Thursday Morning Fly By: We Talkin' Bout Practice...ing Shootouts?
by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 6:01 AM EST
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...
- Dave takes a look at the Flyers awful history in shootouts and why they have to improve at them: [SB Nation Philly]
- Matt Carle is keeping an eye on contract extensions, while Frank wonders if Carle could get James Wisniewski money: [Daily News]
- Chris Pronger dropped by practice yesterday morning: [Frequent Flyers] [Inquirer] [CSNPhilly] [delcotimes]
- Matt Read is performing like a veteran while only costing a rookie price: [The Checking Line]
- A brief history of 0-0 shootout games in the NHL: [the700level]
- Phantoms injury update including Matt Ford, Garrett Klotz, Matt Walker, and more: [Phantoms Forum]
- Red Wings v. Maple Leafs at Michigan Stadium will be announced today: [SBNation.com] [Puck Daddy] [Backhand Shelf]
- Vinny Prospal signed a one-year, $3.5 million extension with Columbus, possibly taking him off the trade market: [The Cannon] [SBNation.com]
- Good look at just how great Ken Holland was at drafting from 1997-2005: [The Copper & Blue]
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Hey again everyone
Decided to stay off SBN completely while the ‘Giants just won the SB! Eli is the greatest eva!’ fest was going on (it still is, but the worst is over I hope).
Thought I would share this: I was playing NHL 12 Be a GM and as always was looking for trade partners for Bryzgalov (NHL 12 lacks NMCs; so this is a remote possibility). Now I’ve been very persistent in offerring Bryzgalov to various trade partners. But I always get the same story: ’we’re not in the market for a goalie at the moment’, ’we’re too close to the salary cap’, ’we’re looking for some young players’, ‘we don’t want to part with this guy we’ve got here’ etc. etc. Then somehow in February before the deadline Pekka Rinne got injured for 3 months. Now this was a Nashville team who was in playoff push mode. They had two stud defenders on the last year of their deal and were searching for veteran talent to carry them through. They now also needed a goalie.
So I had a masterful plan. I offer them a trade they can’t refuse: Ilya Bryzgalov + Matt Walker for Calvin Pickard (19-year-old former 2nd round draft pick who was their backup at the time). Initially I had other defensive pieces coming back but Nashville resisted so I ended up with that deal. They decided to run away laughing.
But I have the last laugh. They now have 12 million in goaltending, and have no chance of offering anything decent to Suter/Weber. I now have extra cap space. So essentially I’m going to throw all that money at one of those two and Nashville will end up losing out! They didn’t see that coming at all!
What’s the point of this post? The point of this post ladies and gentlemen is that no we’re not going to trade Bryz anywhere. I heard some people suggesting such a thing in the outside world (not sure if such a thing was discussed on BSH at all) and it was ridiculous. Made me want to pull my hair out. So here we go.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 9, 2012 6:53 AM EST reply actions
If only life were a video game and you could dupe your trade partners.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
So.....
I wonder who will play the part of the Swiss Cheese tonight for the Flyers?
Also seeing how they are playing the Leafs I guess the game will be blacked out on DTV Center Ice.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
Yep, just confirmed it. Game is blacked out on DTV.
I have no idea why every time the Flyers play the Leafs in NHL Network it’s blacked out for me. My guess is it’s Ed Snider’s fault.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
Every Flyers game that it is on NHL Network is always blacked out for me.
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
by LegionofDoom on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I’m glad to see that Toronto is playing in the Winter Classic next year…. hopefully this opens the door for more Canadian teams, even if they aren’t the “Original 6” teams.
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I'm not.
Let the Canadian teams play in the Heritage Classic. Keep the Winter Classic American.
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by BannedStreetBully on Feb 9, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Why?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
Why not? I like the idea of two outdoor games, one for the 7 canadian teams to switch around, one for the American teams. It’s not like in the end anyone really cares who wins the game, it’s more about just being in it. It’s fun to play a rivalry game in the showcase event.
That being said, I like having Toronto in the Winter Classic, but I’d prefer Toronto-Montreal being the Heritage and some other combo for winter classic
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I don’t like the idea of two outdoor games – it kind of eliminates the notion of the Winter Classic being a “showcase” event, doesn’t it? – and I really don’t like the idea of separating Canadian hockey teams from American hockey teams.
But I wanted to know why someone wants to keep Canadian teams out of the Winter Classic. I mean, why should we have Tampa Bay – Washington a possibility, but Montreal – Boston an impossibility?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
I am with Geoff I don’t care who plays in the game as long as it is a rivalry game in a cool (pun intended) venue.
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by Clutterbuck4MVP on Feb 9, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
100% agreed. I could understand NBC not wanting two Canadian teams in the WC together; but cross-border rivalries should definitely be included. Montreal/Boston would be amazing.
I think they might be in talks to re-do the roof on Olympic stadium in Montreal, so if they could time it to hold it there while the old roof is taken off, it could work.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
My sarcasm detector is off this morning, so I’m not sure if this was sarcasm or a serious response…
I’ve been in it when there wasn’t a baseball game going on, and I don’t think it’s anywhere near as bad as some people make it out to be. It was way too big for baseball and clearly wasn’t designed for that, but it’s actually a neat building and it’s perfectly good for other things.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Let me crack an egg of knowledge here: Canada is in America. “American” includes over 20 independent nations.
In a sport in which the majority of the players are NOT from the United States, how do you suggest to “keep the Winter Classic [USA]”?
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I do believe he was going for the colloquial usage, not the dictionary definition, Mr. Semantics. :-p
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I understand that, but the colloquial usage is incorrect.
Also, I don’t understand how/why one would try to isolate the nation where the majority of the players in the NHL call home.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s because there’s a difference in marketing the game to “United States” fans, where the interest can still be built up (because honestly, do you need to market the game to Candians, it is a publicity stunt when it comes down to it) and basically giving a treat to the Canadian-born players by letting them play in their home country.
I don’t think anyone is really trying to “isolate” the outdoor game from Candian fans, as they staged an outdoor game between two Candian teams last decade before the lockout and still proceeded to have the Heritage Classic co-exist with the Winter Classic. Couple that with the fact that Toronto is likely playing Detroit in next year’s game and I can’t really see where you think the NHL is trying to isolate Canada.
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by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I would argue that your usage of incorrect is incorrect.
