Monday Morning Fly By: That Was Literally the Worst Weekend Ever
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Recaps of yesterday's really bad game: [BSH] [CSNPhilly] [Frequent Flyers] [Daily News] [Inquirer] [delcotimes.com] [Flyers Faithful] [the700level] [The Checking Line]
- When asked what the difference is between the Flyers and Rangers, Kimmo Timonen said "the goalie": [delcotimes.com]
- The Flyers are aware of concussions, especially since Paul Holmgren had one this year: [delcotimes.com]
- The Phantoms lost to Providence Saturday, 3-2. They scored from center ice in the waning seconds, but were offsides: [PostStar]
- Jakub Kovar stopped 32 of 33 shots in a 2-1 OT win yesterday: [euroflyers]
- Johan Backlund stopped 27 of 28 shots in a 3-1 win on Saturday: [euroflyers]
- Ed Rendell and Ed Snider are part of a group interested in buying the Inquirer and Daily News: [SB Nation Philly]
- A good look at what is really troubling the NHL - operating income: [The Checking Line]
- How is Seattle looking as an NHL city? Better than it was last week: [Puck Daddy]
- Other ways NHL teams get an unfair home ice advantage: [Down Goes Brown]
- Checking in on the weekly playoff probabilities: [Fear The Fin]
- PDO is a little like BABiP, at least in the sense that some players are consistently above or below the average: [Hockey Analysis]
- Bruce Boudreau could be a legitimate Jack Adams candidate, if only because the Capitals are significantly worse without him. But really, his teams are better with him than without him. By a lot: [Backhand Shelf]
- Asking for assistance in refining the introduction for advanced statistics: [Arctic Ice Hockey]
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Not sure I like Timmo’s goalie comment at all. Is Bryz or Bobs Lundqvist? No, absolutely not. But the difference between the Flyers and Rangers is the Flyers defense of which the goalie is a part of but by no means the biggest culprit.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
This is true, the goalie is part of the Defense, but I think it comes down to bailing each other out on a play. And those bailouts have failed on both accounts.
You can’t expect your goalie to make every save on a D breakdown, nor can you expect your D to bail out your goalie every play either.
I don’t think Kimmo was trying to call his goalie out, but he was probably very frustrated with the soft goals that got past Bryz, I know I was as well.
Bryz needs to realize that his D is hurting and lacking some experience and he needs to help them out some. He is the veteran in net and needs to take a better leadership role when it comes to the younger D men.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
The reality is Lundqvist is a top 3 goalie, which means he gives his team an advantage that 27 others don’t have and yet some of those 27 other teams are still successful. So it’s not just the goalie.
I agree that I don’t think Kimmo was trying to call out his goalie, that doesn’t seem to be his character but I do think it was an ill advised comment to make, unless it was taken out of context but I don’t think it was.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
True.
Either way Bryz needs to step up his game as far as soft goals go. That and another top level D man wouldn’t hurt either.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
Lundquist has been a huge difference maker in this series though. The games have been the tight the Flyers even have had the better of the chances in the end Lundquist has been player of the game in all 3 match ups. I think the comment should reflect more on how stellar Lundquist has been as opposed to how bad either of the Flyers goalies have been.
Nodl 12G 127GP, Talbot 10G 44GP
Yeah and that is probably what he meant but the ambiguity of the comment is why it was probably better off not being said.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I’ve found I don’t like a lot of the comments Timonen makes. He likes to blame the goalies openly in the media. That’s a jackass move, if you ask me. Especially with all the defensive breakdowns and turnovers we’re having. Kimmo is a great defender, and I’m not saying our goalies are perfect, but still, people in glass houses and all that. These are comments better kept to himself.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Also, I would love to see Seattle get an NBA team back after theirs was stolen from them, even more to the point, I would love to see them get an NHL team.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I’m all about having more teams on the west coast so more games can start at a decent hour. How can they expect me to drag myself out of bed for a 10 AM start on a Saturday or Sunday?
/everyone should work around my schedule
"We've got no legs to stand on and we're running wild"
by Phaninsanfran on Feb 6, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
Sometimes, I wonder what it would be like to wake up on the West Coast on a Sunday, and then have football to watch in an hour or so, and then have the vast majority of your day still ahead of you when it’s over.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Or be watching the 12:30 NBC Sunday hockey games at 9:30 am with a cup of coffee and bowl of cereal. As an East Coast native, there’s something foreign to me about having those games be so early that there aren’t even bars open to go watch them at. I suppose you adjust, though.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 6, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
I used to go to a bar every Sunday morning at 9:30ish to watch the Eagles. I can promise you that it’s a really seedy, gross feeling.
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I used to go to a bar every Sunday morning at 9:30ish to watch the Eagles. .
much better. beer church.
btw, am definitely in Colorado when our Flyers are at the SharkTank. So we’ll have to wait a year, or two.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
i’ve heard of those. they say they have them. in the big cities. is it really true?
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Schedule is kinda funny right now, actually.
I have family coming into town, so this Wed and Fri are out. Then the Sharks go on a 9-game road trip and their first game back is the Flyers game.
But there’s a bunch of Tuesday and Thursday games in March…/shrug
Email me if you’re interested and we can work something out.
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Writer at Broad Street Hockey
ok. we’ll continue offline.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I just read the Bleacher Report’s 5 reasons Bryz will have a short stay in Philly…does anyone think there’s a chance Bryz will waive his NTC if the Flyers asked him to?
I think the real question is whether any other team would be willing to take on that massive contract. It looks to me like the only way we could get rid of him would be for him to leave for Russia.
"We've got no legs to stand on and we're running wild"
by Phaninsanfran on Feb 6, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he isn’t going anywhere. It’s not about his willingness to move, it’s about no team wanting that contract.
by mantis toboggan on Feb 6, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
I could see him wanting out due to the pressure.there was no pressure in pheonix nor anaheim really. Here he’s in the coals annd he can’t like it. We have bob every1 loves bob, bryz acts as thought opinion gets to him so him thriving here will be hard. I could totally see him wanting a trade to a less pressure city or leaving for russia…otherwise buy him out and get a top teir dman with the money
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
My theme song for the day is “I Hate Sports” by 7 Seconds. One o’ them days.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Greatest picture ever.
Hell on Ice/In Lou We Trust/Twitter
Everyone has more goals than Scott Gomez
by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 6, 2012 8:31 AM EST reply actions
Question: Do Flyers (and Rags fans for that matter) get discounts to Devils home games now that portions of the money our fan bases pay for our expensive home game tickets go to your franchise so you can enjoy a product on the ice that you ultimately can’t afford? …just wondering. To me it’s like taxpayers paying for someone on welfare to own a Mercedes.
by IG on Feb 6, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
No, but it’s hilarious that you guys buy tickets to keep giving the organization money.
