Friday Morning Fly By: The Canadian Super Bowl Ad Will Give You Chills
by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 6:00 AM EST
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Recaps of last night's win: [BSH] [On the Forecheck] [CSNPhilly] [delcotimes.com] [Daily News] [Inquirer] [Flyers Faithful] [the700level] [The Hockey Guys] [The Checking Line]
- Wayne Simmonds is having a career year. This applies to a lot of players this year: [CSNPhilly]
- Scott Hartnell enjoyed spending a day with the Predators trainer, a guy many players love: [TheTennessean]
- Jaromir Jagr gave a quick interview in the Czech Republic, translated here: [Flyers Faithful]
- John LeClair, Derian Hatcher, and Keith Primeau took in a skate: [the700level]
- Great, great commercial from Budweiser that will run in Canada during the Super Bowl: [SBNation.com] [Puck Daddy]
- Making sense of the Kevin Marshall trade: [PostStar]
- The Phantoms are looking for a good start out of the break: [PostStar]
- An interview with Tim McManus: [Flyers Faithful]
- Hey, curling in Aston, previous home of BSH Open Ice games: [delcotimes.com]
- Ryan Suter isn't talking about the rumors of him coming to Philly: [delcotimes.com]
- Jeff Carter is officially on the trade block: [SBNation.com]
- In case you missed it, the Kings got a break from the scoreboard pausing with 1.5 seconds left, which allowed them to score. The hilarious reactions from Dean Lombardi, Scott Howson and Gary Bettman: [SBNation.com] [Puck Daddy] [NHL.com] [Backhand Shelf] [Deadspin]
- Why the Islanders will never work in Brooklyn: [SI.com]
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From that Jagr interview - very interesting snippet
I think that we have a very good bunch of guys, probably one of the best I’ve played with. The CBA agreement between NHL and NHLPA will come to an end and it’s not certain if the league will continue or not but I hope that it will. That’s why it’s too early to speak about my contract extension. There will be new rules for signing and there’s no hurry then.
Now, I’m not sure, but didn’t DragonGirl say that the current CBA expires in September and therefore this offseason’s free agency will be under the rules of the current CBA? In that case, will any new rules for signing affect the Flyers’ negotiations with Jagr? I do agree that it is too early to work out Jagr’s extension, but it seems very odd that the two parties must have discussed the new CBA and considered that a suitable reason to delay negotiations. Obviously they know what’s going on behind the scenes better than we do…
But if the new CBA is going to make a big difference in some way (removal of LTIR exemption? cap-free buyouts? something completely different?) why then did the Flyers opt to re-sign Coburn?
I’m just very confused as to what potential change they might be referring to here.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 3, 2012 6:45 AM EST reply actions
What drives Jagr?
Maybe it’s because I am old — but the reflections he shared in the Czech interview hit home. Sure, he winks and says the kids make him feel young. But he also credits this group as being one of the best in his personal history. So my takeaway is very optimistic: if JJ can push, prod and poke the kids to pay attention and amp their games, why can’t we make the finals? And when we do, everyone can look back and credit Jagr’s motivating influence.
by Lesion of Doom on Feb 3, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Free agency does start July 1st, so nothing should prevent them from signing a UFA. The thing is, whenever the new contract goes into effect, there will probably be some period of time where teams need to make adjustments to become compliant to the new rules.
If you have a UFA who legitimately doesn’t want to go anywhere, both sides can wait it out in good faith and watch how negotiations go rather than sign a contract and have to make that contract compliant later. For example, if Jagr signs on July 1st, he’d be affected if the whole league takes a salary rollback like last time. If he signs after the rollback takes place for everybody else, his contract wouldn’t get rolled back.
If the Flyers had opted not to re-sign Coburn and let him go UFA and wait out the agreement, there’s no guarantee that he wouldn’t get an offer from another team. Big difference between the two guys being asked to wait it out in good faith and not sign a contract somewhere else; when one is up for his big UFA payday and the other has already had a long successful career.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 3, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I should add that I see us as one of the teams who will have the most trouble becoming compliant with the new CBA, depending on what actually changes (although having contributors who are on ELCs right now is going to help us next year). I think maybe we’ve become desensitized to it because we’re always up against the cap; but over the past year, maybe year and a half, I feel that I’ve been watching us get pressed more and more firmly against the wall. I want to be optimistic, but I have to take it one day at a time and see what decisions Homer makes between now and the end of this agreement.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ok admit it. You have a team of people working for you in the Philippines. They all have your SBN login and you pay them $1 a day to post all this knowledge.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 3, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, why didn’t I think of that? That would’ve been so much easier than writing all that software to automatically answer these questions for me…
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 3, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Sell your software to the Flyers?
