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Suck it, Phaneuf: Flyers hang on for 4-3 win over Leafs

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Coming off three straight losses, the Philadelphia Flyers absolutely needed to snap their win streak against a legitimately solid Toronto Maple Leafs squad. It was a bit of a back-and-forth game throughout, but the Flyers controlled play for the majority and really made the Leafs look out of sorts in their own end, and they earned a nice, hard 4-3 victory tonight.

They needed that. We all needed that. It feels good.

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What feels better, though, is the goal celebration of Scott Hartnell, who himself got off the schneid with a goal and a fight (at the exact same time) and an assist. One might call that a Gordie Howe hat trick.

What a badass. Some other notes:

- Seriously, that top line was great tonight. They were great against the Islanders, but it's nice to see them finally get some results out of it. Giroux getting on the board was huge, and Hartnell had a monster night. Pierre McGuire would have been all about that.

- CSN Philly chimes in with the media version of the "First!" comment.

- Thought Bob had a really strong game tonight, despite the three goals against. It was a little run-and-gun there for a bit, but when he had to make some big saves there in the third period, he stepped up.

- Do the Leafs look ridiculously disorganized in their own end all the time, is that something that the Flyers did to them tonight, or are my eyes just screwing with me?

Questions with Answers

  1. How many "Suck it, Phaneuf!" signs in the crowd? Attendance was 19,684, so I'm gonna guess about two per person... carry the six... about 26 signs.
  2. James Reimer isn't gonna be really good like Evgeni Nabokov was the other night, right? Nope.
  3. Bob hasn't played in a while. How's he look? It would be redundant of me to answer this question, wouldn't it?
  4. How are Jason Bacashihua's door opening skills? Great technique.
  5. Claude Giroux is going to score tonight. That's not a question, but whatever. .smirk

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Leave it to Hartnell to make someone carry a grudge from the All-Star Game.

>> flyersfaninchicago

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by Justin F. on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Yes. yes it does.

Madly in love with Jaromir Jagr's brilliant smile and epic goal salute.

Sean Couturier and Matt Read for joint Calder Trophy winners!

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by Chemistry66 on Feb 9, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wooo!

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Feb 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Of all the crazy things Travis has hidden in them before, this one may actually be my favorite. Brilliant in its simplicity.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you linked to the wrong game for the Corsi/Fenwick and all that jazz.

by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

thanks.

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by Travis Hughes on Feb 9, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Hartnell Goal + Instantaneous Fight

Top 25 All-Time Flyers moment? If that doesn’t say Broad Street….

All I want for Christmas is a shutout and a concussion proof helmet

by TimKerr on Feb 9, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

# Claude Giroux is going to score tonight. That’s not a question, but whatever. .smirk

good call

Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!

Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.

Bob knows the Save-ty Dance!

"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux

by reaper1221 on Feb 9, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

What a beast-shift by Hartnell on the goal.

It's a hockey, you know. it's only... it's only game. Why you heff to be mad?

by Philly4Cup on Feb 9, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

Wooo!

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Feb 9, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t you mean “DOOP”?

A Flyers fan for so long I remember when a Flyers Goalie (Bruce Gamble) had a heart attack DURING a game...and continued playing!

"...bouncing puck in the slot...LOOSE IN FRONT...McDuffy...bouncing PUCK...SCOOOOOOOORE!!!!" - Gene Hart

by DrummerFC on Feb 9, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I think in this case he means Woo. Just ask Phaneuf.

by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely don’t mean “DOOP”. Sorry.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

;-)

A Flyers fan for so long I remember when a Flyers Goalie (Bruce Gamble) had a heart attack DURING a game...and continued playing!

"...bouncing puck in the slot...LOOSE IN FRONT...McDuffy...bouncing PUCK...SCOOOOOOOORE!!!!" - Gene Hart

by DrummerFC on Feb 9, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, love it.

I still remember the first time I saw this, chasew posted it in reply to me. I wish I remembered what I did to deserve it. :(

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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 9, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

What I like about Matt Carle:

He leads the d-men in ice time per game.
He leads the d-men in points per 60 mins.
He ends his shift in the OZ more often than he starts there, the only top-4 d-man who can say that.
He leads the d-men in CorsiRel.