1: an American Indian of North America or South America
2: a native or inhabitant of North America or South America
3: a citizen of the United States
—Merriam-Webster
1.of or pertaining to the United States of America or its inhabitants: an American citizen.
2.of or pertaining to North or South America; of the Western Hemisphere: the American continents.
3.of or pertaining to the aboriginal Indians of North and South America, usually excluding the Eskimos, regarded as being of Asian ancestry and marked generally by reddish to brownish skin, black hair, dark eyes, and prominent cheekbones.
—dictionary.com
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
3. Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples.
4. Indigenous to North or South America. Used of plants and animals.
—The American Heritage Dictionary
If the vast majority of people use the term that way and major dictionaries recognize it as a correct usage, what exactly makes you declare it to be incorrect?
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Perhaps I mis-typed. “American” is imprecise, not incorrect.
To your point though, we could have an argument all day about whether the fact that something is in the dictionary makes it the perferred usage – or not.
Consider “ain’t.” It is defined in the dictionary. Does that make it preferred grammar? Look it up.
How about nuclear? Is it pronounced “noo-kleer” or “nook-you-ler?”
Simply because so many people have done something wrong doesn’t mean we should change the rules to make it correct.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Usage that is not preferred is not necessarily incorrect.
But more to the point, language evolves. The goal of language is to communicate, not to set strict rules to separate the educated from the uneducated — when new forms are easily understood and useful, they are widely adopted, and without exception there are people decrying the new forms.
Do you religiously avoid using words like contact, focus, party, rain, snow, oil, bottle, diagnose, or close as a verb? Or do you only accept the changing of rules that happened before you were born, despite the great outcry against the bastardization of the language that accompanied those changes?
As far as pronunciation goes, Bill Bryson has argued that the best current model we have for Shakespearean English is Yosemite Sam. Is that how you speak? Do you correct everyone around you who does not speak that way?
What do you propose as the demonym? Are we to be called United Statesians?
Get over it. Language is for communication, not stratification.
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Ah, language. One of my favorite topics. Language is a living, breathing entity and needs allowance for growth and modification. I love me some new words.
I do not love words like “shopportunity,” and other marketing speak, but stuff like ginormous? Fantastic.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
I don’t really like stuff like ginormous (into which category I will put “guesstimate”). But just because I’m not going to use it doesn’t mean I’m going to declare my usage superior and correct or look down on those who do adopt the common form.
Except when Geoff fails to use forms that would be considered acceptable in the most formal publications. But that’s not really about language then, is it?
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Where do you stand on things like “craptacular” and “sh**fest”? :-)
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Or shit ton?
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I love that one. Also, f**kton. Or just about anything with f*** in front of it.
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Why the *. Are you trying to get away from cursing?
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Or just about anything with f*** in front of it.
Oh, so many places you can go with that quote.
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I like to think when students refer to their “f*cking books” they mean the Kama Sutra.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I dislike a lot of the new made-up words that the popular media uses. They feel too trendy and fake to me, or like they’re trying too hard to sound cool. Like [scandal]-gate, [social media]-sphere, or [sports team]-Nation. I didn’t even like the word “blog” for a long time. There are plenty of portmanteaux that I do like, but a lot I just think are silly. But that’s me.
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I think all new made up words sound fake to the older generation. At some point way into the future, they will most likely no longer sound that way because today’s children will have grown up with them.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
True. I’m well aware that I dislike these words because I’m getting older.
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Some of them are particularly short-lived though.
You didn’t see any headlines referring to the 0-0 tie* as the Goalpocalypse or Scoremageddon.
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Well now we will, thanks. :-p
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Snowmageddon was the snowstorms we had up here a few years ago. It was so stupid but still gave me a chuckle.
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I’m not sure what you’re to be called. I’m a dual citizen of the United States of America and Canada.
You’re right, language is about communication, and the usage of “American” is unclear. Even the definitions you were kind enough to post indicate that point. The fact that there are three or more definitions listed from each of the sources show that the word can be used for various meanings.
Add to that that none of the sources agree which should be usage number one, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to use citizen of USA (or Canada or Mexico) over American, or to ask that others do.
Of course it was a trolling post, but I think we all realized that already.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Was it unclear?
Let me crack an egg of knowledge here: Canada is in America. "American" includes over 20 independent nations.
I do believe he was going for the colloquial usage
I understand that
Was your objection that his usage was so unclear that nobody was sure what he meant? That’s not how I read it.
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Of course it was a trolling post, but I think we all realized that already.
I’m finished debating. I will not be taking questions.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, I’m confused. Which post was the trolling post, the one where you corrected someone with your egg of knowledge, or the one where I disputed your correction?
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I gotta go with matt on this one. Just to give some perspective, at my school (Cambridge, UK) there is a far over representation of Canadians. If people ask me where I’m from, and I say “America,” they assume that I mean Canada unless I say otherwise.
So yeah, it is a rather vague term even when it comes down to colloquial usage. Still, I’m not going to start a campaign for using “United States” instead.
I agree that “America” as a noun can refer to the entirety of the North and South American continents. But “American” is actually the demonym for a person from the USA. Even in German, the country is Vereinigte Staaten (von Amerika), but a person from there is ein(e) Amerikaner(in).
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Neither. It’s “New-clee-Arr”.
And yes – “American” does mean Western Hemisphere technically speaking. Although more common is the expression ‘the Americas’ when talking about the whole hemisphere; individuals are not commonly referred to as “Americans” unless they are citizens of the US. They’re called ‘Canadians’ or ‘Brazilians’ or whatever applies. Why? Dunno, honestly – other than saying ‘United States of American’ takes too damn long, and “asshole” isn’t socially acceptable.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
"asshole" isn’t socially acceptable.
Debateable.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Most ‘Americans’ wouldn’t agree – they dislike being called ‘assholes’ even though they’re traveling through Europe wearing black socks and Tevas and complaining they can’t get a decent cheeseburger.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahaha
I was amused that in Croatia people seemed to think I was German. However, the customs officers took one look at my passport and told me not to worry, Bin Laden wasn’t there. :-p
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I always got funny looks from the border control people when I traveled; I usually had Austrian plates on the car, so when they saw the blue passport they looked at me quizzically. I had one Italian patrolman ask if I had dual citizenship, and just used the US passport to get around the taxation and importation laws.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
oh, you arnt supposed to do that?