Hell on Ice/In Lou We Trust/Twitter
Everyone has more goals than Scott Gomez
by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 6, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t figure out how to parse this sentence. Going to assume trolling and move on.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I’m sorry, I was kind of a dick with that. But it’s a bit of a run-on sentence, and hard to understand because of it, but I’m picking up snark directed at Kevin. I’m assuming you’re trolling him because you think he’s trolling us, since he’s a Devils fan. He’s here a lot, and usually he takes our jabs about the Devils not having any fans, so I don’t think he’s trolling.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Incorrect assumption…his comment was more of a troll [at least] to me. I want to know how it’s fair we get punished with higher ticket prices and, meanwhile, pay for organizations like the Devils to buy players like Kovalchuk when they can’t afford it. That “Greatest Picture Ever” made me think about how it’s courtesy of teams like the Flyers they can even pay for that player. I’ll move on. Sorry for vetting.
by IG on Feb 6, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a valid point, for sure. I just think directing it at him sounded trollish to me. No worries, agreeing to move on.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I was going to put up a picture of a hook being baited beneath his comment but figured it was redundant. Plus he’s part of management over at ILWT so there’s probably a subtext/context I don’t know about.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Acquire Danny Syvret
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And matt calvert
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 9:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And Suter, Weber, and Gleason
Bob.
by The Dark on Feb 6, 2012 12:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well if we’re being so logical, let’s acquire a ten year younger Pronger?
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
and henrique lundquist for a 7th rounder
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
Oh Kimmo, either you are blind or stupid, but the goalie isn’t the only difference between the Flyers and the Rangers
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions
May have been the difference maker though
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 9:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m not going to argue with you
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
I also blame lavy never shanging his plans when they don’t work if that’s any condolence
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What I didn’t add was that he said he thought the Flyers played well.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
We have a different definition of “playing well”
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Which is interesting and troubling, as one of the teams leaders, if he is actually ok with the effort yesterday, and really thinks they played well then how do you improve?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
oh how I miss you Chris Pronger
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
How did this team ever get along without him
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This isn’t a team chemistry problem. There are no rifts in the club house
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
i wasnt saying that, i meant how did we manage b4 we got a hof densman
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 9:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
How do you know?!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
scooter is a cancer trade him now
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Feb 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
because we’ve traded away those problems Geoff
right?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, well in that case.
Carry on.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
it’s not like turnovers have been an epidemic under this regime or anything, right?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Blaming Matt Carle again, are we??
LET IT GO, MAN!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
at least Matt Carle gift wrapped his present. Bourdon just left his out in the open, unwrapped
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
He’s considerate like that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
sarcasm aside. I do like him as a player and think he is worth the money
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously I feel the same.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
you create awkward silences by disagreeing with me
then again, I don’t think we’ve ever argued about anything
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
The reason for that is we are both sarcastic assholes.
Knowing that going in means that our replies are, pardon my language, mental masturbation exercises. Even if we did disagree, we know it’s more fun to just be sarcastic.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
that and I don’t argue with numbers, because numbers are better than watching a game with your eyes, which is what I love to do
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Geoff Detweiler, your headline reminded me of Parks and Recreation. I like that. It is literally the best way to start my day. Kudos!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
haha, That’s what I was going for!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Chris lol
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
So not only does this thing exist, but now you have deprived everyone of cake!
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Feb 6, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I almost forgot my indignation!
Fuck CSN! Interviewing SethDH for the #Hartnelldown piece but neglecting to show that he’s wearing a #Hartnelldown t-shirt? Bastards! I could have been somebody. I coulda been a contender, instead of a bum, which is what I am.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
It’s taking me a while to compose my thoughts. One thing I consider about our defense (and I’m referring to the total team D, not just the defensemen) leads to another issue, maybe systemic, maybe personnel.
This is what I’m seeing, and feel free to criticize my eyes:
1) our forwards don’t help out the defensemen enough in their rush to get up the ice
2) our defensemen, with the usual exception of Kimmo (and Pronger), have problems figuring out where they need to go when things break down, as they eventually will with the aggressive system
It starting to look like the system doesn’t really fit the personnel very well. I fully expect an “I told you so” from CCB now.
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Feb 6, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions
It starting to look like the system doesn’t really fit the personnel very well. I fully expect an "I told you so" from CCB now.
That’s where I am as well.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
seeing as I was originally drinking the Kool Aid, there will be no I told you so
Only crying, and then being happy with the 6ers
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree, I think this team does fit Lavy’s system, extremely well. My problem has always been, Lavy’s system.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Samsies. I think this team is much better at Lavy’s system, but previous iterations were better at covering up the flaws in it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah that’s my thought as well, but we have talked about this in person before. Speaking of in person, since you moved, you’ve missed out on 3 invites to Flyers games.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Shaun deserves them more than I anyway. Though you can always let Jenn and Erin go.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I offered him a pair for him and Monica; he regretfully declined.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Very regretfully.
Does anyone know of anyone looking for a designer in the area in or around Conshohocken?! PLEASE?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 6, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Awww
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 6, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Did I miss something? Are we not friends anymore?
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
No… We certainly are, but there isn’t much I can do. Unless it’s a weekend game, which I’m sure you don’t have free tickets.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I did this past weekend, but the ticket went to a teammate. But yeah, you are on my list for potential weekend games.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Hopefully I don’t have to say no due to moving. :/
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how that’s possible. Lavy’s system further exposes the defense. To me, if a system works, and the team fits that system then it should cove up weaknesses not further expose them.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Lavy’s system exposes any defense, it’s kind of a natural byproduct of his system IMO. He no longer has two lines of elite 2 way forwards to lean on to cover up the flaws of his system. But if you were to look at player types, I think this team fits in with Lavy’s general philosophy better; sure maybe the results are worse, but I think this group, especially the forwards are what Lavy really likes.
So I view Lavy’s system as an inherently flawed system, that’s how it’s possible. I also don’t think Lavy really went full out on his system until this year; at least to my eyes.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I agree, his system is flawed and I agree, his system does inherently expose the defense. However the way I see it, and I don’t mean that literally, is that for me to say the team fits his system then the players on the team, even with the inherent exposing of the defense should still be good enough to not make the mistakes they do.
I think the forwards fit Lavy’s system. I think the defense does not. In order for the system to work the way Lavy intends it do, he needs a strong defense to go along with his forwards and he doesn’t have that.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Well then that’s due more to injury than anything else. As far as starting rosters go, this team fits his system better than last year (only difference in D is Lilja instead of OD). And honestly, I don’t think team D has ever been an important part of his system. Sure it helps to have it, but in general I think his plan relies heavily on out scoring with high shot totals for both teams the other team; at least that’s the way he rolled with Carolina when they won it, but then again that doesn’t mean that team fit his system either.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I see what you are saying, to which I would say, that if the team truly fit the system then it would require forwards who are better able to cover up the defense, which, it currently can not do. That is not to say the forwards stink, or can’t do their job but simply that the guys on the team can’t do it the way Lavy needs them to. Maybe they can in the future since so much of the team is rookies.