So he plays a lot, he scores a lot, he pushes play forwards, and the Flyers play best when he is on the ice.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2011/12/28/2665305/wednesday-morning-fly-by-short-and-concise

Once you said this I wasn’t going to be able to stop thinking about it until I figured out when it was.


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by Chase W on Feb 10, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

haha, nice. I’m glad it had to do with Matt Carle.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Wish I could have seen the game. Effin’ GCL blackout. Glad to finally have a win, it seems like a long time since the last one.
I also wish people could be a bit more respectful, but “wantin’” and “gettin” are two different things.

Really, Panotch? Is he worried that he might soon have to answer to Snider or something?

by mtitanic on Feb 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

lol

Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!

Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.

Bob knows the Save-ty Dance!

"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux

by reaper1221 on Feb 9, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Hartnell getting the goal and then fighting Phaneuf was so friggin glorious. I’d love to know what was said just before the gloves came off. If Hartnell zinged him again, or if Phaneuf was all sour grapes. Either way, hilarity.

A few scary moments later in the game. Like Rinaldo getting the puck just inside our blue line, needing to clear it out, and passing it directly at the Leafs player standing 2 feet in front of him. Instant turnover and scoring chance. Or a couple minutes later, Bourdon standing in the slot, all alone, facing TOWARDS Bob, with the puck, for what felt like an eternity, looking like he didn’t know what to do. I was praying “don’t shoot, wrong net, don’t shoot, wrong net…” Not that I think he’s dumb enough to do that, but he really seemed confused and I was waiting for a Leaf to grab the puck and put it in the net.

So which will be more informative and well-written, the current CSN Philly article or the final version?

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Feb 9, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

It was definitely Hartnell, for the hit/fall right before the goal.

All I want for Christmas is a shutout and a concussion proof helmet

by TimKerr on Feb 9, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s likely what he said after the game, he was headed behind the net, and Phaneuf bumped him, causing him to fall awkwardly and almost hit the boards, so after he scored the goal he figured what the hell.

G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*

by JerseyDriver on Feb 9, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool, I missed out on post-game interviews, since I was watching at the bar.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Feb 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

aw, man!

I was hoping for an acrostic with the headline…

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by goldomatic on Feb 9, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

well i haz sad:(

Beets,Bears,Battlestar Galactica.
MICHAEL!

Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.

Bob knows the Save-ty Dance!

"I got a crosscheck to the face and lost a bunch of teeth. You battle through it. That’s the way hockey players are made." - Claude Giroux

by reaper1221 on Feb 9, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

Additional note:

That I didn’t realize until now: I picked up Skyrim during the recently deal on Steam. First character I’m going with the massive, brawler dual weapons “Smash them repeatedly and until they stop moving” type. I had to pick a name late 2 night ago… went with Phaneuf, due to all the jokes we were making running up to this game :)

by VorAbaddon on Feb 10, 2012 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

I have a char named Giroux and one named Schenn #nerdalert

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by HankMonahan on Feb 10, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Should make a wood elf mage named Briere

Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 10, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I keep seeing that deal for Skyrim every time I log in to play some Portal, and it’s been tempting me. Sounds like it’s a good game. But I don’t spend that much time gaming, so I don’t know if it’d be worth it for me…

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced

by hintzy64 on Feb 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I would say that my watching the game was the thing they needed to win. Except for the fact that I started watching about 8 hours after it was over.

Oh well. Go Flyers!

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by AlaskaFlyersFan on Feb 10, 2012 5:00 AM EST reply actions  

Cheering on the Flyers from 9300 miles away at McMurdo Station, Antarctica

YIKES! Had a little snow this winter???

A Flyers fan for so long I remember when a Flyers Goalie (Bruce Gamble) had a heart attack DURING a game...and continued playing!

"...bouncing puck in the slot...LOOSE IN FRONT...McDuffy...bouncing PUCK...SCOOOOOOOORE!!!!" - Gene Hart

by DrummerFC on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

You do realize that it’s summer there right now, yes?

by mtitanic on Feb 10, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I read “AlaskaFlyersFan”, missed the “Antarctica” part. D’OH!