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That is entirely up to … asshole. :)
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
lol…i would be the tourist every1 hated, saying how much better this or that is in america
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"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux
You wouldn’t be saying that about the food in many places. Or the booze. My Lord, the wine in France and Italy! Sooooo good.
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not a wine person, tastes like rotten grapes to me
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the food is why i love america, its a culmination of so many different cultures all boiled down into a cheesy butter fried goodness
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?!?!
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by doubleh on Feb 9, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ive probably tasted10 or 15 different wines and they all taste the same….same with beer seriously i cant tell the differents between coors and heinekin,yuengling,landshark….i can only tell guiness apart from other beers only because its not beer, but just barely.i drink rum, whiskey,anything fruity, ammaretto, and baily’s. thats it
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Go to Belgium, have some beer; though for some reason I doubt you’d enjoy or appreciate it outside of the whole it’s strong thing.
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Don, I’ve had some (American) “Belgian-style Abbey Ales” lately that I think you would enjoy.
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There are several American breweries that make wonderful Belgian style beer right now. Honestly, outside the stuff I have been aging, I haven’t had an actual Belgian beer in a while.
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I actually really like Blue Moon’s Winter Abbey Ale. Best product in their line, IMO.
But there’s a brewery in Baltimore, Heavy Seas, that has a Belgian abbey ale called Holy Sheet that I am completely in love with.
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I don’t drink Coors products hahaha.
Is that Clipper City? I believe I’ve had it and it’s pretty good stuff.
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My problem with the US-belgian style beers is that they seem to think it should taste like bubble gum. That’s not actually the defining feature, although the characteristics of Belgian beers does bring out more of the hops character than the flavor, if I’m not mistaken (and Don can correct me; I’m a drinker not a brewer).
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
My problem with the US-belgian style beers is that they seem to think it should taste like bubble gum.
You must be drinking the bad ones haha.
That’s not actually the defining feature
The defining feature about Belgian beer is it’s diversity IMO. Beer with more hops in the taste is a relatively new thing for brewers over there (not that they aren’t aware, just something you didn’t see often). Now you will see bitter ales over there. It’s an interesting evolution.
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I love wheat and malt, not so much hops. :-p
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just something you didn’t see often
Allow me to rephrase, it’s not something that jumps out in the taste; the tastes typically focused on other areas.
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Yes – that’s more what I meant to say, and said much more succinctly.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t mean the sharp hoppiness that US brewers love (and I do NOT). I meant that by playing with the hops varieties they create the different textures of their Belgian Beers. But like I said, I don’t know for sure.
I’m more of a toasted malt guy myself.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
My bad. Yeah they play with variety of pretty much everything. Hops I’m slightly less familiar with as far as what their general variety used is there, but I would assume it to be much like their other ingredients….varied.
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All that means is you’ve only ever had American wine.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Now I take issue with that. I’ve had some very good American wine. And some very shitty American wine. You can find good and bad everywhere.
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Fair – I actually do drink some PA wines as well.
But really – the Sonoma Valley wines outside of the whites are not very good. And the MidAtlantic reds all have a vague taste of mud, with a harsher mouthfeel.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
MidAtlantic reds are not good, but I’ve had some good reds from Sonoma. They are harder to find and you need to pay attention to the year and grape, but they are there.
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Just not worth it – when I can get an very good Chilean or South African or New Zealand red wine for under $20, why bother with the American ones that are so hit-or-miss?
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I do love me some South American red wine, that’s for sure.
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I don’t care for most of the S African wines I’ve had, so I’d say you get hit-or-miss lots of places.
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Hmph – I have yet to try one I disliked. They do tend to be a bit dry and singular in note, but definitely smooth and easy to pair.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
In my experience, Mid-Atlantic can make nice whites (esp. VA Chardonnay), but good reds are harder to find. Though there is a winery in VA I visited this fall that had spectacular Italian-style reds. But I’m not sure where they get their grapes. I’ve had good reds and whites from CA and Columbia Valley (Washington/Oregon).
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I don’t drink wine, but I lived in Oregon for five years and had five years of blah blah blah Pinot blah blah blah blah Pinot blah blah Pinot.
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That must have been the late ’90s right? Everyone was on the Pinot kick then. Then it was Syrahs. Then I stopped listening and went with what I liked instead.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
No, it was ’05 to ’10. The sense I got was that Oregon Pinots were supposed to be particularly good (though like I say, I have no idea personally).
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Pinot Noir. Now there’s a hit-or-miss wine.
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Truth. From what I hear, the grape is a bitch to grow. But if you can get it right, it’s amazing.
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Yeah, but it’s like finding your Prince. You have to kiss so many goddamn frogs.
If you find one you really like, please recommend.
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My memory is a bit fuzzy, and I’m going to start keeping a wine notebook for this reason, but three that readily come to mind are Parducci, Jargon, and, believe it or not, Barefoot. All from CA, all fairly cheap. If you’ve ever been to Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, Parducci is where they get their “exclusive blend” Pinot Noir, and a bottle at the store is cheaper than a glass at the restaurant, and just as good.
Cellar No. 8 is also sticking in my mind, but I forget if I’ve had their Pinot, or just their Zinfandel. They are possibly my favorite Zinfandel.
I’m just looking at google results for “pinot noir california” to try to jog my memory. Smoking Loon also sounds familiar, but I’m not sure. The three I listed above, however, I’m certain I had and liked. Jargon may be my favorite.
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I feel dirty for liking Pinot Noir as much as I do, and it’s entirely the fault of that stupid movie Sideways. Worst movie ever.
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nah my girlfriends parents are the cultured type so they get allkinds of wine from family they have overseas. it all tastes the same to em, which is the taste of rotten fermented grapes
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You just haven’t developed a palate for it, yet. Took me a long time to get into reds.
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well im 22 cant drink any beer and wines cause they all taste nasty to me…my palate is in a permenant pre pubescent state
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I didn’t like beer until I was 25 and on a trip to Germany. Now I drink it all the time.
White Zin was the first wine I liked, then I very slowly moved from sweet stuff to drier stuff. It does take time to develop.
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Just more evidence that I’m strange – I started out drinking gin at 13. I also always liked the dry red wines more than sweeter ones, and only found a love for beer once I tried Moosehead (at the time, one of the few imports you could get).
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I adored the wine in Slovenia. I wish they exported it.
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They can’t – it’s mostly antifreeze. :)
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
And I DEFINITELY take issue with that! You and I are about to have words, sir!