I would say that given that, Lavy needs to change his system but really, that may help them this year, but going forward I don’t think that is what needs to be done, ideally I think they just need a new coach who has a system that would work better for this team now and going forward.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
that if the team truly fit the system then it would require forwards who are better able to cover up the defense, which, it currently can not do
That’s our difference then. I don’t think Lavy sees it that way, or if he does, he’d prefer more offense/push/aggressive/jam/whatever to 2 way guys. I just see it as Lavy coveting a different type of player than 2 way guys that can cover up for the defense. So that’s my disconnect.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
And I have no basis for that other than a hunch based off of his sometimes aggravating line matching.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
i got torn a new one yesterday for saying the same exact thing about jam which i called heart. funny you dont get called out by multiple people for saying it, but then again, youre a regular so why question your opinion
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I consider you a regular, too. I recognize the screen name. What did you say? What was the context? I’d hope there’s a better explanation to the reaction you got.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
yeah see my definition of a regular are you or don or chem ccb travis the people who actually have imput into what is going on. so far ive done nothing but just state general opinions and i got called out and then reacted in a way where i took my frustrations for the whole day out for being called out in a deserving way.
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I have input into what’s going on?? /drunk-with-non-masthead-power!
But seriously, I’d bet it’s a matter of context. And knowing that “jam” has been a running gag since 24/7. Either way, I wasn’t there yesterday, so I can’t say. Sorry if you felt singled out because you’re not Don. :-/
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
well i see your screen name often having back to back conversations with other people about hockey. and its in a productive positive way and that provides for an expansion of knowledge when it comes to the flyers. i have yet to achieve thus not making me a regular nor having good input. but like geoff commented to me yesterday thats my opinion of myself
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well I thank you for the kind words about me. As for you, no worries, it’ll come. Continue to contribute to the conversations, ask questions, propose your ideas. Most folks are here to share ideas and learn from others. Just be clear whether you intend your comments to be opinion or fact, and don’t take any feedback too seriously or personally. If someone is out of line in responding to you, odds are someone else will call them on it (I hope).
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
If I remember correctly – and it’s possible I don’t – you questioned the team’s effort level. Don is simply saying Lavy would prefer “offense/push/aggressive/jam/whatever” guys to two way players.
In one, Don is speculating as to the type of player Laviolette wants, offering up “jam” as one possible descriptor for the type of player. In yours, you said the team wasn’t trying hard enough.
If that is an accurate interpretation of what you said yesterday, I think you can see the difference between the two statements, and why the reaction did not depend on “regular” status or not.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
yeah ill admit there was a huge difference and i definitely did not word my opinion very well. if you look back in the 3rd period thread i tried to address everything you said to me. dont know if it is satisfactory but i tried to explain it. doesnt mean its alright by any means but an explanation at least maybe provides some insight as to why i was so hostile
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
No worries, it happens.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
oh and i also forgot to mention jam and heart are kind of the same thing in my mind. but i can see the difference between the two from other people as well
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Understandable. I just think the context here is what matters.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
There seem to me to be important differences.
First of all, I don’t think jam and heart are the same thing. Jam means get in their face, be aggressive (notice the other words that DLJr uses). Heart is more about giving more when there’s nothing left in your tank or when it seems the game is lost.
Second, it is in the context of a discussion about strategy. It has nothing to do with the idea that players are quitting or not putting out an effort. Yesterday your rant – you called it that at the end of the comment – was about the players’ character. They’re very different discussions.
As for being a “regular” I think if DLJr had said what you said the way you said it the initial response from the other “regulars” would have been ??? but he would get challenged for it.
This whole “clique” thing you bring up seems to me like blaming the refs – it’s a distraction from the particular issue being discussed. People do get used to particular content, tone and style from others who comment a lot. I’ve agreed with some of your observations about the culture here and what it’s like for newcomers or the un-statters but I think it’s very much an equal opportunity site for challenging a person’s comments. What you call “cliques” are just people knowing each other and having rapport.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you.
To further this idea of a clique (not sure if this is something that came up over the weekend as well). Eric and I have disagreed on here, so have Geoff and I. When we do, we tell the other person. Also, there are several things we disagree on over email that never get discussed here. The only thing we have is some level of familiarity with each other, but that doesn’t mean we blindly agree with each other. For Geoff and I, I think it heightens the amount of “shit” we give each other when we do disagree. For Eric and I, I think it’s more of a really, okay, hmm I just don’t see it that way kind of a thing. The reason I use Eric and Geoff as examples is because we tend to agree on a large number of topics and use similar analysis.
Anyway, if there was some kind of clique thing that came up yesterday, or over the weekend, I want to say, even if there are cliques on here (if there are, I am definitely on the outside of some of them) they don’t excuse anyone from disagreement. If Geoff thinks I’m wrong he wants to be the first to call me on it. I apologize if I went off topic.
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For the 1,000,000 time and for the benefit of everyone. There is only one Kliq...

And this is it.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
If Geoff thinks I’m wrong he wants to be the first to call me on it.
Your gosh darn right I do.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Please, we all no you’re in that “new” anti-Geoff click.
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Plz, we’ll no yr in tht new anti-Eric clik.
You’re and your. They’re, there, their.
I understand that people say they’re just typing quickly, but really – I even text in proper english phraseology and grammar. I get it; I’m a dinosaur. But I also don’t look like an idiot in official emails the way a lot of my coworkers do.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, though I don’t care enough to correct people’s grammar on a hockey message board.
Unless it’s Geoff talking about how he wants to be the first to point out someone’s mistakes.
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Oh, regardless of context, correcting Geoff is ALWAYS acceptable :)
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
And yes – I am in that clique :0)
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Work I check, typing to you, I could give two shits. No offense of course.
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None taken, actually.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I guess it’s more about the fact that I can’t separate the two contexts – social and work. I mean, english is english for me. Some of my friends (and my wife as well) chide me for my precision in choosing my vocabulary and sentence structure, even when I’m just bullshitting at the bar or something. It’s just not how I think, so it’s not how I speak or type, I guess.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
I got frustrated at a young age by a teacher grading more on grammar and spelling than substance of a paper; from that day I pretty much said f it. In college, for any electives I never even used spell check, all I cared about was the substance. The comments from the professors were always funny though.
But yeah, I understand where you are coming from.
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I found that equally frustrating, but my response was to be completely and insanely precise in my language. Diff’rent strokes, diff’rent folks, yeah?
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t have an excuse. I’m usually anal about that, so the fact that I made that mistake is rather embarrassing.
Not even a “typing quickly” problem, since I consciously editing “God damn” to “gosh darn”.
Just a mental fail is all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Your grammar here needs work too.
since I consciously editing
Just sayin’.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I quit.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
when i said clique, which i admit was probably the wrong word to use, i meant those on here that know their shit like its nothing. whether they agree or disagree, they know what their talking about and can back it up easily.
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Got ya. I just know I missed a huge thing this weekend, so I wasn’t sure if this was somehow related. I just went off on the tangent to make sure I covered the topic in case it was part of all the crap I apparently missed (which I don’t think it was).
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nah i just went on a non statistical no logical irrational rant about the flyers play due to my frustrations at the time over time warner, msg, nhl game center, the flyers play, got called out, still hadnt cooled off, fired back, then got called out some more, then got fired up again with the battle with the nhl and msg, fired back more, got called out again, cooled off and realized how stupid i sounded.
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
i meant those on here that know their shit like its nothing. whether they agree or disagree, they know what their talking about and can back it up easily.