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 4, 2012 6:04 AM EST up reply actions
But then I’d have to take the time to re-write the algorithms to make sure they don’t accidentally insult the front office or anything… That would take a while.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 4, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for that. That makes a lot of sense. And seeing as Voracek is RFA I guess it’s a potential possibility that we qualify him but wait for the new CBA to sign him as well. That way Svoboda and Homer can develop the understanding that negotiations for both his clients will occur under the new rules.
I am a little concerned for Jags. Let’s say a lot of other teams that aren’t so close to the cap decide they’ll jump on the UFAs on July 1 and fill out their roster before the new CBA. Then imagine for whatever reason that the Flyers suffer in the new CBA and need to cut back on contracts. If they then go to Jags and say “sorry, we can’t sign you now” then he’ll be left facing a Vokoun-esque salary.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 4, 2012 6:04 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if it matters when Voracek signs, though. I think he has to be tendered an offer early on in the offseason, so it will be known what his salary will be long before the new CBA is worked out. idk. I’d need to be smarter than a Philadelphia lawyer to sort it out.
As for Jagr, I said in a previous post that he may have to come to camp next season on a PTO until we get to Day 2 of the season. Once everyone is on LTIR that need be, then we would have room under the cap for him, with a deal that was worked out in advance. This may be a factor in Voracek’s negotiations too.
I somehow forgot about the details of the salary rollback last time, so, DG, if you’re so willing, please refresh my memory.
i didnt even think of the pto thing…thats genius…we’d have time to bury pronger(if still allowed)
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
I can quote directly from the CBA for this one; from Exhibit 16, which details everything the teams had to do to become compliant:
1. Across-the-Board 24 Percent Salary and Bonus Reductions.
a. Upon execution of this Agreement, all Player Salaries and Bonuses, including without limitation, Signing Bonuses, Performance Bonuses, Roster Bonuses, Reporting Bonuses, minimum compensation guarantees, relocat ion and other payments related to trades, payments in respect of the nonexercise of options, and any market ing and appearance fees, and any and all other payment obligations contained in Players’ SPCs and addenda, including without limitation, payments that may historically have been included in Average League Salary calculat ions, due in every League Year (including any option years), for all SPCs existing prior to the execution of this Agreement, shall be reduced by 24 percent (the “24 percent rollback”). Any potential salary revisions shall be subject to the 24 percent rollback.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 4, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Also
You owe it to yourself to watch that Budweiser commercial. Brought a smile to my face.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 3, 2012 7:00 AM EST reply actions
True. It’s awesome.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 3, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Loved it. players reactions were amazing
trying to clean up Philly Fans image since 1997
by Matan Freedman on Feb 3, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Great ad!
I didn’t expect the confetti shower at the end. That was cool!
by I'dRatherBeInPhilly on Feb 3, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
An extra link
Ten Minute Misconduct on Jeff Carter rumor construction. I found it interesting. The gist of it is blockquoted below, but read the full article for the process:
So, folks, it seems to be a pretty open & shut case, with too much synergy and too many coincidences to ignore. Jeff Carter & Curtis Sanford are going to L.A., in exchange for Jack Johnson and Jonathan Bernier, in a deal that will likely go down after tonight’s game.
See how easy it is? By taking a few "facts" — which are really nothing more than educated guesses by others, mixing them with some true facts and some facially reasonable inferences, we have created an entirely reasonable, trade scenario whose desireability is almost undeniable. The only problem is — I can’t point to a single factual basis to indicate that it is actually going to happen.
That’s how it’s done, and it’s frustrating as hell to keep hearing of this deal and that deal, with anticipation and reality alternately elevating and dashing hopes. Eventually, we all have to stop watching Twitter and get back to work. So twirl this one around in your psyches as the Blue Jackets take on the Kings.