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Words!
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Old joke about Hungarian wine is that you make it by blending grape vinegar and antifreeze. No offense to Slovenia. Never been, never (to my recollection) had their wine.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hehehe. Well if you can ever find it (doubtful, since they don’t export, as I said), I highly recommend Refošk. One of the nicest reds I’ve ever had, every one I tried was phenomenal.
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“don’t export” is a challenge. You may pay through the nose for it, but you can absolutely get anything you want eventually. It just needs to pass US Customs, which for alcohol usually means registering it with the PA Liquor Control Board (for me at least) which ain’t cheap. But if they make it, you can get it.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yep – you’d be the guy walking out of the Howard Johnsons in downtown Vienna, asking me for directions in English … and I’d respond in German that I didn’t understand.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
The Maple Leafs have 8 US born players on their roster this year, and we have 4 (5 if you count Scooter, but he chooses to play for Canada). 2 of those 5 did not play in the WC and were with the Phantoms at the time.
Does that mean we didn’t deserve to be in the WC?
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure on your point here. Were you addressing me?
Frankly, I think every team in the NHL deserves to be in the Winter Classic..
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
No, I was just being facetious, and piggy-backed it off what you said.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Samsies.
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I think 24/7 suffers from this match-up, if it’s even brought back at all. Love the idea of it being played at Michigan though.
You don’t want to see Ron Wilson deal with the media or Brian Burke go on rants about Don Cherry? I agree, it’s no Crosby/Ovechkin or Laviolette/Bryzgalov/Tortorella, but I look forward to seeing just how good Mike Babcock is, who Zetterberg/Datsyuk are (and Lidstrom if he plays another year), and how the Maple Leafs deal with Toronto.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I’m at least as interested in Toronto/Detroit as I was Caps/Penguins. Obviously it’s got nothing on having my own team be part of 24/7, but any half decent matchup and I’m in. There’s too much fascinating behind the scenes stuff to not watch it, IMO.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t there a big stink about how much access the Red Wings would even grant? The mini 36 hours thing on w/e Versus is now called following Lidstrom was pretty cool hopefully they allow a lot. Either way I’d rather see two teams that really, really hate each other though watching Zetterberg/Datsyuk sounds pretty awesome.
As far as watching two teams that hate each other, you will see that over the course of the 4 shows, when Detroit and Toronto play their rivals. For the game itself, I find it to be generally disappointing hockey, so I think I prefer it to be a slightly less meaningful game.
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Yeah, this is a good point. We’ll still see two teams that hate each other, it just will be dependent on the schedule and not the Winter Classic matchup.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Funny that they announce this one so soon, yet they waited until the season was well underway to confirm that the Jan 2nd Flyers/Rangers game was the Winter Classic this year. Either way, it was rumored/leaked well before the announcement, so the league still sucks at keeping secrets.
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Yeah, this announcement is really early compared to others. The Boston and Pittsburgh ones were announced (or at least the press conferences held) over the summer.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Weren’t there logistics with Citizens Bank Park that delayed the announcement of this year’s WC?
Everyone knew it was happening, but they couldn’t make it official until the ink was dry on certain paperwork.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 9, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Also, I’m betting the site is going to crash again today, I’ve already had a number of times where it takes me 4-5 attempts to get a comment to post.
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Oh, and now I’m getting the archives say there are new comments when there really aren’t any bug. And new comment notifications when I write something that are collapsed and appear twice. Brace for impact, everyone.
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Normally if you look at the SBNation network status page, it’d go like 2 weeks without anything being reported. Now you can see that things are going wrong network wide every couple of days. And of course, those are the ‘announced’ glitches and outages, so tiny little ones still happen that never make it there.
I think they migrated to new servers or something, but hopefully they get all these kinks worked out soon.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
its anonymous…they heard i dislike them
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A) What is up with the fanposts? I’m only seeing the top two? Anyone else?
2) I did a Jagr shirt last night that’s in the FanShots. Hopefully it will be available soon.
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OT – did you notice the Brooks Brothers ad on the homepage today?
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
What ads?
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Nope. Not sure I had it. I had one the other day though.
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Saw one on the main page, and then one in the sidebar. Wondered if it was related to our conversation – ‘smart advertising’ or something, where phrases get pulled by SB Nation and directed advertising gets sold.
I was gonna complain.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Cookies, pf. The spiders are crawling through your cookies. That’s how the ads get pulled up.
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Bugs in the cookie jar? Time to clean Pooh out then.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously…that freakin’ design took me 4 hours. No comments?
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I commented on facebook. It’s awesome.
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You did. I appreciated that.
Honestly I wasn’t fishing for praise either. I mean I was expecting when I put it up for everyone to say “It doesn’t look like him!” or something. I guess I’ll take the lack of comment as a mark of acceptance.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 9, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Continuing yesterday’s OT thought: Now the Washington Post wrote an article that the Maryland QB is “on the verge of leaving”, citing “individuals with knowledge of the situation.” I guarantee that “individuals with knowledge of the situation” means that single tweet, later refuted by the QB himself, that claimed he was transferring. The WaPo has a history of using vague wording to turn one person/source into something that sounds like a lot of people.
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This was an interesting article this morning:
http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2012/2/8/2784263/ducks-expected-to-quack-for-schultz#storyjump
If this kid goes with “Option 3”, Homer bet be making the first call to sign him. He is to college hockey what Pronger/ Lidstrom/ Suter/ et.al. are to the NHL.
is holmgren allowed to talk to this kid since he isnt an nhl player?
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If Schultz opts to become a UFA, Homer can talk to him on July 1. A highly touted prospect at 925k/ year for two years.
but he cant give him a call right now?
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ahhh say one of holmgrens non business partner friends talks to him, without holmgrens knowledge of course…is that illegal
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Having an east coast game and then a west coast game back to back on the NBC sports network was nice last night. Wish they would do that more.
I feel like they used to do it more often, before they tried to add Postgame shows/NBC Sportstalk/NHL Overtime stuff after the 7:30 game. I liked having the second game better, too.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I thought they did it more as well, but I may just be imagining TCN showing San Jose games.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I think TCN still does that, I haven’t been paying attention though. Point was I thought Vs used to do a double feature quite a bit more than they do now.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I noticed that more during the play-offs, but I also didn’t watch Vs much without Flyers or play-off hockey.
by mattsotheran on Feb 9, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I no longer have Comcast :(
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think you meant :).
