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Wednesday Morning Fly By: Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. And turnovers.

Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers-related news and notes...

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*Disappointing effort last night, to say the least. The Flyers really can't figure out how to win at MSG. Full recaps at BSH,, CSN Philly,

*Nicklas Grossmann went down with a hip flexor injury sometime during the first last night. Bad news. (BSH)

*Also bad news is this horrific puck to Marc Staal's face. Hopefully he's okay. (SB Nation)

*Captain Claude Giroux has put together quite a nice little point streak. (

*Could the Pens end up trading for Jack Johnson? That would be incredibly annoying. (PensBurgh)

*Mike Knuble may currently be exiled to the press box, but the veteran is comfortable with his role on the Flyers. (CSN Philly)

*Paul Holmgren says he isn't going to mess with the Flyers' young core at the deadline. Good news. (ESPN)

*Seth Jones will probably end up in Columbus. Poor kid. (NHL Numbers)

*Despite the lockout, the NHL's owners are still raking it in. (Defending Big D)

*Frank Seravalli gives the Flyers midseason grades. (

*Someone made a hilarious video featuring a montage of Bruins players diving while Claude Julien complains about diving. (Backhand Shelf)

*Apparently, there is a long and storied history of hat tricks on hat giveaway night. (SB Nation)

*This kid is not happy. (Prep Rally)