This isn’t a big deal, really. I don’t consider myself all that knowledgeable compared to many of the folks around here. And I’m definitely not good with stats. So if I have an idea but can’t readily back it up, I’ll make my observation and ask if anybody else agrees or if the stats support it. Sometimes I’m right, sometimes I’m not. Never hurts to ask. But making a claim with nothing to back it up and then getting defensive when someone challenges it or asks for an explanation, that’ll get you in trouble. Most of the time folks aren’t looking to attack a new opinion when it’s introduced, they just want to understand it, so they ask for more info. As was said elsewhere last week, stating opinion as opinion is fine, stating opinion as fact is no bueno.
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and i agree and if you look at yesterdays third period thread i laid that all out. it is one of my biggest pet peeves in life when people say things are true just because. but in an extreme moment of frustration i did that and then got pissed when i got called out for the thing i hate. looking back on it i wouldnt expect anything different than being called out for what i said without backing it up, but as i said i used that rant as more of a way to get my frustrations out about a lot of other things, like the fact that i paid $169 for game center only to find out msg and time warner no longer wanted to be partners so i got screwed out of a quarter of the games left. then a week later it went to 109 conveniently right after my cancellation period ended and time warner and msg split. i mentioned all of this in the first period thread early on but i should have elaborated or gave a disclaimer that i was going to do something irrational and to almost ignore it
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
but in an extreme moment of frustration i did that and then got pissed when i got called out for the thing i hate
No worries, happens to everyone. Except Geoff, he’s a robot.
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Oh shit, didn’t think about that possibility.
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Domo arigato geoff detweiler roboto
by profoundnotions on Feb 7, 2012 5:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I honestly don’t know who Kilroy is…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well, this is how it started:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_was_here
But then Styx went and wrote a silly song (that’s incredibly awesome in its cheesiness) called “Mr. Roboto,” whereupon the character dressed as a robot is revealed to be Kilroy in the end.
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Ah. Fascinating.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
I weep.
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Actually, the lyrics are oddly fitting for you, Mr. Detweiler…
I’m not a robot without emotions-I’m not what you see
I’ve come to help you track zone entries, Fenwick, and Corsi
I’m not a hero, I’m not a saviour, forget what you know
I’m just a man whose scoring chances went beyond his control
Beyond my control-we all need control
I need control-we all need control
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by hintzy64 on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I love this. I can’t believe it wasn’t green before I just found it, but it is now.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 7, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
“What you call "cliques" are just people knowing each other and having rapport.”
agreed and i certainly will admit clique was probably the wrong choice of word. but i admittedly dont know any other words to describe it.
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t around yesterday so I can’t comment on what you said. I don’t bring up heart here because I don’t believe in questioning anyone’s heart as it is too often applied differently to different people (that is I feel people change it’s definition for different players) and it’s so beyond measure. My mention of jam was the insert of humor in my comment since it cracked me up during 24/7.
So the only thing I can comment on is I never meant to imply anything about heart in my statement, especially since I don’t consider “heart” to be a playing style and jam was meant as a bit of a joke.
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I agree with you Don that Lavy’s system is flawed but all systems are flawed against certain matchups there isn’t a perfect system. Lavy’s system flaws are exposed particularly against good defense teams like the Rangers and Boston who can deal with the aggressive forecheck and whose god like goaltenders make amazing saves. There is not surprising those teams are the ones who have given the Flyers the most trouble. Against those teams the Flyers goaltending is going to have to be better than usual because you can expect to score 3 or 4 goals consistently against those teams. Even Buffalo was tough last year because of Miller but the Buffalo defense isn’t as good as NYR or BOS at deal with the forecheck and playing with the lead.
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I am on that ship myself…lavvies system only seems to work on defensively sound group of players…we do not have that anymore. Wether I liked richie and carter or not(unclutch fuck!) They were godly at defending the rush with the d men…we just don’t have as good 2 way fowards anymore, or as mature whichever you prefer
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by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 10:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But thinking about your post, what if Lavy wasnt our coach and a completely different system was in place? Do you think the defensive core we have right now is good enough to win it all, given the fact they are still not a “defensively sound group of players”? Its not the system, its the players’ weaknesses being highlighted because of the system; they still have those weaknesses regardless of the coach, imo.
I never thought this entire team was good enough to win it all this year (not to say they would be bad, more so 6-8 seed, 1st or 2nd round elimination), regardless of coach.
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Same here. After all the moves, I figured we’d be a bubble team. There were too many question marks for me (and some still remain) about where the scoring would come from and how we’d be on defense. And of course my pessimistic side thought all the hype surrounding Bryz was setting him up for failure.
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Absolutely they still have the weakness but this system openly shows them..its a run and gun system. Extremely effective when with a healthy group that’s fresh and not tired. But when used with a depleted team it opens up holes that we are seeing now. A more conservative system that didn’t have our d men low and or fowards away from defending against the conter rush may suit us better right now
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by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 10:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Depleted as in a more suspect d core and less defensive minded fowards
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by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the obvious solution is that the Flyers need a new Defensive Coordinator. I heard Juan Castillo is available for the next few months.
by Clutterbuck4MVP on Feb 6, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Damn, I am in a shit mood this morning. The Flyers completely blew this weekend. The Superbowl was fine, I thought it was a very enjoyable game (don’t follow the NFL seriously, so didn’t care who won), but my facebook feed is full of “the Ravens could have won that game!” and “Peyton Manning is the best QB ever! NO ONE DENIES THIS!”, and it’s really getting on my nerves. Especially the continued crying over the Ravens thing, get over it already, you’re embarrassing yourselves. And then Kimmo blaming it all on the goalies puts me in an even fouler mood.
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Sorry, I am in a “bad” mood. Don’t want to offend any children by over-expressing myself.
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Fuck ’em.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly haven’t decided what I’ll do about swearing when I have kids. I don’t swear very much, but it does happen. And my wife and I both agree that it is a silly concept in our society anyway, what makes one word okay and another one bad? It’s totally arbitrary. But if I don’t want my kids to say it, at least when they’re young, I have to provide a good example. Once they’re grown up, then I don’t care. So adults can say those words, but kids can’t. Which is even more arbitrary. What a mess.
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If you can convey to your child what people will think of him or her for saying certain words, and how you don’t want them to look that way, but that you don’t care what they say, it would seem to be the best route to go for what you want.
But you can’t do it in a parent lecture way :P
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I took the approach with my son, who is 1 week shy of 10, that (a) he’s going to hear these words from other people, in movies, and at home from his parents, (b) these words are generally not considered acceptable in public, especially from children, and © because of (b) I don’t want to hear you say them outside of the house.
I also told him he’s got plenty of time to learn to use them appropriately, and that it’s inevitable. He’s just gotta mind when & where. I said this a couple years ago. He’s only recently begun to try using a few of them at home. I discourage him but don’t punish him.
My four-yr-old adopted daughter, though — she repeats everything. So we really have to watch ourselves now. And context is lost on her, she’ just too young.
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I guess what my parents did worked fine. They did not swear around me as a child, and they still don’t now. (My step-parents, however, do, though they didn’t enter the picture until I was in college.) And I don’t swear around them, even now. The exception, in both directions, would be in situations of great distress, like avoiding an accident while driving or getting hurt while working on something.