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Nope. I have never had a problem with Comcast.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve had many, so I’m happy to be free. Sorry, Ed.
But of course, experiences vary.
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Yeah, I mean, I was looking forward to FiOS, but it’s not available where I’m moving to. So I’m stuck with Cox (I refuse to get DirecTV), and I’ve heard bad things about them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
you like Cox?
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Haven’t experienced it yet.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m sorry but that was hilarious.
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Couldn’t agree more.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 9, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
well let us know how you like Cox when you try them, i just hope you dont get bent over by them……
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I’ve never had any issues with them either, at least not that weren’t very easily fixed, but I had a ton of problems when I had Verizon for phone and DSL. FiOS looks like it’s never going to be installed in my town, so Comcast is my only viable option.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
It’s my fault you moved….
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s a question. why did it take so long to announce Rangers/Flyers winter classic. but they immediately announce Wings/Leafs?
This is totally speculation, but I’d guess that there may be less groups that they have to negotiate with for a college stadium and the papers were less complicated. For CBP, I figure that they had to deal with all the groups that are contracted to do certain types of work at the stadium, and that could be less of an issue out there.
I was at an event at the ballpark several years ago where during cleanup a simple task needed to be done, but because no one from the group contracted to do that specific task was available, nobody at the ballpark was permitted to help us get the task accomplished.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Brrr
It is freaking cold today. I know it’s winter but I was enjoying the moderate weather. This cold has got to go.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
I agree. My philosophy is simple: snow validates cold weather. If it’s not going to snow, it might as well be warm. Cold weather without snow is just cruel.
Yesterday’s “storm” was a joke. I can’t believe the county canceled evening activities (I was supposed to be playing volleyball) for that. And the federal government let employees go home early. Absolute nonsense. Everybody freaked out and nothing happened, just like the forecast said. So there was no snow, get back to being 60°.
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It snowed here, but only about an inch. It started melting early this morning but of course the kids all had two-hour delays today. Bah.
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The dreaded 2 hour delay. That is just a pain in the ass for everyone involved.
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Esp for AM Kindergarten. He’s there for 1 hr 45 mins. Not even worth getting dressed IMO.
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I failed kindergarten.
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I never finished kindergarten.
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How does that work?
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Mom was sick. I was in K in Montana. Mom got better, I went home. Nobody gave a crap in 1977.
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Man, I wish they would’ve let me just stay home with my mom or grandmother, it would’ve been easier on everybody. I hated Kindergarten because I was bored, and it drove my teacher crazy.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I felt that way from K-4th. Then I finally got sent to nerd school, rather than my neighborhood school. It all got better :)
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kindergarten for me was knowing how to read and do math when my classmates didn’t know the alphabet and couldn’t recognize squares and circles. First grade would have been just as bad, but we had a girl in our class who spoke absolutely no English, so my teacher just sat me in the corner with her to teach her the language and that kept me busy. By second grade they started separating us into groups and it wasn’t so bad anymore.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Kindergarten for me was knowing how to read and do math when my classmates didn’t know the alphabet and couldn’t recognize squares and circles.
Samsies. Not certain about the math, but I remember the teacher letting me read to the class at story time. :-p
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god damn geniuses in here making me feel stupid…..i coulda skipped 3rd and 4th grade but i was literally the smallest kid in my school so my parents didnt want me to be picked on 2 much
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Meh, I didn’t read until end of 1st grade. I wasn’t stupid. Everyone learns at their own pace.
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Everyone learns at their own pace.
ding ding ding! Some people put too much stock in that stuff.
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i didnt read read until like second then in 3rd and 4th started reading things like lord of the flies…doesnt make for a sociable life when kids around you talk pokemon when your talking about the portrayal society without rules will eventually return from chaos
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j reed, i know you have some pics for my last sentence, do you accept the challenge?
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Kindergarten for me was knowing how to read and write and do math already, while my classmates were working on identifying shapes.
Then again, since I went to public school in the City, that’s kinda what 4th grade was like too.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t have one :’( I wish I did. Though they suck, I like the extra sleep though
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by Cillo stache on Feb 9, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
People got sent home yesterday? I can sorta understand the evening cancellations (although I heard very few announced), but I didn’t hear about anybody getting sent home early by me
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
This was in DC. To avoid people morons abandoning their cars all over the city in the snow like they did last February. But in that storm, the forecast said “blizzard conditions from 4-8 PM, snow falling at 2-3 inches per hour” and nobody listened, so rush hour was a nightmare. For this storm, the forecast was “mixed rain/snow showers, no accumulation”, and they freaked out just as a precaution. They put down a ton of salt yesterday too. Completely unnecessary.
This is how things work here. We get a couple weak storms in a row that do nothing, so we get lazy in storm prep, then we get hammered once (or twice) and are unprepared, so then we overreact to the next few storms after that.
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On that second part, Philly certainly isn’t much different. It takes a little more for people to completely freak out and lose their minds about driving (although the tiniest threat of snow and good luck finding bread or milk on the shelves in the stores), but we definitely do let our guard down sometimes and then get hammered.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
A single flake in the air here and everyone forgets how to drive. It’s amazing. Nobody would go over 20 mph last night, and it was just raining lightly at the time.
And I hear you about the grocery store. A couple years ago, I needed to pick up leeks for some recipe and there was a storm coming. I fully expected things like bread, milk, drinks, etc to be decimated as people stocked up for the storm, but I didn’t need those, all I needed was leeks. But the produce section was completely bare. Leeks! Who stocks up on leeks?!
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Haha, that’s funny because I use them a lot, but I feel like leeks are one of those items that most people never buy or just don’t know what to do with them. But I think it would be less frustrating to get there and have the section be completely bare than to arrive and have a bin full of leeks that are in such bad shape that they aren’t worth paying for.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I fall into the category of don’t know what to do with them. I have one amazing chili recipe that calls for them, that’s it.
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Simply steamed and then with a lemony hollandaise.
Leek and mushroom soup.
Chicken breast stuffed with leeks and gruyere.
Need I go on?