I, for one, would put money on Jeff Carter not being traded this deadline. Not much money, but maybe a little bit.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 3, 2012 7:07 AM EST reply actions
Blockquote fail. Let’s try this again:
See how easy it is? By taking a few “facts” — which are really nothing more than educated guesses by others, mixing them with some true facts and some facially reasonable inferences, we have created an entirely reasonable, trade scenario whose desireability is almost undeniable. The only problem is — I can’t point to a single factual basis to indicate that it is actually going to happen.
That’s how it’s done, and it’s frustrating as hell to keep hearing of this deal and that deal, with anticipation and reality alternately elevating and dashing hopes. Eventually, we all have to stop watching Twitter and get back to work. So twirl this one around in your psyches as the Blue Jackets take on the Kings.
I, for one, would put money on Jeff Carter not being traded this deadline. Not much money, but maybe a little bit.
/that last sentence about the money isn’t from the article, that’s just my addition
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 3, 2012 7:09 AM EST up reply actions
Sam Gagner put up 8 freaking points last night. INSANE!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
And now everyone and their mother is picking him up in Fantasy Hockey Leagues across the country.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I’m not. It was a fluke. I’m just happy I didn’t bring myself to drop Simmer before his 10 shot 2 goal game last night!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 3, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
i traded him for Brent Johnson earlier in the season
I’ve made a huge mistake
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I was in a need goalies at all cost phase
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
plus, this was when he wasnt playing well
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, he’s already up 0.7 percentage points (bringing him to 5.8% ownership) across ESPN leagues. Dumb. It’s a fluke, he’ll never keep that up.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Clearly I was talking about whales.
It’s a fluke, he’ll never keep that up.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
actually this is a fluke
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 3, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
You Suck Bladon
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 3, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
so the Josh Hamilton condemnation begins
Oh Boy!
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 8:17 AM EST reply actions
Are people seriously condemning him? That’s awful. Jeez, the guy’s legitimately trying to stay sober. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to overcome multiple addictions like that.
Just another reason not to read the comments on MSM articles.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 3, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Not comments. This was an article itself by a yahoo writer
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously that’s not the right link :)
But I don’t think I want to read it anyway :(
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 3, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
whoops. Passan’s article, front page
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Breaks my heart. Addiction is still misunderstood so badly. Easier for people to stay on their high horses than to challenge what they think they already know.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 3, 2012 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It’s a shame. He’s seen at a bar and it’s automatically assumed that he’s fallen off the wagon
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
People like to spend their time judging other people rather than cleaning up their own houses. It’s really sad.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
by doubleh on Feb 3, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. I remember when I first heard about him and his history while I was watching the HR derby that year he was a beast, and people were all singing his praises how he overcame it and got his life back on track. I bet these same people are so quick to turn on him and act like he’s done the worst thing ever.
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/2/2/2767379/stop-sopa-campaign-was-a-failure?ref=yahoo
lol
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 8:20 AM EST reply actions
They totally missed the point, it seems.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 3, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Well. I’m not happy about the seizure. It’s not my right to steal things from the internet, but the government is using a hammer to kill an ant. The solutions to online piracy are vast, yet the corporations are focusing on the most intrusive solution.
That’s why I lol’d, because corporations are making their situation worse,
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
this country loves doing that
logical method? Nay
possibly intrusive civil liberty violating method? Yes
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
They did miss the point though. The SOPA protest wasn’t to protect illegal streaming sites. It was to protect usually completely legal sites that allowed user content which could potentially be copyrighted.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 3, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for this. I was going to make this point earlier today but life intruded. The debate about whether a person should be able to use illegal streams if legal streams aren’t reasonably available is off to the side of SOPA. Wikipedia, Google, etc. would not have included firstrowsports as a partner in their protest.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 3, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ruh roh. Looks like I’ll need to send my parents a Slingbox.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
and that’s when they mistakenly put on NCIS Los Angeles
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
I thought about doing that, but I’m not sure they would understand how to use it. I’m not sure I know how to use it.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 3, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
it's not really easy to set up
But if you visit your folks and do it just make sure you designate a separate stand alone cable box somewhere you can plug an ethernet cable directly to the modem. After its set up never mess with it again. Got a sling 3 years ago for Xmas and haven’t messed with since and. NEver miss any programming when we are out of town. It is awesome.