Somehow they impressed upon me that there are situations where those words are acceptable and situations where they are not. So I think you two are right, it’s not a lecture topic, but something that can be taught with gentle nudging. But I should probably try to keep myself mostly clean until they are old enough to understand the difference and context, so they don’t just repeat something without knowing it’s frowned upon.
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My father swore around me frequently and let me swear all the time. What I was taught then, and teach my son now, is that it’s fine so long as it isn’t personal and only around friends and some family. i.e. religious Grandparents wouldn’t take too kindly to it, that sort of thing. It’s all about situations as your said.
As an aside, I keep myself mostly clean as well except when under extreme duress or during a sporting event of some import. I mostly try to avoid watching big games around my son because I really can’t control myself.
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Yep. Well put. My dad started using the S-word around me, and my mom when she’d drop something or whatnot. But they both indicated that it’s very situational and generally frowned upon.
Based on your parenting style and your kid’s level of common sense and learning style, finding the right approach isn’t that hard.
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Based on your parenting style and your kid’s level of common sense and learning style, finding the right approach isn’t that hard.
From observing other people when I’m out and about, I know that I don’t want to ignore my kids and be too lax (like some of the parents in my group of townhouses), but I also don’t want to be too strict and controlling, or screaming at/bullying them like some parents do. And probably the biggest thing I’ve learned is to stand my ground and not give in to a tantrum, otherwise they’ll learn they can beat it and will walk over you. Choosing your battles seems to be key. So my goal is to be laid back, but still clear on what I expect. But I suppose I suppose I’ll find out how that works when I get there. :-p
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by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
No matter what, you and your wife must be a united front.
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This too. I learned that loophole as a kid. Knew how to exploit it without them finding out and closing it.
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it’s for the kids’ benefit too, not just your own survival. my parents had no idea how to handle my older sister and me and we walked all over them. they capitulated by the time we were 11 or 12. i think as adults it created big problems for both of us, which for many and obvious reasons i won’t detail.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, my parents got divorced just after I left for college and my little sister was still at home. The one parent vs the other loophole grew and my sister took full advantage. She got a lot of things I was never allowed to have. I don’t blame her for it, she worked the system, she’s a smart kid. But at the same time, since I was away, my financial support from home kind of dried up and I largely took care of myself. She, on the other hand, learned how to get extra support from both and still isn’t fully independent. Granted, her job doesn’t pay very well, but still. I don’t help matters much either, she’s my little sister, so I’ll gladly take her our to dinner or buy her tix to go to a Flyers game with me. I spoil her. :-p
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The most important thing to do is get your kids interest in sports so you always have something to talk about. Not even joking.
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I think any activity—doesn’t have to be sports—that you can have in common. Also, gives them an outlet so at least they are somewhat less likely to find trouble.
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The most important thing to do is get your kids interest in sports so you always have something to talk cuss about.
/joking
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha, perfectly said. This is my conundrum too.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I taught my nieces that they can swear at the goalie if he has a bad contract.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What I’ve decided to do with my daughter is merely act disgusted. So when her aunts and uncles swear – as they will – I’ll look disdainfully upon them from my lofty moral perch and poo-pooh them. And I myself will desperately try to contain my language in her presence; I’ve already started practicing even though she can’t say anything more than “Dada”. I figure it’s more about having the maturity to understand what is appropriate and when, and you can’t expect children to innately have that knowledge, so giving them the impression that it is unsavory in all instances is best.
I’m also saving all my change, in anticipation of my wife instituting a ‘swear jar’ very soon.
It’s funny; my parents didn’t cuss at all. My father still sounds vaguely embarrassed when he does. However, I curse almost as a matter of course; not sure if it was growing up in the ’hood or my time in the military, but I have to make a conscious effort in professional situations to control my language.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hank made some saves he shouldn’t have. He stoned G on a breakaway and made a handful of great saves in key moments. Kimmo’s remarks don’t say “Our goalie sucked.” They say the goalie was the difference. I don’t think there’s enough to condem him for throwing Bryzy under the bus. Besides if he’d have been thrown in front of any bus the bus would simply slip through his five-hole anyway.
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by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
True. I guess I’m going from his comments in the past about our goaltending. Didn’t he say just a few weeks ago that the D is more confident (or comfortable, something like that) with Bob in net than Bryz? And his comments last year about communication problems with Bob so the D didn’t know what to do. He just seems to like to talk about the goalies, and it’s often not good. He says a lot of things I think he shouldn’t be saying in public.
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No doubt maybe he shouldn’t have said it or should have maybe clarified, but if I’m going to give anyone a free pass for what he says it’s Kimmo. My Finnish proclivities aside, the dude is insanely good at his job. After any game I find it hard to fault a player for what he’s saying since emotions and adrenaline are still running high. After yesterday’s game I couldn’t care less what they say. They should all be pissed off.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 6, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm, fair enough.
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"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
My question to you, and apologies if I missed it up above, is whether you think a player should ever knock down a teammate through the press, or if your objection is somehow specific to Timonen.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Not specific to Timonen. If you have an issue with a teammate, take it to them in person and away from the media. To the media, you are unified as a team. Knocking a teammate in public shows cracks and weaknesses in that team.
I apply the same logic to business. I won’t badmouth a coworker or my company in front of someone from outside.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Plus, its not exactly controversial that Lundqvist is really good.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Truth.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 6, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I think there was the possibility for some word twisting in the article, so it’s hard to tell exactly what Kimmo meant. It was a poor word choice, but he could have been talking about Lundqvist, could’ve been talking about Bryz, or could have just meant that Lundqvist is simply on a higher level than Bryz is. I don’t think he should have said what he did, but the degree to which he intended to throw Bryz under the bus is unclear to me.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 6, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
This weekend’s games made me think of a Bart Simpson quote:
“I didn’t think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.”
"That was a lot of fun. We don't go to jail, we beat up their chicken forwards, we score ten goals, and we win. And now the Moose drinks beer." -Andre "Moose" Dupont
by LVHokejs on Feb 6, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
So … does this increase the chatter about a big trade, with the need to ‘shake up’ the team? Who’s captain now, and how can we trade them? (JK)
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
I’m not all that concerned, honestly. I’m more in the mindset of “the Flyers suck every February” than thinking there is fundamental problem with Lavi’s system.
by mantis toboggan on Feb 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST reply actions
Yeah, I think my bitterness this morning is a bit knee-jerk, and is compounded from multiple issues pissing me off. The Flyers will be fine. Or maybe they won’t. Either way, you can’t tell from just two games.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
then again, if you’ve been saying this for the last month like me, it’s not knee-jerk at all
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
left out of what?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
would you like to play pogs later and listen to the Spin Doctors?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, pogs
Yeah, I’m down with that. Where should we meet?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I got the Campbell’s soup NHL collection. Let’s do this!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 6, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Little Miss Little Miss Can’t Be Wrong
hmmm, I don’t like where this is going…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Actually that would be awesome. What are you up to Wednesday.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
probably some 6ers and Magic the Gathering
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
maybe this will help

/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Operating Income discussion
Does anyone know how the NBA does? Or the difference in spending between the teams (less players for one)? How do you re-lower player salaries? I mean, lowering the cap by 10 million nets all teams up on the cap 10 million more in profit, but what do you do with the current contracts?
