, She is Science Fiction. From the LP King of Jeans, 2009. Sub Pop. Yes, they belong to us, straight outta Allentown. And seriously as far as band names go…it’s so good I’m jealous. SUPPORT LOCAL MUSIC.
John Spencer Blues Explosion, Soul Typecast. From the 1993 LP Extra Width. Matador. He’s white boy awesome.
The Gits, Second Skin. From the 1991 EP Second Skin, Broken Rekids. A little known punk gem from Seattle who gained nationwide attention when the tragic case of the rape and murder of Mia Zapata, the band’s singer, aired on Unsolved Mysteries. The killer has since been caught and imprisoned.
Slint, Good Morning, Captain. From the 1991 LP Spiderland. Back in the day, we dubbed this as the indie girl panty dropper. Southern Gothic Art-core (my term, think it best describes the sound) isn’t everyone’s bag but to simply dismiss it as emo (such a wrongly applied term when you know it’s origin was the ’80’s DC hardcore band Dag Nasty mocking themselves) – consider spending more time underground.
Etta James, What You Want Me To Do (Jimmy Reed ). From the 1964 LP Etta James Rocks the House, Chess. James could bring it like it a fucking freight train.
Smithereens, The Blues Before and After. From the 1989 LP 11, Enigma/Capitol. New Jersey’s own. A rock solid, under appreciated band who’s lead singer kinda looks like Jon Stevens. And the song title aptly applies to the drug in question.
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Dag Nasty, Simple Minds. From the 1987 LP Wig Out At Denko’s, Dischord. What people fail to do is put DC hardcore in the proper context. Emo-core, as it’s practitioners self-mockingly called it, was more about recognition of economic status and race-white suburban kids playing music for white suburban audiences. In a town like DC where you’re constantly bombarded by politics, a lot of punks chose a different polemic, one that looked inwards. They wrote music about what they knew. KRS – 1, Underground. From the 2003 LP Kristyles, Koch. The Teacher. Enough said.
Yeah or the Ducks new unis. I call those the Kenneth Noland's. I prolly mentioned it before but here's an
IMPROMPTU ART HISTORY LESSON.
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Bridge, 1964.
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I’m pretty sure Chris Neil murdered Boychuk yesterday….
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/fight-video-senators-chris-neil-hands-zdeno-chara-032458496.html;ylt=AtMGRmRKRiPhjd2SLqM5F97vLYF
Holy shit, that looks nasty in real-time….
I'm kind of a dick.
Watching the CBJ/Pitt game…had to switch over to the Pitt feed to listen to them whine about a disallowed goal. Their announcers are unbelievably bad.
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Homer isn’t a strong enough description for them.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
by doubleh on Feb 26, 2012 3:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Jersey lost and is one point behind us. Pittsburgh won and is two ahead, while having played one more game. #suckforsixth
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 26, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions
Rooting interests for the rest of the day: NYI over Ottawa (don’t want to fall to 7th at any point); Florida over Montreal (don’t want the ‘Pegs to win that division); San Jose over Minnesota (because it’s funny); Anaheim over Chicago (because fuck Chicago).
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I support these sentiments.
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Feb 26, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Because fuck Chicago should be a bumper sticker. But I might start with a Boston edition first.
A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.
by doubleh on Feb 26, 2012 4:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
“because fuck Chicago” just made me think of “BECAUSE F**K YOU”.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 26, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Is @OskarstheBart the real Oskars? Its too funny to care if it isn’t, but I really hope it is
Following Dan Carcillo where ever he may go
Read, Rinaldo and Sestito Flyercrushes until his return
I have a question. On Stajan’s goal when I saw it initially I really want to blame Mez for backing off too much and letting the shot get away clean. Upon watching the highlights I saw it was actually a 3 on 2 and Mez was allowing for the pass. I also saw JVR trailing the play but not skating hard. I can’t lay all the blame at JVR’s feet on that situation, but it looked like he could have gotten to Stajan and maybe lifted his stick? Am I seeing that right?
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Feb 26, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions
I looked at it again, and while I see your point that JVR’s not exactly busting’ it to get back, it does appear that Stajan sees him out of the corner of his eye, which accounts for his lateral movement. He then waits for everything to align so that Mez is screening Bryz, before he takes the shot. What I’d like to see is Mez recognize the developing situation, realize he’s not manned-up on anyone, and skate out to block the shot. I think he realized that he screened Bryz, and that’s why he looked heavenward, not because he was frustrated by another softie.
Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it.
by Jody_Shelley's_Frankenstein on Feb 26, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Never mind, you’re right, there was another Flame on Stajan’s wing, even with his lateral movement. I guess there’s nobody skating to really lay the blame on. You just have to pray that Bryz sees it.
Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it.
by Jody_Shelley's_Frankenstein on Feb 26, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
You have to wonder if Mez saw JVR coming and shifted a little more towards playing the pass… and then JVR didn’t get there. Perhaps he would have played it a bit differently if he didn’t think the backcheck was coming. Hence the gesture of frustration.
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Feb 26, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
So apparently the latest Flyers trade rumors involve Ondrej Pavelec? I don’t even know what to think about that.
Source? And for who?
COTN—rather…creepy? no not the right word..Whats the word im thinkin of..
by Gonzotatcics on Feb 26, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I also saw read something similar while perusing the rumor mill this evening. Not putting any stock into it, but we’ll see what happens tomorrow. I get the feeling the Flyers will make another move before the deadline.