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
If you ever end up with extra and you’re the type to make homemade chicken stock, or the type to cheat and take store bought broth and add veggies to it and let it steep for a little while before making soup with it; they’re awesome to help round out the stock’s flavor. When I buy leeks and end up with too many I stick the extras in the freezer to add in the next time I make soup.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
nice, good tip
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Oh, and for the record, anybody who has ever had a vegetable that they aren’t sure what to do with needs to own a copy of the Joy of Cooking. The vegetable section tells you how to pick out good specimens at the store, how to wash them, and 3-5 recipes for every one. Probably the most useful 100 pages of any cookbook I’ve ever seen, and the chapters for every fruit and each type of meat or shellfish or baked goods are just as handy. I learned to cook hundreds of things straight from my italian grandmothers, but there is no household on either side of my family that doesn’t own a well-loved copy of that book for reference.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
That and Betty Crocker are my two staple cookbooks.
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I actually don’t have the Betty Crocker ones, but I do remember my grandmother having them. I love all my specialized cookbooks I’ve acquired over the years, but when it comes down to it and somebody told me I could only keep 2 out of the many books I own, it’s my copy of Joy and my huge King Arthur Flour cookbook. Even if I never made a single recipe out of my copy of JoC, the information sections are more than worth the price of the book.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm … I’d keep “Robuchon” and “Homes and Gardens”. Betty Crocker I could pass on, although I do own it.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I use “Better Homes and Gardens” for a lot of general reference stuff. I have some other specialized ones I like, but after BH&G, my “365 Cocktails” book is probably the one I pick up most. Oh, and maybe the waffles cookbook. :-p
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I’m a big fan of the Cooking Light cookbooks for recipes, but the BHG cookbook I have in my collection is seriously old school. No photos or anything. Was hard to use, lol.
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That’s why I like it – no fluff. Just instructions.
I guess it depends on your ‘use’ of the cookbook – I don’t personally need a photo to know what browned butter sauce should look like when it’s done; someone who’s maybe never made it before certainly would.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I just like photographic representations of the finished product. It makes the book more interesting to me. Sort of like how I like numbers to be represented with graphs or other visual representation. It’s just how I roll.
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Again with the silly non-maths people.
THIS is why my plan sets are three times longer than necessary – too damn many architectural drawings with pretty flowers and shit; I can simply list the species and spacing and call it done.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Incorrect. I am very good at math. I just don’t like it. Pictures of food are awesome.
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Didn’t say you weren’t ‘good’ at math. But realistically, those who ‘like’ it (to borrow your distinction) can ‘see’ the graph without it being there, just by looking at the column of numbers or the defining equation.
And yes, I am VERY biased. My mother is a calculus professor, with a masters in theoretical mathematics. My dad is a regional plan modeler/programmer. My brother works in the theoretical physics lab at Penn. And I’m an engineer. Numbers kinda run in the family – we used to get mathematical puzzles in our stockings at Xmas.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not good at math, by which I mean I’m extremely slow at simple arithmetic. I don’t trust myself and have to recheck it in my head several times.
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i cant get past intermediate algebra:(
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No architect likes drawing ductwork plans though. In school they only taught us how to draw pretty pictures, so in the real world why would we want to do anything else.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 9, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Don’t get me wrong – in the planning phase there’s definitely a need for the pretty pictures. But once I’ve taken the ‘artists depiction’ and boiled it down to construction plans and specifications, I do wish I’d be left alone to construct it.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been doing a lot of non-architectural work the past two years, and it’s definitely eye opening, but I miss school so bad sometimes.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 9, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
well then what the hell do i use a dragon fruit for. some1 gave one to me and i have no idea what to do with it
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Basically any recipe that calls for rhubarb, you can substitute the dragonfruit in and get a more distinct flavor.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
is it ok to just bite into?
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No – it’s like kiwi; you only eat the fleshy part inside.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
You can eat kiwi whole, actually, just most people don’t like the fuzzy skin.
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You can eat kiwi whole
Maybe you can. I need to take bites.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, most people on here would’ve gone with a “that’s what Todd said” reply, I guess.
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Braised fennel and leeks with bacon looks yummy:
http://www.stephencooks.com/2008/02/braised-fennel.html
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Eww – fennel tastes like ass. I have never understood the obsession with adding fennel or anise to things. It’s one of the few flavors that I absolutely never eat.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
the bulb looks kind of like ass too. it grows wild in my neighborhood – i eat it at least once a week.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
You’d never fit in with my family… We tend to eat fennel raw (dipped in olive oil that’s been seasoned with salt and pepper, of course), and I go through several bottles of anise oil between the pizzelles and zuccarines I have to make every Christmas.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ooh, I haven’t tried making anise pizzelles…
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But that’s the traditional flavor, so I’m confused. Even though we have our own recipe, the main, basic pizzelle recipe on the insert from my pizzelle iron is the anise flavored one.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm…interesting. I think the basic recipe on mine is vanilla. But we typically make chocolate (sometimes chocolate-orange) or hazelnut. It’s also possible that my wife just skips the anise because she doesn’t like it and I’ve never noticed it’s in the recipe.
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/scoffs
Unless they’re specifically clarified as another variety, the word pizzelle is supposed to imply the anise flavor. I mean, I make chocolate ones too, and my grandfather and I have made almond, orange, and even lemon in the past upon request, but prepping for Christmas for me is to make like 8 batches of anise and maybe 3 batches of chocolate.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you just aren’t making traditional pizzelles, or really pizzelles at all anymore IMO. I’m not a big anise guy, but when christmas comes around, and I smell them when I’m at my parents, I go through them pretty quick.
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I found the manual online, the basic recipe says vanilla extract or anise extract. So she’s just always chosen vanilla. I never knew!
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I think you need to distinguish at this point between Italian … and Italian-American. My understanding is that pizzelles come in many flavors, including hazelnut and almond, in traditional cooking.
We must remember that most Italian-Americans hate the food in Italy.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I’m also not Italian, so I don’t have family recipes to teach me the difference. :-p
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Once in my previous marriage, we invited my South Philly in-laws for dinner. Served them spaghetti. Father-in-law raved and congratulated my wife about how good the ‘gravy’ was, and how the homemade pasta made it even better. Wifey (bless her) managed to tell her father that she hadn’t even been home until a few minutes before dinner was served – I cooked it all. They were somehow less effusive knowing that a squarehead made better Eyetailian food than they did.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
What, that’s what they are supposed to be, and you shouldn’t stop with anise oil, you should add anise seeds to it as well.
My mom has her iron from like 50 years ago; I hope it’s still working for when I get to have it.
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This.