I know the NHL just signed a new TV deal, is the TV deal too weak? Is it shared among the teams enough to give them some buoyancy? Something is going to happen in regards to the cap, and soon, and I don’t know what it will mean for the sport but two potential lockouts in a short span is not good.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Oversimplified, but still:
I think this is just the players’ 5% inflator coming back to bite them. The cap has been going up (almost) every year not because the league is making more money, but because the players have been voting on their 5% escalator. The cap is artificially high because the players made it that way.
If the League has to punish the players because of that, well… I really don’t have any sympathy when they roll back salaries again and lower the cap.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Would they, say, reduce the salary cap by a %, and then all contracts by that same %?
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Completely possible, but it makes too much sense, I fear.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
The players finally took an across-the-board cut, in order to hammer out the expiring CBA, right? Wasn’t it like 24% or something? Maybe there will talks around something less radical this time, and a better means to calculate the cap ceiling/floor.
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Right. I forget just how big it was, but it was a steep cut.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yep, 24% across the board.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 6, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Even with the new TV deal, I don’t believe that anything has changed with respect to the fact that the NHL still relies on gate receipts as their main source of revenue, at least relying on it more heavily in comparison to the other major sports leagues. Getting more money out of the TV deal may help them deal with the cap rising, but those that were struggling to pay salaries before the new deal are still likely struggling after it, because the new TV contract was factored into the calculation of t this year’s cap (and therefore the spending floor).
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 6, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
OT Superbowls Commercial Talk
I’m trying to watch the Clint Eastwood one…..I can’t understand a freaking word?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
Nevermind. The audio on the youtube is messed up. Yeah, I just said the youtube.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Feb 6, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Podcast this mornings preston and steve…they did a nice rendition
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Detroit: We may be freaking poor, but we have enough money every year to buy a Superbowl Commercial. PRIORITIES!!
(It’s disgraceful actually)
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
Detroit is ahead of the curve.
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
shrinking their city? balancing a budget?
I’d argue that yes, they’re ahead of the curve
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Oooh, don’t start me on City government budgets. On one hand the theory ‘if you build it, they will come’ is correct; on the other, throwing good money after bad is what local governments do best.
But seriously – Detroit had an ad? What in the hell were they possibly advertising? Opportunities for ranching or prospecting in the city limits?
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
“40 feet and a squid”
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
i hate when i fail my own jokes. It’s like missing the empty net.
“40 feet and an octopus”
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
I got it either way, so kudos.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I remember laughing a good bit, but honestly have forgotten what I was laughing at. They weren’t that memorable for me. I remember the stripping M&M one and the Matthew Broderick one, but that’s about it. Oh, and using some tax website is like peeing in a pool, and using some car website will give me an annoying 2nd head. Do not want.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Also, GoDaddy is rather insulting/demeaning towards women. GE is somehow responsible for creating shitty beer. And some people wanted support in fighting against “illegal guns”, which made me laugh because they had to specify illegal.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I just loved the ge commercial cause they say we create jobs, and all I count think is “yeah and then send them overseas”
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 12:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could*
Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
by reaper1221 on Feb 6, 2012 12:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
GoDaddy and that ridiculous Fiat one.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 6, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Enjoyed the racing dogs
Because Saturday we got us a puppy, and it will look just like the winner once it grows up.
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that was too obvious. They show a bunch of greyhounds and a pug, you know what’s going to happen.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Our puppy is a French Bulldog, but sure looks Puggish. Also, my wife said it should have a French name, so without hesitation, my son says “Giroux!”. And thus we have our own little Giroux.
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha, cool. Bulldog puppies are adorbs. Post a picture asap.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 6, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Have to have a URL?
Can’t post pix from local file system?
by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 6, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Here's a try
Haven’t posted picture before….preview works!

by Georgia_Flyer on Feb 7, 2012 7:18 AM EST up reply actions
I remember David Beckham’s underwear.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 6, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
And being uncomfortable because I was watching it with my husband.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 6, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah. I was like “Isn’t this an H&M commercial? Don’t they sell clothes?”
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I always thought they sold clothes for teenage girls. Evidently, they sell men’s clothes too.
I heart our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 6, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Moreso in Europe. I recall being in London and having a giant photo of Steve Buscemi on an H&M billboard. I mean, I like Buscemi, but if his face can sell clothes…
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
They do, but it is mostly not my style or professional-looking enough for me to wear to work. My wife likes H&M. They actually have nice stuff for women that isn’t solely intended for teenagers.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
You have to cull through a lot of faddy shit to get to the good stuff, though. I consider it primarily disposable clothing, like Old Navy.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
The bigger the store, the better stuff you can get. The two stores in Center City have very little in common, because they carry different lines of product.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 6, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Becks wears Phillies hats! It’s true!
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
So does Kristen Stewart. Yes I think she’s attractive.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
You might be the only one, or at least, the only one with stones enough to admit it.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I didn’t know who she was. She’s very interesting looking. I’m intrigued by women who look different from one photo to the next. Especially for celebrities, it’s a nice change from the packaged look. It’s still weird to me that food at McDonald’s is supposed to taste the same everywhere.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Looking different from one picture to the next is a good thing. Just with her, sometimes I like it, sometimes I don’t. Zooey Deschanel looks different from one pic to another, but I like the vast majority of them. My wife looks different from one day to the next, but I like it all. [shrugs]
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I think she is good looking. I can’t stand her as a person from what I’ve listened to, but I still think she’s attractive. She has a look I like (pale?). Anyway, I’d much prefer her over Katy Perry.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I’d prefer her over Katy Perry to but I think they both suck.
I don’t mind the pale look. Your favorite Emma Stone comes to mind. Her I dig. But Kristen Stewart, I think she’s so terrible as an actress that I have issues separating it from the overall package which includes her looks.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Yeah, her acting leaves something to be desired, but she’s not the worst. That honor belongs to Jessica Biel. So pretty; it’s such a shame.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Can’t mute the movie theater, as much as I’d love to.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
I actually don’t find Emma Stone attractive at all (well in Zombie Land I did). Though I’d prefer to watch Emma Stone act any day.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
...
I only brought her up because of the pale factor, have you seen a picture of her as a blonde? Apparently that is her natural hair color. She looks so different that I can’t really figure out how I feel about it. As an actress I think she’s fantastic.
Evidence below:

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Yeah just not my thing there. Pale isn’t necessarily my thing, I think it just works on Kristin Stewart. That pale thing was my attempt at humor.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I don’t mind pale to a degree. It can work, or it can look bad.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Pale is always better. ALWAYS.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
He was wearing one in the commercial. Didn’t you notice it? Or was your attention elsewhere?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Don’t know; didn’t watch the SB. Saw the ending, much to my chagrin and had to resist the urge to throw my remote through the TV.
WIP callers saying the Eagles can learn something from the Giants. What?!? What can they learn? How to get hot at the right time and burn through the playoffs? F you, people!!
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
WIP callers saying the Eagles can learn something from the Giants. What?!? What can they learn? How to get hot at the right time and burn through the playoffs? F you, people!!