A Flyers fan for so long I remember when a Flyers Goalie (Bruce Gamble) had a heart attack DURING a game...and continued playing!

"...bouncing puck in the slot...LOOSE IN FRONT...McDuffy...bouncing PUCK...SCOOOOOOOORE!!!!" - Gene Hart

by DrummerFC on Feb 10, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

And yet it’s still colder than Philly. 28 degrees with the sun out right now at 10pm; Philly it’s still 38 despite being dark and rainy.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

10 pm EST, anyway. I have no idea which time zone McMurdo station is in, but does it matter if we’re still in the window where the sun never sets?

Warning: Arguing the NHL CBA with me could be hazardous to your mental health. Proceed at your own risk.

by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

We are in the New Zealand Time Zone, so I’m 18 hours ahead of Philly

I think our next sunset/rise is Feb 20th. It hasn’t set in the 5 weeks that I’ve been down here.

Cheering on the Flyers from 9300 miles away at McMurdo Station, Antarctica

by AlaskaFlyersFan on Feb 12, 2012 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Was anybody else (other than Laviolette) confused/upset/outraged by the fact that Hartnell picked up a penalty for “slashing” Phaneuf before they dropped the gloves?

by mattsotheran on Feb 10, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Yes…exactly WHERE was the slash again? Was it that little tap on the shin pad as if to say “let’s go, eh”??

REF YOU SUCK.

A Flyers fan for so long I remember when a Flyers Goalie (Bruce Gamble) had a heart attack DURING a game...and continued playing!

"...bouncing puck in the slot...LOOSE IN FRONT...McDuffy...bouncing PUCK...SCOOOOOOOORE!!!!" - Gene Hart

by DrummerFC on Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I was surprised it was a slash, though I expected an instigator – although, if they did that, it would have been 2 for instigating, 2 for instigating with a shield, and a 10 minute misconduct – instead. But if they called an instigator there, they should have called an instigator on Brown when he fought Rinaldo.

In essence, it was the wrong call, though a call could easily – and probably should – have been made. Factor in that he was saved PIMs by the wrong call, and I think it all evens out.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

though I expected an instigator

I have to disagree with you there. Instigator penalties typically come when one player essentially forces another to fight or get suckerpunched (remember Gagne jumping Volchenkov?). The video clearly shows Phaneuf was a willing partner. They both engage simultaneously; Hartnell probably didn’t even need to tap him – Phaneuf was ready right away. I would equate that “slash” to players shaking their gloves before a fight.

Couple that with the fact that there was a back-story here – Hartnell’s “suck it” comment – and I think it’s pretty clear they were both ready for a tussle and that an extra penalty was unwarranted.

by mattsotheran on Feb 10, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree on what is required for an instigator. The Flyers got a PP when Schenn fought that Bruin, and he was pretty willing to fight.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Can one get instigator if you fight for yourself? Also is it an instigator when the fight does not happen right away but first after alittle chatter?

by Anders Jensen on Feb 11, 2012 7:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the instigator is tough to predict, because it’s so circumstantial. At least the way it’s currently called, it depends on exactly how the fight breaks down. Mattsotheran brought up the Gagne incident, and even though Gagne was fighting back for himself after he was the one who got leveled and spent some time prone on the ice; the fact that he didn’t jump Volchenkov until after the play ended left Gagne with an institigator penalty. If the fight had happened immediately after the hit, he might not have gotten one depending on how it went down. It’s so dependent on the situation that I don’t think there’s a right answer.

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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Can you call an instigator when the fight is instigated in another game? Would it be a penalty shot here, since it happened in the ASG?

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Feb 10, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Lappy on Phaneuf

I loved Lappy’s explanation about why players don’t respect Phaneuf? It was brilliant! “the way he plays the game and he has that look on his face like he plays all tough and he he’s all that and as a player you don’t like that…… and if you don’t back it up most of the time guys won’t respect you”

by FreddieG on Feb 10, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions  


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