And you must find anise oil, not that crummy extract in the grocery store. It isn’t strong enough.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Gross. My ex-wife was also Italian-American, and they made those nasty pizzelle things every holiday, I think just to torture me. But I could easily respond – being ethnically Austrian, I like pastry with lekvar in it. And most people aren’t crazy about prunes like the Austrians and Hungarians are.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
The one’s with anise…I’m with you on that. Anise takes like it has a medicinal purpose. Like spleen cleaner. But there are lemon flavored pizzelles that are quite nice.
I liked the almond ones – but since they look EXACTLY like the nasty-ass anise ones, the risk factor was way too high for the rewards.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve always been amused that people are so highly polarized by fennel/anise/black licorice. I happen to love it, but most of the rest of my family doesn’t. So that meant the black jellybeans were all mine. Good times.
And now I want to make pfeffernusse. Darn you.
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that meant the black jellybeans were all mine
More power to ya. I wouldn’t eat them if the choice was between them and cowchips.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
cowchip jellybeans. the dessert course after prairie oysters.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Prarie oysters I’ll eat (actually kinda happily). Anise, no way in hell.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
scrapple?
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Duh.
My household goes through about a pound a week on average. No exaggeration.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Just checking. Another polarizing food item.
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The list of foods I won’t eat is extremely short – but anise is one of them. So’s marshmallow, actually.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
I hate it also, but for some reason fennel doesn’t bother me the way anise/licorice/sambuca does.
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Mmm, sambuca. There’s a fantastic greek/lebanese/turkish mezze (like tapas or dim sum) restaurant in DC that offers ouzo, arak, and raki, which are the traditional anise-flavored drinks from those three countries, respectively. I love them all.
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Yeah…no from me. I don’t like any of those drinks. Or raspberry flavored liquor of any kind. Tastes like cough syrup. Yuck.
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Sambuca = bad times for me…anise is really the only one of those flavors I can handle, and I pretty much only eat it with pizzelles during the holidays.
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Tequila is my bad times. And bourbon.
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Well mine too, I was just sticking to those types of flavors that you mentioned. In liquor form, they instantly turn my stomach.
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Oh, yeah—especially because they are usually so sickeningly sweet. I’d never drink Sambuca or ouzo because I just don’t like anise flavors. I could never have done “the green fairy,” lol.
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Oh hell I drink that stuff when I’m over in Europe because someone I’m with has never had it before and always wants to drink it. God I hate it; though when mixed with this orange drink they have it’s actually half decent and I ended up getting pretty well gone on that a few years back.
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Gets you pretty fucked up, yes? Wormwood.
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It’s doesn’t make you hallucinate or anything, but it’s definitely strong and I had a ton to drink that day (was on a beer tour with a friends company at the time through Belgium, so we drank all day long). I went from buzzed to walking in to the women’s room and pissing on the floor without realizing it pretty quickly. Thankfully the women were good sports about it.
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URP
/throws up in mouth a little
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I fricken HATE cilantro!
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Yep, tastes like soap to only a certain amount of the population.
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Really? Interesting.
Can you smell asparagus pee? That’s a genetic thing, too. Something like 22%.
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Is it? I surely can. And cilantro does have s mild lye flavor, but you can cook with it and make it work with other harsh flavors in perfect concert.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
i don’t suppose you’d be interested in Trader Joe’s fennel toothpaste, then.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 9, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, NO. Saw that, and simply couldn’t decide who would think that was a good idea.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
here have a snack
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by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 9, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
it should say that on the bag
just the smell makes me want to technicolor yawn
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mmmmmm potato, leeks and meatball soup with rice…
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so do we think carle is worth wisnewski money?
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I’m looking at the top 50 defensemen cap hits on capgeek. Wisniewski is 16th. Carle isn’t listed. (>50th) I don’t know much about Wisniewski, but judging by the names around him (and just using my personal impressions of those players, not cross-referencing against any stats), I’d say he’s pretty good or fairly overpaid. Also from personal impressions, I’d say Carle is better than some of the players between them on the list, but not all. Maybe I’d put him in the mid-20s. So that gives him 4.5-5 mil/year. That’s a pretty nice raise over his current 3.4 mil/year. So that’s my very rough, at-a-glance, gut feeling. How does that sound?
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The suggested range I’ve seen at BSH is 4.5-5.25.
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by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Considering that Cobie got $4.5m … Carle gets at least that, or the team is seriously undervaluing him.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
James Wisniewski isn’t worth Wisniewski money, but I think Carle is worth $5 million, give or take $0.5 million depending on the team offering.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
My optimistic hope is that they can get him for the same price as Coburn.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
That and that Jagr would take a bit of a pay cut to stay, and a nice return on Voracek who seems to be playing himself off of next year’s roster, barring any cap clearing moves.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 9, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
If you think Voracek is playing his way off of next year’s roster, what makes you think we’d get a nice return for him?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
He will be too expensive for us to keep, is what I meant. Guess I should have clarified. I think he’s killing it.
by hebrew hammer on Feb 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Haha ok, was confused for a second there. I love him too and I hope he’s back but I’d understand if he was the odd man out.
I feel like JVR’s contract is going to end up screwing us for guys like this—not the contract and the cap hit itself, but the precedent it’ll set in negotiations for guys in the future. Seravalli mentioned it a few weeks back—that his value based on mid-range comparables for an RFA is probably in the $3m-for-a couple-of-years range, but since the Flyers showed they were willing to give a lot to JVR, it may end up costing them.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Samsies
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Somewhat off topic, but just because I saw your SBN Philly piece and am curious: no Hal Gill? Thought I saw somewhere a couple days ago the Flyers and Pens had asked about him. Think he’d cost too much?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I have a deep dislike for Hal Gill.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I just don’t think he’s an improvement.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
He’s also what – 34?? And ten feet tall, so his knees must be about done for by now, eh?
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Zdeno Chara is 34 and about twelve feet tall and he’s doing OK. (shrug)
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Though Gill is actually 36, so yeah, that becomes a little more relevant.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the clarification.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Unless he costs a seventh rounder in our choice of draft year, no way.
Did you deliberately limit yourself to options from teams that appear, right now, as having no chance of making the playoffs? Any others that you would consider?
Yeah, I deliberately limited the scope to UFA’s on teams who appear to be missing the playoffs. The reasoning for that is two-fold: 1) I think they are much more likely to be available since their teams are/should be rebuilding; and 2) It’s a lot less speculative than trying to explain why the Senators/Blackhawks would trade someone for little to nothing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
On another note, I wonder how much money you’d have made if you spent a day walking up to Flyers fans and beting them a dollar that they couldn’t guess who has the lowest GAON/60. Lilja? Seriously?