Haha, yeah, as I said earlier, there was a bunch of crap this morning on facebook about how the Ravens could have won that game. Well if they could have won that game, maybe they should have tried winning the one before it, you know?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
The Giants were 9-7. 9 & 7. They gave up more points in the regular season than they scored. Parity, indeed. Mediocrity is more like it.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Don’t forget that the super-clutch get-up-for-it-when-it-counts Giants have had awful late-season collapses for much of the rest of Eli’s career.
@BSH_EricT
Writer at Broad Street Hockey
Yep. Selective memories. Although, to be fair, I’d take it over 4 straight NFCC appearances and no titles to show for it.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
For sure. But the takeaway message shouldn’t be “we need to be clutch like they are”. It should be “gawd, I’m so jealous, that could’ve been us.”
@BSH_EricT
Writer at Broad Street Hockey
Yeah, since we aren’t even sure “clutch” exists and how exactly can you time it?
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Isn’t timing inherent in “clutch” itself?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
first 9-7 team to ever win the SB
by fitzy first on Feb 6, 2012 8:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The NBC Sports Commercial
had an infant in a Flyers jersey struggling to stand up. I told Nicole that our first son is going to be a Flyers fan (She’s a Devs fan), while simultaneously wondering if someone had baby footage of Hartnell.
"Because wives and girlfriends aren’t on the road."
by BannedStreetBully on Feb 6, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions
I’m starting to get that Game of Thrones fever after reading 100 pgs of the first book
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions
April 1st new season, baby!
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
it will be awesome
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I am really looking forward to it.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
you should be!
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I don’t look forward to much; it’s pretty much just this and the new Phillies season.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
6ers are still there. Movies coming out. There’s always a book or 2 to catch up on. Netflix releases. Exercise (if there’s a need)
always stuff to be done or look forward to
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ick. Who looks forward to exercise?
I don’t really like to read, which I know is odd for a nerd like me who always did so well in school.
I like the Sixers, but in the end a Phils or Flyers title means more to me.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Who looks forward to exercise?
I do, because it’s awesome things like rock climbing and volleyball. Screw running.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Sir, running is amazing.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
by DLJr on Feb 6, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I keep trying it. I enjoy doing 5k’s and the like. The races are fun. But running by myself to train for them sucks, so I’ve never been able to do more than 5 miles or maintain a pace lower than 10 minutes/mile for the whole thing.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
You either get in to it or you don’t. You either love it or hate it, there’s literally no middle ground. When ever I take time off and start up again, I hate it for the first few weeks because sitting on my fat ass is so much easier and I got used to it. However, once I get back in to the swing of things I really enjoy it.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
For me though, it clears my head, de-stresses me, and keeps me fit as hell. All my numbers are great now, and as a person that comes from a family that has a history of heart problems, high cholesterol, and high BP, that makes running the most amazing thing.
Plus I just like getting outside and enjoying the weather. I guarantee I’m making better use of and enjoying this weather a hell of a lot more than most.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
For me though, it clears my head, de-stresses me, and keeps me fit as hell.
I do hear that. I’ve definitely had some rough days at work where it’s felt good to go home and pound pavement for half an hour. (But I can get similar satisfaction from climbing as well.) It’s just been hard to get myself into it and stay consistent. Hopefully being done with grad school will help.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yeah, if I felt more comfortable on a road bike I’d probably do that as well. This is just the easiest thing for me to do. The only equipment I need are running shoes; no gym membership, I don’t have to drive anywhere if I don’t want to, you can be all by yourself or with friends. It’s just the most convenient way for me to work out. It’s the same reason I love kettle bells for any weight type of stuff; more freedom to do whatever you want, whenever you want.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
No, it’s not. See my sig.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Once again, can I say how much I love HH in a completely non-creepy, non-stalking way?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
If that read “- O. Wilde” maybe I’d give it some credence.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I love Oscar Wilde. I am fairly certain if he were alive today, he’d agree that running is a futile endeavor.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Please, I’m referring to Olivia Wilde. I’d believe anything coming out of that mouth.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
You, sir, just made me day dream like J.D.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Running is for those who have stolen something. Otherwise it is over-rated.
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
very nice.
I’m Oscar Wilde, and I approve this aphorism.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
As I said you either love it or hate. It’s made my life considerably better and healthier. Make all the cliche jokes you want, it won’t change my POV.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I’m about to take on this new style of running that avoids the heel-strike. I’m intrigued.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I could forefoot strike a little better. I basically mid foot strike until my form breaks down completely. Either way, you could buy shoes that help you forefoot strike (by basically making it painful to heel strike) or buy shoes that make it more comfortable to heel strike.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
You’re welcome to it. And it does give you an advantage if you ever REALLY need a candy bar, but just don’t have the money with you …
I’d rather die at 60, than run every day and die at 70. Kinda like eating healthy – if you remove all the enjoyment from life, why extend it???
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Other than your brief dalliances with being a Pens fan I think we’d get along.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
"Suck it, Phaneuf"
Depends – I am still a Steelers fan, so football season may be difficult. :)
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
i got endorphins man, endogenous morphine, medical poetry, make you love life like you never had it. what you need. come on. just one hit.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
“And when did Jimmy Fixx die? When he was freaking JOGGING, that’s when!!!” — Denis Leary
“Every cigarette takes years off your life. Yeah? Those are the years at the end – the adult-diaper wearing years! You can HAVE those years!” — Also Mr. Leary
Maxime Talbot - in the Orange and Black ... better than chocolate and peanut butter!
by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Jim Fixx – either a.) small sample size or b.) that’s all he did so of course he’d die then.
And don’t disparage diapers until you’ve run a few miles in them. there’s something about that security.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx
I’m not really sure how to respond to the diapers comment.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
diapers is more of a show than tell
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I remember when he died and all the back and forth after that. I was a big runner at the time but the debate didn’t really have an impact on me, because like him I ran because I loved it, it made me feel great, feel better about myself.
And the guy was a massive smoker until he was 35 and had the genetic predisposition. But it made for good, easy humor.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Personal benefits for me:
-When I was single, the girls
-I like to eat whatever the hell I want, that’s one of the reasons I run.
-I love going outside and running new places, it takes me pack to a kid and going on random drives with my dad. Go figure, it’s actually fun for me.
-It helps me deal with my daily stress.
-Every Thursday I get free beer and pizza.
-If Dennis Leary thinks it’s stupid, that’s a win in my book.
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I still whatever the hell I want – I just get fat. I will grant you the stress relief though. And that’s OLD Denis Leary – like mid-90s Leary, not the stupid fireman non-cussin’ and not-funny version we see today.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I never liked Leary.
Also I enjoy being called the skinniest fat person my friends know. I can out eat all my fat friends because there is no fat getting in the way of my stomach expanding (well in the winter I do put on a small layer to keep me warm); I like that benefit as well.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I never liked Leary.
Everyone has faults.
And to each their own – I only stopped working out recently, but I was always more into weight training and swimming than running. Only time I ran was training for sports or military (or when I stole something).
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 6, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
I’d swim and bike if it were more convenient and less expensive. Oddly enough, I run because I’m lazy and cheap.