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
by MJDII on Feb 3, 2012 5:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Is it just me or is Marc-Andre Bourdon starting to scare everyone when he is on the ice in his own end. He has been struggling to clear the zone with lots a turnovers and bad passes lately.
Nodl 12G 127GP, Talbot 10G 44GP
I have noticed, but the same goes with half our defense. Sometime it seems that their decision making is a hair off.
-bob
by Rrainone on Feb 3, 2012 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s my biggest fear. I trust Kimmo and Carle. The rest seem suspect, and we have at least 10 million invested in all of them. That’s not good.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
I trust Kimmo, Hot Carle, and Coburn. I trust The Meszaros half the time. Bourdon has definitely been struggling of late. Defensemen have to make good decisions with the puck and do so quickly; this is a skill which takes time to develop. These things take tiiiime… / Mozz
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 3, 2012 9:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Was it Bourdon with the really bad giveaway w/ 2:20 to go in the third? Absolutely horrendous, whoever it was.
Surprisingly, I felt that Lilja played a strong game last night. Having said that, I really hope someone can use stats to blow up my opinion because I don’t want Lilja to play (for us).
I was at the game and my eyes told me Lilja played well.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 3, 2012 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Whoa, and you didn’t come and say hi?
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Was there with a friend whom I hadn’t seen in over a year, and we got there late to begin with. Wasn’t trying to hide or nothing. Will be back on the 16th.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 3, 2012 9:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haha no worries. Half of my hockey team was there so I was all over the place.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I think as a team overall they have been suffering from what is either very slow or completely lack of decision making. By that I mean they get a puck, and have no idea what they can/are going to do with it, almost like they expect time to gather the puck, take a look around, and then make a pass or skate. It’s especially bad in the defensive end some nights, by the D and the forwards as well, and it’s very noticeable against teams with a fast or very aggressive forecheck. Anyone can feel free to tell me I’m wrong, just an eye thing.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
So Simmonds is looking pretty good. I was surprised to hear how many goals he has. I hope he can JVR it up in the offseason and bulk up, and I’d like to see him resigned next year.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Friday Night Magic tonight and I’m DVRing the Heat/Sixers game for later viewing. Let’s do this
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions
Last night, in a fog of sleep deprivation, I had a thought that gave me a giggle. I pondered the outlandish notion of the Kings and Columbus switching Richards for Carter. While it was just for sheer entertainment value in the middle of sleepless night, this morning the idea seems like exactly what either team needs. Thoughts?
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Feb 3, 2012 10:25 AM EST reply actions
stop hitting the Peyote
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
lol Now that’s a reference I haven’t heard in a long time. It brings back memories of “Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers” comic books.
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Feb 3, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Concussions for everybody!
You may have heard, but referee Kelly Sutherland suffered a concussion in the first period of the Sabres game yesterday.
The concussion epidemic has jumped species!
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Contagion.
Maybe the way to intro new helmets is to let the zebras model them first?
by Lesion of Doom on Feb 3, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
He got hit pretty good with the puck. The puck deflected off mike rupps stick and hit him square in the face. He wasn’t wearing a visor either. At first he looked just a tad shooken up but after a while he could barely skate they helped him off the ice.
-bob
by Rrainone on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I feel bad for Carter! I should have told him that his clutchness was to be taken with him and not left in Philly with Hartnell #nottoobright
by sophiejo on Feb 3, 2012 10:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Carter was never clutch though. Didn’t I prove that earlier in the year! :)
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
by MJDII on Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Strange…my eyes tell me that all you proved was that the idea of clutch is something that is subjective and unproveable.
Bob.
by The Dark on Feb 3, 2012 7:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Actually that was Eric and Geoff using my interpretation of clutchness.
Commenter formerly known as M from Pdaddy, but still just Call Me "M"!
DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
Right, they used the definition you supplied and pulled together the stats, since you wouldn’t do it yourself, and found that it measured nothing. It didn’t prove that Carter wasn’t clutch, it proved that your definition of “clutch” was a poor one. :-p
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
If they really did that in the commercial, got a bunch of people together and surprised the two teams, that’s incredibly awesome. For some reason I have trouble convincing myself that it isn’t just a staged game and crowd like any other commercial. Probably because the game footage and camera angles look exactly like any other commercial. But the quotes from the players afterwards are what make it. That had to be incredible for them.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Watching it again, it’s just the way it’s filmed, with the banners being unveiled and the “announcers” and everything. It feels too much like a commercial (duh, because it is) so my brain dismisses it as such instead of being real. But I do believe it is real, I’m not doubting it. I’m just saying if I saw it on TV without reading the article first it might not have caught my attention as something special.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I assumed the announcer voice-over was added after the fact. But I agree, I wouldn’t have given it a second thought if I’d stumbled across it.