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
haha, That would have been a great idea.
Hey, why not do it tonight at the game?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
D-men who offer more offensively usually garner a bit more on the market, right? $5m sounds realistic.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
id honestly rather have a big guy who clears the net and crushes people in the corners, than a speedy scoring d man
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Then luck you! They cost substantially less.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
i just wish homer felt the same way, since it isnt scoring we have the problem with, not more than clear the porch to stop deflections and screens anyway
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He did lock up Coburn before Carle…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
coburn needs to be nastier, captain albows nasty
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I was waiting for this.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
since he wants to stay you think he will take 4.5 or seeing what the flyers do with people who take hometown discounts, will he go for broke
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FGSB is just killing it on Twitter right now.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions
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#Flyers have recalled goaltender Jason Bacashihua from the Adirondack Phantoms on emergency conditions, according to GM Paul Holmgren
Please be good tonight, Bob.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 1:44 PM EST reply actions
Ha, I clicked reply below then realized “he wouldn’t see it anyway”…
If he’s using emergency recall waivers, why wouldn’t he use Leighton? Emergency recall trumps re-entry, so why use the guy who doesn’t require re-entry waivers for emergency conditions? Why not just recall Bacashihua or use emergency recall on Leighton?
I’m confused.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Im too lazy to look it up; where are we at cap wise with all the other minor league guys we’re carrying? We could’ve emergency recalled Leighton, but Bacashihua makes 1/3 the money.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Using Capgeek’s daily calculation (which doesn’t include Z), the Flyers have $26,579 available per day in LTIR spending.
Leighton is $8,378.38 per day, Bacashihua is $2,837.84 per day, a difference of $5,540.54, or less than one Jody Shelley, so I think they’re fine.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I’m going to guess that the Flyers are expecting this to be a short stay, and would rather not mess up Leighton’s preparations and stuff. If they didn’t actually re-activate JVR then they don’t have to the use the 48-hour goaltender exemption for this either (although roster moves aren’t always reported quickly enough for me to know for sure that they’re not using it now).
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
The preparations stuff I can see, but I’d much sooner believe the Flyers view this as an inconvenience for the guy they recall due to the short stay. They’d rather “be nice” to Leighton by saying “don’t worry about packing, flying, sitting, flying,* and unpacking in a 2/3 day period, we’ll make Cash do it.”
I mean, Leighton has to have two days to prepare for an AHL game? Come on, dude is on an NHL contract and is the starting AHL All-Star. I think he can prepare for a game in 15 hours.
*Even more so if he has to drive like Marshall.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
It’s Thursday, I see the Phantoms having back to back games Friday and Saturday, and I’m assuming they expect Leighton to play at least the Friday game if not both. We got our signals crossed somewhere, I’m guessing
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Part of that meaning, yeah, I agree that whoever the call-up is the one getting inconvenienced. But I’m assuming they wanted Leighton to play tomorrow, rather than have Bacashihua to play those games against Norfolk while Leighton just sits on the bench here.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think there’s a few signals we’re crossing:
1) How long is Bryz out? I’m thinking just tonight, could easily be wrong;
2) Because it was Cash and not Leights, it could be true that the Flyers would rather have Leighton play for the Phantoms, since they seem to care about that team winning (Marshall for Ford), something I hadn’t considered; and
3) The Flyers could just not know how emergency recall works and thought they had to put Leighton on re-entry waivers to dress him tonight.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
1) That’s what I was thinking, but if it turns out to be longer, if JVR stays on IR they can convert Cash into a regular recall and keep him up. They can’t do that with Leighton, he has to go back down when the emergency ends
2) Yeah, I was assuming they wanted Leighton to play those games and maybe win them, that might be asking too much, who knows
3) I can’t rule that out as a possibility
FWIW, Tim McManus said on Twitter a few minutes ago that it was always discussed that Cash was the call-up guy, and Leights even said it a month ago
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I remember hearing that. But as I said earlier, it makes sense that Cash was the call-up guy due to re-entry waivers. It doesn’t make sense in terms of long-term injuries or a trade.
In other words, I believe Cash was the call-up for something like this. I don’t believe Cash is the call-up if they trade Bob or Bryz, nor do I believe Cash is the call-up if Bryz or Bob go down with a [insert non-jinxing serious injury here] in April.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
This is now the second time I’ve said that, and both times I give myself the creeps, having to add “Bob or Bryz” and “[insert random injury here]”.
I refuse to be the one to offer up a random example then have it come true.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
If you did, you know we’d never let you forget it… I feel the same way about pointing out the evil CBA traps we could fall into, because as soon as I mention them we manage to hit one.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
There are safe options.
“I don’t believe Cash is the call-up if Bryz or Bob get killed in a nuclear holocaust in April.” Who’s going to be left to blame you?
“I don’t believe Cash is the call-up if Bryz or Bob get arrested for breaking Milan Lucic’s knees with a lead pipe in April.” Who would be mad at you when that happened?
“I don’t believe Cash is the call-up if Bryz or Bob get lupus in April.” It’s never lupus. Well, except that one time, so I guess you’re taking your chances with that one.
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Is Cash his legit nickname? That’s awesome. I picture a goalie dressed all in black.
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by KreiderDesigns on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
People are using it on twitter, so I’m assuming it’s really his nickname. I hadn’t heard it before today, though
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve seen Tim use it before, and I think Paterson did too, so I’m pretty sure it is.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Not Cash-y? Must not be part of the clique.
/s, more often than not
by flyersfaninchicago on Feb 9, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Chihuahua.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Just realized it’s an Emergency Call up. So re-entry for Leighton.
The Phantoms play a game on Friday, so maybe they did not want to call him up and rest him for the his upcoming game?
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/44695-Rumor-Focus-Philadelphia-Flyers.html
THN (who usually hate the Flyers and seemingly deliberately screw up their reporting on them) actually make a case that I agree with is well-justified and reasoned saying that they team shouldn’t trade anyone too hastily.
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http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/44695-Rumor-Focus-Philadelphia-Flyers.html
Sorry – hintzy needs to teach me the cool link thingie.
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by MaximumTalbot on Feb 9, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
You can’t put it in the title.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 9, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
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