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Strangest sentence ever put to print.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Yeah, kind of funny how that works haha. It was the quickest, easiest, and cheapest way to lose weight after I got fat in Grad School (the weight finally caught up to me from quitting hockey at the time). People often try to talk me in to gyms or bikes, but I feel claustrophobic in gym’s and don’t feel like paying to feel that, and a decent road bike is fairly expensive when compared to shoes (plus I would end up hitting a tree or car).
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
OMG, I hate a fricken gym. It’s like paying to be stared at and tortured. For that cost, I buy my own equipment and work out in my basement whenever I want, watching old TV show DVDs.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
It’s like paying to be stared at and tortured.
Yeah, I have to say I don’t envy being a girl in a gym. I’m sure it sucks more than I can imagine sometimes.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
And I don’t mean stared at by men. I mean stared at by women, who are an entirely different breed of bitch when it comes to the gym culture.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
isnt that technically a compliment to you though if girls are jealous and staring at you?
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not always why women stare. They stare mainly to be judgemental. They don’t like your choice of clothing (I am not buying expensive stuff just to work out in) or they don’t like they way you look. I once overheard women saying they don’t like going to gyms in the afternoon because they don’t want to see all the fat women. I mean, isn’t that why you should go to the gym? To lose weight?
Stupid, skinny bitches.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Stupid skinny bitches
It’s BSH. Show us some proof.
:-)
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I’m not fat, but I’m not skinny. I used to be realllly skinny in HS and College, but now I’m just normal; however, even when I only weighed 99 lbs, I didn’t just people based on their weight. And I sure as hell am not going to judge someone for trying to do something about their weight, hence making it more likely that they give up due to the bullying than continue to try to better their own health.
I only judge fat professional althetes, because that shit is wrong.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
i was the fat kid up until 10th grade when my weight and frame finally matched up. 5th grade i was 5’0 200lbs…by 10th i was 6’2 185
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
i do have to admit i find it kind of funny when girls wear make up to the gym. and by makeup i mean like going out on a friday night make up
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
It’s fucking stupid. Sorry to all the fourth graders out there. Cover your eyes.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
What 4th graders read BSH?
On second thought, I think I am better off not knowing.
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its not your fault their milkshake doesnt bring all the boys to the yard
by profoundnotions on Feb 6, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Really? Never would have seen that coming.
I hope women at the gym don’t think I’m staring at them. I’m a people-watcher. I look at everyone. Watching people climb is fun. They’re really friggin’ good and I hope I can get to that level someday.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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I love Rescue Me, hate Denis Leary’s standup.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
I was surprised at how good the show was, because the standup was so mediocre. It was such a great show, made almost every other show on TV seem packaged and overplanned. I laughed harder than at any other show, too. I’ve found that comedy is often more effective on TV when it’s tucked inside a drama. Sitcoms can be so static.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed entirely. Both Adam Ferrara and Lenny Clarke are better in the show than on stage. And yet it works for some reason.
Near the end, it was clear Rescue Me had run its course, but the final season really was phenomenal.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm. I’m just the opposite.
Not that this surprises anyone.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Nice. I will be visiting my parents a lot once the new season starts.
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Did that with my buddy and Boardwalk Empire
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I’m also trying to figure out if it’s worth investing enough of my life in to reading the books.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
I’m catching up on the 1st book, trying to decide what I want to do with the second book. I think I might watch the season then read about it
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
The problem is, my friend has spoiled every book thus far…so….is there enough incentive haha.
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My college buddy ruined the end of the 2nd season of Boardwalk Empire for me
I think it’s still worth it, but then outside of the full time work I really dont have other pressing time consuming hobbies or things that need to get done
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m thinking of borrowing Game of Thrones and taking it on the honeymoon since I’ll be flying a ton. If that goes well, then I’ll probably keep going.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Do it. You won’t be disappointed. And if by chance you are, blame CCB.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
why do I get blame here?
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Why not, I figure you’ll appreciate it more. It’ll at least spark a mildly entertaining back and forth.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
fair enough
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
time wise though I don’t think it’s a huge investment. I try to do 20 minutes before bed, and then whatever i get to on the weekend is a bonus
"Start playing with some jam in here"
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 6, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’m halfway through the 3rd book right now. Started the 1st after the season aired (I had never even heard of it before). I just can’t wait to see what happens to the characters, so I gotta move forward storywise.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 6, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
And I hate spoilers and read a lot of tv reviews, so I’m hoping I can be all done with the currently published books before the next season airs.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 6, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well if you are on the 3rd book, there shouldn’t be anything in the 2nd season that screws things up. Unless they aren’t sticking to roughly a season per book (and I thought they’d actually have to split books in to 2 seasons as they moved forward).
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Yea, the reviewers at The AV Club are good about not discussing things in later books, and they even have split their reviews for people who have read the books and those who haven’t, so I’m trying to step up into their ‘expert’ reviews for this new season.
You’re probably right though, that there wont be much, if anything, from the 3rd book.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 6, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Despite all the reasons why the NHL in Seattle is tantalizing the Key Arena is too small for pro hockey. Its seats have more obstruction than a mid-1990s Devils/Panthers game.
hehehehehe
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Anybody happen to know when a game time will be announced for Flyers @ Caps on March 4th? Some schedules say 7:00 PM, some say TBA. And since it’s listed as being on “NBC/NBCSN”, I’m guessing that TBA is the correct answer and it will depend on which network they put it on. But I have no idea when they will make that decision. Makes it hard to determine who wants to go with me and how many tickets I should buy…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I want to say they usually announce which game was picked for the Sunday afternoon game about 2 weeks in advance.
Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 6, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Cool, I figured it was something like that. Just hoping it wasn’t 1 week like college football…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
15 years ago Johnny Vermont had himself a great game. 3 goals and 2 assists against Montreal.
What jumped out to me was the goalies. They were just pups.
Tomas Vokoun (MTL) 10 saves on 14 shots – 20:00 mins
Jose Theodore (MTL) (L) 25 saves on 30 shots – 40:00 mins
S/T to Flyershistory.com
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
"Suck it, Phaneuf"
I feel like Vokoun’s first NHL game he got lit up by the Flyers. But I may just be imagining it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
4 goals in 20 minutes.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
it’s the game listed by @boknows71. According to the box score at flyershistory.com LeClair had 4 goals and two assists. LoD line had 16 points, including 4 goals in which they had all the points.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t know that was the same game.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 6, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Knocked Vokoun out the NHL, took him over a year to get back.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
SNAP.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Ralph Nader is now pen pals with Bettman.
Another voice in the concussion chorus.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions
Here’s some numbers that may or may not be meaningful. I looked at the regular season road records of the SC winners since 1990 (the end of the Canadiens/Islanders/Oilers dynasties).
Seven of the eight worst road records were between 1991 and 2000. Since then, only the Penguins in 2009 were on the list, and theirs was seventh from the bottom.
Bold lines are below .500
2009 Penguins 20-15-6
2000 Devils 17-15-5-4
1998 Wings 19-15-7
1997 Wings 18-14-9
1995 Devils (short season) 8-14-2
1993 Canadiens 21-17-4
1992 Penguins 18-19-3
1991 Penguins 16-21-3
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 6, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions

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