@BSH_EricT
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Got my Sixers tix last night. Taking the schmook to his first ever NBA game in a few weeks.
Also, working on an ad for the Flyers Wives carnival, which is pretty sweet.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
“Taking the schmook to the game” sounds like Mafia/gangster-speak for something…
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 3, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How much would you guys bet me to play “Wolves of the Sea” during the tyke mites hockey game at our stadium this weekend?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
How much would you guysbetpay me to play "Wolves of the Sea" during the tyke mites hockey game at our stadium this weekend?
FTFY, beacuse we all know that’s not a bet, you’ll do it without a second thought.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
So the question still stands….
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 3, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
A West Virginia college student is suing a fraternity for negligence, claiming he fell off a deck because a bottle rocket went off in another student’s rectum.
Louis Helmburg III of Marshall University is suing the Alpha Tau Omega Fraternity and fraternity member Travis Hughes, claiming he suffered injuries at a party in 2011 after the allegedly drunken Hughes attempted to fire a bottle rocket from his anus, Courthouse News Service reported Thursday.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 3, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Ah, fraternity days, it was only last year but I do miss thee
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Louis Helmburg III? That name has party-pooper written all over it. Now that poor frat can’t shove explosives up their asses anymore! Way to ruin the fun, jackass!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
back in the day we used to get piss drunk, pour beer and soap down the front steps, and slide down them (there was about 20 some odd steps), while surrounded by our friends and other party goers
then regulations happened, and it was never the same
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I did plenty of dumb things with the guys I lived with junior and senior years, but those were things like taking slap shots with hard boiled eggs off of our balcony into the parking lot, having can-stomping races at 2:00 AM, or having sub-woofer competitions at an equally inhuman hour. But I very rarely drank enough to get drunk much more than a pleasant buzz, so it never got much beyond silly stuff like that.
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so no inserting stuff in orifices?
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Aside from games of “fluffy bunny”, no. Everything else is an out-hole, and that was strictly enforced.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
(And I see that Urban Dictionary does not include an entry for the “fluffy bunny” to which I refer, so don’t bother.)
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marshmellows right?
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that’s the one
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You see this Hintzy?
As previously announced, the ACC will play an 18-game conference schedule beginning in 2012-13.
When Pitt and Syracuse join, each school will have one primary partner (Boston College and Syracuse; Clemson and Georgia Tech; Duke and North Carolina; Florida State and Miami; Maryland and Pitt; NC State and Wake Forest; Virginia and Virginia Tech).
The scheduling model will be based on a three-year cycle during which teams will play every league opponent at least once with the primary partners playing home and away annually while the other 12 rotate in groups of four: one year both home and away; one year at home only; and one year away only. Over the course of the three-year cycle primary partners play a total of six times and all other conference opponents play four times.
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That’s pretty clearly the “two teams that are left over” category, no?
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Actually the campuses aren’t that far apart compared to the rest of the new ACC. I think that was the reason for the pairing.
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"Suck it, Phaneuf"
Yeah, I know they’re fairly close (I lived in Takoma Park, MD for two years). But all of the others (except maybe Clemson/GaTech — I don’t know about them) are actual major rivalries.
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I don’t know if BC and Syracuse really care about each other, or Clemson and GT, but the rest are pre-existing rivalries. However, the existing rivalries are due to geographical proximity, so it still works out the same way.
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Of course, that page lists about 800 rivalries for Big East football teams, so I’m not sure “major rivalry” is a fair description of it (Syracuse-Georgetown would be my go-to choice). But at least there’s a long conference history there. /shrug
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All of the pairings listed there are for geographical reasons, with the exception of Duke/UNC/NCSU, who are all next to each other. In that case, NCSU is the one left over, so they get paired with Wake.
