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One critical question when evaluating a 14-year deal is what the player's career will look like from here. Is it reasonable to expect that Shea Weber will be a top-pairing defenseman for even half of this deal?
Let's take a look after the jump.
On Twitter today, I said there was a reasonably good chance that Weber would still be a top-pairing defenseman at age 35, and that even if he's no longer elite, a $7.8M cap hit will be reasonable for a top-pairing defenseman assuming even minimal cap growth.
I was surprised at the push-back I got on that, and it made me nervous. People do tend to wildly underestimate how steep the aging curve is; had I fallen into that trap?
As a first pass for how elite defensemen aged, I looked at the Norris trophy winners since 1995 and how old they were the last time they were 20+ minute players. Here's what I found:
Player | Age for last 20+min season |
Paul Coffey | 38 |
Chris Chelios | 42 |
Brian Leetch | 37 |
Rob Blake | 40 |
Al MacInnis | 39 |
Chris Pronger | 36* |
Nicklas Lidstrom | 41 |
Scott Niedermayer | 36 |
Zdeno Chara | 34 and counting |
Duncan Keith | 28 and counting |
Erik Karlsson |
21 and counting |
That doesn't look so bad, really. It seems like a pretty good bet that he'll be a top-pairing guy until at least 35 if you accept this as a list of comparables.
Of course, some people don't. Weber hasn't won a Norris Trophy yet, after all. I'd argue that he's a fair bet to win one eventually and join this list -- after all, Chelios, Blake, MacInnis, Lidstrom, Niedermayer, and Chara were all older than Weber is now when they won their first Norris Trophy. But it's a fair point, so let's compare to a list that Weber does belong on, Norris finalists since 2000:
Player | Age for last 20+ min season |
Rob Blake | 40 |
Chris Pronger | 36* |
Nicklas Lidstrom | 41 |
Ray Bourque | 40 |
Scott Stevens | 38 |
Chris Chelios | 42 |
Derian Hatcher | 35 |
Al MacInnis | 39 |
Scott Niedermayer | 36 |
Sergei Zubov | 37 |
Dion Phaneuf | 26 and counting |
Zdeno Chara | 34 and counting |
Mike Green | 26 and counting |
Duncan Keith | 28 and counting |
Drew Doughty | 22 and counting |
Erik Karlsson | 21 and counting |
I have a hard time looking at that list and arguing that someone who has already been a Norris finalist twice won't play on a top pairing until he's 35. And according to Nick Kypreos, at age 38 the salary drops to $1M and it's reasonable to guess he's planning to retire -- which wouldn't count on the cap under the current CBA. So I think it's fair to expect him to be a top-pairing defenseman for whatever fraction of the contract he'll actually play out.