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi120226.html
According to the source, the Flyers are willing to package Bobrovsky as part of a deal that could include left wing James van Riemsdyk, depending on the goalie.
The Flyers are believed to be eyeing Nikolai Khabibulin of the Edmonton Oilers, Jean-Sebastien Giguere of the Colorado Avalanche and Ondrej Pavelec of the Winnipeg Jets.
Sarauj, Latvija!
nonononononononono
Suck it, Phaneuf
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's just that yours is stupid.
No way in hell would I do any deal involving both Bob and JVR. At all.
Bob for Pavelec I would do. Bulin wall? No thank you. That would require both Bob and JVR.
Bob for Giguere? Maybe, if only because Giggy is doing so well this year. Plus it could be a one-for-one swap.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I would actually do Bob for Pavelec straight up.
Bob is likely going to be gone at some point soon anyway (if not tomorrow then next year), and Pavelec is a free agent after this year. He likely wouldn’t stay because he wants a chance to start somewhere, which he wouldn’t be able to do behind Bryzgalov… unless Bryzgalov wants to leave or is brought out, cap-free. Then you re-sign Pavelec and have someone affordable behind him.
Assuming that’s not the case, and Pavelec leaves after this year, you have Bob’s $1,750,000 cap hit to play with in the off-season (Pavelec makes $1,150,000).
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
The only one of these combos I would ever consider is Bob for Pavelec straight up.
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This. The only reason I’d consider Giguere is because of how well he’s playing this year, plus he’ll be a slightly cheaper backup next year (after which his contract runs out).
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Winnipeg would obviously not trade a better, proven, somewhat veteran goalie at a lower salary for Bob, so the straight up 1 for 1 thing is definitely not happening, and adding JVR to that is a lot to give up. AND if we trade for Pavelec we can kiss any dreams of Bryz regaining his confidence goodbye so this whole rumor sounds like a load of bullpoop to me.
according to hockeybuzz(i know) the flyers offered jvr bob and coburn for nash but refuse to give up their first or schenn/cooter
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
would that even clear up the neccessary cap space? seeing as jvr’s deal doesnt start until next year
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
It would be close.
If the Flyers trade those three, they would have $7,675,398 in cap space. That’s those three players’ current salaries plus the maximum cap hit they can absorb ($1,071,232 as of today, per CapGeek).
The problem is that Nash has a hit of $7,800,000, so the Flyers would have to lose $125,000 somewhere. Maybe Columbus could pay that amount (or something larger) as part of the deal.
Problem is that you would have no backup goalie, and Coburn’s spot in the lineup would be replaced by Andreas Lilja.
Do. Not. Want.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
exactly…but just for sake of devs advocate would that be a good deal for columbus..they get a 22 year old who may turn into the next leclair(prob not in my opinion) they get a young d man with a long contract and they get a goaltender with lateral movement like no other and oodles of potential with great attitude and a passion for learning
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
That would be a great deal for Columbus and a horrible deal for the Flyers.
JVR has followed a similar developmental trajectory to LeClair (played in college, didn’t play much in the AHL, first played in the NHL at age 20) so the comparison is not wholly unwarranted. I don’t know if JVR will turn into the 50-goal-scorer that Johnny was, but I don’t see why he can’t consistently be around 35 per year. I hope he sticks around here long enough for us to find out.
LeClair’s numbers at 23 and 24 years old were similar to JVR’s at 20 and 21; LeClair broke out at 25 and JVR was poised to do so at 22 before his injuries this year. So JVR might not be as big a scorer as Johnny, but he may be developmentally ahead so it’s hard to tell.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
That deal stinks out loud. I can actually hear the stink coming from it.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
Agreed x 10. If we make that trade, or anything resembling it even slightly, I will drive out to jersey tonight and shit on Homer’s car
by Clutterbuck4MVP on Feb 26, 2012 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So guy I follow on twitter (who reads here occasionally) started talking about what he would do if he was GM. Said he’d trade Briere, Read, and Bob for Nash, then trade JvR for Jack Johnson and a 1st. Anyone see any problems with that?
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
briere no trade clause not enough cap room…..if its columbus’ 1st i would do that for jvr straight up with this draft class…if its detroits nah cause jj blows and again his cap hit is huge
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
1. We have no backup goalie if Bob goes.
2. That deal for Nash is stupid regardless.
3. That deal for Jack Johnson is even dumber. We don’t need offensive defensemen.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Exactly what I posted back, along with:
4. You now need two more forwards, so more rookies need to play a bigger role.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Feb 26, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think our defense is set, it looks good to me. Goaltending needs to improve, but I don’t think a trade is the answer. Honestly, at this point if we were to make any sort of move it would probably be a Versteeg-like deal, for scoring depth.
Suck it, Phaneuf
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's just that yours is stupid.
If the Flyers make a deal tomorrow, I want it to be for a defensive forward and not for a scorer. We don’t need another scorer. We need someone to backcheck.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
darrel powe mike richards jeff carter....
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
screw the subjective notion of 'fair'
Embrace true equality in treatment in all aspects, not just ones that benefit you or your cause
Powe was a beast on the PK. I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Flyers acquire Rick Nash for Steve Nash, Kevin Nash, John Forbes Nash, Nash Bridges, and Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young #NHLTradeDeadline
and Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young. And a 4th
by DannyMcG on Feb 27, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn’t mind Don Johnson on the team.
And all I've done for want of wit, To mem'ry now I can't recall.
So fill to me the parting glass, Good night and joy be with you all.
by PyropenguinX on Feb 27, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
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