As for MD-Pitt, I honestly don’t mind it, but that’s because my father-in-law is a Pitt alum. But most other people don’t have an in-family connection like that, so many of my MD friends are pretty upset about this on facebook today.
But truthfully, the whole thing just makes me miss the old 9-team ACC more and more. The double round robin format was the best, and it’s gone forever.
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Tell your Maryland friends to suck it up. They haven’t been relevant since that one time that really good guard led them to a title (Jamie something? I want to say Jamie Dixon, but he’s our coach…).
They don’t get to be upset about a perennial top-3 seed in the tournament being their rival.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Juan!
I was close.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s where the conversations have ended up. When our program peaked, and we were a legit threat to Duke, that’s when the matchup was relevant. Since then, it doesn’t matter except for MD fans remembering the good times a decade ago. Duke never cared about us, UNC is the one they hate.
And I absolutely loved Juan Dixon, but I feel it’s a crime to not mention Steve Blake, Lonny Baxter, or Chris Wilcox on that championship team. It was the “perfect storm” of having an incredible point guard, incredible shooting guard, and strong forwards all come together at the same time.
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Only year I ever won a NCAA pool.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
"Suck it, Phaneuf"
Yeah.
We’ve never made it to a Final Four, and we probably aren’t making the tournament this year either, but meh. It’s not like Maryland was given NC State or something ridiculous.
Who, by chance, would they have realistically expected (they had to know Duke v. UNC, Virginia v. Va Tech…)?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
(they had to know Duke v. UNC, Virginia v. Va Tech…)
This is why it’s a “teams left over” category. Maryland’s top rivals don’t consider Maryland a top rival, so they get left out and put with a random nearby team.
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Yup. Which is why I’m asking “who did Maryland fans really expect them to be paired with?”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
They’re just bitter because our new “rival” is a team we’ve only played 3 times, ever. It’s along the same lines as the arguments over the NHL realignment, familiarity breeds contempt. And we’re being told our rival is some team we know nothing about, in place of any of the teams we’ve grown to hate over all these years.
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Ah, okay. That makes sense.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve never made it to a Final Four
Tell me about it. I’ve picked Pitt to go far in brackets several times and you’ve always let me down. I like your coach a lot, so I want you to do well, but it’s never happened. Oh well, now you’re my “rival”, so go to hell!
Incidentally, I also always pick Duke to go out in the 2nd Round or Sweet 16 (I’d love to put them out in the 1st Round, but I know better), and they have often happily obliged when most people have them going further.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Yeah, I’m still bitter about that Scottie Reynolds runner. The defense on that play was astounding awful.
There are plenty of other horrible memories, but since I’m a bandwagon Pitt basketball fan, the others aren’t burned in my memory.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
What? That’s a great memory. /Nova fan’d
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Hey, remember that time your 3-7 team played my 3-7 team? Yeah, me neither.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
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Bite me, Geoff. ;-)
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haha, come on, that was self-deprecating!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 4, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
thats probably more dangerouse than a game of butt rockets
I’ve heard of a few deaths due to the fluffy bunny
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by reaper1221 on Feb 3, 2012 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Travis should’ve never let a guy like that into the party!
by hebrew hammer on Feb 3, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I better make sure my articles are timely and well-written. I’d hate to think Travis might use the anus bottle rocket as a disciplinary technique to keep the writers in line.
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it would be a hell of a spectacle for every1 else to watch…" hi, im Travis Hughes with the department of trolls for the broadstreet hockey blog. flyerrobs continued assualts that were vulgar idiotic politically motivated and at some points borderline racist are in direct violation of sbn code of conduct agreement.in conclusion i have decided flyers robs action have earned him expulsion from the forum…and no less than 4 anus bottle rocket shots
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
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Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
I take issue with that comment. “Borderline” racist?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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i never actually saw what he said so i dont like to throw that term around loosely….was it full on?
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"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Only when people egged him on (which is pretty easy to do)
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
I disagree, there were times when he was egged on, but I thought racist things were generally pretty blatant and unprovoked. Like when he proudly announced his new fantasy team name, for example.
Either way, doesn’t matter. He’s gone.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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ok then 6 anally launched rockets
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Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
travis' video punishment of flyerrob
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
anyone else think this is staged?
look at where he throws it and look at the trajectory of the return.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 3, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
obviously travis is on porch yet in this video
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"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
It could work. It’s tumbling when he throws it, but when it ignites, the thrust will stabilize it and it will stop tumbling, or at least not as rapidly. Unfortunately, it stopped while facing him…
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 3, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
so you’re not denying it then.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 3, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
:)
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 3, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Please, everyone! Travis was on the clock when the bottle rocket incident occurred. He was testing out new advanced stats.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I seek some clarification here. Did he fall off the deck as a result of the physical blast or because he was laughing too hard at the result of such horseplay?
I think he’s suing because the blast knocked him off the deck. The original article was pretty vague.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 3, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Dan Boyle scored on his own net.
Again.
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
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Suck it, Phaneuf
They should give him more OZ starts, he’s safer down there.
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"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
What about Bryzgalov?
So the guy goes 4-1 with a 1.7 GAA and ~.933 Sv% in his last 5 starts…. and there’s almost no mention of it….. with only the loss against Boston giving up more than one goal….
Just sayin. Seems just a bit of bias at work.
"Ocean: A body of water covering 2/3 of a world MADE for man....who has no gills."
Are you accusing Geoff of bias in his link selection or the media of bias in their article writing?
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No accusations… simply observations.
"Ocean: A body of water covering 2/3 of a world MADE for man....who has no gills."
Just sayin. Seems just a bit of bias at work.
I’m asking whether you think you’re observing bias on the selection of topics written about or on the selection of topics linked to.
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I’m observing a basic lack of recognition, in general. The guy has a bad night, and folks are jumping all over him. The guy strings together two weeks of solid…. and there’s nary a whisper.
"Ocean: A body of water covering 2/3 of a world MADE for man....who has no gills."
I think this is probably a result of the order of events and corresponding confirmation bias.
If he’d had a great first half of the season, everyone would’ve been talking about what a great acquisition he was and a rough patch would’ve been overlooked or excused. But he had a terrible first half of the season, so the benefit of the doubt went the other way, and now it’s the good stretches that get overlooked or excused.
I guess my opinion is that people form an opinion in the first month or two and then it takes a month or two of things going the other way to get them to change their minds, and they aren’t going to talk much about a week or two that goes against their already-formed opinion.
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last couple have been fairly easy teams and shot havent been hard ones
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"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
The Flyers needed to win to equal Nashville’s point total. Easy teams?
"Ocean: A body of water covering 2/3 of a world MADE for man....who has no gills."
it was sarcasm font dusty
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some of us were already saying that Bryz would bounce back and perform better than Bobs down the stretch
so no, this isn’t surprising to me
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 3, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just yesterday Geoff posted a link to an article saying that Tuesday’s win was a “good first step” for Bryz, so that would seem to acknowledge his recent improvement. And in the recap of last night’s game, everybodyhitswoohoo said:
Bryz with a 1.74 GAA and a .938 save % over his last five games. Progress. One more strong game away from being back at .900 WOOOOOOOOOO.Those are just two examples, but I’d say it’s been noticed and acknowledged. On the other hand, there are also people who still gave Bryz shit for his play last night and Tuesday against Winnipeg, saying that he still sucks despite the low GA and good SV%. So there are people on both sides of the fence, those that think he’s doing better as of late, and those who aren’t convinced.
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Well, that kind of comment isn’t too out of the ordinary for me. I make an effort to praise and/or criticize both goalies when I feel like they deserve it. Obviously, Bob has garnered (and completely deserved) a higher percentage of the praise for the year, but yeah, as a whole things seem disproportionately slanted in his favor.
But I digress, because I’ve said this too many times before and I don’t feel like going back through it.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 3, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Just sayin. Seems just a bit of bias at work.
Welcome to Philadelphia. Did you read the lede in the Inquirer’s recap?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would have responded differently, but you already got a clarification on what he meant by that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 3, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, there was no reason for the writers of the site to feel cornered or defensive in any way. Although, there are one or two that lean in a preferred direction on the goaltender subject………….. hehe.
"Ocean: A body of water covering 2/3 of a world MADE for man....who has no gills."
Between Bob and Bryz? I’m not sure any of the powers that be have a preference, actually. Whoever plays best.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I mean, I have a preference, but I’m not going to say the better goalie deserves to sit.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 4, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder who you could possibly mean…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 4, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
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